[Q] Responsiveness of buttons - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can someone please comment on the responsiveness, travel, click-y-ness, feedback and consistency of the physical buttons?
This might seem trivial, but this is one of the reasons I have never kept an HTC phone...the buttons are so gushy/squishy, whatever you wanna call it. I like to feel it click. Apple has nailed this, so has BB with the new Z10.
Any comments? Thanks!

stoicism said:
Can someone please comment on the responsiveness, travel, click-y-ness, feedback and consistency of the physical buttons?
This might seem trivial, but this is one of the reasons I have never kept an HTC phone...the buttons are so gushy/squishy, whatever you wanna call it. I like to feel it click. Apple has nailed this, so has BB with the new Z10.
Any comments? Thanks!
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The HTC One has only soft capacitative buttons, so you will get the vibration feedback and probably the strength of the feedback can be adjusted.

I am speaking about the physical buttons, I.e. power and volume buttons. I am not concerned about the capacitive ones.
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stoicism said:
I am speaking about the physical buttons, I.e. power and volume buttons. I am not concerned about the capacitive ones.
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The power button feels flush, responsive but I didn't really feel that I pressed it if that makes sense. Not as deep set as my Desire HD one is/has become.

keemyb said:
The power button feels flush, responsive but I didn't really feel that I pressed it if that makes sense. Not as deep set as my Desire HD one is/has become.
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Ya, makes sense, but is totally disappointing. It makes it difficult to lock it without intentionally looking and pressing. I used the 8x for a brief period and had that same experience, it was never easy to quickly lock it on the way to putting it in your pocket.
How about the volume rockers? Can you find them easily without looking? e.g. when adjusting the volume in your pocket.

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Volume button, soft keys and camera?

