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If the phone is Intel based, is it possible to run Windows on it - even if its a cut down version?
Windows desktop? Don't think so. Wouldn't scale right on the 4:3" screen.
Windows Phone? Maybe. But it would take a lot of time, time which I think should be invested into Android ROM baking and stuff.
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If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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I think Intel have changed quite a lot within the x86 based architecture to be running fan-less and at that level of battery consumption.
Porting a x86 PC OS would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack and that's just getting it booting.
As for windows phone it has more chance of getting ported to any other android phone as it runs on ARM.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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Robbilie said:
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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As in the stock bootloader won't let you boot from whatever you need to boot from? I figured with an unlocked bootloader, there wouldn't be any issues on that front.
then tell me how to make it boot from my sd card xD
Oh, I have no idea. I just thought those problems would be over. I guess the bootloader just doesn't support that function.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
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That phone is of no help since it uses wrong chip. It uses the Intel atom z530 made in 2008 long before Intel remodeled them for mobiles.
RAZR I uses a atom (soc) completely different.
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
As for booting from sdcard if it doesn't support it then there's nothing we can do to the bootloader to get that to work.
We could boot to nand then mount sdcard partition partitions other phones have ran android from sdcard.
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As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
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I'd be more than happy to help sponsor some development to have the RAZR i running Windows 8 Pro not Windows 8 phone.
I was quote about $2000 for a ITG xpPhone 2 a while ago, with the RAZR i being about $500 unlocked with a newer chipset and a thinner device, it would be really nice to have instead. I have asked for another quote for the ITG xpPhone 2 to see if the price has come down at all.
I'd didn't buy it yet as I thought with Windows 8 being released, there might be a bit more interest in getting it to run on Intel Medfield phones.
I really want a Windows 8 Pro device that I can have in my pocket.
Win 3.1 through aDosBox ?
Another way could be to use aDosBox ?
As for the Asus transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079332
Does the Razri version remove the x86 emulation layer ?
http://www.freeware4android.net/motorola-razr-i-xt890-device-2815/adosbox-get-24103.html
It should provide a faster version than the current ARM-based Android version.
We were talking about the real Windows 8/Windows Phone 8, not 3.1 through emulation.
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
kamuikun said:
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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Actually I'm not specifically interested in the Razr i, just wanted to know if it was possible to run desktop windows in x86 phones, my real target is the upcoming Lenovo K900, which have killer specs that should be good enough for a desktop windows 8.
I though that being x86 theses phones can install anything x86, it is not that simple it seems, too bad -.-
running Windows 8 Firmware
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
Waruna said:
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
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Seems fishy. The lockscreen was an Android lockscreen, and the error popup also looked like an Android popup.
I honestly think he was just using something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XwIeWfvcZ_o#!
It seems that the ASUS tablet 810 has a medfield SoC and runs windows 8, so it's almost certainly within the capabilities of the hardware. The question is whether or not we can get the bootloader to play nice or maybe stick a custom bootloader on it.
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
It's almost impossible to port w8 on Nexus 7 it requires a lot of work
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Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
No it wouldn't
That piece of "software" is not touching any of my hardware...
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Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Never gonna happen. I guess you're eager be sued by the folks in Redmond?
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It is possible. Buy a Surface tablet and enjoy.
I'd totally buy a Windows RT tablet, price is key.
$499+? No way.
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Im not sure windows rt is really what you're looking for. I believe multitasking will be like android (unload apps to conserve ram), "tablet" apps are up to the developer, and "desktop" apps won't run at all. What you think you want is windows 8, but you will have to give up more than you think to get those. Rt is the basically a middle ground between windows 8(x86) and phone. (arm)
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Remember that windows and android are not just two different operating systems, but to completely different TYPES of operation systems. Android is open source so you can port it to whatever and hack it to run on different devices. You can only do that to windows with Microsoft's permission, and help. Microsoft doesn't even sell windows rt, let alone let you run it on an android device. You have to pay for Windows RT by buying a device with it installed, and even then you have no right to transfer it to another device.
So the limitations are not just technical, but legal due to its closed source nature and the way it is sold. Android is limited only by the (likely closed source) drivers or lack thereof for the device.
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If I wanted a Win8 tablet, I'd buy a Surface. No thanks.
Maybe what you want is Win8 on your pc/laptop, and then splashtop streamer. They claim multitouch works via their software..
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
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I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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Agreed. Most people don't understand that there are 2 versions. Pro and RT. RT is a scaled down version that won't run your typical desktop applications. Pro is what you want (if you want windows in a tablet).
