Hi, I'm Just doing some test's on kernel. I am running Franco Kernel M1. I get about 4-5 hours of screen time, and when the phone is idleing it barley drains any battery. Here are my Values. Post your values and battery life, and name which kernel you have
384 Mhz - 725mV
486 MHz - 750 mV
594 MHz - 775 mV
702 MHz - 800 mV
1026 MHz - 900mV
1188 MHz - 975 mv
1350 MHz - 1000mV
1512 Mhz - 1025 mV
Are you sure you are not getting 11 hours SCREEN ON time?
Underground_XI said:
Are you sure you are not getting 11 hours SCREEN ON time?
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Well I just flashed it new ( about 2 days now) I get various readings every day
I'm using PA and Franco's r111 kernel. I am UV 150mv and get about 5-6 SOT all the time. I'm mostly on WiFi and use data occasionally during classes.
Its crazy how you get 6+ SOT. Do you use your phone or just stare at it?
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Nice thread, I'm currently running stock and have been curious on which kernel to run. I see a lot of people mentioning Franco, I suppose I'll give it a shot.
Using Franco Kernel 117 and PA rom...Very happy with everything, especially battery life and speed.
Matr1x. Smooth even at 700 MHz and has no pointless UV restriction.
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So as i see after using a phone with one kernel only with o/c and nothing more i will flash franco!!
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I don't have data . When I'm not using WiFi I usually turn it off
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Tried 'em all, but stick with Matr1x.
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Tried them all found matrix 8oc to work for me but trying this angelakernal motley kernel.So far same or better then matrix for me on aosp.No under clocking no micro stutters and really good battery so far...
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I think i have to do much of a tests cause im used to laggy sh1tty performance on my old device and it will be dificult to notice lags when you have lag everywhere!!
whatever you do, dont flash trinity kernel. it lacks buzzwords, and you might enjoy it. and we cant have that
Trinity nuff said
7-9Hrs SOT is just too much..
Hmmm... I just got my Nexus 4 a couple of days ago and was hoping that this thread would provide a definitive answer as to which kernel was the best. I should have known better.
Looks like I've got some experimenting to do. I'll probably start with the Franco Kernel as it seems to be the most popular.
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Hmmm... I just got my Nexus 4 a couple of days ago and was hoping that this thread would provide a definitive answer as to which kernel was the best. I should have known better.
Looks like I've got some experimenting to do. I'll probably start with the Franco Kernel as it seems to be the most popular.
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theres no such thing as best kernel. theres only what is best for your needs and for your device. thats why these threads arent allowed. you have to experiment and find whats best for you.
I agree with Simms . There really isn't a best kernel because some people favor performance over battery, and remember every device is acts differently
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I get about 7-9 hours of screen time
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Screenshot or it didn´t happen
Sak3ater said:
7-9Hrs SOT is just too much..
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Obviously the op is trolling.
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Screenshot or it didn´t happen
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Lol of course there is no screenshot.
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dia_naji said:
I agree with Simms . There really isn't a best kernel because some people favor performance over battery, and remember every device is acts differently
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We are still looking forward to seeing those 9 hours screen time.
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Since every Ace is different and I just started messing with OC, whats your stable frequency? Mines is 844 D:
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Mine is 864MHz at 906 it turns off after 10 mins and is verrry HOT!
906mhz with very minor excess heating :laugh:
Mine is 921. it drains battery too fast but the speed is awesom
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Mine runs on 844Mhz and works smooth. Gets a little heated when playing HD games (NFS Shift) otherwise stable.
Battery usage is kinda ok as it is supposed to drain battery at OC
Aww mann I'm jealous of all you guys running on 900 D: mine reboots when I set it that high. Then freezes at 883 and apps crash at 864. Can that be changed with the kernel? Or is it still Ace specific?
Be very careful when OCing though. It can fry up the internal hardware.
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Mine is pretty stable at 902Mhz... Very little heating and fully stable
My stable OC is 960Mhz.
979 = only last for 1 hour....then reboot
998 = last for 2 min(playing games) and reboot
1000++ = reboot after selecting those frequency
921Mhz for me
This was sent from a Galaxy Ace.
