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Speaker + camera quality.

Own and love the Galaxy Nexus, I think 16gb is well more than enough storage for on-the-go music and app combination.
The two major issues I have with it however are:
1) The camera quality.
I find the image quality quite grainy after taking photos. The camera just doesn't cut it for me. However I'm hoping that the 8MP camera on the Nexus4 (I know megapixels isn't everything) will solve that issue.
***2) THE SPEAKER LOUDNESS***
I think of the old Christmas poem "Night Before Christmas"...
"'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even the Gnexus at max volume".
That'll be the deciding factor on if I'll be picking up the phone or not, in all honesty.
Love you XDA,
-Aero

Well its not release yet, but we can take a few clues.
Base on this review: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a24txcFBWyE
the LG Optimus G have very weak speaker, saying that when on its back, one might even miss a phone call. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same for the Nexus 4.
As for camera, I have no proof that the 8MP camera of this device is similar to one on the Optimus G for ATT, but maybe if it is, we can look at those sample shots posted online. I think the general consensus is its not that great and might have trouble under low lighting. Overall I think it will be at least better than the current 5MP which is enough for me.
Just wait for feedbacks from other buyers before making the purchase.
PS. I still laugh at the fact when the Galaxy Nexus was just released people claimed its 5MP camera is better than the SII camera, even with side by side pictures comparison.
I'm disappointed it won't support GLONASS, base on the specs from the PlayStore.

The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.

kotaro_14 said:
The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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f2.4
i really love Nexus 4 but One X camera is amazing
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Well, just a very very simple thought: they advertise with their new feature, that panorama thing .. that's one selling point.. so the camera quality MUST be good, right?
Oh man, but I just remember Apple's Maps service ... hmmm.

Here's hoping both are better on the Nexus 4 as they are both somewhat of a disappointment on my Galaxy Nexus for me.
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From Josh Topolsky's initial impressions, he stated that the camera performance was a big improvement, and that Google has specifically concentrated on low-light performance. I have high hopes that a Sony sensor, let alone a BSI sensor, leads to respectable if not admirable image quality. If the f/2.4 aperture is an indication, we could easily see this sensor beat the GS3 in terms of how much light it lets in, but it all comes down to how aggressive noise correction is, which is entirely software, and affects image sharpness the most.

While the camera is a big deal to me (a BIG deal), what I'm more worried about is the speaker/earpiece output. As everyone knows, the GNex speaker and earpiece aren't great (that's putting it mildly), so I'm really hoping this phone has great speaker/earpiece volume. Do I expect it to rival my SIII? No. But being able to actually use the phone as a PHONE in a crowded place and being able to hear would be nice.

According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high

Sony makes the camera for the legendary iPhones so I don't see why they would disappoint now.

Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920

shea-bird said:
According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high
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ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.

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ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.
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you got it reversed, Att model has the 8mp camera while the sprint version has the 13mp camera.

kotaro_14 said:
The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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Im sorry but how do you know that it has a Sony BSI Sensor ?
I mean that would be great as Sony makes the best sensors right now …
Thats pretty much one of my biggest selling points as i use the cameras a lot..

It was mentioned in the video done by The Verge.

Gayga
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Aerolith514 said:
Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920
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I dont expect the 920 to be great...the 900 was overhyped with the ziess lens and was garbage. the 920 will have GREAT low light photos- that much we know...as for regular performance, I think it will still be slightly below the top notch camera phones (S3, OneX, iphone, etc)
Praying the nexus 4 has a great camera...if so, I will snatch it up.

and what about capture speed ?
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The One Series camera's and the Lumia 920 have a lower aperture f2.0 which is better suited for low light conditions. Now I'm pleased with the HOX camera, this has to be on par at least for day shots as I rarely take that many low light shots.
Be interesting to know what BSI module it uses so we can make comparisons!

I hope the camera is good same as speakers..

