Database Develop

BOOOOOOM Apple just dropped the iPhone OS 4.0 A-BOMB

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Wow, they finally got around to basic functionalities after three years. Functionalities that Symbian and WinMo were doing since forever. Very revolutionary and magical. Color me awed.
Just about the only thing Android needs to do to "catch up" is a better multi-tasking UI. Then again, considering the iPhone OS 4.0 will handle a grand total of seven tasks--as opposed to Android showing the last six apps used--well...

folders!!! haha.

jarude said:
folders!!! haha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well atleast there starting to catch up
Steve really outdid himself this time

this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!

Austin021296 said:
Well atleast there starting to catch up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.

britoso said:
They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL so true

So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, Apple just ripped off a bunch of features from Android, which will undoubtedly drive iSheep sales up.

ohhh! a bunch of stuff that almost every other phone already has... android, winMo, WebOS...

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing

jasrups said:
Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)

They dropped the bomb until they put this dud out.
I own a bunch of Apple devices and Ive had an iPhone before. Im not a hater, I just dont think it's cutting edge anymore. I even have an iPad so you can't say Im an apple hater

Is just another iPhone... but still Google needs to get their act together in a few areas. I borrowed a N1 for few days and like it very much, but I have been reluctant to take the plunge because of the following shortcomings:
Google needs to allow Contacts, Tasks and Notes to sync to the N1 (locally and remotely) using Google apps. It also needs to either enhance the Calendar application or make it play nice with Outlook desktop calendar functions. Me and whole bunch of other people I know, are very comfortable with Outlook to manage their email, time, contacts and tasks. Help us migrate to Android and to the Google apps without so much fuzz. Don't leave it to third parties. I don't want to risk my critical data to a vendor that is here today, but might not be here tomorrow. I'm not very happy leaving all my critical data in the cloud, but if I'm going to do it... Google needs to help me get there. Security and the integrity of my data are important. I have confidence in Google, but not on third party vendors for this critical step.
The Music Player needs enhancement and a Google desktop application to manage one's Music Library and multiple playlist is needed. Most decent portable DAP have such application. Maybe Google can partner or acquire a vendor that knows how to do this right.
Just like the new iPhone the inbox of Android needs to be bit more friendly with other email service providers. As with the new IPhone OS 4, multiple Exchange servers should be supported along with the option to have multiple and merged inboxes.
I wonder if others feel the same way. I also know that there are other issues that need to be addressed, but in my case the top two are very important.

The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...

azalex86 said:
Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with you in that there's no need for them to boost their specs at this point, but I was referring more to a cosmetic facelift. The iPhone has pretty much looked the same for 3 years now and I think even Apple fanboys can agree that everyone is tired of the design.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, if I understand you correctly... The N1 is "not" a Music Player... is "not" meant for business... and as you say is "not" for me. So, in your book it's only good to make calls and find yourself on a map? It's called a "Superphone"... What's else is it good for?

SubyWill said:
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just pray for it to include VPN, proxy settings, full Exchange support (including tasks), WPA-Enterprise...
But I'm guessing it won't.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is not an excuse IMO, the music player definitely needs an update. This is the one area where iPhone has a real advantage over Android. Most users would rather carry one device for everyday use, I know I certainly would.

You know I love WP7... so I bought an HD2

[Edit: HD2 at home]
Hi! I just wanted to let you know guys that I'm moving to WP7. I love WP7 (so I made NOVA WP7 theme and the WP7 themed Apps) so it had to happen some day.
I found a xda Marketplace user who was willing to trade his HTC HD2, the phone I will always love, for my Black. We were up to do it, until my parent decided to get me an HD7 to avoid me doing a phone trading on the Internet (pretty risky).
It's not an HD2 and I won't be able to have Android on it, but it's its brother and won't make me spend hours trying new ROMs: I have to study now and can't waste my time so hard.
I will be here until I get it, and will keep the Black at least until I receive the HD7, then I will try to sell it.
I guess I won't make it to see ICS LOL (neither do you ) Hahaha sure CM9 will come soon.
Not saying good bye yet, just an "I'm leaving soon".

