Hi,
I am currently on the Darky v7.0 and I wanted to flash to 7.0.2
Do I just copy the rom in the sd folder and flash using rom manager just as i did before?
or do i have to switch back to stock 2.1 (rogers) and then flash 7.0.2?
This will be my second time flashing.
Please advice.
Thanks
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
peachpuff said:
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
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This is the thread and the link to it. it does say "No wipe".
[ROM] Official Darky Port v7.0.2 No Wipe]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880859&page=53
so does it mean its ok to install over 7.0?
does no wipe mean i dont have to wipe/remove the rom before flashing a new one?
Thanks
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
Phateless said:
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
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samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
Pirateghost said:
samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
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Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
Phateless said:
Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
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you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
Pirateghost said:
you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
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That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
Phateless said:
That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
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So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
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yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
Pirateghost said:
yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
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Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
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Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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At least with HTC the kernel is part of the Rom and IS included in nandroids.
Hey, so I decided to root my Mini. That part worked (installed the zip from stock recovery) but then I attempted to install the CWM recovery using the update zip method and I don't know whether I should of used ODIN instead because I can't backup my current ROM.
If I tried flashing CWM recovery using ODIN , will it overwrite existing recovery and will it allow me to backup my current ROM. Can't mount system can't mount cache errors??
Just to verify also, I wipe user data before installing new custom ROM ? Been a while since i last installed one.
Thanks for your help!
Flashing CWM will overwrite current recovery, you'd have to flash stock to remove it
As for creating backups you can't backup stock roms because of how they work, the closest to stock that can be backed up (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176927)
Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
before you do anything get a nandroid backup and save that original nandroid backup.
Nandroid Backups are a full ROM backup, that means:
Radios
ROMs
Kernels
User Data
Trying to claim a warranty after you violate the terms and services isn't the most honest thing to but if you intent to cheat the warranty system that just hold on to your backup. A nandroid backs up everything
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
subtil123 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
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CWM stands for clockwordmod, its a custom recovery. You need a custom recovery before you can start changing things about your tablet. It is Not a kernel. Think of a car. A kernel is like eh engine, the recovery is like a toolbox. Its more complicated but thats the idea. The stock recovery is too limited, which is why we have custom ones
When you do a nandroid back up it backs up everything. When you do a nandroid back it backs up the kernel as well as the ROM all of your settings and app data. All in one.
If you want a stock nandroid Do it first thing after you have a custom recovery. A nandroid is saved in the clockwordmod folder. Then save that file somewhere safe. Flash drive computer t whatever.
Hope this helps
subtil123 said:
Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Here is the Flashable zip for backup your Old recovery and kernel
First, You need root
From your stock recovery, Flash backupkernelrecovery.zip.
Approximately 30 seconds, backup process will make a folder "mybackups" in your SD card,
Reboot as normal, and Open "My Files" and see folder "mybackups"..
You'll find 2 file recovery.img(your stock recovery) and boot.img (stock kernel)
For Restore your recovery.img
download overcome cwm from alterbridge86 thread, unzip the file and replace recovery.img from that files with yours..zip again and flash from recovery, reboot and you got your old stock recovery..
Warning: Only restore Stock recovery after nandroid Restore done..with same firmware
Tested on my P7300 and works..
Hello All
Thanks a lot for your help.
I'm now on overcome 2.2.0 with Motley Kernel.
I just done a Nandroid Backup before. I also found on Net a file to restore all, Stock rom & Kernel.
Thanks again.
I have a SGS GT-I9000 rooted n a ICS ROM
but when i tried to restore my default ROM back with CWM it got stuck on boot splash screen.
I also tried flashing the same kernel again but it didnt worked.
And when i boot into recovery mode it gives me errors like
E:can't mount/cache/recovery/log
E:can't open/cache/recovery/log
E:unknown volume for path[/cache/recovery/last_log]
and so on......
any solution anybody????plss.......
Hi.
You can't restore your old gingerbread stock from ICS via nandroid.
You must flash the Stock ROM with Odin.
Befor that maybe you can flash the ICS kernel again and boot into ICS, then backup your clockworkmod folder via USB. After the Backup flash a stock ROM and cf-root or semaphore 2.5.0 via Odin.... after that load your clockworkmod folder to your internal SD-Card and boot into CWM. Now you can restore your Backup from gingerbread.
