The Team Union ROM's odexed version is very smooth. eybee had also linked in that ROM's thread an article where it explained why odexed ROMs are smoother that deodexed ROMs. Could more devs please consider odexed versions of their ROMs? Thanks.
4.1.2 JB LSZ Union ROM v5, KSO Modem, speedmod K-5 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)
There is no need for it because odexed Roms aren't faster than deodexed Roms when using them. The difference is only relevant when booting.
The only reason for deodexed Rom is the possibility to make changes more easy. By the way zipaligning all apk in Custom Roms is an additional optimization in deodexed Roms.
I quote only a part of one of many, many articles explaining the mechanism and the reason for the "first boot acceleration".
With deodexed ROMs, only the first ever boot after clearing Dalvik cache is slower, and all subsequent ones will be the same as any odexed ROM. This is owing to the fact that during the first boot, all cache information is written to the virtual machine anyway, and hence, it will behave as any other firmware (until you clear the Dalvik cache once again).
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arent odexed roms losing their true identity with the inclusion of more and more features/ mods that were intially designed for the deodexed rom ?
ThaiDai said:
There is no need for it because odexed Roms aren't faster than deodexed Roms when using them. The difference is only relevant when booting.
The only reason for deodexed Rom is the possibility to make changes more easy. By the way zipaligning all apk in Custom Roms is an additional optimization in deodexed Roms.
I quote only a part of one of many, many articles explaining the mechanism and the reason for the "first boot acceleration".
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it's relevant when booting, but you can also experience difference when using same ROM in odexed and deodexed - call it placebo or whatever you want, for me it is noticable
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rraaka said:
arent odexed roms losing their true identity with the inclusion of more and more features/ mods that were intially designed for the deodexed rom ?
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why?
eybee1970 said:
it's relevant when booting, but you can also experience difference when using same ROM in odexed and deodexed - call it placebo or whatever you want, for me it is noticable
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Noticeable isn't a recognized method of measuring. It's human. So, yes it's a placebo until someone explains the mechanism why odexed apks and Roms should be faster.
And again: you'll find many posts, blogs etc. from different people explaining this and stating the above as result. Relevant when booting, after this no performance impact.
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it's relevant when booting, but you can also experience difference when using same ROM in odexed and deodexed - call it placebo or whatever you want, for me it is noticable
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I don't think it's just a placebo effect; it's certainly apparent in the experience when using an odexed ROM, even after the first boot, of course assuming that all odexed ROMs will be faster due to the technical reasons outlined in the article to which you linked.
If it's not too much of an effort, it would be great if all devs offered an odexed version of their ROMs.
4.1.2 JB LSZ Union ROM v5, KSO Modem, speedmod K-5 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)
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Noticeable isn't a recognized method of measuring. It's human. So, yes it's a placebo until someone explains the mechanism why odexed apks and Roms should be faster.
And again: you'll find many posts, blogs etc. from different people explaining this and stating the above as result. Relevant when booting, after this no performance impact.
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I know and I read them all (ok, most of them)...anyway, everyone can decide what he wants to run or not, regardless of any scientific explanation why or if there is any measurable impact on perfomance or not
eybee1970 said:
I know and I read them all (ok, most of them)...anyway, everyone can decide what he wants to run or not, regardless of any scientific explanation why or if there is any measurable impact on perfomance or not
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Of course, this is the freedom here each member has.
Dreams have a longer life then facts.
I seem to think that odexed roms are faster call it placebo or whatever you like. I was using eybees lsc rom which was deodexed and now i am on the latest indian firmware which is odexed and it feels snapier. No disrespect to eybee intended i think your mods and roms are great. Maybe its because this is a newer firmware maybe they changed a few things.
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Of course, this is the freedom here each member has.
Dreams have a longer life then facts.
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Amen
Related
About
Most of you should know about my BlazingDragon ROM that was based on MCR. This ROM, BlazingDragon2x, is a Gingerbread version that is based on CM7. Please note that this is an early release and will have alot of bugs. This can be considered an Alpha build. If you want a stable ROM, please use my BlazingDragon ROM that's based on MCR.