Hey there. I bought this phone today and I love it. However, I have a couple of couple gripes with it, but am not entirely sure whether it's just with my phone or the Incredible S in general.
First off, the volume buttons appears to be flimsy. I mean, yes, it's very thin and I'm not totally used to it yet, but I've noticed you can moved it from side to side slightly. This is the same for the power button, only not as noticeable.
Secondly, the soft keys. I get that they have an LCD display to make the buttons rotate, but on the search key it seems a lot brighter and a bit blurry, and I'm able to see the rotated magnifying glass underneath the non-rotated button. It's not as bright as the 'standard' non-rotated button, but it is noticeable. When I rotate the phone and the buttons rotate I'm unable to see the non-rotated magnifying glass. This is also the same, though not as bad for the back button.
And finally, the camera. I'm don't know whether this is a software/app/wifi issue, but I tested out Tango and Fring using the front facing camera and the back camera, and called my friend. He has an iPhone 4 and he came through clear. I, on the other hand (according to him at least) came through blocky and 'stuttery', with lots of pauses. Fring was worse, as the sound wasn't good for either of us, but the video seemed poor on my end.
So yeah, are my complaints common to all Incredible S'? If so, then I won't be too bothered, but I'm kinda worrying a bit because I bought the last IS in the shop, and when the salesman opened up the box to show me the phone, it didn't have any of the stickers on, and the screen had fingermarks on. He said that it was brand new, but they had used it to show another customer. I got home and tried turning it on, and there was no charge left in the battery. I looked in the box and all the chargers etc were unopened, though.
So yeah, what do you think?
zingxao said:
Hey there. I bought this phone today and I love it. However, I have a couple of couple gripes with it, but am not entirely sure whether it's just with my phone or the Incredible S in general.
First off, the volume buttons appears to be flimsy. I mean, yes, it's very thin and I'm not totally used to it yet, but I've noticed you can moved it from side to side slightly. This is the same for the power button, only not as noticeable.
Secondly, the soft keys. I get that they have an LCD display to make the buttons rotate, but on the search key it seems a lot brighter and a bit blurry, and I'm able to see the rotated magnifying glass underneath the non-rotated button. It's not as bright as the 'standard' non-rotated button, but it is noticeable. When I rotate the phone and the buttons rotate I'm unable to see the non-rotated magnifying glass. This is also the same, though not as bad for the back button.
And finally, the camera. I'm don't know whether this is a software/app/wifi issue, but I tested out Tango and Fring using the front facing camera and the back camera, and called my friend. He has an iPhone 4 and he came through clear. I, on the other hand (according to him at least) came through blocky and 'stuttery', with lots of pauses. Fring was worse, as the sound wasn't good for either of us, but the video seemed poor on my end.
So yeah, are my complaints common to all Incredible S'? If so, then I won't be too bothered, but I'm kinda worrying a bit because I bought the last IS in the shop, and when the salesman opened up the box to show me the phone, it didn't have any of the stickers on, and the screen had fingermarks on. He said that it was brand new, but they had used it to show another customer. I got home and tried turning it on, and there was no charge left in the battery. I looked in the box and all the chargers etc were unopened, though.
So yeah, what do you think?
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Yes it is normal for the volume rocker to rock in all directions however don't let it fool you it is very sturdy and longer lasting than the power button. Never had an issue with the volume button however the power button will require more pressure to push over time.
As for the soft keys they do blur out and it all depends what angle your viewing them from.
The. Camera on. The front of the. IncS is a piece of crap only at 1mp, I'm not sure. What the iphones resolution is but I can guarantee that it's high seeing as they advertise video calls.
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itsbeertimenow said:
Yes it is normal for the volume rocker to rock in all directions however don't let it fool you it is very sturdy and longer lasting than the power button. Never had an issue with the volume button however the power button will require more pressure to push over time.
As for the soft keys they do blur out and it all depends what angle your viewing them from.
The. Camera on. The front of the. IncS is a piece of crap only at 1mp, I'm not sure. What the iphones resolution is but I can guarantee that it's high seeing as they advertise video calls.
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From my experience with both phone the front facing camera sucks on both the only way to insure video calling works well is with good lighting
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Another thing I've just noticed; again, am wondering whether this is same for everyone or just me (after the whole no stickers on the phone thing with fingerprints on the screen), but the micro USB port is kinda loose. If you tap it with your smallest finger, or if the charger is in it and move it slightly, the USB port moves.
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just a bit concerned if I've paid a a fair amount of money for a 'new' phone, when it's not and there's things wrong with it.
Thanks.
Everything seems pretty normal. Bearing in mind it is not a closed case like the iphone series, therefore you have to expect movement with parts of the phone.
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zingxao said:
Another thing I've just noticed; again, am wondering whether this is same for everyone or just me (after the whole no stickers on the phone thing with fingerprints on the screen), but the micro USB port is kinda loose. If you tap it with your smallest finger, or if the charger is in it and move it slightly, the USB port moves.
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just a bit concerned if I've paid a a fair amount of money for a 'new' phone, when it's not and there's things wrong with it.
Thanks.
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My phone. Came the same way dude and yes the usb port moves on all of them it adds a bit of flexibility so it's not as easy to damage.
There is nothing to worry about. There was no plastic on mine and there was finger prints on it. The sales people generally boot them up once to avoid a waiting period when setting up your phone for the first time. They boot them up than shut them down so they can boot up fast using fast boot. The less time waiting for the phones the more time spent selling phones.
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Oh okay dude! Thanks for the replies. I think I look for faults when they're not there lol.
So yeah cheers for clearing that up.

