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recently my camera failed and the x1 went back to Sony, I've now had an email saying the phone is unrepairable and I have to pay £10 to have it returned unfixed.
I called them up and they say the mainboard is bent and not covered under warranty. The case is perfect, the screen is perfect and the phone has never been dropped etc.. They said this can happen even when the phone is in a pocket or bag but classed as accidental damage so not covered. They also said it's not a replacement part and I would need to buy a whole new phone, even if I was happy to pay for repair myself.
Is this right? Do they have to prove it was dropped? Is there no way of getting this fixed even if it costs me? Who can I complain to about this?
Thanks for any advice you can give..........
What country do you live in? And has this issue happened within 6 months?
If in the UK, you may be covered by 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' if you believe the phone was not of satisfactory quality (plus a few others reasons). However as far as I know, this would protect you from the seller, not SE.
Put simply, goods are expected to last a reasonable amount of time within normal usage (which i would argue means keeping within your pocket). If it breaks within 6 months, it is the sellers responsibility to prove that it was fit for use at the time it was sold (very hard for them to do if others are working fine). After 6 months you have another 5.5 years (4.5 years in Scotland) where you are still protected but it your responsibility to prove the goods were unfit at the time of sale.
Might be worth a shot. Info can be found on the website for BBCs Watchdog TV program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/consumer_law_sale_of_goods_emp.shtml
thanks for that, unfortunately i've had it for about 9 months so SOGA won't be easy for me to prove. I just cant get how they say it has been damaged by me, there's no signs of dropping, the phone is absolutely mint! I'm very mad indeed
the same thing has just happened to me with vodafone in the uk.
phone was sent back to the service centre as some of the keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard were working intermittantly which i believe is a common issue.
the phone was returned to me with a blurry picture of what may or may not be the inside of my phone saying that the phone had been damaged and was not covered by warranty. my phone has never been dropped and has been very well take care of. :-(
I have asked that they escalate my complaint and I'll be getting a call back tomorrow but I don't hold out too much hope. Not quite sure what too do after that but I wont stop there, considering the cost of the phone originally it's taking the p***
sounds shocking. Good luck mate and what country are you in?
I have just picked my phone up from an o2 store after sending it off for repair, the keys only worked intermittently (as previously posted) along with a few other issues. I received t.he handset back with a "Beyond Economical Repair" diagnosis, claiming that i had somehow bent and cracked the motherboard due to physical damage. I had to instead claim from o2 insurance costing me £25. I think in the future its much better to contact Sony Ericsson directly.
I'm in the UK and today had a call back from the escalations team who just confirmed what I was told yesterday, basically bent board, not our problem, buy a new one. They will send it back for free though which I'm supposed to be grateful for.
I'm now going to take it to their director of support, when you look at the 1000+ posts about the cracks and another 2 replies in this thread about the 'bent mainboard' the manufacture of this phone is questionable to say the least and goes a long way to prove the sale of goods act 'unfit for purpose' rule. I'm happy to take this to civil court if needs be........I'm a principals man and I'm seriously pi**ed...
Can you send it back to Sony? Sony repaired my damaged screen/cracked casing for free in about 7 days
i think it depends on country, in my they even charge me changin the case, becouse "they didnt get any input about cracks in case". i show them xda thread with numeros complaining and no luck, had to pay...
I recently sent the phone back to change the keyboard and upgrading of firmware. I had to wait 3 weeks for a keyboard cos they went out of stock for it.
They even changed my cover that had some scratches without even me asking. Also the D-pad was changed cos of some peeling.
I thought that they gave me a reburbished set so I checked the IMEI, its ok. They even offered me an extended warranty program where I pay around 70SGD and it covers even accessories like headphones and such for a one-to-one exchange scheme.
This is SE Singapore Support.
I have to complain about the loss in faith I have had in this company I once trusted, considered reliable. I own a Sony Television, a PS3, Music System, POS Camera and now a Smartphone, the Xperia ZR. But the business policy and Service to Consumers have changed over the years, and this has caused a great emotional and economic distress to me.