Impression of Nexus 4 from someone who had a Xperia S

I had a Sony Xperia S (abbr. XS) before I bought a Nexus 4 (abbr. N4). And luckily I wasn't stuck in limbo lvl 3 for too long and got my phone on Monday morning.
Let's talk about the reported N4 issues here:
1. Buzz from earphone speaker
People reported the same for XS. And then we found out it's because of the noise-cancelling microphone. For my N4 I can't hear this mysterious buzz, and I believe my ears are much better than the average.
2. "Unreasonably" hot device
Definitely warmer than XS. But then XS is all plastic and N4 is mostly glass. Glass is a better heat conductor than plastic so this means N4 dissipates heat better than XS.
3. Poor battery performance
MUCH MUCH BETTER battery than XS. Now I can go through the day with 30~40% left. With XS, it would've been 10%.
4. poor touchscreen sensitivity
Touchscreen is definitely more sensitive than XS. And I feel it behaves differently from XS.
5. Feedback when plugged in.
Never know this so cannot comment.
Now my general impressions:
The build quality is definitely up from XS. I'm not saying XS has lousy quality but N4 feels more "substantially" in your hand. Two glass panels are slippery for sure. Took me sometime to adjust how to hold the N4. My device arrived in perfect condition: no scratched LCD, no cracked back, no cracked bezel.
Sound quality is a little bit worse than XS. Sony has an upper hand here because the Sony Walkman player is better than Google Music.
LCD screen is definitely not as good as XS. Colors look pale when compared to XS's LED-backlit LCD (343ppi). But it is still a VERY NICE LCD. I am NOT an AMOLED fan and NEVER WILL BE. So hold your comment.
On-screen buttons: mixed feeling. It is much more sensitive than XS hardware touch buttons but it takes away screen space. I prefer hardware touch buttons so I can have my resolution back.
I am not going to comment on Android 4.2 because it is VASTLY SUPERIOR than ICS.
Feel free to ask questions you need my clarification or if I missed something.
Great phone must buy!

Hi, I sold my Xperia S to get a Nexus 4 (still waiting for my order!). The one thing that bugged me about the XS was the poor viewing angles of the display, so how does the N4 compare? Do colours distort badly like they do on the XS? Thanks!

kebabmaker said:
Hi, I sold my Xperia S to get a Nexus 4 (still waiting for my order!). The one thing that bugged me about the XS was the poor viewing angles of the display, so how does the N4 compare? Do colours distort badly like they do on the XS? Thanks!
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Well, I believe that Nexus 4 better than Xperia S when viewing angles because it uses IPS panel

mpttrung said:
Well, I believe that Nexus 4 better than Xperia S when viewing angles because it uses IPS panel
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Color distortion is there, but it's subtle at slightly off angles then start to see blue or yellow tints depending on the angle you look from. Doesn't tint any where near as much as my galaxy s 2 did, or xperia play. Text is visible on white backgrounds at ANY angle it's great having the LCD fused with the glass, helps so much.

kebabmaker said:
Hi, I sold my Xperia S to get a Nexus 4 (still waiting for my order!). The one thing that bugged me about the XS was the poor viewing angles of the display, so how does the N4 compare? Do colours distort badly like they do on the XS? Thanks!
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Thanks for the question!
The viewing angle of Nexus 4 is definitely better than XS. But the readability under the sun is slightly worse than XS. Everything is a trade-off it seems.
Hope that helps!
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Could you comment on the camera performance in comparison to xs's?

cikomiko said:
Could you comment on the camera performance in comparison to xs's?
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Was about to comment on that.
Since both phones uses Sony sensor I don't see there's any major differences. The noise pattern is similar, the high ISO capability is similar, and the camera speed is similar. Xperia S produces some punchier color and contrast, Nexus 4 produces some more flatter image. Both has their pros and cons.
What's better with Nexus 4 is the HDR mode, which is lacking in Xperia S. Also, the focusing seems to be faster than Xperia S. Of course, if the color of Nexus 4 doesn't satisfy you, you can always use the stock image filter to enhance it.
One thing I missed the most about Xperia S is its physical camera button and quick launch mode. Nexus 4's Lockscreen camera widget is still way slower than the quick launch.
If you are into camera quality then Nexus 4 won't disappoint you.

