Windows 8 RT on the GT-P73XX? - Galaxy Tab 8.9 General

I briefly tried Win 8 RT during christmas, and thought it might be fun if someone
managed to get this running on our device. I know there are quite a few challenges,
but this is where the really clever guys are. Right?
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd2-wp8-port-leads-to-windows-rt-on-the-htc-hd2/
Would be nice to have that extra option. I feel android is kinda 2-dimensional.

as far as I know, it's not possible to run any windows on tab 8.9, or it'll be just super slow. This is because windows phones/tablets are not running an ARM processor that most current devices have.

I don't think Windows RT will ever come to the 8.9 tablet and if it comes it would be very slow. The processor in the 8.9 is good for Android but Windows RT is far heavier and requires way more power.

Ginkeltjes said:
I don't think Windows RT will ever come to the 8.9 tablet and if it comes it would be very slow. The processor in the 8.9 is good for Android but Windows RT is far heavier and requires way more power.
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If the htc hd2 with a 1Ghz dual core can run it, I doubt it's the processing power that will stop developers.
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JU57FL1P said:
as far as I know, it's not possible to run any windows on tab 8.9, or it'll be just super slow. This is because windows phones/tablets are not running an ARM processor that most current devices have.
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Windows RT is made for ARM devices so...
The word is "open source"...
Nvidia isnt..
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Windows on Nook Color

Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
Raptor said:
Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
Try pocketcloud from the market... itll let yo remote desktop to a win7 machine and turn your nc into essentially a thin client... pair it with a membership at dynds.org for a solution away from home.
Not exactly what you asked for but its the best youll ever get...
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Win7 Pro has a tablet thing that some say are good (would switch it on but no touch screen for my pc)
As for actually running it Android does well enough, im sure its possible but lack of drivers has stopped me from trying. If anything id try a live linux distro on the SD just thinking it could run it better, but win7 even in tablet settings would probably run like that Archos one, bad.
Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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madfatter said:
not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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This is just wishful thinking on your part. Even if the NC had the processing power it runs a TI OMAP ARM processor. Windows 7 is only capable of running on x86 and AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
Your best bet may be to use VNC or something similar to get access to a windows 7 remote desktop environment.
madfatter said:
not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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Let me clarify:
- No holy war comments
- AND apparently...
- No unnecessary insults
I posted the comment in "this section" (Nook Color "THEMES" and Apps) for the reason of a good fully emulated Windows 7 theme would suffice.
But YES I do wish a "hacked" version of Windows 7 could be developed. I did not ask for Win7 Ultimate, or Enerprise but Win7.
If we took the assumption that only a full unmodifed version of any OS could be run on these devices then I think we would all just be reading eBooks on them from B&N. Win7 just like ANY OS can be stripped down in many ways, even if basic stripping down was not sufficient, it would be a start. From there things can be modifed further.
So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
Short of that I would be willing to accept any of the following in the order listed from top down:
- Any version of Win7
- WinMo 6.5x
- WP7 (if someone can make it do something other than the standard WP7) (ie: remove the iPhone'ish lockdown limitations and run WinMo apps)
- Win7 themes that work on the rooted Nook Colors
- WP7 theme (as a theme would not come with the limitations of WP7 itself)
- WinMo 6.5x theme
- NT4 theme
- NT 3.51 theme
- OK that is as low as I am willing to go, although I would not mind having CMD on the Win7 version with the internal commands... lol
Read the above with a certain amount of sarcasim and reality, Win7 ROX so as close as my Nook Color tablet can get to it would make me happy (as well as a few others as well I am sure)!
Raptor
@ Jason - Thanks, I do have a Remote control client accessing my static IP devices.
Unfortunately we are just not there yet with the passthrough of the touch commands as I wouldlike it to be, and beyond that I was looking for a Win7 interface even when not on WiFi. I just like the standard commands, interfaces, etc... that I am familiar with over the Android OS. Not to knock it but it's not my prefered GUI.
But you are right, that does suffice at this time.
Raptor
Maybe someone can get Windows 95 up and running
dascud said:
This is just wishful thinking on your part. ....... AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
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Wishful thinking is why I finally have skinny tablet computer in my haands only (insert sarcaism here) 42 years after seeing James T Kirk with one.
Win7 ARM platform... oh the rumors are already started. Balmer is supposed to be making an announcement of this @ CES 2011. Am I expecting it to be released before the Nook Color becomes my primary dust pan... probably not, but I am eagerly waiting onthenews just the same.
WP7 on the Nook Color; That would be nice once it has copy/paste and the other 1,400 features that WinMo 6.5x had that were removed or "not included" in the new WP7 OS (sorry, sore subject).
Raptor
wvcachi said:
Maybe someone can get Windows 95 up and running
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Wahoooo........ Now were talking...
In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
Basically, id love to play age of mythology on this thing ;D
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urbanengine1 said:
In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
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Maybe if we all ask Bill Gates real nice he will find it in his heart to release the source for WinXP so that XDA developers can port it for ARM architecture. What with this being Xmas and all.
I am an optimist but also a realist. Chances of getting WinXP to run natively on the Nook Color or any other ARM tablet are next to none.
Why will Microsoft take it upon themselves to port an unsupported 2 generations old OS to the ARM platform. IMO it will be a cold day in Hell before Microsoft releases the source for WinXP.
If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.
Look i dont know much about such things but surely CE is possible?
got this from arm.com:
"Hi, There
Microsoft itself makes tools for developing with Windows CE running on an ARM processor. If you go to the ARM Connected Community page for Microsoft Windows CE:
http://www.arm.com/community/display_compa...3&display=3
and scroll down to the contact information, you'll find a link to Microsoft's resources for embedded developers:
http://www.microsoft...ndows/embedded/
You should find what you need there."
OR BETTER THAN CE: linux and wine
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CE wouldn't be too bad.
You should check out Windows Embedded Compact 7 which uses a lot of the same underlying software as Windows Phone 7 but has a traditional windows gui but can be overlaid with whatever you want.
Man. As soon as someone has a complete backup so we can flash this thing back to default if something goes wrong. Im gonna windows this thing to death >.
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I was thinking Windows 3.1 would be perfect.
OTH, I have seen tablets out there that run windows 7 so it's definitely not unheard of.
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-Windows-Starter-Tablet-Black/dp/tags-on-product/B002V3C4F8
dascud said:
If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.
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Actually I will probably be getting a Dell Duo, but it's not as thin and heavier then the Nook Color as well as the price difference. I bought this on a wim as I bought 2 Nooks (non coler versions) for family members and it was just too darn cheap to pass up on. Needless to say I was thrilled when I checked and xda-developers had a section on Nook Color hacks...
I agree on the XP comments, but CE does support ARM (as in Windows Mobile (take your pick on the version)). I would like to see a WinMo 6.5x OS running on the Nook Color.
Raptor
new question...
has anyone succesfully gotten a full OS to boot from an sd card?
if so i might try mucking around with CE and get it installed on an sd...
if not i wont do it because i REALLY dont want to stuff up my color.
Now... does anyone know of any working drivers ;D
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So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
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I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!
Raptor said:
I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!
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you will brick your nook... ok closest i could come up with..

Which Linux Distro Should I Use?

