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DO NOT complicate this with the screen separation issue, my device does not have this issue.
When on a black screen when pressing the devices screen, it does not have to be hard just medium, the screen will flex causing the display below to ripple. It reminds me of the HTC One X screen flex issue at the top ends of the device where it was curved.
I have made a video showing my findings, I know at times it looks like I'm pressing extremely hard on the screen, I'm not its just because I was on a soft surface and so the device pushed into the bed. :angel:
Oh and your probably better watching it in full screen, just watched it embedded on here myself and it's hard to see
It's a TOUCH screen not a PRESS screen. Be gentle... you meanie!
I saw what you meant once in that video, but it did look like you pressed pretty hard. I tried to replicate it to no avail. Sorry.
wasnt said:
It's a TOUCH screen not a PRESS screen. Be gentle... you meanie!
I saw what you meant once in that video, but it did look like you pressed pretty hard. I tried to replicate it to no avail. Sorry.
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I know I know, honestly though I promise you I was not pressing hard. Honest truth I noticed this issue because I held the device with one hand, and I was NOT pushing hard.
I've noticed this minor issue on mine, but on the left hand side of the screen. Doesn't bother me too much.
It probably happens because your device has the screen lift too? or the screws are loose.
As before I did the washer trick my screen also did this on the left side only, it was spongy too, once I did the washer trick it didn't do it again. :good:
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I've noticed this minor issue on mine, but on the left hand side of the screen. Doesn't bother me too much.
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Yeah I don't really see it as an issue, as long as my device works that's all I'm bothered about and I mainly use my iPad anyway.
spooke said:
It probably happens because your device has the screen lift too? or the screws are loose.
As before I did the washer trick my screen also did this on the left side only, it was spongy too, once I did the washer trick it didn't do it again. :good:
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Hmm, well the screen doesn't appear to be raised ANYWHERE and I only just got it yesterday (14th August).
My second/current one does this. But only on the left side. If you press on the black bezel around the screen on the bottom third. You'll get the ripple. Nowhere else though. And you have to press it pretty hard. It's not an issue.
No screen lift on this one. Screen lift was replaced by this ripple. That's actually how I noticed it, checking my new one for seperation, and spongy feel. Which it doesn't have.
Isn't this just a trait of LCD screens?
My One X has the same thing and has a Super LCD screen.
rohan32 said:
Isn't this just a trait of LCD screens?
My One X has the same thing and has a Super LCD screen.
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LCD is the screen itself, it is a trait however the bezel and glass should stop this from happening, because obviously if this happens a lot, then device is going to be damaged
wasnt said:
It's a TOUCH screen not a PRESS screen. Be gentle... you meanie!
I saw what you meant once in that video, but it did look like you pressed pretty hard. I tried to replicate it to no avail. Sorry.
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Yeah. If you see ripples, you are applying excessive pressure to the screen. This is standard for any LCD, not an issue.
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Yeah. If you see ripples, you are applying excessive pressure to the screen. This is standard for any LCD, not an issue.
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Well said. Not an issue.
Yeah, I'm saying that because my old laptops did the same thing when you touched the screen. Not a issue...
Phones have Glass over the screen. You don't actually touch the LCD. You have the LCD, then the digitizer, then the glass. So I think this is because the LCD is too close to the digitizer because of the screw issue. I had screen separation issues on the left side and this ripple. I made some "washers" using some medication foil packaging (3x) and not only did it fix the screen issue, but the screws are nice and tight (fixes squeaks) and pulls the screen down away from the digitizer so you don't get this effect.
Mine USED to do this (mostly on the left side) but now it doesn't after I put in those "washers". The bottom left is more sensitive still but requires lots of pressure still. If you press hard enough on the screen the LCD will still ripple.
RMA and chill.
I'm sorry but these threads are getting tiring now.
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Mine is mainly on the left side as well, its actually quire hard to recreate it on the right, though its possible. I'd just like to assure readers that I am not using excessive force on the screen at all, not even close. As I said, I can recreate this just by holding the tablet with one hand!
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wow, this has to be the biggest non issue for the nexus. it's a LCD if you press that hard of course the screen will ripple. yes the top is glass, but the nexus 7 screen uses a new process with less layers of glass to minimize thickness.