I had bought an XPERIA ZR(C5502) on the 11th of September, 2013. After a month of use, suddenly the screen of the phone would not turn on. Other functions were working perfectly as far as my knowledge goes, (i.e. camera button, volume keys etc). A few days ago, it stopped booting altogether.
On contacting the Sony Service centre, he informed me that I have done water damage to my phone, and therefore void my warranty. I repeatedly asked him to open(unscrew) the phone and check for any damages, but he told me that he wont open it, because some litmus paper inside the phone had turned red, indicating water damage. I persistently said that the phone has undergone no water damage, and is not turning on, so to please check for any damage inside and fix it as it was just a month old and was under warranty. I repeatedly told him that I have not brought the phone under water contact in any manner, to which he replied that then it was my fault during purchase, that I didnt check the water indicator strip, thereby asserting that I AS A CONSUMER AM NOT ASSURED A DEFECT FREE PIECE UPON PURCHASE. WHY DIDNT YOU PUT A CLAUSE FOR THE CONSUMER, THAT "PLEASE CHECK THE WATER INDICATOR UPON PURCHASE" ? THAT INDICATOR HAS BEEN RED AS FAR AS I KNOW.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS PHONE IS IDENTIFIED AS "WATERPROOF" BY SONY. But he said I had to pay 80% of the phone's actual cost, to get a replacement, and he will NOT REPAIR IT UNDER WARRANTY. ALSO, HE ADDED, THAT HE WILL ONLY OPEN IT TO INSPECT IF HE GETS A SPECIAL EMAIL FROM SONY INDIA AUTHORITIES, INSTRUCTING HIM TO DO SO.
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I have to complain about the loss in faith I have had in this company I once trusted, considered reliable. I own a Sony Television, a PS3, Music System, POS Camera and now a Smartphone, the Xperia ZR. But the business policy and Service to Consumers have changed over the years, and this has caused a great emotional and economic distress to me.
I had bought an XPERIA ZR(C5502) on the 11th of September, 2013. After a month of use, suddenly the screen of the phone would not turn on. Other functions were working perfectly as far as my knowledge goes, (i.e. camera button, volume keys etc). A few days ago, it stopped booting altogether.
On contacting the Sony Service centre, he informed me that I have done water damage to my phone, and therefore void my warranty. I repeatedly asked him to open(unscrew) the phone and check for any damages, but he told me that he wont open it, because some litmus paper inside the phone had turned red, indicating water damage. I persistently said that the phone has undergone no water damage, and is not turning on, so to please check for any damage inside and fix it as it was just a month old and was under warranty. I repeatedly told him that I have not brought the phone under water contact in any manner, to which he replied that then it was my fault during purchase, that I didnt check the water indicator strip, thereby asserting that I AS A CONSUMER AM NOT ASSURED A DEFECT FREE PIECE UPON PURCHASE. WHY DIDNT YOU PUT A CLAUSE FOR THE CONSUMER, THAT "PLEASE CHECK THE WATER INDICATOR UPON PURCHASE" ? THAT INDICATOR HAS BEEN RED AS FAR AS I KNOW.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS PHONE IS IDENTIFIED AS "WATERPROOF" BY SONY. But he said I had to pay 80% of the phone's actual cost, to get a replacement, and he will NOT REPAIR IT UNDER WARRANTY. ALSO, HE ADDED, THAT HE WILL ONLY OPEN IT TO INSPECT IF HE GETS A SPECIAL EMAIL FROM SONY INDIA AUTHORITIES, INSTRUCTING HIM TO DO SO.
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Where is that litmus paper. Could please point it out.
Just below the battery, at the bottom end
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Where is that litmus paper. Could please point it out.
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Its placed right below the battery, on the bottom right corner, underneath the nudge with which you pull out the battery.
maybe you got a lemon.
maybe the phone did get water damaged without you knowing it.
maybe... I don't know.
one thing i know is that, you're disappointed. (granted, i'd be too)
what i wonder is that, why don't you take it back where you bought it and argue with the seller?
i don't know the general level of customer services in india, but maybe it's more of the norm than the exception?
what i suggest is, venting your frustration with oversensational words and write in caps just make you look STUPID.
just my 2 cents.
