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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT
Any idea whether it would be possible to run this version of Windows 8 RT on the TP?
They say this is an ARM-based release, so If you could get ahold of a legit copy- you should technically be able to port it over to the TP.
It's all over bro, locked bootloader, blah blah blah
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What about all the driver stuff? Its not that easy as just to get some Windows from anywhere and flash it on the Tablet.
drivers are probably not such a big issue. there is a creative method windows is using for driver implementation. plus about 6-ish months ago, i saw a demo of windows for arm running on hardware nearly identical to what touchpad has. so i think if not for it being locked, it would technically be possible.
here is the link to where i read it http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon go down to qualcom, i think those specs are pretty much in line with what a touchpad has
here is some info about how they are handling drivers. scroll down to driver section and look for "class drivers" http://www.anandtech.com/show/5527/microsoft-provides-windows-on-arm-details
unless i'm mistaken, and i could very well be, seems like the driver implementation is going to be very flexible in what will be supported.
I hope windows 8 come to touchpad
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if it ever does, it wont be officially and i doubt someone would be posted on this forum how to install it
k1l said:
What about all the driver stuff? Its not that easy as just to get some Windows from anywhere and flash it on the Tablet.
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It depends how strict the ARM version is on drivers. If you think about it the x86 edition will install and boot with hardly any drivers required but I think this is due to a large library of included generic drivers. You can also instal drivers in Windows after you boot into it pretty easily.
The restrictions on doing this are going to be legal concerns since Windows RT will not be sold so files will likely not be allowed here. It also depends on if this is even possible to do since there will be no disc/ISO image out there and it depends how similar RT is to its x86 counterpart. They are both NT so I'm thinking that they may operate similarly, except RT won't have all the legacy system files that x86/64 has.
if you see the trouble the devs from cyanogenmod or the other linux ports are running into with the drivers, i dont think there will ever be a working windows port here.
The windows 8 RT version is made for tablets running a arm processor. So It is comming. I wonder how Windows 8 Proffessional response, when I jack a windows Phone 7 into my usb port Wonder If I still need those drivers wich is 2,3 gig or so
I have the Proffessional version of 8 wich is fully activated by Microsoft hehe, suckersszzz
Fabian1985 said:
I have the Proffessional version of 8 wich is fully activated by Microsoft hehe, suckersszzz
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And where are the information? Its no problem to obtain W8Pro and get this activated!?
Im still waiting for the guys who said it would be that easy to show some proof
We won't get Windows RT. Microsoft will not be releasing an iso with the files. It will be only given to OEMs.
This would be simply amazing.
I want this
Any (positive) updates?
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Any (positive) updates?
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RT will only be on officially approved devices by microsoft. so you realize that it would involve using pirated software and even if someone could figure out how to get past the security measures it would never be posted here?
x000x said:
RT will only be on officially approved devices by microsoft. so you realize that it would involve using pirated software and even if someone could figure out how to get past the security measures it would never be posted here?
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Hmph, and what about WP7 for HD2? Was it posted on XDA?
By the way, Microsoft made a huge mistake by locking W8 RT so tight, it would have bigger chances of adoption if devs were able to legally port the OS to other devices.
i dont know about what was or was not allowed with wp7 so i cant comment on that. but getting rt on other non-sanctioned devices will take some hacking and distribution of their software... i'm thinking thats too close to piracy. i'm no mod but i dont see how they would allow that kind of information on here.
but i agree with you, they should have been more open with the devices. maybe down the road microsoft will allow it, but who knows.
Windows 8 on the Touched?!
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I can't quite figure out why people want this?!?
What is Windows RT going to give you that android and/or webos doesn't?
If the phone is Intel based, is it possible to run Windows on it - even if its a cut down version?
Windows desktop? Don't think so. Wouldn't scale right on the 4:3" screen.
Windows Phone? Maybe. But it would take a lot of time, time which I think should be invested into Android ROM baking and stuff.
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agree.
If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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I think Intel have changed quite a lot within the x86 based architecture to be running fan-less and at that level of battery consumption.
Porting a x86 PC OS would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack and that's just getting it booting.