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Features
- Based on CM7
- Gingerbread 2.3.4
- Custom Boot Animation
- CyanogenMod Settings
- ADW Launcher
- ROM Manager
- Theme Chooser
- Torch
- And many more!
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Instructions
1. Ensure your phone is rooted and have CWM installed.
2. Download the ROM and GApps and place it on your EXTERNAL SDCARD
3. Boot into recovery by holding [Power] + [Volume Down] buttons until you boot into recovery.
4. Navigate using the volume buttons and select using the power button.
5. Select "Wipe/Factory Reset" if coming from another ROM. (Not needed for previous version of BlazingDragon2x ROM)
6. Navigate to the external SD card and select your ROM.
7. Wait for it to finish flashing and flash the GApps after that.
8. Reboot from CWM.
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Changelog
v0.1 - Initial Release
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Download
Current Alpha Version - v0.1
RapidShare
HotFile
FileServe
MegaUpload
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GApps
http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/
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Credits
LG - For Optimus 2x
CM Team - For their great work in CM
katun79 - For offering a mirror
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allright that's fast
the cm7 have so many bugs!
can you fix it?
edward0504 said:
the cm7 have so many bugs!
can you fix it?
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If you are worried about bugs, you can always use my BlazingDragon v1.3b ROM.
what a bug in this rom?
Navlem do you have any screenshot?
Thank's
mohicanrat said:
what a bug in this rom?
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Yeah is there a list of known bugs????
Tried the CM7 but then moved back to Fr13 Fear.
Wanting a Gingerbread Rom but to many bugs on CM7
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Also Screens and Quadrant Score
nice thanks
What exactly is different from CM7?
jastonas said:
What exactly is different from CM7?
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Just that...
- ADW Launcher
- ROM Manager
- Theme Chooser
- Torch
including all CM7 bugs.
athanaso77 said:
Just that...
- ADW Launcher
- ROM Manager
- Theme Chooser
- Torch
including all CM7 bugs.
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those are included in cm...
i dont see the point of this rom...
I'm sorry but this rom is completely pointless, right now it is identical to the cm nightly and only creates fragmentation, and even when this rom changes it will probably just be some apk's added or removed, and that in my opinion is pointless, because it only creates confusion.
In addition since this is based on a nightly build unless the "developer" (and i put that in quotes for a reason) of this rom updates it every single day its going to be out of date compared to the actual nightly cm build.
and yes I realize that I probably come off as rude in this post, but It always annoys me when people takes a rom, makes a couple of small changes and then post it as their own rom, when in reality they just took a rom that someone worked hard on and just made a small change to it.
I fully agree with you.
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and yes I realize that I probably come off as rude in this post, but It always annoys me when people takes a rom, makes a couple of small changes and then post it as their own rom, when in reality they just took a rom that someone worked hard on and just made a small change to it.
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make sense.
I'm sorry but the above comments are completely out of context and pointless...
You're missing the point of free custom roms here, navlem has posted an early release rom which 'in time' will be an alternate to stock CM Gingerbread with tweaks and additions for the LG Optimus 2X phone specifically... he is a good modder and i have no doubt he will bring us a good rom.
This is as he stated in the first post, an 'Alpha' which means he is working on it to improve and change it.
NEVER put down a modder for any works he submits to us for FREE, if u don't like the works, do not use it and move on, simple.
-SMC
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I'm sorry but the above comments are completely out of context and pointless...
You're missing the point of free custom roms here, navlem has posted an early release rom which 'in time' will be an alternate to stock CM Gingerbread with tweaks and additions for the LG Optimus 2X phone specifically... he is a good modder and i have no doubt he will bring us a good rom.
This is as he stated in the first post, an 'Alpha' which means he is working on it to improve and change it.
NEVER put down a modder for any works he submits to us for FREE, if u don't like the works, do not use it and move on, simple.
