I was thinking about the camera on the one and then I got to thinking about how on my HOXL there's no way to utilize the image sense chip on AOSP roms. And the one has this fancy ultra pixil camera that I assume relies heavily on the image chip, right? So do you guys think that maybe the camera will be either totally useless or just turn into a really crappy 4mp camera on AOSP roms? I'm wondering this because I know that many people buy htc phones for their outstanding build quality whether they like sense or not, thinking that they can just throw an AOSP rom on there, but if this is true it might pose problems for the devs. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could chime in here
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The ultra pixel doesn't rely on the image chip the ultra pixel is just a term they created for the fact that there using a 4 mp camera with the sensor they used. The images it creates should still be comaprable to that of the latest phones due to the light it capture per pixel which reduces the amount of noise. So the ultra pixel is hardware and not software so it shouldnt rely on the image chip. Althought since aosp can't use the chip that means that u won't be able to use the bonus features of it like zoe and things like that
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The ultra pixel doesn't rely on the image chip the ultra pixel is just a term they created for the fact that there using a 4 mp camera with the sensor they used. The images it creates should still be comaprable to that of the latest phones due to the light it capture per pixel which reduces the amount of noise. So the ultra pixel is hardware and not software so it shouldnt rely on the image chip. Althought since aosp can't use the chip that means that u won't be able to use the bonus features of it like zoe and things like that
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So what sets it apart from the 5mp cameras of older smartphones? Shouldn't they capture comparable light to the one?
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megapixels is not all you need, you need a good light sensor too, light sensors in older devices let in less light and are inferior.
A 4mp camera with a great light sensor will still take better pictures then a 5mp or 8mp+ if the light sensor is poor which usually is the case on mobiles
Camera will work, but you won't get the same range of options/controls and typically processing is not quite as nice.
M.
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megapixels is not all you need, you need a good light sensor too, light sensors in older devices let in less light and are inferior.
A 4mp camera with a great light sensor will still take better pictures then a 5mp or 8mp+ if the light sensor is poor which usually is the case on mobiles
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He nailed it on the dot. Its not just megapixels its the cameras sensor that also plays a role. That's y u get noise in older camera because it didn't capture enough light for the pixel and that was what lead HTC to go to 4 to give them more light
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Own and love the Galaxy Nexus, I think 16gb is well more than enough storage for on-the-go music and app combination.
The two major issues I have with it however are:
1) The camera quality.
I find the image quality quite grainy after taking photos. The camera just doesn't cut it for me. However I'm hoping that the 8MP camera on the Nexus4 (I know megapixels isn't everything) will solve that issue.
***2) THE SPEAKER LOUDNESS***
I think of the old Christmas poem "Night Before Christmas"...
"'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even the Gnexus at max volume".
That'll be the deciding factor on if I'll be picking up the phone or not, in all honesty.
Love you XDA,
-Aero
Well its not release yet, but we can take a few clues.
Base on this review: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a24txcFBWyE
the LG Optimus G have very weak speaker, saying that when on its back, one might even miss a phone call. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same for the Nexus 4.
As for camera, I have no proof that the 8MP camera of this device is similar to one on the Optimus G for ATT, but maybe if it is, we can look at those sample shots posted online. I think the general consensus is its not that great and might have trouble under low lighting. Overall I think it will be at least better than the current 5MP which is enough for me.
Just wait for feedbacks from other buyers before making the purchase.
PS. I still laugh at the fact when the Galaxy Nexus was just released people claimed its 5MP camera is better than the SII camera, even with side by side pictures comparison.
I'm disappointed it won't support GLONASS, base on the specs from the PlayStore.
The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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f2.4
i really love Nexus 4 but One X camera is amazing
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Well, just a very very simple thought: they advertise with their new feature, that panorama thing .. that's one selling point.. so the camera quality MUST be good, right?
Oh man, but I just remember Apple's Maps service ... hmmm.
Here's hoping both are better on the Nexus 4 as they are both somewhat of a disappointment on my Galaxy Nexus for me.