I'm really starting to hate the power switch

I'm forever fumbling around to find it.
I fumble and fumble, then think I must have the phone upside down and fumble some more only to realize I've now turned it up side down.
I thought I'd get used to it.
Not to mention I seem to be getting bits of pocket crap in between the button and the phone.
On my HTC EVO LTE the phone used to come on if I stooped down (I keep it in my fron jeans pocket) and I made little guards for the button to stop it.
Now think I'll have to glue on a bump on to the button or something.
It would be nice if they put a dimple or raised it slightly. So you could positively find it by feel every time.
My case has a cut out for the powet button and I have pretty wide fingers, so no issues here
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youkosnake said:
My case has a cut out for the powet button and I have pretty wide fingers, so no issues here
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I have same problem as OP. I have an Incipio case that has a cut out for the power/IR blaster. It also has a cut out on the bottom for the micro usb charger, which is almost the same exact size. I too have flipped the phone over several times. I may have to get the Mophie just for the simple fact that it has a raised power button.
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Not sure if I understand right but you could do what I do and stop using the power button. What I do is rooted with bulletproof kernel I use the double tap the bottom of the screen to turn it on and then I can either swipe the back+home button to turn the phone off or use a widget called screen off on my desktop (usually do this since its more convenient). This works perfectly and is much easier than the akward power button
bob2300nx said:
Not sure if I understand right but you could do what I do and stop using the power button. What I do is rooted with bulletproof kernel I use the double tap the bottom of the screen to turn it on and then I can either swipe the back+home button to turn the phone off or use a widget called screen off on my desktop (usually do this since its more convenient). This works perfectly and is much easier than the akward power button
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Exactly what I do except I use elementalX and the long press.
Honestly though, is it the phones fault that you haven't gotten use to it?
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I have the flip cover, and I use Tasker to lock and unlock the phone when I open/close it. It uses the proximity sensor, and is almost instantaneous in response. Even works with the cover off, by either sticking it in my pocket or placing the phone face down on a surface.
I saw something like that where you can wave your hand over your phone air gesture style to unlock it out answer a call. Crazy the things you can do with Tasker.
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Vincent Law said:
I have the flip cover, and I use Tasker to lock and unlock the phone when I open/close it. It uses the proximity sensor, and is almost instantaneous in response. Even works with the cover off, by either sticking it in my pocket or placing the phone face down on a surface.
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Where do I find this app
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felacio said:
Honestly though, is it the phones fault that you haven't gotten use to it?
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Um, Ya !!!
thlinx said:
Where do I find this app
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In the Play Store, of course.
mswlogo said:
Um, Ya !!!
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I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, no comment.
mswlogo said:
I'm forever fumbling around to find it.
I fumble and fumble, then think I must have the phone upside down and fumble some more only to realize I've now turned it up side down.
I thought I'd get used to it.
Not to mention I seem to be getting bits of pocket crap in between the button and the phone.
On my HTC EVO LTE the phone used to come on if I stooped down (I keep it in my fron jeans pocket) and I made little guards for the button to stop it.
Now think I'll have to glue on a bump on to the button or something.
It would be nice if they put a dimple or raised it slightly. So you could positively find it by feel every time.
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Literally first world problems...
Why dont you just install a custom kernel and then use the sweep/wake option? Thats what I do on my device and I dont even touch the power button. Just a thought and hope it helps.
Vincent Law said:
I have the flip cover, and I use Tasker to lock and unlock the phone when I open/close it. It uses the proximity sensor, and is almost instantaneous in response. Even works with the cover off, by either sticking it in my pocket or placing the phone face down on a surface.
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Freaking... Love... Tasker.
I bought it before it
was released on the marketplace and don't think I could live without it. It's hefty price tag saves you so much by figuring out how to do all the cool little tricks that all these 99 cent apps do.
mswlogo said:
Um, Ya !!!
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Umm, no. It's a FWP and you'll live. Lol.
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felacio said:
Freaking... Love... Tasker.
I bought it before it
was released on the marketplace and don't think I could live without it. It's hefty price tag saves you so much by figuring out how to do all the cool little tricks that all these 99 cent apps do.
Umm, no. It's a FWP and you'll live. Lol.
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$2.99 is a hefty price tag?
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GiantJay said:
$2.99 is a hefty price tag?
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That WAS only suppose to be a limited time sale. It use to be $6
bob2300nx said:
Not sure if I understand right but you could do what I do and stop using the power button. What I do is rooted with bulletproof kernel I use the double tap the bottom of the screen to turn it on and then I can either swipe the back+home button to turn the phone off or use a widget called screen off on my desktop (usually do this since its more convenient). This works perfectly and is much easier than the akward power button
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Thats a great idea.
N0wy0ud1e said:
In the Play Store, of course.
I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, no comment.
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A good design everyone WILL naturally get used to. A poor design won't.
If my car pulls to the left and I can't get used to it, does that make it my fault !!! That's what your saying.
Looks like I'm not the only one having issue with it, so it is a the "Phones Fault".
Like I said a tiny dimple on the power button or similar so you can find it with frozen fingers in the dark. Would go a long way.
Small cues that help you have the phone oriented correctly would go a long way.
Weight, Texture, Dimples make the difference.
Maybe this app would help out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227516
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mswlogo said:
A good design everyone WILL naturally get used to. A poor design won't.
If my car pulls to the left and I can't get used to it, does that make it my fault !!! That's what your saying.
Looks like I'm not the only one having issue with it, so it is a the "Phones Fault".
Like I said a tiny dimple on the power button or similar so you can find it with frozen fingers in the dark. Would go a long way.
Small cues that help you have the phone oriented correctly would go a long way.
Weight, Texture, Dimples make the difference.
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IF your car was designed to pull to the left it wouldnt be the cars fault.
The recessed power button is a design, no fault of the phone itself.
I, and I'm sure countless others here have no issues with the power button.
TonyTurboII said:
IF your car was designed to pull to the left it wouldnt be the cars fault.
The recessed power button is a design, no fault of the phone itself.
I, and I'm sure countless others here have no issues with the power button.
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I, for one, love the power button. Never once thought the button was hard to find or hard to press. I also love the tactile feel of this power button after having used a GNex, which I hated the power button placement - too easy to press accidentally.