-SMC
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I'm not missing the point, I fully realize what the point of custom roms are, however this is not a custom rom, this is the first cm nighly rom rebranded, that is all that this rom is currently, and that is pointless, and I do realize that navlem will probably change a couple of small things later that will make this rom a little bit different from the official cm. but if everyone decided to uploade "custom" roms that only differed slightly from the rom they are based on then that creates fragmentation and confusion. How would you feel if you had worked weeks to make a truly custom rom, and then as soon as you had shared it with the world, somebody decided to add one application to it and then re-uploaded it as their own rom? you would probably be annoyed right?
And that is what navlem just did(well as far as I know he didn't even add an app)
Don't get me wrong I am in no way discouraging people from trying to make positive changes to a rom, but those changes has to be more than simply changing a couple of apps.
well, regardless of all of that, the fact that this rom, right now, is pointless, is something not even you can deny, if navlem really wanted to release a so called "custom" rom then he should at the very least changed it in some way.
And trust me I don't have anything against navlem, but when someone simply takes a rom and rebrands it without changing anything then I get annoyed so please forgive me for acting like a jerk on this particular discussion. I'm usually a pretty nice person.
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I'm sorry but this rom is completely pointless, right now it is identical to the cm nightly and only creates fragmentation, and even when this rom changes it will probably just be some apk's added or removed, and that in my opinion is pointless, because it only creates confusion.
In addition since this is based on a nightly build unless the "developer" (and i put that in quotes for a reason) of this rom updates it every single day its going to be out of date compared to the actual nightly cm build.
and yes I realize that I probably come off as rude in this post, but It always annoys me when people takes a rom, makes a couple of small changes and then post it as their own rom, when in reality they just took a rom that someone worked hard on and just made a small change to it.
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I understand what you mean.
There are subtle changes made in this ROM but the aim of this first alpha build is to let people test out and give me feedbacks and ideas how to go about improving this rom. This v0.1 is just a first step to open up to the people out here who have ORD and interact with them to see what they really like in a ROM.
That's how it happened for BlazingDragon ROM in my other thread. I received PMs stating that they wants to try my latest version to test and they keep giving me feedbacks and ideas for future updates. That's how I liked it to be.
True enough, v0.1 of the BlazingDragon2x ROM did not make alot of changes to shift away from the shadows of CM. But slowly it will.
I hope not to cause any controversy or start any wars of any kind. If more people are against me creating another ROM on CM7 nightly. I'll just back down, close this thread, and concentrate on my previous ROM.
Thanks for being honest
navlem said:
I understand what you mean.
There are subtle changes made in this ROM but the aim of this first alpha build is to let people test out and give me feedbacks and ideas how to go about improving this rom. This v0.1 is just a first step to open up to the people out here who have ORD and interact with them to see what they really like in a ROM.
That's how it happened for BlazingDragon ROM in my other thread. I received PMs stating that they wants to try my latest version to test and they keep giving me feedbacks and ideas for future updates. That's how I liked it to be.
True enough, v0.1 of the BlazingDragon2x ROM did not make alot of changes to shift away from the shadows of CM. But slowly it will.
I hope not to cause any controversy or start any wars of any kind. If more people are against me creating another ROM on CM7 nightly. I'll just back down, close this thread, and concentrate on my previous ROM.
Thanks for being honest
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gosh darn it, how am I supposed to criticize you when you act so nice to me , well I guess I can see what you mean, and I do respect you for wanting to help the community, the main reason for me being annoyed is the fact that you released this rom without changing anything (as far as I know) instead of waiting for a while and then release a rom that was actually different from cm, In addition its never recommended to base your rom off a unstable rom, so In my opinion you should have waited until a stable version of cm7 was available, and again I don't have anything against people like you, the only problem is that there are usually a lot of people like you in most of these forums, and if everyone of you decided to create their own rom then that would create a mess of almost identical roms, which would hurt the community, and thats what Is why I was a little annoyed at you creating this rom. I simply want to prevent this forum from being overrun by roms, and I hope that you can respect my side of this argument, but In hindsight I kinda overreacted and came off as kind of a jerk, so sorry for acting so mean to you, nothing personal
navlem, I do appreciate your good work and your willingness to share; however I also share the sentiments expressed by mikael120.