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From Josh Topolsky's initial impressions, he stated that the camera performance was a big improvement, and that Google has specifically concentrated on low-light performance. I have high hopes that a Sony sensor, let alone a BSI sensor, leads to respectable if not admirable image quality. If the f/2.4 aperture is an indication, we could easily see this sensor beat the GS3 in terms of how much light it lets in, but it all comes down to how aggressive noise correction is, which is entirely software, and affects image sharpness the most.
While the camera is a big deal to me (a BIG deal), what I'm more worried about is the speaker/earpiece output. As everyone knows, the GNex speaker and earpiece aren't great (that's putting it mildly), so I'm really hoping this phone has great speaker/earpiece volume. Do I expect it to rival my SIII? No. But being able to actually use the phone as a PHONE in a crowded place and being able to hear would be nice.
According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high
Sony makes the camera for the legendary iPhones so I don't see why they would disappoint now.
Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920
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According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high
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ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.
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ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.
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you got it reversed, Att model has the 8mp camera while the sprint version has the 13mp camera.
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The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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Im sorry but how do you know that it has a Sony BSI Sensor ?
I mean that would be great as Sony makes the best sensors right now …
Thats pretty much one of my biggest selling points as i use the cameras a lot..
It was mentioned in the video done by The Verge.
Gayga
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Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920
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I dont expect the 920 to be great...the 900 was overhyped with the ziess lens and was garbage. the 920 will have GREAT low light photos- that much we know...as for regular performance, I think it will still be slightly below the top notch camera phones (S3, OneX, iphone, etc)
Praying the nexus 4 has a great camera...if so, I will snatch it up.
and what about capture speed ?
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The One Series camera's and the Lumia 920 have a lower aperture f2.0 which is better suited for low light conditions. Now I'm pleased with the HOX camera, this has to be on par at least for day shots as I rarely take that many low light shots.
Be interesting to know what BSI module it uses so we can make comparisons!
I hope the camera is good same as speakers..
Regarding the latest and fastest phone by HTC, why is it having a low megapixel compare to other phone eg. Sensation XE or One X? Why would anyone buy with a low MP camera?
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Regarding the latest and fastest phone by HTC, why is it having a low megapixel compare to other phone eg. Sensation XE or One X? Why would anyone buy with a low MP camera?
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It has htc zoe the most advanced camera software ever i have them both s4 and htc one the htc one is better at taking photos at the pub with friends a very good flash quality that can be better then s4 at night
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Regarding the latest and fastest phone by HTC, why is it having a low megapixel compare to other phone eg. Sensation XE or One X? Why would anyone buy with a low MP camera?
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Must we answer this?
Pretty much every single review of this phone says exactly why this is so.
But I'll tell you. The theory is that the camera sensor, instead of being split into 13 million pixels, is split into only 4 million pixels. This allows more light to enter each pixel because each pixel is bigger. It works best in low light shots where every photon counts. If you are never ever going to need to zoom into pictures, then theoretically, the megapixel count doesn't matter so long as the picture resolution matches or exceeds that of the display. However, you do need those extra pixels when you want to zoom in or crop a photo.
This feature is not as apparent in good lighting situations, so you might want to go with something else if that's the case the majority of the time. I think Nokia was able to create a camera that, supposedly, beats the One's in all aspects. Look up Lumia 925.
It's your choice to make.
hey guys you know that both of these phones are pretty good.so lets see if the cameras are the same too.
To see the comparison,go here:http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/12/04/nexus-4-vs-iphone-5-camera-shootout/
The camera isn't that bad and it can only become better, thanks to google's updates
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The camera isn't that bad and it can only become better, thanks to google's updates
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Okay, i honestly thought the iphone 5 is miles ahead camera wise. Guess i was wrong, comparison makes me more than satisfied with the output.
The Iphone 5 Camera isn´t better, you can´t rely on such comparisons because you could so easily manipulate them in a way you like. After you had both smartphones in your hand you can decide which suites you better. But in the end its a phone which isn´t made for taking hq pics, like all other smartphones as well.
im just annoyed with the pinkish purple tinting in photos
Never owned iPhone so didn't know it was so close to Nexus 4 in camera department.