As for windows phone it has more chance of getting ported to any other android phone as it runs on ARM.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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Robbilie said:
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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As in the stock bootloader won't let you boot from whatever you need to boot from? I figured with an unlocked bootloader, there wouldn't be any issues on that front.
then tell me how to make it boot from my sd card xD
Oh, I have no idea. I just thought those problems would be over. I guess the bootloader just doesn't support that function.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
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That phone is of no help since it uses wrong chip. It uses the Intel atom z530 made in 2008 long before Intel remodeled them for mobiles.
RAZR I uses a atom (soc) completely different.
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
As for booting from sdcard if it doesn't support it then there's nothing we can do to the bootloader to get that to work.
We could boot to nand then mount sdcard partition partitions other phones have ran android from sdcard.
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As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
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I'd be more than happy to help sponsor some development to have the RAZR i running Windows 8 Pro not Windows 8 phone.
I was quote about $2000 for a ITG xpPhone 2 a while ago, with the RAZR i being about $500 unlocked with a newer chipset and a thinner device, it would be really nice to have instead. I have asked for another quote for the ITG xpPhone 2 to see if the price has come down at all.
I'd didn't buy it yet as I thought with Windows 8 being released, there might be a bit more interest in getting it to run on Intel Medfield phones.
I really want a Windows 8 Pro device that I can have in my pocket.
Win 3.1 through aDosBox ?
Another way could be to use aDosBox ?
As for the Asus transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079332
Does the Razri version remove the x86 emulation layer ?
http://www.freeware4android.net/motorola-razr-i-xt890-device-2815/adosbox-get-24103.html
It should provide a faster version than the current ARM-based Android version.
We were talking about the real Windows 8/Windows Phone 8, not 3.1 through emulation.
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
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Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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Actually I'm not specifically interested in the Razr i, just wanted to know if it was possible to run desktop windows in x86 phones, my real target is the upcoming Lenovo K900, which have killer specs that should be good enough for a desktop windows 8.
I though that being x86 theses phones can install anything x86, it is not that simple it seems, too bad -.-
running Windows 8 Firmware
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
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Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
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Seems fishy. The lockscreen was an Android lockscreen, and the error popup also looked like an Android popup.
I honestly think he was just using something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XwIeWfvcZ_o#!
It seems that the ASUS tablet 810 has a medfield SoC and runs windows 8, so it's almost certainly within the capabilities of the hardware. The question is whether or not we can get the bootloader to play nice or maybe stick a custom bootloader on it.
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
It's almost impossible to port w8 on Nexus 7 it requires a lot of work
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
No it wouldn't
That piece of "software" is not touching any of my hardware...
marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Never gonna happen. I guess you're eager be sued by the folks in Redmond?
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It is possible. Buy a Surface tablet and enjoy.
I'd totally buy a Windows RT tablet, price is key.
$499+? No way.
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Im not sure windows rt is really what you're looking for. I believe multitasking will be like android (unload apps to conserve ram), "tablet" apps are up to the developer, and "desktop" apps won't run at all. What you think you want is windows 8, but you will have to give up more than you think to get those. Rt is the basically a middle ground between windows 8(x86) and phone. (arm)
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Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Remember that windows and android are not just two different operating systems, but to completely different TYPES of operation systems. Android is open source so you can port it to whatever and hack it to run on different devices. You can only do that to windows with Microsoft's permission, and help. Microsoft doesn't even sell windows rt, let alone let you run it on an android device. You have to pay for Windows RT by buying a device with it installed, and even then you have no right to transfer it to another device.
So the limitations are not just technical, but legal due to its closed source nature and the way it is sold. Android is limited only by the (likely closed source) drivers or lack thereof for the device.
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If I wanted a Win8 tablet, I'd buy a Surface. No thanks.
Maybe what you want is Win8 on your pc/laptop, and then splashtop streamer. They claim multitouch works via their software..
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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Agreed. Most people don't understand that there are 2 versions. Pro and RT. RT is a scaled down version that won't run your typical desktop applications. Pro is what you want (if you want windows in a tablet).
I ran Windows 8 DP on my old Asus EP121 slate tablet (which was a real i5 64-bit machine) it I liked the overall experience. I ran photoshop and other powerful applications, however, the efficiency was no better than 65-70%... The ergonomics just weren't there for productivity. Diverse yes, but I'd prefer a laptop or desktop any day for real tasks. Every form has its function I suppose.