haha ..gud luk wid that ..

venky77 said:
haha ..gud luk wid that ..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Something I should be aware of?

yes... windows ...

well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck

from android to Windows phone ??
damm drugs

spyb0y said:
well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I love. Plain simple structure. I have my ROM fully customized as WP7 since some time ago. That must be a signal haha
I'm just tired of the unstability of the Black, battery specially. Always draining with no reason, can't trust it... although I love my Black. I will keep it for a while so... I can always go back if I don't like WP7. But I think I'll love it
Thanks
Enviado desde mi LG-P970 usando Tapatalk

Noooooooo!!!
man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee

Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App

yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He can try to use a Bluetooth keyboard connected and press ctrl+alt+del

WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.

hectorrent said:
I want burning my black... If I just had another smartphone... xD
Congrats antonio, I suppose I won't read you again at elandroidelibre xD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
achyut said:
man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
BoyBawang2 said:
WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...

Hey! Congrats on your new possession.
Even I was thinking of buying HD7,but I went for LG OB.
Its was mere coz of the battery, HD7 has a 1230mAh battery as compared to the 1500mAh in LG OB.

The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me

zaitz said:
The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I read about that but with Mango it's fixed I think. One thing I like of WP7 (apart from its beauty) is the non-fragmentation of the updates, so I hope I don't have to feel disappointed again for not having the updates
I guess I will have to get used to its closeness, just as I had an iPhone LOL

Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way

vmjoaquim said:
Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!

antonio1475 said:
Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem! I admit to be an 'avid mod tester' myself That is why I'll still recommend android to my friends. But WP7 do have mods to try out as well, just that the process is complicated. :/ So I believe it will help in getting you focused on your schoolwork xD
Yeap, it hasn't crashed once on my phone. ( I've had it for a month). Sending/Receiving texts or pictures are quick. Just fyi, location services are pretty solid as well. Videos on the web might be a bit of a hassle since flash is not supported, but since HTML5 is going to be the new standard, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Main thing that bothers me, is getting use to the thickness of the phone. Since I've been pampered by the OB's slim chassis xD

antonio1475 said:
Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!

timvdhoorn said:
could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't... it's a paid app so I can't share , it would be warez and it isn't allowed.
Sorry

my feelings towards iOS after 3years on andorid

i had a legacy of android phones, mainly htc models (even their tablets) and allways i thought that ios is a sh*t that cannot be modded or uses freely as android but lemme tell u, after 2 weeks of spinning around on a 4S, JAILBROKEN (!), i actually got to like it more than android. sure there are things that bug me, such as multitasking handling etc, and sure, i still use a combo of both OSes, but iOS aint that bad (only after being jailbroken), the things i have found at Cydia are beyond my imagination, compared to android, a jailborken iOS device can be more freely customized and used than a rooted android,, so yeah.. it is kinda an awkward period for me now..
Mod edit: Aaaaand this is my cue to close this now derailed and fail attempt to troll these troll.
Sorry mate...did teh deed for teh good of the forum and for teh LULZ.
Cheers,

Xxul said:
i had a legacy of android phones, mainly htc models (even their tablets) and allways i thought that ios is a sh*t that cannot be modded or uses freely as android but lemme tell u, after 2 weeks of spinning around on a 4S, JAILBROKEN (!), i actually got to like it more than android. sure there are things that bug me, such as multitasking handling etc, and sure, i still use a combo of both OSes, but iOS aint that bad (only after being jailbroken), the things i have found at Cydia are beyond my imagination, compared to android, a jailborken iOS device can be more freely customized and used than a rooted android,, so yeah.. it is kinda an awkward period for me now..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Put it this way, iOS jailbroken is like Android unrooted or unlocked lol.