So any of you guys think this is kernel related or just Ace specific?
i think its ace specific....
i mean....2 same phone using same kernel, but different OC limit???
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So any of you guys think this is kernel related or just Ace specific?
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None....Its CPU specific.Its just like buying things from a store,sometimes you get faulty products,sometimes you get the best.BESIDES,some say that our CPU is factory OCed,but no one is sure about it :/ And,its just an armv6 obsolete **** We are still stuck in the 19th century
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i think its ace specific....
i mean....2 same phone using same kernel, but different OC limit???
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U should seriously do more searching and reading on the matter.
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None....Its CPU specific.Its just like buying things from a store,sometimes you get faulty products,sometimes you get the best.BESIDES,some say that our CPU is factory OCed,but no one is sure about it :/ And,its just an armv6 obsolete **** We are still stuck in the 19th century
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Oh okay. I thought so. But doesn't switching to different kernels alter that pattern? Or the kernel simply allows the phone to go that high?
I have used the cf54 or 84 I think Kernel and [email protected] kernel and I was able to overclock until 1.25Hgz on the latter though I was unable to take it to 844 on the stock one.
Hence I would say that the Kernel would play a role in the OC limit of the ace. Having said that, I might be incorrect as I did flash custom ROM along with [email protected] which could play a role in the OC factor too.
Someone with moreprecise clarification ?
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I have used the cf54 or 84 I think Kernel and [email protected] kernel and I was able to overclock until 1.25Hgz on the latter though I was unable to take it to 844 on the stock one.
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WTF how did you get 1.25ghz thats impossible ....
OR NOT WHO KNOWS
Man can you please post screenies of your 1.25GHz overclock!If it's true it's EPIC!=D
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I have used the cf54 or 84 I think Kernel and [email protected] kernel and I was able to overclock until 1.25Hgz on the latter though I was unable to take it to 844 on the stock one.
Hence I would say that the Kernel would play a role in the OC limit of the ace. Having said that, I might be incorrect as I did flash custom ROM along with [email protected] which could play a role in the OC factor too.
Someone with moreprecise clarification ?
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I don't believe you. The Ace is already OCed from factory. It can barely reach 900Mhz as it is and only for few.
But if you did, I'm surprised you're still using your phone to this day without a fried motherboard.
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Oh okay. I thought so. But doesn't switching to different kernels alter that pattern? Or the kernel simply allows the phone to go that high?
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Partly.Kernels like Cf-root are basic kernels,even Chainfire himself says so.It just takes him 5 minutes to build a cf-root kernel(What he said in an interview)..Kernels to "some extend" define it but the final decision-maker is the CPU.
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Man can you please post screenies of your 1.25GHz overclock!If it's true it's EPIC!=D
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I don't think its true.....Because Ace is clocked at 800Mhz,that too factory OCed from 600Mhz.Also,our CPU is armv6,so its "PRACTICALLY" impossible to OC to such a high limit.
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Partly.Kernels like Cf-root are basic kernels,even Chainfire himself says so.It just takes him 5 minutes to build a cf-root kernel(What he said in an interview)..Kernels to "some extend" define it but the final decision-maker is the CPU.
I can get 902 mhz on CF root,But on delano 998 Is somewhat stable.so yes kernels play a role in this.
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I don't think its true.....Because Ace is clocked at 800Mhz,that too factory OCed from 600Mhz.Also,our CPU is armv6,so its "PRACTICALLY" impossible to OC to such a high limit.
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Armv6 doesnt make a difference.E.G. look at SG3,armv6 cpu but almost every SG3 reaches 1200 mhz 100% stable(Few reach even 1400).1.25 ghz=1036mhz,which is available freq. in ketut's blackhawk kernel so MIGHT be achievable.And Ace's cpu is 'turbo' msm7227,means can maintain 800mhz clock for longer time with less heat/at no extra voltage, not that it is oc'd 800 mhz.But I can be wrong
[GUIDE] *19/8 UPDATE!* 4.3 RESULTS! N7 'Best' Kernel (Performance & Battery Tests)
A lot of people have been posting in these forums, "Which kernel is the best"?
I was intrigued and decided to work this out for myself and share it with the rest of the community.