I ran Windows 8 DP on my old Asus EP121 slate tablet (which was a real i5 64-bit machine) it I liked the overall experience. I ran photoshop and other powerful applications, however, the efficiency was no better than 65-70%... The ergonomics just weren't there for productivity. Diverse yes, but I'd prefer a laptop or desktop any day for real tasks. Every form has its function I suppose.
The two versions are due to Windows beeing a fat old OS, can't run properly on the ARM processors.
You will need a x86 processor to run all the old legacy stuff, windows fan boys can't live without (expect fat x86 tablets with fans).
RT Version fills the void of the fact windows just needs more juice to run on the new ARM hardware, so they made this version expecting anyone will use it... We all know Windows people, if they can't run word/excel on some hardware, it is not worth buying.
RT version is starting with a almost empty ecosystem... (no, you can't run normal windows x86 programs on RT)
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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nope. windows 8 has a full set of desktop apps. office, ie10 (it's good), command prompt, proper file manager, powershell, an rdp client.
it just doesn't allow to install new apps.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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honestly, when has copyright ever stopped anything? just look at hd2...
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CrazyPeter said:
It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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i know exactly what RT is. yes, i can't run third party desktop apps, no, i don't care.
it's a TABLET os, with a small set of desktop apps built in.
and android is a tablet os without that set of apps.
i'd much rather run win rt on my nexus - especially after trying ubuntu on it (with full chromium), i feel that android is holding that thing back.
and as for the article, well, it's a bad rep who's been fired. and one thing i found suspicious is that kevin didn't try to install chrome when he just got the tablet - it's mentioned that he loves it so much and all.
W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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we don't have rotation lock and start buttons. you can still access start through the charms bar, and we could handle no lock rotation.
as for the resolution, it is only a requirement to pass microsoft certification. windows rt still supports other resolution. so with nexus 7's 1280x800 resolution, the only thing not working would be app snap.
The feedback towards Windows 8 RT (while not unsupported) seems to be a bit unfair. There is just so much report for Windows 8. They have a solid dev foundation which allows for much better quality software. While I love my Android devices, as an educator, I've noticed its missing the support from key software developrers.
I briefly tried Win 8 RT during christmas, and thought it might be fun if someone
managed to get this running on our device. I know there are quite a few challenges,
but this is where the really clever guys are. Right?
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd2-wp8-port-leads-to-windows-rt-on-the-htc-hd2/
Would be nice to have that extra option. I feel android is kinda 2-dimensional.
as far as I know, it's not possible to run any windows on tab 8.9, or it'll be just super slow. This is because windows phones/tablets are not running an ARM processor that most current devices have.
I don't think Windows RT will ever come to the 8.9 tablet and if it comes it would be very slow. The processor in the 8.9 is good for Android but Windows RT is far heavier and requires way more power.
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I don't think Windows RT will ever come to the 8.9 tablet and if it comes it would be very slow. The processor in the 8.9 is good for Android but Windows RT is far heavier and requires way more power.
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If the htc hd2 with a 1Ghz dual core can run it, I doubt it's the processing power that will stop developers.
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as far as I know, it's not possible to run any windows on tab 8.9, or it'll be just super slow. This is because windows phones/tablets are not running an ARM processor that most current devices have.
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Windows RT is made for ARM devices so...
The word is "open source"...
Nvidia isnt..
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Is there a way to install microsoft publisher in windows phone 8?
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No, there isn't. While WP8 and Windows 8 share a common core Windows Applications and especially Desktop Applications are incompatible with WP8.
There is little common ground between WP8 and W8 RT atm. The core classes used for UI development are completely different.
MS said they would bridge the two platforms over time, but it is unsure if current WP8 devices will ever see that day.
Hello I am just asking if I can flash my Nokia lumoa620 to android if no tell why if yes tut or link please thank u
No you can't. There are no Drivers for the Hardware, no one has bothered to work on it and the most likely reason is that all WP8 devices use SecureBoot to make sure only signed OS code gets executed on the Hardware which (at the Moment at least) prevents any Kind of CustomROMs.
The Windows Mobile days are over. No Windows Phone device has ever been able to run another OS and it's likely to stay that way.
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Hello I am just asking if I can flash my Nokia lumoa620 to android if no tell why if yes tut or link please thank u
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Why do you want android?