Check your inbox.
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nostupidthing said:
maybe you got a lemon.
maybe the phone did get water damaged without you knowing it.
maybe... I don't know.
one thing i know is that, you're disappointed. (granted, i'd be too)
what i wonder is that, why don't you take it back where you bought it and argue with the seller?
i don't know the general level of customer services in India, but maybe it's more of the norm than the exception?
what i suggest is, venting your frustration with oversensational words and write in caps just make you look STUPID.
just my 2 cents.
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Just asking, which country are you from, mate ?
Because in mine, we do not have carrier subsidized phones, and the average earning capacity of a person my age makes this a very expensive purchase (costs me more than my monthly pay, in fact). AND YES, IF YOU LOSE AND ENTIRE MONTHS SALARY INTO SMOKE, YOU'LL BE WRITING IN CAPS TOO.
And, coming back to the general idea of human emotion. If a person loses something, has something stolen, which they deem valuable, it IS human nature to VENT, even if its just on the spur of the moment. But that hardly constitutes in becoming what you just said, i.e. STUPID.
Plus, the services in India are pathetic for Sony. They arent even AUTHORISED to pop open any phones from the Z series, because the lack the pressure or vacuum equipment required to check the IP55-58 rating once they have put it back again. Simply put, you blow INR 30-40,000 on a Z, you are guaranteed to HAVE no customer service. Infact, seeing this crisis prompted Sony Mobile to bundle an ADP of 6 months on all new Z devices, post 15th of Sept 2013.
Well l, you are entitled to your opinions
And I'm ntitled to mine
Btw, nobody forced you to spend a mOnth's salary for a phone. That alone sounds pretty stupid to me...
I'm not trying to defend Sony, just pointing out the obvious. If you don't like my opinions, you're free to ignore it.
I have recently bought a ZR thinking only of the water resistance since I leave in a rainy part of India.
Unfortunately it came to my notice only after the purchase - the bad service for it that it is.
I feel for your loss.
Get a Samung next time. As much as I like Sony, Nokia and Samsung have the best after-sales service in India. This is precisely the reason why I didn't go for the Xperia Z. Sony India needs to up the ante on their customer support.
crap looks like i'll have to take real care of the phone next time it rains..
lesson learned my friend.. although quite an expensive one...
when I was about to buy my zr, i looked at the store returns policy.. the only thing written is that they would refund me if I return the item within 7 days... if I return item within 30 days, i will only get a replacement not a refund... with this in mind, I immediately submerged my phone in a swimming pool for more than 1 hour and its ok - nothing happened wrong... had it been like yours, I would have returned it immediately since the "water proof" description in their store is everywhere...
i highly think that you got a lemon phone though...
I don't know why, but I'm sure I didn't do it. My Sony Xperia Z1s C6916, which I bought from T-Mobile USA, suddenly had a crack in the screen, across the screen, left to right. The screen now is unresponsive and keep reading wrong touch controls. I cannot use it anymore.
Now I google it and found it's a well known problem amongst the Xperia Z series user, and that Sony, most of the time, won't recognize that is a manufacturer defect, and won't repair it under warranty.
As much as I hate it, I need to get it fixed. Question is.... to those with a similar problem, did you send your phone in to Sony for Screen replacement on any Z series ( Z, ZL, ZR, Z Ultra, Z1, etc.). To those who paid for the repairs, how much was it? I just wanna know because a local mobile phone repair shop can do it for $150 USD, more or less.
However, as much as I would hate the Sony right now, I trust them for repairing on their own products, resealing it the water-resistant ways, Though you can make sure that I'll treat it like any other phones, water-resistant or not.
What I'm concern about is the cost. Xperia Care online are idiots who can't tell the difference between a Sony Xperia and a Samsung Galaxy.
Also, I contacted Sony via email, twitter and facebook. I asked how and where to send the phone in. None have reply. on via email, they gave me the reference number.
What I need is for them to open a case, RMA form and number, and an address for me to send it to.