The two versions are due to Windows beeing a fat old OS, can't run properly on the ARM processors.
You will need a x86 processor to run all the old legacy stuff, windows fan boys can't live without (expect fat x86 tablets with fans).
RT Version fills the void of the fact windows just needs more juice to run on the new ARM hardware, so they made this version expecting anyone will use it... We all know Windows people, if they can't run word/excel on some hardware, it is not worth buying.
RT version is starting with a almost empty ecosystem... (no, you can't run normal windows x86 programs on RT)
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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nope. windows 8 has a full set of desktop apps. office, ie10 (it's good), command prompt, proper file manager, powershell, an rdp client.
it just doesn't allow to install new apps.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
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I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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honestly, when has copyright ever stopped anything? just look at hd2...
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CrazyPeter said:
It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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i know exactly what RT is. yes, i can't run third party desktop apps, no, i don't care.
it's a TABLET os, with a small set of desktop apps built in.
and android is a tablet os without that set of apps.
i'd much rather run win rt on my nexus - especially after trying ubuntu on it (with full chromium), i feel that android is holding that thing back.
and as for the article, well, it's a bad rep who's been fired. and one thing i found suspicious is that kevin didn't try to install chrome when he just got the tablet - it's mentioned that he loves it so much and all.
W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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we don't have rotation lock and start buttons. you can still access start through the charms bar, and we could handle no lock rotation.
as for the resolution, it is only a requirement to pass microsoft certification. windows rt still supports other resolution. so with nexus 7's 1280x800 resolution, the only thing not working would be app snap.
The feedback towards Windows 8 RT (while not unsupported) seems to be a bit unfair. There is just so much report for Windows 8. They have a solid dev foundation which allows for much better quality software. While I love my Android devices, as an educator, I've noticed its missing the support from key software developrers.
As you may know Intel right now is in the smartphone market with their x86 chip , will there ever be an windows phone 8 pro just like in the tablet world with the rt and pro versions? If there will be would prefer the arm or the x86?
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batna.antab said:
As you may know Intel right now is in the smartphone market with their x86 chip , will there ever be an windows phone 8 pro just like in the tablet world with the rt and pro versions? If there will be would prefer the arm or the x86?
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No, Windows Phones run exclusively on snapdragon devices, and they will continue to do so.
A phone is a phone, not a tablet. Just cause Apple and Google didn't make a clear difference between the two, it doesn't mean there shouldn't be one.
You will continue to use your phone as a...you know...PHONE... and the tablet can be used as productivity tool, which kinda needs an x86x64 CPU as most productivity tools are optimized for those CPUs.
I have a Windows 8 32bit PC how do I unlock Nokia Lumia 720?
Pls..
Install the Windows Phone SDK from Microsoft.
Get a Developer Account from Microsoft (typically these cost $99 USD/year; students can get them free).
Use the Windows Phone Developer Registration app that coms with the SDK and sign in using the Microsoft account to which your Developer Account is tied.
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Install the Windows Phone SDK from Microsoft.
Get a Developer Account from Microsoft (typically these cost $99 USD/year; students can get them free).
Use the Windows Phone Developer Registration app that coms with the SDK and sign in using the Microsoft account to which your Developer Account is tied.
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Windows phone 8 SDK doesn't support 32 bit Win 8...
Ah, didn't know. Haven't run 32bit on any of my primary systems in five years now.
that cracks me up, windows 8 phone not supporting 32 bit Windows 8! HAHA!
Why can't we just have one operating system? lol!
You can use 32bit Windows with WP8, apparently they targeted the dev tools are 64-bit only though.
About time, IMO. 32 bit is legacy. If you want just "one operating system" (a... very silly... request in any case; there are lots of versions of Windows, never mind other OSes, and there are very good reasons for many of them) for today's technology, it would be 64-bit. There's just too many problems with 32-bit address spaces. You could argue that this is Microsoft's attempt to move toward one OS.
I have dev unlocked my ativ s for $19! What xaps can I sideload?
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noelito said:
I have dev unlocked my ativ s for $19! What xaps can I sideload?
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You can sideload any app you build using your own wp8 sdk tools as long as the app doesn't require interop services or other higher capabilities. Sideloading store apps won'tbe possible as they are encrypted.
No unofficial way up to this moment. The only resort is to have student account and subscribe for free.