Do you have a laptop or lcd monitor? Press on the screen and see what happens.
OP you are pushing way too hard to simulate normal usage. The screen is covered in thin glass not bullet proof glass and if you push to hard it will flex and distort the black light and cause ripples.
Seriously this is a non issue.
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Yeh I got ripples if pushing to hard but had the common sense to understand this is not a fault its LDC my old omnia phone does it.
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there's also an issue if you throw your nexus 7 down some stairs it won't work
HAVE ANYONE FOUND A FIX!?!?!?!
Hey everyone.
A few months ago I dropped my phone for the first time. It turned out that the screen had gotten a large crack down through the middle, running all the way from the top to the bottom. I tried using it, and the touch capabilities didn't seem to be affected, so basically it was just cosmetic at first.
But this afternoon, after having used it lightly since morning without issues, the phone suddenly started responding weird to touch. Whenever I touch the screen, it registers touches all over the screen, and I'm not even able to dial in my pin code after rebooting.
Does anyone have an idea what might have happened, what is broken, and how much it will set me back to fix it?
BTW, the phone arrived with a red pixel, I noticed it once when booting up, but thought it was just a bug or something. Later I found out that is actually a fault with the phone, and most companies have dead pixel policies, I'm wondering, is it possible to return the phone for a new because of the red pixel?
Thank you for your time.
I think it will be a little hard to prove that dead pixel after being cracked. If you have some skills, you can change it yourself, its not very hard and you can find the screen on the internet.
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RuedasLocas said:
I think it will be a little hard to prove that dead pixel after being cracked. If you have some skills, you can change it yourself, its not very hard and you can find the screen on the internet.
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That does sound good, but aren't the glass (The outermost layer) and the touchscreen two different things entirely?
Thank you.
Well what do you know, it started working again! Well, atleast for now.
Thanks for the advice
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Does anyone have an idea what might have happened, what is broken,
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...I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's the huge crack down the middle of the screen? :good:
Seriously, though.. capacitive touch-screens measure changes in the resistance across a thin layer on top of the glass. So if you bend it somehow, or damage it (say, stretch it because the glass underneath cracks), then the resistance won't be picked up, or it will be registered inaccurately. So it might work for a while, or work reasonably well. Know a guy who smashed his iPhone.. sat on it, actually.. and it worked with "cracked" glass (that was held together by the layer on top of the glass, right) until he bought another iPhone. *shrug* He talked about it a lot, but it didn't seem to really make a difference on the actual phone.
Something for people to try:
See if you can keep the phone from sliding holding onto only the glass. So put your thumb on one side and your fingers on the other and pinch then hold the phone up vertical. Squeeze as hard as you want (but dont break the LCD), I bet nobody can keep the phone from slowly sliding down no matter how hard they try. I recommend holding it near the Nexus logo so you can see it move since it will be sliding very very slowly. Try both hands.
Ive noticed that this thing simply sticks to NOTHING, this Gorilla Glass 2 surface is very slippery and I wish they would have gone for something more grippy on the back since my phone has slid off things that are virtually flat a few times already. It seems like any amount of gravity will cause this thing to slide.
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Something for people to try:
See if you can keep the phone from sliding holding onto only the glass. So put your thumb on one side and your fingers on the other and pinch then hold the phone up vertical. Squeeze as hard as you want (but dont break the LCD), I bet nobody can keep the phone from slowly sliding down no matter how hard they try. I recommend holding it near the Nexus logo so you can see it move since it will be sliding very very slowly. Try both hands.
Ive noticed that this thing simply sticks to NOTHING, this Gorilla Glass 2 surface is very slippery and I wish they would have gone for something more grippy on the back since my phone has slid off things that are virtually flat a few times already.
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Yeah, the iPhone 4 and 4S had this problem too. If you went naked they would slide off anything and everything, even things you thought were flat. Hopefully invisible shield comes out with a back protector. I hate Invisible shields on the front because they're slightly tacky, but for the back it would be great at protecting and preventing the phone from sliding.
Isn't the glass suppose to be slippery? You want your finger to glide across it easily while using the phone. Not sure what the issue is, who grips their phone this way? If you do, stop it.