They are taking it awfully slow and I'm hating them for it.
If I could choose, I would want to send it straight to Sony HQ in Japan for repairs.
Have you tried calling them? Their customer service is very good.
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I have to deal with support of various manufacturers daily (working as an it professional)
In Germany it's like this:
As end user your reseller must look at the case. If you bought it in a store go there and ask them.
HOWEVER
I've discovered that most of them are stupid and/or non cooperative.
So your best chance is calling the Sony support. Go to their website and look up their telephone number. When you call them you most likely need to give them some kind of serial (imei). After, tell them your problem and you most likely will get a return sticker. Send in your device via mail and get a repaired (or new) I device about a week later.
I've discovered that this way is the fastest and less troublesome way to deal with broken devices
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I'm in a similar situation. TMo US took one look at it and said they won't fix it, and then informed me that I didn't have device protection on my plan (thought I had, grumble grumble) so they can't do anything for me. Called their claims department, was again informed that they cannot do anything for me.
Has anybody had luck with Sony HQ performing repairs? Or, has anybody had any luck with swapping over a clean screen and digitizer from another Z1s? I can follow teardown and rebuild guides to make the swap, and have all the small device tools necessary to swap the screen.
Meanwhile, my wife has no phone until we find some solution ...
mariussilverwolf said:
I'm in a similar situation. TMo US took one look at it and said they won't fix it, and then informed me that I didn't have device protection on my plan (thought I had, grumble grumble) so they can't do anything for me. Called their claims department, was again informed that they cannot do anything for me.
Has anybody had luck with Sony HQ performing repairs? Or, has anybody had any luck with swapping over a clean screen and digitizer from another Z1s? I can follow teardown and rebuild guides to make the swap, and have all the small device tools necessary to swap the screen.
Meanwhile, my wife has no phone until we find some solution ...
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I just sent my phone in to Sony Repair @ Laredo, TX, USA. wish me luck,
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I just sent my phone in to Sony Repair @ Laredo, TX, USA. wish me luck,
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Subscribing to this thread, because I noticed exactly the same thing yesterday. Took phone out of pocket and the bottom right of the glass is cracked. Not affecting use (for now) because it is in the large bezel area, but I did nothing but take it out of my pocket. Please let us know if it is repaired under warranty by Sony - I know TMo is going to say it was my fault.
Don't some of you use a leather pouch to protect the phone? It takes most of the pressure on the screen when in the pants or something
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HellRoot said:
Don't some of you use a leather pouch to protect the phone? It takes most of the pressure on the screen when in the pants or something
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Never been much of a pouch (or case) user. If I knew the phone glass would crack spontaneously, I probably would have done something different (like not buy it).
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Never been much of a pouch (or case) user. If I knew the phone glass would crack spontaneously, I probably would have done something different (like not buy it).
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most users have screen protectors
i use the speigen tr glass
i have dropped it onto concrete 20 + times still no screen damage
BigDnm01 said:
I don't know why, but I'm sure I didn't do it. My Sony Xperia Z1s C6916, which I bought from T-Mobile USA, suddenly had a crack in the screen, across the screen, left to right. The screen now is unresponsive and keep reading wrong touch controls. I cannot use it anymore.
Now I google it and found it's a well known problem amongst the Xperia Z series user, and that Sony, most of the time, won't recognize that is a manufacturer defect, and won't repair it under warranty.
As much as I hate it, I need to get it fixed. Question is.... to those with a similar problem, did you send your phone in to Sony for Screen replacement on any Z series ( Z, ZL, ZR, Z Ultra, Z1, etc.). To those who paid for the repairs, how much was it? I just wanna know because a local mobile phone repair shop can do it for $150 USD, more or less.
However, as much as I would hate the Sony right now, I trust them for repairing on their own products, resealing it the water-resistant ways, Though you can make sure that I'll treat it like any other phones, water-resistant or not.
What I'm concern about is the cost. Xperia Care online are idiots who can't tell the difference between a Sony Xperia and a Samsung Galaxy.