Thank u for ur fast answer and i want android for several reasons o can't mention now cone of them because the apps
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scorpionma said:
Thank u for ur fast answer and i want android for several reasons o can't mention now cone of them because the apps
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Why u didnt u get directly an android device?
scorpionma said:
Thank u for ur fast answer and i want android for several reasons o can't mention now cone of them because the apps
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Did you search for apps carefully? Because many apps have the same content like android but the app is called differently.
Nokia android
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Thank u for ur fast answer and i want android for several reasons o can't mention now cone of them because the apps
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If you can wait click here
Android will be available for Nokia, hope we it can dual boot with WP8 :fingers-crossed:
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Did you search for apps carefully? Because many apps have the same content like android but the app is called differently.
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names not problem... he want "free" apps
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Android will be available for Nokia, hope we it can dual boot with WP8 :fingers-crossed:
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i be deeply disappointment if Nokia adopt android.... from lover to deeply hater
Nope. Windows devices are all protected and encrypted to hell and back. You'd be better off getting a separate Android device (consider a Nexus device, those are cheap and good for their cost), or finding replacement apps for WinPhone.
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No Windows Phone device has ever been able to run another OS and it's likely to stay that way.
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Ever heard of HTC HD2?
lolerpro8 said:
Ever heard of HTC HD2?
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Yes, we heard of that. And it's not a Windows Phone device! It originally ran Windows Mobile (which is something completely different than Windows Phone) and was hacked to run other operating systems like android, and even Windows 8
The only reason the HD2 lasted so long, was because @coutulla was behind the hood. He had done everything he possibly wanted on that device. With him not interested in Windows Phone, you all can just wait for HTC and MS to work out the kinks for dual-boot phones. Go to WPCentral to figure out your self. My only remark: Nokia devices will not be able to run android, or vice versa, misc phones e.g. Motorola Droids will not run WP8. WP8 is device specific, while Android can float around a little more easy, but both Android and Windows Phone is dependent on the cellular radio and device specific drivers. It's a can 'o worms that we don't want to mess with, and the one that can to this type of work are going away from Windows Phone. Anyways, I'm not sure what ultrashot has been up to these days.
HD2 (Leo) was a Windows Mobile device (WinMo 6.5 was retroactively rebranded Windows Phone, but it bears no resemblance to the WP line). Although WP7 was successfully ported to the Leo, the hardware actually did not conform to the chassis specification for the OS; calling it a "Windows Phone device" is therefore more than a little disingenuous. Besides, even among WinMo devices, the Leo was absurdly multi-OS capable; most mobile devices are lucky if they ever get two different OS families running on them. Leo had WinMo, WP7, Android, desktop Linux, and a handful of others as well; the fact that this is notable makes it the exception which proves the rule that generally, it's not possible.
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The only reason the HD2 lasted so long, was because @coutulla was behind the hood. He had done everything he possibly wanted on that device. With him not interested in Windows Phone, you all can just wait for HTC and MS to work out the kinks for dual-boot phones. Go to WPCentral to figure out your self. My only remark: Nokia devices will not be able to run android, or vice versa, misc phones e.g. Motorola Droids will not run WP8. WP8 is device specific, while Android can float around a little more easy, but both Android and Windows Phone is dependent on the cellular radio and device specific drivers. It's a can 'o worms that we don't want to mess with, and the one that can to this type of work are going away from Windows Phone. Anyways, I'm not sure what ultrashot has been up to these days.
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And only think that the bigger part of cotulla's projects weren't public released (windows embedded compact 7, apple stuff and so on ) I wonder what he is doing now..and where is the DFT (probably they are working on htc one). Anyway, I think that a dual boot between android and WP8 is not possible because of UEFI..android doesn't have it so it's impossible to make it boot if on the phone there's WP8. Cotulla made a long chain to make it possible: HSPL-MAGLDR(to run android)-UEFI MAGLDR(to run WP8) And HTC or any other manufacter will do something like that. Windows asked HTC to give a choice (Android OR windows phone)..I think that HTC refused because Microsoft asked even to Huawei and Samsung in any chase HTC is failing, probably will close soon..
Why are you doing this,Android is not smooth,I hate it,so I buy a windows phone to instead HTC Desire.
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And what about now ? still nothing?
Recently My bank put a App online, and this the only way that I can deal with my bank and the App is only for iOS or Android...and dont really want to buy anything else
In my country, few people every day bombard bank mail with demand for WP app and after one year we got bank app for WP8... You never get Android on WP device. Forget it.
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Difficult migrating to Windows phone...
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