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Here's how I see it.
Jailbreak iPhone to be able to install 3rd party apps.
VS
Toggle a setting on a stock Android phone to install non market apps.
Win Android.
Jailbreak iPhone to add features and themes
VS
Root Android phone and flash a custom ROM to add features, themes, custom Launchers etc.
I still have to give the win to Android.
I really don't see what the point of this thread was if the OP wasn't trying to stir up a ruckus since it's all a matter of opinion anyway. Use whatever works best for you.

OF COURSE the ability to side load apps and change the icons on your "appdrawer" gives you more freedom than:
Custom roms
Custom Kernels
Overclocking/Underclocking your CPU
Ability to edit system files
100% control over your phone, etc etc
Yeah you are....right...

I think that this thread will be closed. Soon.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Hell Guardian said:
OF COURSE the ability to side load apps and change the icons on your "appdrawer" gives you more freedom than:
Custom roms [correct]
Custom Kernels [correct]
Overclocking/Underclocking your CPU [correct]
Ability to edit system files [false]
100% control over your phone, etc etc
Yeah you are....right...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
..

Hey guess what.
No one cares.

veeman said:
Hey guess what.
No one cares.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Xxul said:
i had a legacy of android phones, mainly htc models (even their tablets) and allways i thought that ios is a sh*t that cannot be modded or uses freely as android but lemme tell u, after 2 weeks of spinning around on a 4S, JAILBROKEN (!), i actually got to like it more than android. sure there are things that bug me, such as multitasking handling etc, and sure, i still use a combo of both OSes, but iOS aint that bad (only after being jailbroken), the things i have found at Cydia are beyond my imagination, compared to android, a jailborken iOS device can be more freely customized and used than a rooted android,, so yeah.. it is kinda an awkward period for me now..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ill give you a 6/10. Original posts, reasoning. Nice execution. Still lacking believability though and your logical fallacies are a bit weak. Overall not too bad of a trolling attempt, but you need to work on your skills.
I got b& at /a/ for sh!tposting ;_;

Xxul said:
i had a legacy of android phones, mainly htc models (even their tablets) and allways i thought that ios is a sh*t that cannot be modded or uses freely as android but lemme tell u, after 2 weeks of spinning around on a 4S, JAILBROKEN (!), i actually got to like it more than android. sure there are things that bug me, such as multitasking handling etc, and sure, i still use a combo of both OSes, but iOS aint that bad (only after being jailbroken), the things i have found at Cydia are beyond my imagination, compared to android, a jailborken iOS device can be more freely customized and used than a rooted android,, so yeah.. it is kinda an awkward period for me now..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thinks in Cydia are not really mind blowing. You have a bunch of themes and emulators and stuff. Android still has more customization.

Cydia has a couple of nice apps and tweaks, but it's not close to Android's tweaking capabilities. I used to tweak my iPhone 3GS back in the days and i had a lot of fun, but you'll hit a wall after some time, and there's not that much more to do.
- File Manager - Check
- Themes - Check
- Widgets - Check
- LS replacement - Check
- Notifications tweaks/addons - Check
- Other minor tweaks - Check
But after i was finished installing and tweaking stuff there wasn't that much to do. The thing Android has that iOS doesn't have; is custom ROM's. If i'm sick and tired of TouchWiz, i'll flash CyanogenMod. If i'm bored with CM i'll jump to MIUI etc. There are a lot of options in the Android world, and iOS doesn't offer that kind of options. Still, it's nice that iOS users has Cydia, but i left that ship a "long" time ago - and i really don't miss it. I need mah ROM's damnit!

Racism racism everywhere

husam666 said:
Racism racism everywhere
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Que?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

LordManhattan said:
Que?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mobile phone OS racism
give OP a chance, it's only his opinion.