Was wondering if somebody fluent in the Linux OS could help me choose a good Linux distro. Currently running LMDE, but it seems as if my laptops battery pluments. I have a high capacity 6-cell battery which usually lasts me 6-7 hours on windows. But only lasts 4 hours or less in LMDE. Anyways I'm looking for something that has just about everything working out of the box. LMDE had my WiFi drivers... my graphics drivers... which Linux is picky with my radeon GPU. My laptop is
HP Pavilion Dv6z quad edition
AMD A8 3550-MX (APU)
Radeon HD Discrete Class Graphics (I believe its a 6220g)
6GB RAM
Etc.
If you need any more info just ask. Thanks.
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Moved to Off-Topic.
Try Ubuntu, I have it set as a dual boot OS on my desktop and it had most of the drivers I needed.
Ubuntu tends to run "out of the box" without any additional installs or tweaks, so you could try it. Make a live CD and check that everything is working before you install it.
Oops. I should have mentioned I tried Ubuntu 11.10 and it wouldn't display my screen turns out it doesn't like my GPU. Tried 10.04 and it worked... but hardly. Haven't tried 12 yet... might try it and see if it still does the black screen deal. Trying to stay away from fedora or RPM based distros as I hear they are a little more difficult and I'm a Linux illiterate.
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If you've still got an Ubuntu 11 disc available, this thread may help with your display issue...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929234
Archer said:
If you've still got an Ubuntu 11 disc available, this thread may help with your display issue...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929234
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Yeah I looked into that. But I also saw that people did this and their resolution was terrible. I might try it again. If I find the disk again.
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ÜBER™ said:
Yeah I looked into that. But I also saw that people did this and their resolution was terrible. I might try it again. If I find the disk again.
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I just used that to get up and running. Once I was dual-booting and able to run Ubuntu I just changed the resolution in that and it was all good.
Archer said:
I just used that to get up and running. Once I was dual-booting and able to run Ubuntu I just changed the resolution in that and it was all good.
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Being a complete illiterate on this stuff... its a little daunting. If someone would like to help along the way a little later... my talk is [email protected]
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Check out CrunchBang, haven't tried the newest build yet but it's super lightweight and snappy, it is by far my favorite distro and has been rock solid on 3 different machines for a year and a half now.
tromoly said:
Check out CrunchBang, haven't tried the newest build yet but it's super lightweight and snappy, it is by far my favorite distro and has been rock solid on 3 different machines for a year and a half now.
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Intresting never heard of it.. then again the only ones you ever really hear of are Ubuntu and Fedora... so ill take a look at it. I understand desktops are a lot more linux friendly? Wondering if there is one that is more laptop friendly. Laptops tend to have more drivers such as Wifi bluetooth and so on and so forth. Maybe somthing like that?
ÜBER™ said:
Intresting never heard of it.. then again the only ones you ever really hear of are Ubuntu and Fedora... so ill take a look at it. I understand desktops are a lot more linux friendly? Wondering if there is one that is more laptop friendly. Laptops tend to have more drivers such as Wifi bluetooth and so on and so forth. Maybe somthing like that?
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I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 6920 laptop and an Asus Eee netbook, both worked great out of the box. The main thing I like is there are lots of keyboard shortcuts to open apps, really cuts down time for opening anything.
tromoly said:
I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 6920 laptop and an Asus Eee netbook, both worked great out of the box. The main thing I like is there are lots of keyboard shortcuts to open apps, really cuts down time for opening anything.
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Alright gotta find my DVD's and make a disk.
Intel processors?
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I just took a look at Linux Mint 13 and it looks promising. Can you put Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.04?
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Intel processors?
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Yes sir, the laptop is a Core 2 Duo and the netbook is an Atom.
tromoly said:
Yes sir, the laptop is a Core 2 Duo and the netbook is an Atom.
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That's the problem... I have an AMD and Linux seems to be partial to Intel at least from my experience.
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I use Fedora 17. I like it.
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ÜBER™ said:
That's the problem... I have an AMD and Linux seems to be partial to Intel at least from my experience.
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Ah my fault, completely missed where you said that, sorry 'bout that.
If you grab the "AMD64" iso image you should be fine, it's been a while but I remember running Ubuntu 9.04 on AMD with no problems, you should be fine.
Debian squeeze is very good for that sort of thing
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Try Ubuntu, it will make you just happy

Windows OS?