This is not meant to hurt the makers of these kernels.
But FIRST, it is not a fact that there is a 'best' kernel. 'Best' is an opinion and everyone has a different opinion.
On the Nexus 7, I personally believe there is no 'bad' kernel and none of these kernels I have tested perform badly or lag heaps.
People still like to push their N7's as hard as they can though.
The Main 2 Features people look for in a kernel are:
Performance & Battery Life
Some people prefer performance over Battery, or vice versa, or an all-round kernel.
NEXUS 7
8GB
Paranoid Android AOSPAL 3.97
KERNELS
Kernel[022]JB4.3(1.60Ghz Quad)UV,CIFS+UTF-8,PowerHAL,Linux-3.x Hybrid]
by faux123
Ultimate Edition 22
[KERNEL][GPL][N7] franco.Kernel - r75
by franciscofranco
r75
[KERNEL] [ANDROID 4.3] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V2.0, 8/2/13]
by azoller1
Version 2
[Kernel][4.2.2] M-Kernel - a61[WiFi/3G]
by Metallice
a61
[KERNEL] [3.1.10] [JB 4.3/4.2.2] [Purified Kernel r130] [Linaro] [07-08-2013]
by eng.stk
r130
[KERNEL] [GROUPER/TILAPIA] [4.2.2/4.3] OXYDO [3.2.49] [Linaro]
by sgt. meow
v7
[KERNEL][Grouper][JB 4.3] 3.1.12-XPerience-04 [12/08/13]
by TeamMex
v4
[KERNEL] Bricked-Kernel Grouper/Tilapia
by show-p1984
4.3 Stock Kernel
I will test another kernel if someone requests me too. I will not post other's results because they most likely have a different setup and therefore different results making it inaccurate.
NEW! 4.3 RESULTS
19/8 UPDATE
PERFORMANCE
Performance was tested with Antutu. Tested three times and averaged.
1.3 RESULTS
Kernels set to 1.3GHz max and used the default governor for the test.
1. M-Kernel: 13489
2. Franco: 13440
3. LeanKernel: 13298
4. Bricked: 13194
5. Oxydo: 13179
6. Xperience: 13139
7. Faux: 13122
8. Purified: 13102
9. Stock: 12903
MAX RESULTS
Kernels set to highest clockspeed, performance governor.
1. Bricked (1.6): 15339
2. Oxydo (1.6): 14938
3. M-Kernel (1.7): 14463
4. LeanKernel (1.5): 14343
5. Faux (1.7): 14155
6. Xperience (1.6):14147
7. Franco (1.3): 13440
8. Purified (1.3): 13102
9, Stock (1.3): 12903
BATTERY LIFE
Default Governor, 100% Brightness
Watching HD 720p Video on a Loop (MX Player Software Decoding) in a 10% range. The reason for this is not to kill my battery lifetime.
Max Freq at stock speed (1.3GHz)
1. M-Kernel:7 hours 5 minutes
2. Oxydo: 7 hours
3. LeanKernel: 6 hours 20 minutes
4. Franco: 5 hours 50 minutes
5. Purified: 5 hours 35 minutes
6. Xperience: 5 hours 30 minutes
7. Faux: 5 hours 10 minutes
8. Bricked: 5 hours 5 minutes
9. Stock: 5 hours
Max Freq set as high as it can go.
1. LeanKernel (1.5): 6 hours
2. Franco (1.3): 5 hours 50 minutes
3. Purified (1.3): 5 hours 35 minutes
4. M-Kernel (1.7):5 hours 25 minutes
5. Oxydo (1.6): 5 hours 10 minutes
6. Stock (1.3): 5 hours
7. Bricked (1.6): 4 hours 55 minutes
8. Xperience (1.6): 4 hours 45 minutes
9. Faux (1.6): 4 hours 40 minutes
OVERALL
Best Performance:
[KERNEL] Bricked-Kernel Grouper/Tilapia
by show-p1984
[Kernel][4.2.2] M-Kernel - a61[WiFi/3G]
by Metallice
a61
Best Battery Life:
[KERNEL] [ANDROID 4.3] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V2.0, 8/2/13]
by azoller1
Version 2
Best Overall:
[Kernel][4.2.2] M-Kernel - a61[WiFi/3G]
by Metallice
a61
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950858"][KERNEL] [ANDROID 4.3] LeanKernel: Minimalistic Kernel [V2.0, 8/2/13]
by azoller1
Version 2
[/URL]
4.3 Results
Nice! This should be a sticky to help reduce unnecessary threads about kernels. My only suggestion would be to run Quadrant 3 times and take the average number. Only because 3 runs will have different results every time
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Best battery life can't really be determined since everyone uses their tablet differently i wouldn't even waste my time.