Xxul said:
i had a legacy of android phones, mainly htc models (even their tablets) and allways i thought that ios is a sh*t that cannot be modded or uses freely as android but lemme tell u, after 2 weeks of spinning around on a 4S, JAILBROKEN (!), i actually got to like it more than android. sure there are things that bug me, such as multitasking handling etc, and sure, i still use a combo of both OSes, but iOS aint that bad (only after being jailbroken), the things i have found at Cydia are beyond my imagination, compared to android, a jailborken iOS device can be more freely customized and used than a rooted android,, so yeah.. it is kinda an awkward period for me now..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, this doesn't make much sense, especially the customization bit. CM and others have theme chooser, MIUI has the Themes App and Toolbox, and even stock Roms have multiple launchers that allow quick changes of icons and other bits. We won't even discuss having amazing widgets for free that cost anywhere from $3-10 on Cydia and don't have the same level of functionality.
Let me know when you're able to toggle any settings you want from your lockscreen and homescreen. Also, hit me up when changing notifications is as simple as long-pressing music and sound files.
Jailbroken devices certainly have more ability than factory counterparts but are still behind even stock Android phones in so many ways, let alone a rooted or Rommed handset.
This is CNN

Yeah i know. The whole fanboy war is pathetic, but this is the internet aka the wild west.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

LordManhattan said:
Yeah i know. The whole fanboy war is pathetic, but this is the internet aka the wild west.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what if the server is located in Asia?

LordManhattan said:
Que?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

So this is interesting....

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/1...-million-to-build-the-best-version-of-android
Sent from my SPH-L720 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Interesting indeed. I think there's a lot of potential for cyanogen. But I don't think they should consider changing their name. Millions of people already know the name, I think it would be less consumer-friendly to change it.

CM
Personally I'll stay away from CM if they restructure their GPL's and don't keep it completely OSS.
If they stay FOSS i'll be very happy with what they are doing. I Just don't beleive that they'll keep it open.
But I would never buy the Oppo hardware that theyre going on.

johnylovejoy said:
Personally I'll stay away from CM if they restructure their GPL's and don't keep it completely OSS.
If they stay FOSS i'll be very happy with what they are doing. I Just don't beleive that they'll keep it open.
But I would never buy the Oppo hardware that theyre going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed, oppo has a neat new device but not giving your users expandable memory and a removable battery is like shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to android. with the limitless possibilities of android and the unsecure nature of most cloud storage that was a really bad move on their part. if i wanted a iphone like device then ide just download ios and run it on my s4 lol

xxaddictedxx said:
agreed, oppo has a neat new device but not giving your users expandable memory and a removable battery is like shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to android. with the limitless possibilities of android and the unsecure nature of most cloud storage that was a really bad move on their part. if i wanted a iphone like device then ide just download ios and run it on my s4 lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What a minute! You can run IOS on the S4? BS!
I've never seen/heard this. And that would be a big deal.
Also they can't do a removable battery because of the back touch panel, which is interesting to say the least, but probably not practical.

johnylovejoy said:
What a minute! You can run IOS on the S4? BS!
I've never seen/heard this. And that would be a big deal.
Also they can't do a removable battery because of the back touch panel, which is interesting to say the least, but probably not practical.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no bs my friend a simple google search will give you several options from a mock OS (not really dualbooting but similar) to plain jane launchers
as far as the removable storage/battery....i would rather have a sd card and a removable battery instead of a touch panel that may or may not cause issues with normal everyday use.

xxaddictedxx said:
no bs my friend a simple google search will give you several options from a mock OS (not really dualbooting but similar) to plain jane launchers
as far as the removable storage/battery....i would rather have a sd card and a removable battery instead of a touch panel that may or may not cause issues with normal everyday use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using themes/launchers that look like IOS is completely different that Running IOS.
You make me sad.

nevermind.

iamonyx said:
nevermind.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HAHAHAHA
Yeah that was not real
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

johnylovejoy said:
HAHAHAHA
Yeah that was not real
View attachment 2283389
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is possible to install and run earlier versions of IOS on our phones.....you may not be able to get IOS 7 to run smoothly but it does work

xxaddictedxx said:
it is possible to install and run earlier versions of IOS on our phones.....you may not be able to get IOS 7 to run smoothly but it does work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The question of the century is.......Why in the world would anyone ever want to?