power button barely sticks out

Hi guys,
I just got this phone and noticed that the power button barely sticks out.
Is this normal
Yes I think it is. Because the volume buttons also barely stick out. It's part of the design I think.
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Mine is almost flush with the frame.
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Sindroid said:
Mine is almost flush with the frame.
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Mine is flush too. Feels awkward pressing it
intolaomair said:
Mine is flush too. Feels awkward pressing it
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I was in bestbuy just now and the HTC one on display had the power button sticking out and even clicked when pressed.
I have 2 and 1 sticks out the other one doesn't
Anyone having problems with the on button, check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42415067
This works great for me - I have used my on button about 4 times since I started using this app, and those were in error. I have it set up so that it unlocks the phone when I take it out of my pocket, and locks again when I put it back in. It uses proximity sensor, and doesn't seem to eat much battery.
Maxy
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That's why I don't use it (power button). Sleep to wake ftw.
Simba501 said:
That's why I don't use it (power button). Sleep to wake ftw.
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whats sleep to wake?
intolaomair said:
whats sleep to wake?
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A custom kernel feature. It allows you to swipe from the back button to the home button (left-to-right) to turn the screen on and the opposite direction to turn the screen off.
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intolaomair said:
whats sleep to wake?
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Simba501 said:
A custom kernel feature. It allows you to swipe from the back button to the home button (left-to-right) to turn the screen on and the opposite direction to turn the screen off.
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into was trolling. He was pointing out that the name of the feature is Swipe to wake or S2W, for short.
Same with me
This is why i wont use it..i use smart cover for screen on/off
sauprankul said:
into was trolling. He was pointing out that the name of the feature is Swipe to wake or S2W, for short.
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Tomato/tomahto.
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anyway guys,
i think this power button is defective. there is no tactile feed back, its almost flush to the body.
intolaomair said:
anyway guys,
i think this power button is defective. there is no tactile feed back, its almost flush to the body.
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Mine is flush too but it's tactile.. Anyways i use sweep to wake anyways.. Much easier to do
You could get a TPU skin with no cutout like I did. I feel that there is no problem with the bare power button. However, the TPU skin amplifies the feedback at least 5x.
BTW: S2W uses up extra battery life. It keeps the capacitive panel on, even when sleeping.
sauprankul said:
BTW: S2W uses up extra battery life. It keeps the capacitive panel on, even when sleeping.
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I believe s2w doesn't use extra battery life
Mine too. I'm on my second replacement and the power button has gotten substantially worse lol. It's completely flush and there is no "click." Its more of a mushy, jammed press, it pisses me off
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I believe s2w doesn't use extra battery life
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I dunno, but im getting 1 day of heavy usage (5h sot) with data only.. Sooo data dats pretty good for me
ronattack said:
Mine too. I'm on my second replacement and the power button has gotten substantially worse lol. It's completely flush and there is no "click." Its more of a mushy, jammed press, it pisses me off
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I've been searching and even a lot of reviews, including gizmodo mention that the buttons are too flush.
maybe its supposed to be like this? :S

Recents capacitive button brighter?