Not having any issue gripping the phone this way. On the other hand I have noticed the phone being susceptible to "death grip".
Yeah I've found on numerous occasions where I would set my phone down on what I THOUGHT was a flat surface, walk away and come back only to find my phone on the floor. This thing I'd crazy slippery. I'm picking up a bumper from someone off Craigslist tonight for a good deal and am hoping it will help at least a little.
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I can just say it again .. Bumper FTW!
But actually, these issues are crazy ... slippery phone .. what the heck.
Ravynmagi said:
Isn't the glass suppose to be slippery? You want your finger to glide across it easily while using the phone. Not sure what the issue is, who grips their phone this way? If you do, stop it.
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Not having any issue gripping the phone this way. On the other hand I have noticed the phone being susceptible to "death grip".
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"You're just holding it the wrong way!"
What's the death grip on the N4?
From iFixit's tear down they show contact points of the antennas in the upper third of the back plate. But they never took the back apart to see where the leads go. Is the death grip the top half of the phone? If so that's good, because with the size of the N4 people will most likely grip it along the bottom half and along the bottom edge.
I called it an issue, but I actually like it slippery in the back.
I totally love the feel of the phone. I just thought it was crazy how it would just slide off of seemingly flat surfaces. I had my closed laptop sitting on the dining room table, phone on top of the laptop. Walked away for a few minutes and came back to find the phone on the floor. Instantly blamed my wife. Lol.
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I did your test and my phone didn't move a cm...
I like it slippery in the back also
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Use a soap for oily skin.
trent25 said:
"You're just holding it the wrong way!"
What's the death grip on the N4?
From iFixit's tear down they show contact points of the antennas in the upper third of the back plate. But they never took the back apart to see where the leads go. Is the death grip the top half of the phone? If so that's good, because with the size of the N4 people will most likely grip it along the bottom half and along the bottom edge.
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I when I hold the phone 2 handed (eg when surfing the web) the bars drop dramatically and in places with weak signal just holding the phone (bottom half one handed like for a phone call) I'll completely lose signal. Actually I'd say in general, compared to my HD2 and Sensation the signal strength is poor on this phone.
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I when I hold the phone 2 handed (eg when surfing the web) the bars drop dramatically and in places with weak signal just holding the phone (bottom half one handed like for a phone call) I'll completely lose signal. Actually I'd say in general, compared to my HD2 and Sensation the signal strength is poor on this phone.
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x2. I am waiting it out to do more testing and see what happens with updates but I have also noticed the dramatic signal loss depending on how you hold the phone. At my house I consistantly get 2-3 bars on my Lumia 920 (and did on my S3, Note, etc). With the N4 I get 3 occasionally, but most of the tiem if I am holding the phone its at 1 bar, and if I hold it in certain ways loses signal all together.
My phone dropped too. Stupid slipper back
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sieudaochich said:
My phone dropped too. Stupid slipper back
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any damages?
idividebyzero said:
Try both hands.
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So we don't build muscle imbalance in our fingers?
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Nexus 4 said:
any damages?
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No visible damage at all, dropped twice. Once from chair height ~3 feet to wooden floor and once from ~1 foot.
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evostevo1 said:
I like it slippery in the back also
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I bet you do you randy sonofagun!
kinky!
mELIANTE said:
Use a soap for oily skin.
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i lawled. out of thanks, but yeah, thanks for the laff.
gtg465x said:
Yeah, the iPhone 4 and 4S had this problem too. If you went naked they would slide off anything and everything, even things you thought were flat. Hopefully invisible shield comes out with a back protector. I hate Invisible shields on the front because they're slightly tacky, but for the back it would be great at protecting and preventing the phone from sliding.
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Hi anyone tried gently pressing the left border of the screen and notice some LCD ripples whereas the right side isn't so obvious? Or isit just me and is this a care for concern? Appreciate ur replies thx!