CCallahan said:
The question of the century is.......Why in the world would anyone ever want to?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BINGO!
the program i was talking about is called iosonandroid and its about the closest thing you can get to actual ios. its a mock version of the os that requires a pc to install and from what i have seen and heard its pretty darn close to the real thing. i dont know why you would want to do it but hey its there for those that like dumb down their phones.

xxaddictedxx said:
it is possible to install and run earlier versions of IOS on our phones.....you may not be able to get IOS 7 to run smoothly but it does work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I've Googled for it and i can't find anything about it. Only Spam websites that try to get me to complete a survey, and a joke XDA thread about it pointing to the XDA Noob video.
---------- Post added at 06:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:07 PM ----------
xxaddictedxx said:
BINGO!
the program i was talking about is called iosonandroid and its about the closest thing you can get to actual ios. its a mock version of the os that requires a pc to install and from what i have seen and heard its pretty darn close to the real thing. i dont know why you would want to do it but hey its there for those that like dumb down their phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IOSONANDROID is a FAKE SITE.
There is no way to make IOS run on android Hardware.

johnylovejoy said:
Well I've Googled for it and i can't find anything about it. Only Spam websites that try to get me to complete a survey, and a joke XDA thread about it pointing to the XDA Noob video.
---------- Post added at 06:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:07 PM ----------
IOSONANDROID is a FAKE SITE.
There is no way to make IOS run on android Hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i did research the site a little further and found its an offer site so you were correct about that but that does not negate the fact that it is possible to run IOS's earlier versions on our devices. do you honestly think that we would let IOS get away with being able to run android and not turn around and do the same? again.....why would you want to though?

xxaddictedxx said:
i did research the site a little further and found its an offer site so you were correct about that but that does not negate the fact that it is possible to run IOS's earlier versions on our devices. do you honestly think that we would let IOS get away with being able to run android and not turn around and do the same? again.....why would you want to though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You still have not pointed me to any links to see it.
I'm not trying to use IOS on android as my DD, but it'd be cool to mess around with and play a couple games with my sister who has an iphone. I love android, but IOS does do something better.

xxaddictedxx said:
i did research the site a little further and found its an offer site so you were correct about that but that does not negate the fact that it is possible to run IOS's earlier versions on our devices. do you honestly think that we would let IOS get away with being able to run android and not turn around and do the same? again.....why would you want to though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please show us some concrete evidence of this. In 4 years of rooting/romming Android devices, I've never seen this done. IOS is a closed-source OS and there's no way that I'm aware of to obtain a legal copy of the software for use on a non-iOS device, older version or not.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

maxpower7 said:
Please show us some concrete evidence of this. In 4 years of rooting/romming Android devices, I've never seen this done. IOS is a closed-source OS and there's no way that I'm aware of to obtain a legal copy of the software for use on a non-iOS device, older version or not.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is my thinking, but this guys seems pretty sure that its availible LOL.

johnylovejoy said:
This is my thinking, but this guys seems pretty sure that its availible LOL.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure he's thinking of something else (maybe a theme or launcher) that he saw years ago and remembered incorrectly. IOS is not able to adapt to different screen resolutions like Android is, so even if it were somehow possible to get ahold of a copy of the OS (illegally), it wouldn't run on any of our devices because they all have unsupported resolutions for the OS. I call either shenanigans or inaccurate memory.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

maxpower7 said:
I'm pretty sure he's thinking of something else (maybe a theme or launcher) that he saw years ago and remembered incorrectly. IOS is not able to adapt to different screen resolutions like Android is, so even if it were somehow possible to get ahold of a copy of the OS (illegally), it wouldn't run on any of our devices because they all have unsupported resolutions for the OS. I call either shenanigans or inaccurate memory.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you all may be right i do remember seeing something about IOS 4 on a samsung device and it was running nearly flawless but now i am unable to find it....dam the bad luck

It was probably Miui.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2

[Q] iOS on KFHD 7" | Possible?

Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you

OlDirty89 said:
Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude,it's not possible.
Sent from my CM 11 Device

You do realise that iOS is not open source right? Technically the kernel sources were supposed to be published but apple found a loophole and didn't want to publish them last I heard, but yea the os itself isn't open source.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD using Tapatalk

I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2

There is one sure "fire" way.....
Wait for it....
Keep waiting.......
Buy an Ipad.......
Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC running Lollipop

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I want some of what the OP is smoking
Sent from my KitKatified HTC One X

OlDirty89 said:
Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my eyes!!!!!!!!! i cant see this !

¬_¬ what has humanity come to ? Why would you even want iOS on your device ? It's just unheard of.

AndroidBronyGuy said:
¬_¬ what has humanity come to ? Why would you even want iOS on your device ? It's just unheard of.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would I even want Windows on my PC? Thankfully people and their needs/preferences differ

OlDirty89 said:
Why would I even want Windows on my PC? Thankfully people and their needs/preferences differ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You wouldn't want it, why ? Because of good ol' linux.

´cause I´m happy with Mac.
And yes...I ran every possible system on my machines...MacBook Pro with Win/OSX and PC with Hackintosh/Win/Linux. Also Windows Mobile, iOS and Android. OSX and iOS is what I´m most productive with.

OlDirty89 said:
´cause I´m happy with Mac.
And yes...I ran every possible system on my machines...MacBook Pro with Win/OSX and PC with Hackintosh/Win/Linux. Also Windows Mobile, iOS and Android. OSX and iOS is what I´m most productive with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly, How can you be so productive with iOS ? it's locked down as **** .

Eh its not as bad if you jailbreak it, it even has a debianesq apt package management system and ssh access. I still have my 2nd gen iPod touch lying around...
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD using Tapatalk

AndroidBronyGuy said:
Honestly, How can you be so productive with iOS ? it's locked down as **** .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's because it's locked down that you're forced to be productive. Or else you'd just be wasting time cocking around with the customization options
Sent from my KitKatified HTC One X

stunts513 said:
Eh its not as bad if you jailbreak it, it even has a debianesq apt package management system and ssh access. I still have my 2nd gen iPod touch lying around...
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't mind the IOS but only IPod/IPhone 3rd generation or lower, Because they can run Android (not very stable).

One question.
Of all of you who are dissing the OP, his/her idea, and iOS itself, how many of you actually tried it? And by try it, I don't mean glance at your friends iPhone and called it crap. How many of you have used it for at least a week, integrating iOS into your digital life? I've got two Android devices, as well as an iPod touch running iOS 7, and believe it or not, I like it. Sure, I don't like Apple's walled garden ecosystem, but it's no different than Amazon locking down our own Kindles.
I digress, but my point is, don't knock it until you try it. We are a community of developers, and our main goal is to make our devices better in ways the original developers didn't. If one person decides he wants port iOS to our Kindles, who are we to judge him? Even if it isn't possible, what reason it's that to ridicule him/her?
As much as I love it here at XDA,I have to admit that I am a bit ashamed of the single-mindedness that Android is superior to all mobile operating systems (yes we have forums for some others, but still).
>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.4... or maybe it's a rooted Kindle Fire HD running CyanogenMod 11<<<

Ph0enix_216 said:
One question.
Of all of you who are dissing the OP, his/her idea, and iOS itself, how many of you actually tried it? And by try it, I don't mean glance at your friends iPhone and called it crap. How many of you have used it for at least a week, integrating iOS into your digital life?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me.

Lol @ iOS on Android. Android is superior to iOS in every way. No offense to those who like iOS and their inferior products...
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

A developer going by the name of winocm has a modified XNU kernel that can boot on most devices with an arm processor.
Sent from my KFSOWI, 11.3.2.1, rooted, Amazon stuff replaced with Google Services.