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I am testing several kernels here. The fastest for me so far is trinity, but the battery is draining really fast. I then tried the 1400 MHz trinity and things got a little better with a good performance in quadrant.
I am testing motley now and seems good but a little slower than trinity. Home screen doesn't look as buttery as in trinity. I will keep testing a little longer.
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Crap...i just had a reboot while using motley and started playing dead trigger. I returned to trinity 111 and it is definitely smoother than the others for me. Maybe it is because it is the first one i flashed and now when i try others, even wiping, something remains and the other kernels don't work right. Who knows....
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Best battery life can't really be determined since everyone uses their tablet differently i wouldn't even waste my time.
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I was going to do a HD video playback test. See how long it lasts on each.
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Can't wait for the battery life results!
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I posted about the so called battery life screen shot thread in there thread.
the only way to really test battery life is to start with ful ly charged battery each day. 1 TEST PER DAY or charge cycle.
you will have to get a mathematical equation figured out first .it would have to be something like
cpu cycles x screen brightness x memory usage and s on divided by then another equation to determined battery pull watts im guessing
you would have to keep the first exact on each test device to determine the battery life ..
ok while typing this i have decided its way over my head and quite honestly not sure it can be done ..
HELP My brain now hurts ..
The best way to test CPU performance would be to make sure that all kernels are at the same exact core frequency max, and all cores enabled, on performance governor. Performance governor alone doesn't enable all cores, and benchmarks sometimes don't trigger all 4 cores as on either (it can, but not always, and that can lead to totally different numbers on different kernels).
Some kernels have higher max frequencies then others, some use the new CPU quiet driver and some don't (although this wouldn't really matter if all cores are forced on for testing).
Some kernels have higher GPU clocks then others, some have higher refresh rates then others, some have both higher refresh rates and clocks, etc.
Personally, the best way to judge a kernel is by what features are implemented in it for example, is it linaro compiled? Does it use the old hotplug method for CPU cores, or the new quiet driver? Updated WiFi driver? fsync toggle? Was it built with RNDIS drivers?
Quadrant isn't a stable means of benchmarking (run it 3 times in a row and watch those numbers change), but generally speaking, if the same kernel is compiled with linaro, vs no linaro, the linaro build would be faster (don't quote me on this). Not all those kernels are linaro that I'm aware of.
Also, Jay's buttery smooth tweaks, his fsync doesn't work on franco.Kernel. That kernel specifically uses a different command to toggle fsync, and unless that method was used, any I/O results would be void (basically comparing fsync kernels to non-fsync, where fsync would obviously dominate). And there is even the possibility the ROM you were using may interfere with CPU clocks and voltages unknowingly.
So with all that said, trying to find the "best" kernel, is going to take a bit more effort then just benching with Quadrant
And for my own personal opinion (no hard-testing done) I like franco.Kernel Stock clocks and voltage, fsync toggle, new CPU quiet driver and WiFi driver, works awesomely faux's kernel would be my second preferred kernel, only because lack of fsync control, and getting rid of the CPU quiet driver.
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The best way to test CPU performance would be to make sure that all kernels are at the same exact core frequency max, and all cores enabled, on performance governor. Performance governor alone doesn't enable all cores, and benchmarks sometimes don't trigger all 4 cores as on either (it can, but not always, and that can lead to totally different numbers on different kernels).
Some kernels have higher max frequencies then others, some use the new CPU quiet driver and some don't (although this wouldn't really matter if all cores are forced on for testing).