I seriously dont understand any of you people. you are like the 5th one now? asking the same question over and over again. Its like a LCD/LED monitor, but without the "thin glass" surface.
its a screen with a thin glass surface, you press on it of course there's ripples or waves or whatever, like you want the phone screens to be made out of metal or super duper thick glass or something? and fyi when you use the terms gently, or gentle, or lightly press on the screen it doesnt mean you are pressing on it gently. Obviously you are pressing it hard enough to cause that ripple or waves effect. -.-
i can gently touch the monitor and see a little ripple effect, and i can do the same on the phone but see no ripple effect at all.
I believe most of you people are pressing on the screen too hard, learn to "touch" not "press." its touchscreen not press-screen.
PS: my apologies for the tone/choice of words used in this context, had a bad day.
PSS: but seriously its touchscreen not press-screen.
Thx sry as this is my first touch screen phone... But my question is, it isn't uniform... As 1 side is more obvious then the other. Is this a normal thing for the Xperia Z?
well nothing is perfect.
my z's back panel, upper right corner is sticking a bit out more than the rest of the corners.
Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4 and iPad doesn't get screen rippling.
I had this problem with the XZs I had but only on two later manufactured models. (I went through 8)
There must be something under the screen on the lower left which causes pressure thus making it easier to cause the ripple in that location.
Just dont have it in your back pocket and sit on it.
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When my phone is laying flat on a table the touch sensitivity is very poor, at least around the edges. I can't pull down the notification bar and the nav bar is near unresponsive. It almost feels like it's some sort of feature to prevent accidental touches, if you know what I mean. Has anyone else experienced this? There is no issue when holding it normally in my hand.
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fictionoid said:
When my phone is laying flat on a table the touch sensitivity is very poor, at least around the edges. I can't pull down the notification bar and the nav bar is near unresponsive. It almost feels like it's some sort of feature to prevent accidental touches, if you know what I mean. Has anyone else experienced this? There is no issue when holding it normally in my hand.
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I just tried it...yeah, it happens on mine as well. I guess it has to do with the curved back no biggie. I normally lay it down on my wallet with Skip inside. So I have never even noticed this
Yeah, not really much of a concern for me either. Just curious if others had experienced it or if anyone knew why it happened. Interesting idea with the skip/wallet setup.
fictionoid said:
When my phone is laying flat on a table the touch sensitivity is very poor, at least around the edges. I can't pull down the notification bar and the nav bar is near unresponsive. It almost feels like it's some sort of feature to prevent accidental touches, if you know what I mean. Has anyone else experienced this? There is no issue when holding it normally in my hand.
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Good to know it's not just mine. Did you have a screen protector on when you tried this?
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Good to know it's not just mine. Did you have a screen protector on when you tried this?
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Yes, actually. I have the thick shock protection sold on the Motorola site. I have been meaning to test it without but have been waiting to get a new protector to replace it however. I really don't like this protector and hope the touch sensitivity gets better once it's gone. I have just been lazy in looking for a new one.
I cannot detect any loss in sensitivity when my phone is laying on my desk. I am not using a screen protector at all.
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I cannot detect any loss in sensitivity when my phone is laying on my desk. I am not using a screen protector at all.
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No problems pulling down the notification bar? Also can you try installing the following app and drawing lines from the center of the screen all the way up to the top of the screen? Does the line go all the way up or does it end slightly before the edge of the touchscreen?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=proscio.app.nickypaint&hl=en
Thanks.
Yep noticed this as well. Mainly on the home button. Back and recents seem responsive enough, but if it's laying on my desk or floor, home is almost non-existent. Gets to be pretty frustrating.
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No problems pulling down the notification bar? Also can you try installing the following app and drawing lines from the center of the screen all the way up to the top of the screen? Does the line go all the way up or does it end slightly before the edge of the touchscreen?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=proscio.app.nickypaint&hl=en
Thanks.
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No problem with the notification bar at all. I tried it all along the top, it works perfect every time, fast or slow movement makes no difference.
Might try the app later but I just gave it another good test and it performed perfectly, even if I barely touch the screen.
Yeah... Mine is fine too. No screen protector.
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I replaced my screen protector. MUCH better.
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It happens every once and a while. I got a otterbox self healing screen protector
Just tried it on mine with no screen protector and I am getting the same as the OP.
It's funny because usually I sit it flat while I am on the couch - must be the soft surface and the curved back which means it works fine, but you're right on the hard table surface it's noticeable.