If the phone is Intel based, is it possible to run Windows on it - even if its a cut down version?
Windows desktop? Don't think so. Wouldn't scale right on the 4:3" screen.
Windows Phone? Maybe. But it would take a lot of time, time which I think should be invested into Android ROM baking and stuff.
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agree.
If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
kHron0S said:
If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
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I think Intel have changed quite a lot within the x86 based architecture to be running fan-less and at that level of battery consumption.
Porting a x86 PC OS would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack and that's just getting it booting.
As for windows phone it has more chance of getting ported to any other android phone as it runs on ARM.
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Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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Robbilie said:
i have arch linux and ubuntu x86 running so only the bootloader is the problem...
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As in the stock bootloader won't let you boot from whatever you need to boot from? I figured with an unlocked bootloader, there wouldn't be any issues on that front.
then tell me how to make it boot from my sd card xD
Oh, I have no idea. I just thought those problems would be over. I guess the bootloader just doesn't support that function.
DKSE said:
Here is an atom powered x86 phone that runs windows 7. I am not a dev but I do believe this is quite possible if we can get the right minds interested.
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That phone is of no help since it uses wrong chip. It uses the Intel atom z530 made in 2008 long before Intel remodeled them for mobiles.
RAZR I uses a atom (soc) completely different.
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
As for booting from sdcard if it doesn't support it then there's nothing we can do to the bootloader to get that to work.
We could boot to nand then mount sdcard partition partitions other phones have ran android from sdcard.
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dethrat said:
As I said would be extremely difficult for little in return.
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I'd be more than happy to help sponsor some development to have the RAZR i running Windows 8 Pro not Windows 8 phone.
I was quote about $2000 for a ITG xpPhone 2 a while ago, with the RAZR i being about $500 unlocked with a newer chipset and a thinner device, it would be really nice to have instead. I have asked for another quote for the ITG xpPhone 2 to see if the price has come down at all.
I'd didn't buy it yet as I thought with Windows 8 being released, there might be a bit more interest in getting it to run on Intel Medfield phones.
I really want a Windows 8 Pro device that I can have in my pocket.
Win 3.1 through aDosBox ?
Another way could be to use aDosBox ?
As for the Asus transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079332
Does the Razri version remove the x86 emulation layer ?
http://www.freeware4android.net/motorola-razr-i-xt890-device-2815/adosbox-get-24103.html
It should provide a faster version than the current ARM-based Android version.
We were talking about the real Windows 8/Windows Phone 8, not 3.1 through emulation.
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
kamuikun said:
Any news about installing a real desktop windows on this device ? Are there any x86 phone that can do that anyway ?
My main goal is to build an x86 handheld for retro games (old native windows games), probably coupled with an iControlPad 2.
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The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
Vistaus said:
The only thing that would run fine is Windows 8 desktop but we need someone to write an UEFI bootloader for the Razr i first. And even if it boots I'm not sure how the battery life will be nor how we would trigger it to install (the default installer will be useless on such a small screen). Aside from the legal issues it would bring...
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Actually I'm not specifically interested in the Razr i, just wanted to know if it was possible to run desktop windows in x86 phones, my real target is the upcoming Lenovo K900, which have killer specs that should be good enough for a desktop windows 8.
I though that being x86 theses phones can install anything x86, it is not that simple it seems, too bad -.-
running Windows 8 Firmware
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
Waruna said:
Is it fake or not?youtube.com/watch?v=H5ZKxNkf-IU
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Seems fishy. The lockscreen was an Android lockscreen, and the error popup also looked like an Android popup.
I honestly think he was just using something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XwIeWfvcZ_o#!
It seems that the ASUS tablet 810 has a medfield SoC and runs windows 8, so it's almost certainly within the capabilities of the hardware. The question is whether or not we can get the bootloader to play nice or maybe stick a custom bootloader on it.