Some kernels have higher GPU clocks then others, some have higher refresh rates then others, some have both higher refresh rated,
Personally, the best way to judge a kernel is by what features are implemented in it for example, is it linaro compiled? Does it use the old hotplug method for CPU cores, or the new quiet driver? Updated WiFi driver? fsync toggle? Was it built with RNDIS drivers?
Quadrant isn't a stable means of benchmarking (run it 3 times in a row and watch those numbers change), but generally speaking, if the same kernel is compiled with linaro, vs no linaro, the linaro build would be faster (don't quote me on this). Not all those kernels are linaro that I'm aware of.
Also, Jay's buttery smooth tweaks, his fsync doesn't work on franco.Kernel. That kernel specifically uses a different command to toggle fsync, and unless that method was used, any I/O results would be void (basically comparing fsync kernels to non-fsync, where fsync would obviously dominate). And there is even the possibility the ROM you were using may interfere with CPU clocks and voltages unknowingly.
So with all that said, trying to find the "best" kernel, is going to take a bit more effort then just benching with Quadrant
And for my own personal opinion (no hard-testing done) I like franco.Kernel Stock clocks and voltage, fsync toggle, new CPU quiet driver and WiFi driver, works awesomely faux's kernel would be my second preferred kernel, only because lack of fsync control, and getting rid of the CPU quiet driver.
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Yeah. I know. I'm going to add a other features section. If someone else could do it that would be good. If not, I'll do it later.
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I was going to do a HD video playback test. See how long it lasts on each.
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Who JUST watches video... would be as effective as leaving it on a white screen for hours. Like I said there is no point and would just give false hope.
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Used Motleys 520 at first, probably still my favorite. Used trinity and both of clemsyns latest. Clemsyns elite 1.8 got too hot for my liking, I'm using the 1.5 UV right now and batteries not too great, but its very smooth. Trinity is smooth as well but Motleys 520 seemed to both perform better and give better battery life at comparable clock speeds to the rest.
So Motleys will be my daily, but I refuse to stop flashing!
this is very helpfully
thanx
Hey Guys! I have been running some battery tests over the last week. I'm finishing the results now. Show you guys soon!
Battery Tests are in the OP! Check them out, give your own opinion!
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Battery Tests are in the OP! Check them out, give your own opinion!
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Interesting... not what I expected.
They varied so much did you use all the same governor? Stock is interactive. All the same I/O? That is quite a difference a shocking one at that.
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Interesting... not what I expected.
They varied so much did you use all the same governor? Stock is interactive. All the same I/O? That is quite a difference a shocking one at that.
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Yeah. I used interactive on all of them. Set the minimum at the lowest it could go and the max as high as it could go on each kernel.
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Yeah. I used interactive on all of them. Set the minimum at the lowest it could go and the max as high as it could go on each kernel.
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-_- that's not fair.... nobody uses the absolute high... redo... at stock frequency.
You can't tell which is best if they are not under the same circumstances. Obviously Franco is top because his only goes to 1.3 which is stock. While others are over clocked... thats unreliable.
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-_- that's not fair.... nobody uses the absolute high... redo... at stock frequency.
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All of them at 1.3GHz Max? Whats the point of overclocking then?
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All of them at 1.3GHz Max? Whats the point of overclocking then?
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For benchmarks... not battery performance.
So your telling me the benchmarks where at different frequencies too? Wow have you never done a science expierenment? You don't test under different variables... that's inconsistent.
That's like frying an egg at 100F and comparing it to frying it at 120F. Obviously the 120F will fry faster. Cmon man.
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For benchmarks... not battery performance.
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Yeah. I guess... I was going to try Motley at 1.3 for fun anyway. See how I do...
Hi everyone, I'm thinking of buying the 4XHD as I can get it for a very good price (far cheaper than the one x or S3).
I have a few questions about the phone though, and reading the forums brought up more questions.
1. Are there actually any Kernels or Roms for the phone as I cant find any in the developer section and has the phone actually got a unlocked bootloader as some people said they had, others they hadn't.
2. What are the chances of the phone either getting an official 4.1 update or getting an unlocked bootloader (I can't tell if it already is) with which a custom 4.1 ROM can be flashed onto the phone.