I would also suggest that if a Rom is heavily based on someone's work, then the thread title/header should carry a notation bearing the original Rom's codename. For example, both FearKill and TK roms make reference to Modaco and/or Fr12 in their thread titles/headers. This gives due credit to the original developer, and also makes it easier for guys like us to quickly identify the source of the Rom.
athanaso77 said:
Just that...
- ADW Launcher
- ROM Manager
- Theme Chooser
- Torch
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all these are already included in CM7...
Hallo flashers, i wanted to share this kl3 rom with you, i wanted the my sam rom but its whas to lite for me, so i tweaked the rom of eybee1970 with my sam tweakes and Darky build.prop tweakes. So first of all thanks for sharing there work.
No pictures because its stocked theme.
I added Abyss 2.3 kernel because i think that is the most stable one. Also thanks to kernel dell'AbyssNote angelom for his work.
installation do a full wipe and flash with cwm.
http://uploading.com/files/b3e4aac9/XXKL3_Deodexed_tweakedmax.zip/
mirror
http://www.multiupload.com/VKLP16WQN7
People with market problems download the attached market apk and in post 76, read there the instructions and many thanks to z3us for posting this thanks to NGP for the fix.
Added XXKL7 Deodexed rom, also tweaked and modifide build.prop.
Latest market 3.4.4 in XXKL7
rom
http://www.multiupload.com/E64MM87VY4
thx alot man will be trying your rom for sure
KL3 is good basic
I am using it now for 2 days and not one problem. You can always flash abyss 2.5. But think 2.3 is for me the best. still 30% to go.
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I am using it now for 2 days and not one problem. You can always flash abyss 2.5. But think 2.3 is for me the best. still 30% to go.
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but everything OFF ?
gmail ?
wifi ?
3g ?
What is the difference between this and stock?
Where is the development?
Download link?
Everything works for me, differents is thats is tweaked and different build.prop, mix my sam and darky rom. The development is only added the tweakes.
I found out that almost every custom rom has a bug and the performance not better than a tweaked stock rom. Nothing beats a tweaked stock rom. Its so stable and smooth. kl3 is realy smoother than kka.
This is a full rom and not lite because i think if you want it lite than you can remove the apps you want. Is better than to flash a lite rom and you have to find and ad apps. So lite roms i do not understand, lite is not faster. Just running apps are making your rom slow.
..so link?
robertberma said:
Everything works for me, differents is thats is tweaked and different build.prop, mix my sam and darky rom. The development is only added the tweakes.
I found out that almost every custom rom has a bug and the performance not better than a tweaked stock rom. Nothing beats a tweaked stock rom. Its so stable and smooth. kl3 is realy smoother than kka.
This is a full rom and not lite because i think if you want it lite than you can remove the apps you want. Is better than to flash a lite rom and you have to find and ad apps. So lite roms i do not understand, lite is not faster. Just running apps are making your rom slow.
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Light rom for me is that one havent the useless apps which running in backround all the time draining the battery or using lot of RAM (for example samsung apps) and normal users dont know delete/frozen them.
So lite rom isnt bad for my opinion but u must upload the missing apps too...
robertberma said:
Everything works for me, differents is thats is tweaked and different build.prop, mix my sam and darky rom. The development is only added the tweakes.
I found out that almost every custom rom has a bug and the performance not better than a tweaked stock rom. Nothing beats a tweaked stock rom. Its so stable and smooth. kl3 is realy smoother than kka.
This is a full rom and not lite because i think if you want it lite than you can remove the apps you want. Is better than to flash a lite rom and you have to find and ad apps. So lite roms i do not understand, lite is not faster. Just running apps are making your rom slow.