Is it just me, or is the recent apps capacitive button brighter than the back and home buttons?
Mikey503 said:
Is it just me, or is the recent apps capacitive button brighter than the back and home buttons?
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I think it's just you. All three of mine are equally bright.
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Hmm it's quite noticeable when seen in low light. My OCD is saying return it, but I know I shouldn't risk it to get an even worse defective one then this small issue haha
That's how I felt about my device. My ocd was telling me to return it for certain reasons, but I felt I was gunna get a device with even worse problems. No phone is made exactly the same.
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Home button durability

Hey everyone. Does anyone know how durable the home button is? Like how much force would it take it break it? Is it safe to sit on or press really hard? If you press it as hard as you can with your thumb can you break it..ect. I'm wondering what it can take. I sat on my home button yesterday and worried I may have damaged it.
Does the home button work? If yes: ok
Okay, that last comment was completely out of line. He was asking a simple question, expecting a simple answer.
So, to answer the question, it would really depend on what you use as a home button. On my phone, the home button is on-screen, on my HUAWEI m865c, the home button is a touchscreen button, and on my LG optimus prime, it's an actual physical button. So, what is it?
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Its the actual Samsung physical home button. I ask because I'm still in return window and I don't want it to have hidden damage inside the mechanism. Just wondering how much pressure these buttons are supposed to handle with no damage
Dude it doesn't even matter
You don't have anything better to do Bacardilimon, you have a track record for douchy responses, I am not surprised.
Here is a simple rule. Do you have anything constructive to add to a topic? If no:
then do not post.
You may have had a faulty one to begin with. Sammy home buttons arent sturdy to begin with. My gs3 I know got wonky after a slight pressure situation. For the note 4 though it is pretty good on the pressure. We can't sit here and give you values and number or what it can or cannot take. Samsung can answer those for you though.
As to reply back to the main topic, I would guess that the physical home should be treated as gingerly as the touchscreen. Most "high-end" models like the Sammy Galaxy are cheap pieces of plastic surrounding high-performance processors. Exercise awareness while using your phone without a case.
If you plan on purposely destroying your home button, you should have to just put your weight into it while pressing. Destroying stuff is fun, but not when you can't get another. :thumbup:
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You may have had a faulty one to begin with. Sammy home buttons arent sturdy to begin with. My gs3 I know got wonky after a slight pressure situation. For the note 4 though it is pretty good on the pressure. We can't sit here and give you values and number or what it can or cannot take. Samsung can answer those for you though.
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Did you sit on yours too before it got wonky ?
This is actually a good question. I'm sure that Samsung has engineered the button to with stand something outside of the scope of normal use.
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Go to the store and Demo the Demo phone.
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Now, to answering you question........ The center home button is a separate unit piece look At this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZND9Q73wjr8 fast to 3min:45 sec and watch from there.
Basically these types of buttons can withstand quite a lot of force. The only way the button will fail is if the plastic or metal tip part that actually depressives the button within its structure get damaged ... either by manufacturer's flaw, or by repeatably pushing it down several thousand times ........ the part is 12-20 bucks to buy for replacement depending where you find it being sold.
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My Galaxy S4's button is the same as when it came out, so it's quite durable to me. I can't imagine the quality has gone down since, so I'm sure the one on the Note 4 is fine.
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For what it's worth. The home button on the note 4, at least in my opinion, feels better than the Galaxy S5. Or maybe that was just my phone.
I hate the physical button - I use DK's NavBar.

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