richteralan said:
Was about to comment on that.
Since both phones uses Sony sensor I don't see there's any major differences. The noise pattern is similar, the high ISO capability is similar, and the camera speed is similar. Xperia S produces some punchier color and contrast, Nexus 4 produces some more flatter image. Both has their pros and cons.
What's better with Nexus 4 is the HDR mode, which is lacking in Xperia S. Also, the focusing seems to be faster than Xperia S. Of course, if the color of Nexus 4 doesn't satisfy you, you can always use the stock image filter to enhance it.
One thing I missed the most about Xperia S is its physical camera button and quick launch mode. Nexus 4's Lockscreen camera widget is still way slower than the quick launch.
If you are into camera quality then Nexus 4 won't disappoint you.
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I use to own an Sony lt28i (ION). Now I own the LG E960 (N4).
I found the IONS build quality to be much better than the N4, Sony Walkman kills Google Music, and Sony Media Apps are also very polished and work well. But the development was lacking for the ION ; mostly due to booloader being locked until recent.
The N4 has so much development already and tons more planned for the future. Most of the Sony apps can be flashed onto the N4.
Obviously Ion's 12 mp camera blows nexus 4's 8 mp camera away in clarity.
But did we forget about Nexus 4's Photosphere it is an amazing apk that really takes Sony amazing panorama sofware and basically turns it into a 360 panorama software.
I lost my Ion and got the nexus 4. There are times i miss my Ion but the nexus 4 has made me happy and is a suitable replacement.

AW: Impression of Nexus 4 from someone who had a Xperia S
For your sound complaint I'd suggest poweramp for playing music. I got pretty good sound with the equaliser

richteralan said:
Was about to comment on that.
Since both phones uses Sony sensor I don't see there's any major differences. The noise pattern is similar, the high ISO capability is similar, and the camera speed is similar. Xperia S produces some punchier color and contrast, Nexus 4 produces some more flatter image. Both has their pros and cons.
What's better with Nexus 4 is the HDR mode, which is lacking in Xperia S. Also, the focusing seems to be faster than Xperia S. Of course, if the color of Nexus 4 doesn't satisfy you, you can always use the stock image filter to enhance it.
One thing I missed the most about Xperia S is its physical camera button and quick launch mode. Nexus 4's Lockscreen camera widget is still way slower than the quick launch.
If you are into camera quality then Nexus 4 won't disappoint you.
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I have a Xperia S, Xperia TX and a Nexus 4 and the cameras on the Xperia's have a well known issue of slow focusing in low light. I would say the camera on the Nexus is better.
The screen on the Nexus is also better easily.

fredaroony said:
I have a Xperia S, Xperia TX and a Nexus 4 and the cameras on the Xperia's have a well known issue of slow focusing in low light. I would say the camera on the Nexus is better.
The screen on the Nexus is also better easily.
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N4's camera has focusing issues as well. And you also has to take into account that XS camera is 12mp, when down sized to 8mp the quality is indeed better than N4.
The screen of XS is definitely better, at least color calibration wise. But plagued with yellow spots.
Of course XS and any Sony phones cannot get the same level of Dev activities as Nexus devices, no matter how Sony supports AOSP.
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sirsmokey said:
I use to own an Sony lt28i (ION). Now I own the LG E960 (N4).
I found the IONS build quality to be much better than the N4, Sony Walkman kills Google Music, and Sony Media Apps are also very polished and work well. But the development was lacking for the ION ; mostly due to booloader being locked until recent.
The N4 has so much development already and tons more planned for the future. Most of the Sony apps can be flashed onto the N4.
Obviously Ion's 12 mp camera blows nexus 4's 8 mp camera away in clarity.
But did we forget about Nexus 4's Photosphere it is an amazing apk that really takes Sony amazing panorama sofware and basically turns it into a 360 panorama software.
I lost my Ion and got the nexus 4. There are times i miss my Ion but the nexus 4 has made me happy and is a suitable replacement.
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Gotta have something better than stock Android, right?
And I wouldn't exactly say Google music is that inferior than Sony Walkman player. The difference is small.
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XS was terrible
I had the worst smartphone experience of my life with Xperia S. The thing that most bothered me was the touch-sensitive (or should I say touch-insensitive) buttons. They were very irresponsive and I had to touch them several times or press hard on them every time. It was like sony has designed them like that to bother the users. And it got hot even when I was browsing the internet. The only good thing about it was the screen but even that matched with a mediocre battery was not a good idea.
My N4 is a bliss to use. I really can't find anything wrong with it.