windows 8 rt

Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
It's almost impossible to port w8 on Nexus 7 it requires a lot of work
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
No it wouldn't
That piece of "software" is not touching any of my hardware...
marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Never gonna happen. I guess you're eager be sued by the folks in Redmond?
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CrazyPeter said:
I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It is possible. Buy a Surface tablet and enjoy.
I'd totally buy a Windows RT tablet, price is key.
$499+? No way.
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Im not sure windows rt is really what you're looking for. I believe multitasking will be like android (unload apps to conserve ram), "tablet" apps are up to the developer, and "desktop" apps won't run at all. What you think you want is windows 8, but you will have to give up more than you think to get those. Rt is the basically a middle ground between windows 8(x86) and phone. (arm)
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Remember that windows and android are not just two different operating systems, but to completely different TYPES of operation systems. Android is open source so you can port it to whatever and hack it to run on different devices. You can only do that to windows with Microsoft's permission, and help. Microsoft doesn't even sell windows rt, let alone let you run it on an android device. You have to pay for Windows RT by buying a device with it installed, and even then you have no right to transfer it to another device.
So the limitations are not just technical, but legal due to its closed source nature and the way it is sold. Android is limited only by the (likely closed source) drivers or lack thereof for the device.
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If I wanted a Win8 tablet, I'd buy a Surface. No thanks.
Maybe what you want is Win8 on your pc/laptop, and then splashtop streamer. They claim multitouch works via their software..
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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Agreed. Most people don't understand that there are 2 versions. Pro and RT. RT is a scaled down version that won't run your typical desktop applications. Pro is what you want (if you want windows in a tablet).
I ran Windows 8 DP on my old Asus EP121 slate tablet (which was a real i5 64-bit machine) it I liked the overall experience. I ran photoshop and other powerful applications, however, the efficiency was no better than 65-70%... The ergonomics just weren't there for productivity. Diverse yes, but I'd prefer a laptop or desktop any day for real tasks. Every form has its function I suppose.
The two versions are due to Windows beeing a fat old OS, can't run properly on the ARM processors.
You will need a x86 processor to run all the old legacy stuff, windows fan boys can't live without (expect fat x86 tablets with fans).
RT Version fills the void of the fact windows just needs more juice to run on the new ARM hardware, so they made this version expecting anyone will use it... We all know Windows people, if they can't run word/excel on some hardware, it is not worth buying.
RT version is starting with a almost empty ecosystem... (no, you can't run normal windows x86 programs on RT)
SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
slimdizzy said:
Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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nope. windows 8 has a full set of desktop apps. office, ie10 (it's good), command prompt, proper file manager, powershell, an rdp client.
it just doesn't allow to install new apps.
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Omar04 said:
This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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honestly, when has copyright ever stopped anything? just look at hd2...
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CrazyPeter said:
It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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i know exactly what RT is. yes, i can't run third party desktop apps, no, i don't care.
it's a TABLET os, with a small set of desktop apps built in.
and android is a tablet os without that set of apps.
i'd much rather run win rt on my nexus - especially after trying ubuntu on it (with full chromium), i feel that android is holding that thing back.
and as for the article, well, it's a bad rep who's been fired. and one thing i found suspicious is that kevin didn't try to install chrome when he just got the tablet - it's mentioned that he loves it so much and all.
W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
peterk-1 said:
W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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we don't have rotation lock and start buttons. you can still access start through the charms bar, and we could handle no lock rotation.
as for the resolution, it is only a requirement to pass microsoft certification. windows rt still supports other resolution. so with nexus 7's 1280x800 resolution, the only thing not working would be app snap.
The feedback towards Windows 8 RT (while not unsupported) seems to be a bit unfair. There is just so much report for Windows 8. They have a solid dev foundation which allows for much better quality software. While I love my Android devices, as an educator, I've noticed its missing the support from key software developrers.

Windows phone 8 pro

As you may know Intel right now is in the smartphone market with their x86 chip , will there ever be an windows phone 8 pro just like in the tablet world with the rt and pro versions? If there will be would prefer the arm or the x86?
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batna.antab said:
As you may know Intel right now is in the smartphone market with their x86 chip , will there ever be an windows phone 8 pro just like in the tablet world with the rt and pro versions? If there will be would prefer the arm or the x86?
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No, Windows Phones run exclusively on snapdragon devices, and they will continue to do so.
A phone is a phone, not a tablet. Just cause Apple and Google didn't make a clear difference between the two, it doesn't mean there shouldn't be one.
You will continue to use your phone as a...you know...PHONE... and the tablet can be used as productivity tool, which kinda needs an x86x64 CPU as most productivity tools are optimized for those CPUs.

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