Sorry for my poor english. I hope you understand me.
// use the semaphore 0.8.1 kernel for ics. Than boot your phone and save the clockworkmod folder. When dosn't work, 1. flash the stock ROM 2. flash cf-root 3 boot in cwm go to restore and look for the backup... it must be in there
daggi78 said:
Hi.
You can't restore your old gingerbread stock from ICS via nandroid.
You must flash the Stock ROM with Odin.
Befor that maybe you can flash the ICS kernel again and boot into ICS, then backup your clockworkmod folder via USB. After the Backup flash a stock ROM and cf-root or semaphore 2.5.0 via Odin.... after that load your clockworkmod folder to your internal SD-Card and boot into CWM. Now you can restore your Backup from gingerbread.
Sorry for my poor english. I hope you understand me.
// use the semaphore 0.8.1 kernel for ics. Than boot your phone and save the clockworkmod folder. When dosn't work, 1. flash the stock ROM 2. flash cf-root 3 boot in cwm go to restore and look for the backup... it must be in there
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Thanx mate thanx a lot
u saved my mobile from dying.
You're welcome.
my act is:
1. do a nandroid Backup of the system befor flash a new one.
2. Save the hole Backup folder on my PC and rename it like " system_old_date "
3. Flash the new system.
4. do a nandroid backup from the new system.
5. Save the hole Backup folder on my PC and rename it like " system_new_date "
With this 5 steps I'm always on the safe side.
i do the same but this time dont kno how but it went wrong and those errors poped out
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I think:
The problem is ICS and Gingerbread are differnet systems, with different Kernels and paths.
When you start the restoreprocess the systemdata will be restored but not the kernel with CWM. Both systems have different paths, and so you get this error.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
daggi78 said:
I think:
The problem is ICS and Gingerbread are differnet systems, with different Kernels and paths.
When you start the restoreprocess the systemdata will be restored but not the kernel with CWM. Both systems have different paths, and so you get this error.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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may be ,but it didnt happned when i restored my SGS2 from CM9 to my rooted kernel
it only happned in my SGS
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That's strange. Perhaps a developer knows why that is?
Reflash
Perhaps, the instruction to installing ICS states that you should have done a full wipe (data + partition) and installed the ROM/Kernal again. It would have worked...anyways you are back on GB, enjoy
Hello guys,
I would like to flash a different version of CWM onto my N7000 but somehow it does not stick.
I currently run AOKP 4.1.2 and it has 6.0.1.5 as CWM which always gives you the md5 generation error when you do a nandroid backup.
I've installed Rom Manager and downloaded a different version of CWM and tried to install it both with Rom manager and also in CWM itself.
On the first boot after I flash some other recovery like the one from rom Manager (6.0.1.2) it actually loads the new recovery and lets me do a sucessful nandroid for example, but when i reboot into recovery another time the old recovery is back.
When I flash a new rom though, the CWM does get permanently replaced. I flashed a different rom which came with CWM 6.0.2.8 and then I permanently had that version. (same behaviour when I tried to overwrite it with the 6.0.1.2, wouldnt stick).
I even tried just partially restoring the nandroid and leaving boot out, but then phone will get stuck on boot.
Is there any way to permanently flash a recovery to the note without overwriting the whole boot.img? CWM and Rom Manager do not seem to be able. Maybe Heimdall or ODIN? Been so long since I had to use them..
Hope someone knows whats goin on with the recoveries.?!
because the recovery is in the kernel. to change recovery, you need to change the kernel. MD5 error is a known bug in AOKP.
you can use this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmgzcjN0MWMub25uYW5kYnVwIl0.
to make a nandroid backup on AOKP roms
nokiamodeln91 said:
because the recovery is in the kernel. to change recovery, you need to change the kernel. MD5 error is a known bug in AOKP.
you can use this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmgzcjN0MWMub25uYW5kYnVwIl0.
to make a nandroid backup on AOKP roms
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thanks man, yea i got some tools installed that should be able to do a nandroid from running system, was just wondering if there is a way to permanently switch the recovery - it is sometimes booted, right after flash but then its gone - so there must be a way to stop the restore or?
Or are there any custom aokp kernels out there for the n7000? usually they only support TW or CM as far as I saw, or only older versions.