The screen on my N4 blows both the XS's that live in this house out of the water, it's much better.
My XS screen was just as nice to use however I had removed the shatterproof film of mine and this made it much more sensitive.
I have to agree about the sound though, can't get my N4 to sound as good as my XS did and the equaliser on the N4 just doesn't work right, dare to go a little to high on one of the band's and it just keels over sounding as flat as a fart.

Mine worked great out of the box. Most of the issues stated above weren't present on my nexus 4.

I actually had problems too till my 3rd nexus. The first one had a bad screen and awful sound distortion. Then I got the second. Everything was perfect but when I tried to turn up the volume the rocker was like broken. Most unlikely thing ever. Then 3rd time was the charm.
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richteralan said:
Was about to comment on that.
Since both phones uses Sony sensor I don't see there's any major differences. The noise pattern is similar, the high ISO capability is similar, and the camera speed is similar. Xperia S produces some punchier color and contrast, Nexus 4 produces some more flatter image. Both has their pros and cons.
What's better with Nexus 4 is the HDR mode, which is lacking in Xperia S. Also, the focusing seems to be faster than Xperia S. Of course, if the color of Nexus 4 doesn't satisfy you, you can always use the stock image filter to enhance it.
One thing I missed the most about Xperia S is its physical camera button and quick launch mode. Nexus 4's Lockscreen camera widget is still way slower than the quick launch.
If you are into camera quality then Nexus 4 won't disappoint you.
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The new Google edition camera app . makes you be able to use the volume rocker as a camera button..
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The new Google edition camera app . makes you be able to use the volume rocker as a camera button..
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I have the new camera apk installed. Just tried it and yep the volume rocker works for the camera button! Thanks didn't know about it.
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[Q] Camera Update Questions

I've seen a few comparisons on the Moto X, pre and post update online. I had one for a few weeks pre-update (Verizon...), and the camera was really the main reason I ended up ditching it. So I have a couple of questions for anybody that has the update:
I've seen a few post-update comparisons to the likes of the HTC One, and it still has a blown out look at times... but I wanted to hear from actual owners of the device before making a judgment call, since most people don't walk around comparing with 2 or 3 other devices
Did the software update also improve the videos?
What about usability - I know it said it was going to speed up auto-focus, navigation, etc., but did it really? Or is it not really noticeable?
Flash performance - improved at all? Or still slow and very blown out?
Thanks!
edit: reading things like this is what's making me hesitate to jump back on the bandwagon just yet

It still has some blowout issues but not nearly as bad as before. That is just an issue with the rgbc sensor. That's the same reason Sony stopped using similar tech in their phones.
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Little bit disappointing that the camera is still not quite up to par with the iPhone or S4. Might wait to see how the Nexus 5 compares.
I don't need absolute perfect pictures (it is a phone after all) but blowing out white pictures is a noticeable problem.

It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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bpschoon said:
It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?

My camera actually has no issues at all. Light or dark since the update
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So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?
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No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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Good to hear. kind of conflicting reports but the positive ones seem more common.