3. How well does the 4XHD actually do in games as in my research I found one thread about lag and that is all. How do games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed: Most Wanted play? On the nexus 7, nova 3 (without custom kernel) was really laggy and I'm wondering how it will perform on the 4XHD.
4. Secondly, without a new Kernel being developed, is there currently anyway to overclock the GPU in the phone as I have read on one post about changing the kernel governor (here) or is this just using SetCPU?
5. Regarding SetCPU, does it help out with gaming performance the same way it helped out the One X (or was that purely because the one x used the Ondemand governor, which performs worse than the Interactive governor of the stock 4XHD)?
Thankyou everyone for reading this.
There are no Rom or kernels but u can under clock the CPU and i use no frills CPU to have the phone running. On 760 MHz and 51 and it performs well for gaming I just put it on the highest and no lag. I would install a CPU app because it seems that without it on it when u listen to music it skips quite frequently with screen of but with an CPU manager it is fixed even on 51 it won't skip. Other then that. I do not have any of the lag other report. It is a very capable phone. I would not install setcpu it does not seem to stick and work right. I tried to set it back to 1500 with setcpu and it stopped at 1ghz but no frills CPU works with no issue. I hope that helps u somewhat.
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Thanks, if you are using Nofrills and you set the min CPU clock higher does this actually translate into better gaming performance (does it change the governor and the GPU performance ) or is it just better for saving battery life when you don't need high performance? Do you actually need any extra speed or is it fine in games - the one x, even taking into consideration the larger user base, there seems to be far more laggy games complaints.
Yes I set it too 1500 min and max and i have no lag I also select governor power no lag. I hope it works for. Don't forget after done with gaming to change the CPU back to how busy want it and also not to use power because then I always stays at the possible highest CPU u selected.
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For gaming do performance otherwise do not. And the hox seems to still have a less optimize tegra 3 supports in it. The 4x hd is faster.
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Also u might wanna consider when playing games to like really turn everything off so u want sync with anything or text really I know it sucks but turning of dta and cellular and then playing games will make for no lag also make sure u pretty much cleared all running apps as well.
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Ok Thanks, that basically answers all of my concerns. I,m not too sure about getting 4.1 (Custom ROM or not) but it isn't that necessary. 4.0 is still great.
hi
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Hi everyone, I'm thinking of buying the 4XHD as I can get it for a very good price (far cheaper than the one x or S3).
I have a few questions about the phone though, and reading the forums brought up more questions.
1. Are there actually any Kernels or Roms for the phone as I cant find any in the developer section and has the phone actually got a unlocked bootloader as some people said they had, others they hadn't.
2. What are the chances of the phone either getting an official 4.1 update or getting an unlocked bootloader (I can't tell if it already is) with which a custom 4.1 ROM can be flashed onto the phone.
3. How well does the 4XHD actually do in games as in my research I found one thread about lag and that is all. How do games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed: Most Wanted play? On the nexus 7, nova 3 (without custom kernel) was really laggy and I'm wondering how it will perform on the 4XHD.
4. Secondly, without a new Kernel being developed, is there currently anyway to overclock the GPU in the phone as I have read on one post about changing the kernel governor (here) or is this just using SetCPU?
5. Regarding SetCPU, does it help out with gaming performance the same way it helped out the One X (or was that purely because the one x used the Ondemand governor, which performs worse than the Interactive governor of the stock 4XHD)?
Thankyou everyone for reading this.
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buy it , its great piece of smartphone
Does any 1 knows a kernel especially good for gaming
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Does any 1 knows a kernel especially good for gaming
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im not that experienced. but since 3 days that i was reading all threads around , i figured that werewolf kernel has the top cpu + gpu overclocking. though by default is set at some medium values or you could use the phone to keep u warm in the winter.
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also because im an overclocking maniac and my pc is already 50% overclocked with liquid cpu cooler and more 6 air coolers, keep in mind that u cant overclock any machine more than 20% which is stable. so the max stable overclocking for our optimus cpu is to go to 1700. but thats the MAXIMUM stable. maximum means that it will get high temperature which is bad. but its ok. the optimus has functions that lower the cpu automatically so it cool again. If u connect the phone to charge it and play a game with 1700 cpu frequency it will get to max temperature in some minutes. so u wont be able to get any better perfomance from that. RESULTING: To overclock any machine u need to find a way to keep it cold. if the machine is cold then u can overclock as much u want. the phone doesnt have a way to keep cold, except if u hug an air-condition.