Also, I contacted Sony via email, twitter and facebook. I asked how and where to send the phone in. None have reply. on via email, they gave me the reference number.
What I need is for them to open a case, RMA form and number, and an address for me to send it to.
They are taking it awfully slow and I'm hating them for it.
If I could choose, I would want to send it straight to Sony HQ in Japan for repairs.
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If you want to save a lot, you can try to replace the screen by yourself. But it is hard job...
Share a Z1 repair guide with u. Hope it can help you.
Sony fixed my cracked phone, free of charge. I guess it was under warranty. They didn't even contacted me, they just ship it back to me with a UPS tracking number.
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Sony fixed my cracked phone, free of charge. I guess it was under warranty. They didn't even contacted me, they just ship it back to me with a UPS tracking number.
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Wow you really got lucky! Either that, or Sony knows there's a problem with their phones and don't want to get into a whole debacle about it.
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Wow you really got lucky! Either that, or Sony knows there's a problem with their phones and don't want to get into a whole debacle about it.
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I really feel I lucked out. I was thinking I need to pay 200-300 USD for repairs and was dreading it. I even didn't wanted to send it in because I didn't have the money to spare.
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I really feel I lucked out. I was thinking I need to pay 200-300 USD for repairs and was dreading it. I even didn't wanted to send it in because I didn't have the money to spare.
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Well ok then. Looks like it is time to try and find a backup phone to use for a week or so while I send mine in.
BigDnm01 said:
Sony fixed my cracked phone, free of charge. I guess it was under warranty. They didn't even contacted me, they just ship it back to me with a UPS tracking number.
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Any idea how long after they received it you got that tracking number? They've had mine for a little over a week and I'm just curious. Thanks
In about 2 weeks, i remember i sent it via fedex 4-11, they receive it 4-15 and i received the tracking number on the 25th.
LotoTutu said:
If you want to save a lot, you can try to replace the screen by yourself. But it is hard job...
Share a Z1 repair guide with u. Hope it can help you.
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This is a good method to reduce cost, but you'll have a higher chance in losing your water / dust resistance. You can also damage your phone if you're not careful. Not sure if people really care about the resistances though.
BigDnm01 said:
I don't know why, but I'm sure I didn't do it. My Sony Xperia Z1s C6916, which I bought from T-Mobile USA, suddenly had a crack in the screen, across the screen, left to right. The screen now is unresponsive and keep reading wrong touch controls. I cannot use it anymore.
Now I google it and found it's a well known problem amongst the Xperia Z series user, and that Sony, most of the time, won't recognize that is a manufacturer defect, and won't repair it under warranty.
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I sent my phone in to Laredo as well, my phone didn't have a warranty associated to it and they replaced the screen (along with some other parts) for free. If you want water/dust resistance, shell in the $25 for inspection / shipping and see what they'll charge you. For me they just repaired it without leaving an email or phone call. If they charge you an unreasonable price ($150 < x) then have them send it back to you and repair it yourself or have a third-party vendor do it for you.
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This is a good method to reduce cost, but you'll have a higher chance in losing your water / dust resistance. You can also damage your phone if you're not careful. Not sure if people really care about the resistances though.
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In fact , the Sony customer support can't guarantee water resistance either after disassemble your Z1s.
The oem precut adhesive should not cause any problems with ruining your ip58 waterproof.
I've done lcd swaps and it should be properly sealed if you use that. As I've read, brand new Z1s have leaked water aswell so it might be about luck.
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My Sony Xperia Z1s C6916, which I bought from T-Mobile USA, suddenly had a crack in the screen, across the screen, left to right.
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This just happened to my bf's z1s. He put it in his pocket when he got out of the car, walked into our apt, and when he took the phone out it was completely cracked and the screen was unresponsive.
He's sending it out today be checked by Sony. The rep made it VERY clear that the "engineers" would look at the phone and determine if it was a manufacture defect or not. If it was a defect, they'd fix it and return it. If not, then they'll call and discuss repair options.
You might not be able to tell from the photos, but the cracks are under the glass, and it's clear that it's not do to user abuse. Hopefully the "engineers" see it the same way.