It seems to me they adjusted the contrast and saturation more than anything else, mostly for the positive. I think the sensors or optics they used just aren't up to par, in general, compared to the likes of the 5, S4, etc. Has anybody noticed any pickup in overall speed, both in general, and with the shutter?
The other thing I've noticed is this - these phones touting larger pixels all tend to blow out whites and struggle with balance from time to time. The HTC One does it, the X did (and still does to a point it appears, but not as bad now?), and I've been trying out an iPhone 5S for a bit now, and even it does it as well - but the processor plus software really helps keep it in check 95% of the time.

HTC one... what could have been.

Love this phone, but the lack of a good camera killed it for me. Takes terrible pics. But on a higher note I got 4g in my neighborhood now! Yeah buddy
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I don't get it.. Am I missing something?

Get what?
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Get what?
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The point of this thread? The camera issue is old news

Ya, this seems like more of a FB post... but.. XDA isn't FB! Lol

booooooo!!!!!

Like you decided to make a thread about the camera when you could have posted the same thing in one of the open threads....

I, for one, love this camera. It takes pictures where no other phone can. The only smartphone camera that I would prefer over it is the new iPhone 5S camera, which was released half a year later.

gobaers said:
I, for one, love this camera. It takes pictures where no other phone can. The only smartphone camera that I would prefer over it is the new iPhone 5S camera, which was released half a year later.
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I think they are both crap I cant wait till we get something awesome like the nokia built into that windows phone i want a 41 mp camera or whatever insane number it is... Thats something i cant wait to see for androids...

Pneuma1985 said:
I think they are both crap I cant wait till we get something awesome like the nokia built into that windows phone i want a 41 mp camera or whatever insane number it is... Thats something i cant wait to see for androids...
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Don't know if we're going to see another PureView-esque camera for a while. I just don't think the profit margins or demand are out there to justify anything beyond the incremental bumps in MP count we've been seeing 4 to 5, 5, to 8, 8 to 13, etc.). Might be nice, but to be honest I'd rather see improvements in battery tech right now.
That being said, point of thread is a little confusing.

Rirere said:
Don't know if we're going to see another PureView-esque camera for a while. I just don't think the profit margins or demand are out there to justify anything beyond the incremental bumps in MP count we've been seeing 4 to 5, 5, to 8, 8 to 13, etc.). Might be nice, but to be honest I'd rather see improvements in battery tech right now.
That being said, point of thread is a little confusing.
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Well battery tech has come quite a long way in the past 5 years... This being a clear example of that http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153614-new-lithium-ion-battery-design-thats-2000-times-more-powerful-recharges-1000-times-faster So batteries have come a long way and continue to get advancements about every 2 years or so. But yeah I'd like to see all the beast tech put into one phone.

Providing a truly great camera would increase the price of the device by too high a margin. Why do you think the N5 has the same camera as the 4? To keep costs down. When you get right to it, everybody wants everything in one device, but don't want to pay a grand for it. So, something has to give. The N5 has a better processor, screen, connectivity, and gorilla glass. They couldn't upgrade the camera too, without losing the 399 pricepoint. So......I haven't seen a device yet that doesn't have umpteen threads about the camera being less than marketed. Whattayagonnado

Well sorry that I created so much drama opening this thread. Just the camera is so disappointing. Sorry had to vent.
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What could have been.... Same focus on camera but with 8 ultra pixel instead (or whatever it's called) removable battery so extended batteries could be made and used, micro sd slot, dedicated camera button (don't know why that is going away).
Subwoofer, 5.1 surround, slide out gamepad, stylus that doubles as a microphone so I could do karaoke games my phone,.... Lol sorry couldn't resist but the above paragraph is what I'm hoping they do next or at least Samsung adds stereo speakers to their next phone hopefully the s5
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I love this camera.
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The camera sucks for people with the purple-tint issue... I've seen examples - even those with a mild hardware defect have foggy-looking pics and may not exactly see much purple tint in them. If your pictures suck, prove it so we can determine it isn't defective and not just the photographer.
I'm a photographer - not making my living with it, but certainly more knowledgeable and skilled than the average person. This camera is great. It can be a little quirky and it takes a little getting used to, but it's far better than any mobile camera I've used. The shallow depth of field is a nice thing to have for macros or some "artsy" pics. The clarity is great, but yes, snapping into light greatly diminishes the dynamic range - this is true for any camera but I'll agree this is worse off on this one. The gains in low-light performance are far better than most other mobile cameras and as long as you didn't get stuck with a defective unit, this phone rocks.
In regards to the 41 pureview camera request... wtf are you thinking? The ONLY benefit this gives is superior digital zoom/cropping possibilities. adding more pixels does nothing more than give you room to crop or enlarge. For perspective, 3MP is what is needed for 4x6 prints without any cropping. This means the 4 MP camera is plenty to print from, although not much for enlargements. I HAVE printed 8x10s from the HTC One and they've looked great. Pixels and image quality are unrelated, despite what years of digital camera marketing teams want you to believe.