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So...
Basically, what you are saying is that you have taken a ROM, then taken a kernel, then taken a build.prop and packaged them.
WOW. You must be an Android God!
You have not created one single thing of your own. There is nothing in this ROM that is original to you.
No development at all.
That is sad. Very sad.
eliashadow said:
Light rom for me is that one havent the useless apps which running in backround all the time draining the battery or using lot of RAM (for example samsung apps) and normal users dont know delete/frozen them.
So lite rom isnt bad for my opinion but u must upload the missing apps too...
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Its a full rom with all the apps, antek app manager app is a good freezer.
Rom is comming, mega upload let me down, now using a different file uploader. sorry
you tube
NOTE. If you go to market for downloading new youtube it will fail. First go to system app and delete youtube. Reboot and now you can download newer youtube. This happend to me. And it worked.
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NOTE. If you go to market for downloading new youtube it will fail. First go to system app and delete youtube. Reboot and now you can download newer youtube. This happend to me. And it worked.
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You are a 'Dev' right? You have been using this for two days, or so you said?
Why didn't you fix it? Why was it even broken in the first place?
Ask a Mod to close this, before you get embarrassed.
robertberma said:
Hallo flashers, i wanted to share this kl3 rom with you, i wanted the my sam rom but its whas to lite for me, so i tweaked the rom of eybee1970 with my sam tweakes and Darky build.prop tweakes. So first of all thanks for sharing there work.
No pictures because its stocked theme.
I added Abyss 2.3 kernel because i think that is the most stable one. Also thanks to Chris X for his work.
installation do a full wipe and flash with cwm.
reuploading sorry
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Abyss kernel is a created da angelom(italian dev)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19696425&postcount=12
nobnut said:
You are a 'Dev' right? You have been using this for two days, or so you said?
Why didn't you fix it? Why was it even broken in the first place?
Ask a Mod to close this, before you get embarrassed.
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Waw man! Why are so severe with him? You are strangling him like a wounded bird ....that s not nice of you, Nobody is born developer ...and don't destroy goodwill members. Thanks
I agree..take it easy guys and go flashing.
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nobnut said:
You are a 'Dev' right? You have been using this for two days, or so you said?
Why didn't you fix it? Why was it even broken in the first place?
Ask a Mod to close this, before you get embarrassed.
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??? What do i have to fix, my fix is delete youtube from system folder and than download from market. Ooo you are not smart do that. System?? App??? What the hell are they talking about, you think.
And i am not a dev , i am just as dumb as you.
+1 for your last reply will test this rom sound interesting cheers
which rom is better for the 9001 sgs+ in terms of the following parameters
1. stability
2. performance
3. battery life
4. functionallity
5. appearance
can someone (or more) provide some feedback on the above mattter as i am trying to flash a rom for my phone , and all i can see is different versions where all seem ok . but is there anyway tha we can have some feedback from actual users.
which one to flash and why ?
I apologize to any possible disregard to forum rules.
manollis said:
but is there anyway tha we can have some feedback from actual users.
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Users comment about the roms in the according threads.
The only thing you can do is read-read-read
manollis said:
I apologize to any possible disregard to forum rules.
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Indeed, this is a development subforum.
broodROM
Cranium
Cryberts ROM
ANDROIDS REVOLUTION
I9001XXKPG 2.3.5 Gingerbread Deodex by Astap for MultiDownloader
CyMod ROM
UCM GingerBread Rom
these are the roms available.
afaik you can configure each one of them with not much effort so that it has the functions of another of the roms by changing kernel or adding or deleting tweaks. if there was a rom which would be "better" there wouldn't be any other roms.
i think they're pretty much the same.
only to broodROM alone the total posts are 2338 so far
where to start and what to read ??
anyway thank you for your replies anyhow.
manollis said:
only to broodROM alone the total posts are 2338 so far
where to start and what to read ??
anyway thank you for your replies anyhow.