Posts like these helped convince us that sending the phone to Sony was worth a shot, so I just wanted to share our experience. I hope he has the same success you did with getting it fixed. I'll update in a couple of weeks on the verdict.
PS: for anyone else that faces this issue, TMO insurance will not cover this without a $150 deductible. We were told that regardless of what caused the crack, they don't exchange phones with cracked screens. The TMO rep we talked to def didn't believe that the crack happened spontaneously. Don't waste your time.
I feel I am a Foolish owner of SONY Z3 Compact - it did not turn waterproof anytime I used
Not sure if posting here will help me at all, however I am doing it.
Issue1:
First time before I could take my phone into the swimming pool I had dipped it in a bucket of water to see if water resistance works. The phone's camera , gps etc stopped working.
The service center person said the liquid indicators are 'red' without actually being red. Then I escalated about this to sony customer care that I do not trust this as I had closed the ports properly and dipped in the water . However I was suggested to give the phone for service and was taken under warranty.
I wrote another email to sony that I no more have confidence in this phone as water entered even after the ports were closed.
However after a delayed and long wait I received my phone after service . I got assurance from the service center that now water resistance works.
Issue 2:
I took my kids to the pool the very next day to take videos of them inside water. I had ensured that I closed the ports and also my family checked again for me. (Remember that I had taken extra caution since I had bad experience earlier with my phone (refer to issue 1))
Took few vidoes underwater and we were happy. An hour later I found that my phone was fully dead this time and indicators showing red inspite of closing the ports properly.
Guessing the service center guy would definitely not honor warranty, I wrote an email to SONY immediately asking for refund as I was fully frustrated , feeling I was fooled and cheated and royally taken for a ride with my time and money.
Not to my surprise the service center person said the warranty was void and will send me the estimate. While in the service center I had realized that both the flaps were interchanged during the first service. The service center guys said that should not be an issue as both the flaps are same.Not sure how far its correct.
I feel this is unfair to loot me this way without my mistake. I am deeply hurt with the way things went with SONY.
I do not want to use my insurance as it was not an accidental damage , its product flaw and poor built and non-water resistant product.
I want SONY to solve my issue as its not my mistake at all , I am in full conscious with my whole experience in the pool that day.
I am not hopeful of SONY anymore until you resolve this issue .
Embarrassing experience for choosing SONY, time spent and disgusting experience of visiting service center from the time I bought this phone.
Yesterday I collected my phone from service center without getting repaired , as I was told that I have to pay for the service , that too huge money!. Customer care manager was of no help, he kept saying it was an L4 technician check...don't know what that means...all I know is the phone is dead inspite of ports being closed.
This experience makes me feel those days have gone where SONY had good products and service.
I am not new to SONY , I have used SONY W810i, SONY P1i, Xperia previous Android Series, SONY C3 Dual, Z1` and now Z3 compact. This should say enough that I am not new to SONY and not very new to waterproof phones. I cannot afford not to close ports after all the earlier experience with service center.
Did anybody face similar issues? if yes how did you get it right within warranty?
ananthvinay said:
I feel I am a Foolish owner of SONY Z3 Compact - it did not turn waterproof anytime I used
Not sure if posting here will help me at all, however I am doing it.
Issue1:
First time before I could take my phone into the swimming pool I had dipped it in a bucket of water to see if water resistance works. The phone's camera , gps etc stopped working.
The service center person said the liquid indicators are 'red' without actually being red. Then I escalated about this to sony customer care that I do not trust this as I had closed the ports properly and dipped in the water . However I was suggested to give the phone for service and was taken under warranty.
I wrote another email to sony that I no more have confidence in this phone as water entered even after the ports were closed.
However after a delayed and long wait I received my phone after service . I got assurance from the service center that now water resistance works.
Issue 2:
I took my kids to the pool the very next day to take videos of them inside water. I had ensured that I closed the ports and also my family checked again for me. (Remember that I had taken extra caution since I had bad experience earlier with my phone (refer to issue 1))
Took few vidoes underwater and we were happy. An hour later I found that my phone was fully dead this time and indicators showing red inspite of closing the ports properly.