All iPhone does it add punch to certain colors like green to make the photo look good. Nexus 4 on the other hand had more accurate colors. Especially the first photo where sky color was pretty accurate with Nexus 4 where as iPhone have it purplish tinge
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I own both phones, iP5 and N4 and the iP5 camera is much better no question about it.
I think our camera blows. Only cuz low light is horrible.it's the same as the galaxy nexus.but I can't complain since the price is half an iPhone.
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The iPhone 5 suffers from horrible purple fringing when faced directly at the sun (or another source of light). Apple won't come up with a recall, just expect a fix once the 5s comes out.
The camera on the iphone 5 is better, its one of the best cameras out there on a phone.
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I think our camera blows. Only cuz low light is horrible.it's the same as the galaxy nexus.but I can't complain since the price is half an iPhone.
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+1 My wife's Galaxy S4 makes me wanna cry. And to the point about phones not taking HQ pics, today's phones are without a doubt the next generation of point and shoot. We NEVER take our camera anywhere anymore unless we just happened to remember it. Now there's phones coming with 41 megapixel and great lenses. Cameras are becoming more important as we shift to this digital lifestyle. I for one wish we had a little better camera. But it works for me..... For now.
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sweet I can compare to phone I will nver touch or want
I think the only reason iPhone camera *might* arguably produce better looking pictures is because of apples software which automatically adds a bunch of effects for the iSheep. I can just take a pic and edit it with default editor and I bet it would look better than iPhone s pics.
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I remember having an iPhone and the camera is way better than the current Nexus 4 camera. Still room for improvement!
You also have to consider the price of the device out-right... N4 is a much cheaper phone using parts not has expensive as the iPhone5... if you take that into consideration, N4 puts up a good fight..
So if you compare it strickly on hardware without factor in price, there is no comparison the iPhone5 will be a better device...
Lots of Apple haters.. Then again it is XDA. Personally, and from a photographer's standpoint, my iPhone 4S took better images and videos than my Nexus. More specifically in low light situations. Can't see how the Nexus would also take better images than the iPhone 5. Because that would mean the Nexus takes better pictures than the Galaxy S4. Either way, I'm not saying our camera on or phone is terrible, but it most definitely isn't in the conversation of being in the top 3, and possibly not in the top 5.
As an owner of iPhone 4s, user of iPhone 5s and a new owner of Nexus 4, I'd say both iPhones have superior cameras in terms of image quality and colors. Nexus 4 has seems to have a faster camera though, and while the image quality isn't top, it is still quite good. Why would you expect a better camera on a much cheaper device anyway?
The issue I have with the N4 is that the pics look good in preview mode sat using up a quarter of the desktop screen but if you go full size...whoahhhhhhhhh. Noise noise noise.:silly:
I've tried several different camera apps (even one that will take 8MP 12MB .PNG shots) and the result is the same for all of them, just noisy full size shots, even in bright sunlight. So the issue with the N4's camera isn't compression at the file output stage it's somewhere earlier in the chain.
Colour balance is good though.
Someone really needs to hack that camera but I fear it may be a hardware limitation.
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The camera on the iphone 5 is better, its one of the best cameras out there on a phone.
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its behind s4 camera, not even talking about Lumia 920/925/1020. But again any phone looks like toy agaisnt Lumia cameras...
Personally from my experience all Nexus phones have come with crappy cameras. The problem is the company doesn't implement a really good camera for the Nexus which is beyond me. Even though it's an 8mp camera my note 2 takes way better still images as well as videos.
For instance on this phone when recording a video you can't click the screen to focus in on whatever your recording, instead it just takes a picture which is stupid. Quality isn't great.
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With it looking like the nexus 6 will perhaps be a bigger moto x, can anyone tell me what the camera is in medium light?
My note 3 takes really poor pictures and lags taking shots indoors unless in bright sunlight. Most of the time I get a blurr where my son has moved before its taken the shot.