I think the One's camera makes a really great companion to a more proper camera like a DSLR. When I went to New Zealand recently the two cameras played off of each other quite well. The DSLR for zoomed shots that I had time to compose and the One for quick snaps where a really wide angle and speed was best. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have the purple tint issue, and even if I did it's really easy to correct, I go in and tweak white balance and colors on most of my pics anyway.

BonkyMoon said:
I think the One's camera makes a really great companion to a more proper camera like a DSLR. When I went to New Zealand recently the two cameras played off of each other quite well. The DSLR for zoomed shots that I had time to compose and the One for quick snaps where a really wide angle and speed was best. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't have the purple tint issue, and even if I did it's really easy to correct, I go in and tweak white balance and colors on most of my pics anyway.
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Well said, however I don't think you fully understand the purple tint issue. White balancing isn't correcting the problem at all. It appears to fade in from the edges and cover portions of the image like a fog. Others have it randomly scattered in weird patterns. White balancing would worsen the portions of the image that aren't affected, if it does anything at all. I'm convinced it's a hardware problem after watching a YouTube video of a One owner showing the issue on his torn apart HTC One. When he put his finger behind the camera heatsink to help dissipate the heat, the purple tint went away. When he let go of it and let it get warm again, the issue worsened. Fortunately, I don't have the issue. But others have shown how this is a serious problem and white balancing likely won't do any good to fix it.

This is a galaxy s4 camera vs HtcOne camera I can't complain at all. These are the One
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Pixel Camera to Note 8 Camera Thoughts

If you owned a Pixel or Pixel XL previously and now have the Note 8, what are your thoughts on the camera? I adore the camera on the Pixel because without tweaking anything, I know I can get a fantastic picture anytime. No shutter lag, good color, little blur. How's this compare? Anyone who has kids especially, because those moving targets are tricky but important to me!

I've seen countless of comparisons and here is my conclusion:
Daylight - Pixel wins due to better dynamic range
Room light - Somewhat of a tie. Pixel has better dynamic range but can introduce some noise and blurriness due to lack of OIS and high ISO.
Lowlight - Note8 wins here with much less blur, and noise.
Camera app - Note8 wins easily. Pro mode.
Video - Note8 overall wins this category. Better details in 4K mode, and better stabilization in 1440p/1080p mode.
Audio - Easily the Note8/S8. Pixel has a really ****ty mic and Samsung devices often have one of the best mics even better than LG and HTC's.

One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?

jal3223 said:
Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?
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I don't care had to say it.
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Coming from someone who had the pixel, I prefer the note 8 camera better. I think it has to do with the over saturation Samsung does with their picture. They pop and things stand out big time. I know a lot of people don't like this, as its not a true depiction of the subject you are taking a picture of

Has anyone tried loading the Google camera apk with hdr auto that was floating around XDA?

jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Random, but okay. I put cases in my phones so I don't care what the back looks like. It's easily the best phone I've ever owned so I don't care about something that is silly to me, like looks. It's a phone. Rarely does anyone care what a phone looks like (except maybe the HTC U11).