Thankyou verymuch for explaining but is there a possible way to make our phone cooler just like a pc fan cools the pc?
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darkren said:
Thankyou verymuch for explaining but is there a possible way to make our phone cooler just like a pc fan cools the pc?
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Some people have claimed getting a new non lg battery reduces heat because our battery is wrapped with a plastic that does not disperse hear well
Also others have bought graphite sheets
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darkren said:
Thankyou verymuch for explaining but is there a possible way to make our phone cooler just like a pc fan cools the pc?
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only 2. one is to be always next to an air-condition and the other is underclocking not overclocking. its impossible to overclock a phone to play smoother games and also keep it cool. its not like you can open it and put a fan inside all this overclocking thing is useful only if u wanna have some live wallpaper + many widgets running smoothly.
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Some people have claimed getting a new non lg battery reduces heat because our battery is wrapped with a plastic that does not disperse hear well
Also others have bought graphite sheets
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imho : it's not the battery that become hotter.. it's the cpu & gpu.. the battery position is below the LG logo..
you can feel the hot area is upper side of the LG logo...that's where the cpu placed..
trikomlabs said:
imho : it's not the battery that become hotter.. it's the cpu & gpu.. the battery position is below the LG logo..
you can feel the hot area is upper side of the LG logo...that's where the cpu placed..
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Sorry I meant that the battery does not disperse heat well that why it keeps the phone is hotter for a longer period of time
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You can always play inside a refrigerator...
... or remove the back cover and play without it (be careful for the battery won't fall out). Won't do MUCH difference tho..
I use wolfs 008b kernel on latest stable cyanogenmod with very good results for gamming.
I even play games underclocked @1200 and all games run smooth.
You can always tweak a lot of settings using trickster mod. I use a combo of weathley / row @1200 all the rest at default settings
Please don't open "best kernel/ROM/mod/...." threads. There is no best kernel, ROM,...
Every kernel/ROM has it's good and bad sides. Decide yourself
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Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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But benchmarks man....Seriously though the phone is screaming fast so I say let it save some battery by throttling down.
Every phone, including the Iphone throttles. Unless there is evidence that N5 throttles a lot more than other S800 phone in non-benchmark tasks this is nothing to worry about imo.
Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Samsung ones especially....
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
I have now played many games on my Nexus 5 and I haven't noticed any impact on the performance when playing for long periods of time. Whereas Nexus 4 would slow down dramatically once the throttling comes.
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
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Funny, my gnex is just as smooth as the new n5. Gnex is running 4.3.1, but I also loaded a couple kk roms and also just as smooth as the n5. Doesn't take much to run an android os, but other things go a helluva lot faster on the n5 with the 4 cores and faster clock speeds.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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SetCpu works like a charm.
I've only made 3 conditions for it.
when locked: 300/300
chrome: 300/1200
otherwise: 300/800
What's amazingly surprising is the phone is still very snappy with these frequencies. Sometimes I disable the profiles just to play around but when I'm looking for battery savings I enable them.
With stability test only 30 seconds for the CPU to drop to 1119 Mhz
jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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I only care about throttling if it affects overall performance. So far users report smooth browsing and gaming in the most demanding situations, so it's cool. Nexus devices never fared well at benchmarks anyway.
Another dissapointing... I suppose this is what they were talking about when said "power saving".
PD: Cooltool + setcpu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRcTxaWd24
check that if you want to see the effect of throttling in gaming
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Do you pull half the fuel injector harnesses out in your car to?
The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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Yes that's true ,
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That's the problem with having more cores, developers are still making things for older (and more prevalent) hardware. Same thing happened in the early days of multi-core CPUs in computers as well. To begin with you got far worse performance on a dual core 1.5Ghz machine than on a single core with 2Ghz because the OS and applications didn't use the second core. Fortunately phone evolution is way faster and I expect games and apps to take advantage of all the cores much sooner than it happened on PC.
As on the nexus 4, I have no doubt that we will be able to turn off thermal throttling with custom kernels
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