I'm considering ditching samsung as the note 4 sounds to be just the same.
Any info much appreciated
With normal shots it gets grainy in places with shadows in any lighting situation. In low light situation it is very grainy, in fact the Moto G 2014 take less grainy pictures in low light. This is also software things related to post processing technology, not so much the hardware.
In order to get great pictures with this phone and prevent grains, I use HDR mode, which will significantly improve the details in the shadows and also significantly reduce grains.
Unfortunately the camera is still not good, particularly in low light situations. My old S4 and even an iPhone 5S have way better cameras...
I've been disappointed in the camera and feel like it's performing worse than my old phone (Moto X 2013). I've tried different settings without success, but I haven't tried a different app. What I've read says it uses the same sensor as the G3, which does quite well with pictures, so I'm guessing it's either the optics or software. If it's the latter, then it could improve.
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I wish they would have included OIS, if I rest the phone on something and hold it completely still I can get pretty decent shots
After repeated attempts, including stabilizing with a rail, this was the best picture I could get in an outdoor setting in overcast daylight. The others were blurrier and noisier. This one is still pretty bad (zoom in to see how bad). Hopefully they'll update the camera software and improve things.
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I don't have the phone, I should not comment, but I have seen at least 100 samples from different sources, anyone can if wants, and to my eyes the camera might be slightly better in capturing details under bright light, but it is significantly worse in low light when compared with previous generation's X. Yes, it's normal, as the previous OMV sensor was meant to capture more light, but this Sony one doesn't, but that can't be a reason to not match G3's or S4's IQ while they all have the same sensor! Okay, not same IQ, but at least this sensor should give those phones some minimum competition right? But nah, it doesn't! I literally have no idea what and how Motorola messed up with the sensor! Also notice that the camera is still inconsistent. One shot looks pretty fine, and the other looks awful! Exposure too is all over the place!
In simple words, in 2014, this picture quality is not acceptable. And I am extremely sad and disappointed with that.
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Unfortunately the camera is still not good, particularly in low light situations. My old S4 and even an iPhone 5S have way better cameras...
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I agree. Motorola still hasn't "caught up" to the competition when it comes to cameras. The S4 takes far better pictures. If MOTOROLA is producing the Nexus 6 then that also gives me pause, despite the beefy specs.
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All the review sites say the stills are great with good lighting... how well do the stills handle "motion blur"?
Samsung Note 4 got heaps of praise all over the place for its camera with stills but nobody ever said "hey, all the pictures of your toddler will be blurs because the camera is terrible capturing motion with indoors low light conditions."
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You honestly can't get a better camera on a device. It is fantastic in all conditions. It is only good though if you use the stock lg ROM since its camera app really makes the pictures great. If you use a ROM like cyanogenmod then you can't use the stock camera app so your photos won't be as good as they could be.
The camera is the best you can get In a phone right now. Its better than the s6 by a little. The 6p is also badass but the g4 and 6p have different areas of 'bad-ass-ness' that they insividually excel in. If you get a g4 you will become spoiled and will not ever be able to use ****ty cameras ever again.
Simple specific question and I get two generic fan-boy responses. I'll ask again: how well does the camera handle capturing still pictures of motion in low light indoors conditions?
And to get to the point, please don't waste time with the fan-boy posts.
Show me what you got with low light indoors motion.
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Simple specific question and I get two generic fan-boy responses. I'll ask again: how well does the camera handle capturing still pictures of motion in low light indoors conditions?
And to get to the point, please don't waste time with the fan-boy posts.
Show me what you got with low light indoors motion.
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The absolute best camera on a phone is that found on the Nokia 808 and Lumia 1020. The camera on the G4 is probably the best of the Androids I have owned but it doesn't hold a candle to the aforementioned camera phones. In low light there is alot of noise (even with the OIS). If you would like a great low light camera or the best camera on a phone I would look up one of the earlier mentioned devices. The 1020 excels at low light (the 808 not as much due to the of OIS).