Guessing the service center guy would definitely not honor warranty, I wrote an email to SONY immediately asking for refund as I was fully frustrated , feeling I was fooled and cheated and royally taken for a ride with my time and money.
Not to my surprise the service center person said the warranty was void and will send me the estimate. While in the service center I had realized that both the flaps were interchanged during the first service. The service center guys said that should not be an issue as both the flaps are same.Not sure how far its correct.
I feel this is unfair to loot me this way without my mistake. I am deeply hurt with the way things went with SONY.
I do not want to use my insurance as it was not an accidental damage , its product flaw and poor built and non-water resistant product.
I want SONY to solve my issue as its not my mistake at all , I am in full conscious with my whole experience in the pool that day.
I am not hopeful of SONY anymore until you resolve this issue .
Embarrassing experience for choosing SONY, time spent and disgusting experience of visiting service center from the time I bought this phone.
Yesterday I collected my phone from service center without getting repaired , as I was told that I have to pay for the service , that too huge money!. Customer care manager was of no help, he kept saying it was an L4 technician check...don't know what that means...all I know is the phone is dead inspite of ports being closed.
This experience makes me feel those days have gone where SONY had good products and service.
I am not new to SONY , I have used SONY W810i, SONY P1i, Xperia previous Android Series, SONY C3 Dual, Z1` and now Z3 compact. This should say enough that I am not new to SONY and not very new to waterproof phones. I cannot afford not to close ports after all the earlier experience with service center.
Did anybody face similar issues? if yes how did you get it right within warranty?
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I never did dip any of my Xperia's in the water despite owning the Z1 Compact and Z3 Compact but the best option would be to bring it to the nearest Sony Service center, being here in XDA I can only assume you already rooted your phone and probably unlocked the bootloader which already voids the warranty.
Warranty void since SONY says ports were not closed properly...
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I never did dip any of my Xperia's in the water despite owning the Z1 Compact and Z3 Compact but the best option would be to bring it to the nearest Sony Service center, being here in XDA I can only assume you already rooted your phone and probably unlocked the bootloader which already voids the warranty.
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I never rooted my phone, not that tech savy,
Simple, I wanted a phone which could take videos in water, i had ensured that ports are closed with ultra care and then took videos of my kids in water, that's what I bought the phone for, otherwise there are better options like Apple etc, and the swimming pool is a fresh water pool. Water entered the phone and showed the indicators in the ports ' red'. SONY says that ports were not closed(which is not true). I have been reading posts where there are many people who faced similar issue and warranty was not honored by SONY. Not sure how to solve this issue.
Despite the z3 compact and sony's claims of it being waterproof, I would not test sony's claims. I love my z3 compact and IF I was to take video's underwater, I'd still invest in a waterproof case just to ensure that the integrity of the phone and sony's warranty. So upon reading the Original posters thread, There is no way I'd take this phone underwater now, especially if sony refuses to honor their warranty.
Taking videos underwater works for me though. I used it in the pool for over an hour. I guess you're just unlucky :/ i also wash it every now and then
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Hi there,
I've recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G ( SM-G781B) and I've noticed part of the display is cloudy/distorted when black.
It's most noticeable on the lock screen, or whenever the background is black.
It looks like some sort of defect. Does anyone have any ideas?
I noticed some cloudiness (to a lesser degree) on my Samsung Galaxy S8.
I bought the S20 FE brand new from Samsung.
I've attached some images for reference.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.
bladez said:
If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.
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Because a similar effect happened on the S8 so not sure if it's just Samsung displays or something else. Mostly visible when the room is dark so it's hard to show when the room is lit.
This is the lottery of OLED screens. Some are perfect and some are (defective) like this.
Mine has a uniformity issue, too. It's only visible in low brightness dark gray when in a dark room, so I decided to keep mine. I've seen similar issues in other oled panels of Galaxy and Pixel phones as well before. There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.
tkshk said:
There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.
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Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.
Not sure about the exchange policy in the UK. The display uniformity didn't get worse over time in my old phones.