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Start at the beginning and read all.
i dont want to sound rude or "cleverish"
but should this development reach somewhere or it should be develpment for the sake of developing ??? i am a bit confused ??
it shouldnt reach to a rom that it should be stable (or any other criteria that one looks for ??)
i am just wondering ?
have people in programming lost the connection to the real purpose of the items in question , which is to communicate. ?
i dont know guys i am just wondering ??
the big picture is:
everyone develops what he wants to but simultaneously everyone looks at what other developers do and adopt their features or mods for themselves to have a good rom in the end. thats why i think the roms are all kind of the same. you can use a cranium kernel for brood rom and (in some cases) use the broodrom configurator for cranium rom or use thunderbolt for any of our roms. i don't think this is bad.
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the big picture is:
everyone develops what he wants to but simultaneously everyone looks at what other developers do and adopt their features or mods for themselves to have a good rom in the end. thats why i think the roms are all kind of the same. you can use a cranium kernel for brood rom and (in some cases) use the broodrom configurator for cranium rom or use thunderbolt for any of our roms. i don't think this is bad.
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Yeh that's true, since we only have Samsung ROMS as base ROMS we don't have much choice , also for the configurator, it was actually built for XXKPS but it seems KPG (not sure), KPS, KPU and QK1 use the "same" framework, ZSKP6/7 is other tho
I suggest you try broodROM RC 3 with FeaCore kernel and thunder bolt.It's smoother than CraniumROM (tried) and my battery goes up to two and a half days on broodROM.Haven't tried it on Cranium.Didn't like it from the beginning.
There are a bunch of custom Sense-based ROMs out there but I'm not sure what the differences are between them. Could someone explain the differences between them?
tmaspoopdek said:
There are a bunch of custom Sense-based ROMs out there but I'm not sure what the differences are between them. Could someone explain the differences between them?
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They are all optimised to be faster than stock, with things like zipaligning and SQL tweaks.
TrickDroid has a lot of customizations tweaks for it, but is running an older version of 4.2.2, while ARHD has less tweaks but is smoother and running the very latest 4.2.2 (2.17.401.1)
Renovate gets OTA updates afaik, which could be a positive for you. That is heavily themed
MacHackz said:
They are all optimised to be faster than stock, with things like zipaligning and SQL tweaks.
TrickDroid has a lot of customizations tweaks for it, but is running an older version of 4.2.2, while ARHD has less tweaks but is smoother and running the very latest 4.2.2 (2.17.401.1)
Renovate gets OTA updates afaik, which could be a positive for you. That is heavily themed
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everything is a question of personal taste
to correct you, renovate has an optional complete theme but you can choose a complete stock look while flashing .
jonas2295 said:
everything is a question of personal taste
to correct you, renovate has an optional complete theme but you can choose a complete stock look while flashing .
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Ah okay, thanks I didn't list it as a bad thing
MacHackz said:
Ah okay, thanks I didn't list it as a bad thing
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no worries
Is there any other way to flash mods in Xperis SP without deodexing??
i have read it some where, it is also less stable than odexed rom. Is it??
My rom is deodexed & i have not noticed any lags or issues.
me too.. deodexed today and no such lags experienced..i think it's pretty safe :good:
Deodexing only affects the time it takes to boot for the first time
well thanks.:good: i think i am gonna deodex too.:fingers-crossed:
Can some one guide me on deodexing process. I am not familiar with it.
Deodex does reduce the performance, but the SP is fast enough to negate it.
"As your flesh bears the sigil....your name is that....of a recusant."
BOOTCLASSPATH error while deodexing
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My rom is deodexed & i have not noticed any lags or issues.
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dhiman33 said:
me too.. deodexed today and no such lags experienced..i think it's pretty safe :good:
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How did you guyz deodexed your ROM? I am constantly getting some BOOTCLASSPATH error:crying:
I've rooted and removed bloatware rest is all still stock nothing different
look here in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372934
Just replied on that thread there for you. Don't delete the file. You'll be fine.
(SOLVED!!!! Thanks)))
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