Only problem is the Samsung stores are closed in the UK at the moment.
user128494 said:
Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.
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EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.
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There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad
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The issue is the S20FE has an AMOLED screen so there is NO backlight, you should not being seeing any kind of 'glow' on put black backgrounds. Also my S20FE 5G shows no such defect.
b1k3rdude said:
EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.
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The problem is, if I do send it off, they may just reject replacement of the item, as in download mode it says Warranty Void: 0x01
On the Samsung Forum a Samsung Mod talks about the warranty being voided in a similar thing:
Re: S10e flashing and warranty question.
So you're saying that by using Samsung's official firmware and tool I voided my warranty? Even tho I never rooted my phone or modified it in any way. I've mot installed any custom roms or anything? Just official stuff. And my warranty void counter on the phone remains at 0. Even tho this still...
eu.community.samsung.com
Thats the KNOX warranty only! Not the hardware warranty, don't let Samsung bully you into believing otherwise.
Of course the mods/admins on a manufacturers forum are going to tow the company line, but its just a community forum. Actual law is what you should pay head to, in this case EU law -
-https://www.piana.eu/root/ - see below
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" Does rooting your device (e.g. an Android phone) and replacing its operating system with something else void your statutory warranty, if you are a consumer?
In short: No. Just the fact that you modified or changed the software of your device, is not a sufficient reason to void your statutory warranty. As long as you have bought the device as a consumer in the European Union.
A bit longer: Directive 1999/44/CE dictates¹ that any object meeting certain criteria (including telephones, computers, routers etc.) being sold to a consumer² inside the European Union, has to carry a warranty from the seller that the device will meet the quality that you would expect for such a device for a period of 2 years. A telephone is an example of such a device and is an object that comprises many parts, from the case to the screen to the radio, to a mini-computer, to the battery, to the software that runs it. If any of these parts³ stop working in those 2 years, the seller has to fix or replace them. What is more these repairs should not cost the consumer a single cent — the seller has to cover the expenses (Directive 1999/44/CE, §3). If the seller has any expenses for returning it to the manufacturer, this is not your problem as a consumer.
If your device becomes defective in the first 6 months, it is presumed that the defect was there all along, so you should not need to prove anything. If your device becomes defective after the first 6 months, but before 2 years run out, you are still covered. The difference is only that if the defect arises now, the seller can claim that the defect was caused by some action that was triggered by non-normal use of the device.
But in order to avoid needing to repair or replace your device, the seller has to prove that your action caused⁵ the defect. It is generally recognised by courts that unless there is a sign of abuse of the device, the defect is there because the device was faulty from the beginning. That is just common sense, after all.
So, we finally come to the question of rooting, flashing and changing the software. Unless the seller can prove that modifying the software, rooting your device or flashing it with some other OS or firmware was the cause for the defect, you are still covered for defects during those 2 years. A good test to see if it is the software’s fault is to flash it back with stock firmware/OS and see if the problem persists. If it does, it is not a software- caused problem. If it is not possible to revert it stock software any more, it is also not a software-caused defect (unless you have “bricked” the phone while flashing it, un-bricking is not covered by any statutory warranty). There are very few hardware defects that are caused by software — e.g. overriding the speaker volume above the safe level could blow the speaker. Many manufacturers of consumer devices write into their warranties a paragraph that by changing the software or “rooting” your device, you void the warranty.
You have to understand that in EU we have a “statutory warranty”, which is compulsory that the seller must offer by law (Directive 1999/44/CE, §7.1) and a “voluntary warranty” which the seller or manufacturer can, but does not need to, offer as an additional service to the consumer. Usually the “voluntary warranty” covers a longer period of time or additional accidents not covered by law.⁶ If though the seller, the manufacturer or anyone else offers a “voluntary warranty”, he is bound to it as well! So, even if, by any chance your “voluntary warranty” got voided, by European law, you should still have the 2 year “compulsory warranty” as it is described in the Directive and which is the topic of this article. In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations.
The warranty under this Directive¹ is only applicable inside the European Union and only if you bought the device as a consumer.² "