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After doing some google searches and reading many "this is not possible" responses, I thought I would pose the question to our esteemed forum members, possibly hoping for a "yes",
Is there a way to change the vertical scroll bar location to the left-hand side of the screen for us lefties?
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trivguy said:
After doing some google searches and reading many "this is not possible" responses, I thought I would pose the question to our esteemed forum members, possibly hoping for a "yes",
Is there a way to change the vertical scroll bar location to the left-hand side of the screen for us lefties?
Thanks
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nope, sorry
worth a shot......thanks
the scrolley is already on the left side.
kareem9nba said:
the scrolley is already on the left side.
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He meant the scroll bar, not the scroll wheel.
yeah, i am left handed to and would love to see how this solved...
ftouchflo
why dont you use ftouchflo?I am lefthanded and it seems easy to use it, the downside is that you cant use transcriber anymore
I'm glad this has come up, as it has been a constant annoyance for years. Why is left handed operation available in landscape mode but not portrait? I don't believe it can't be done, but I don't have the know how to even begin to try it.
Hopefully somebody out there can have a go.
Just use the default TouchFlo method. After getting used to it, I find myself forgetting about the scroll bars from time to time. (I'm a lefty, by the way.)
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool
Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!
What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !
Just give it a small kick upwards
Dont let this topic die?
I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?
I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur
Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.
YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss
Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!
A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur
Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.
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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur
i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
aydc said:
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.
I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!
CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
I just had a question about my notification bar having these weird artifacts on it. I doubt it's the display since it shows on the picture I posted. Any ideas or suggestions as to what it might be?
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I just had a question about my notification bar having these weird artifacts on it. I doubt it's the display since it shows on the picture I posted. Any ideas or suggestions as to what it might be?
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That slightly lighter area with AT&T on it and the line under it? That's the bottom of the "window shade" - the notification pulldown. You can push the notification pulldown back up from there.
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That slightly lighter area with AT&T on it and the line under it? That's the bottom of the "window shade" - the notification pulldown. You can push the notification pulldown back up from there.
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Unfortunately not quite. I was referring to those two light Grey lines on the very corner of the pull pull down bar.
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Unfortunately not quite. I was referring to those two light Grey lines on the very corner of the pull pull down bar.
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They just mark the space between them where there might be more information sometimes. It is normal.
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They just mark the space between them where there might be more information sometimes. It is normal.
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Explain this please, because they're two crooked barely visible lines. I don't see how this could be normal or even what it means. And although your response seemed educated I have no idea what your talking about so that doesn't really help.
There's nothing really visible in your picture, even when I fully exppand it. The arrow seems to be pointing to the top line. So I put on my reading glasses and my 20X magnifier (the one I use for working on microcircuits) and looked at my screen. Nothing there but the top line, an area slightly less dark than the area above the line and the bottom line. If your eyes are really that much better than mine, I can borrow a good microscope from the university and look at a pixel level, but I think what you're seeing is an artifact or dirt.
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Explain this please, because they're two crooked barely visible lines. I don't see how this could be normal or even what it means. And although your response seemed educated I have no idea what your talking about so that doesn't really help.
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Just to make sure we are on the same page here. To me it looks like your crude arrow is pointing to the thin grey line that runs across the lower part of the screen above the bolder line. There is also one at the top that is very thin like maybe 2 or three pixels at most. These are the the top and bottom boarders for the information area of the pull down. If you get a text or an app wants to upgrade you can slide the bar down and the information about the text or the app and other information will appear between the two very tiny thin lines.
At all other times there is just a big dark void area between these lines.
Now if your image is showing something else then only you can see it because as stated by another poster we see nothing out of the ordinary for any Android phone running this version of Android in that screen image.
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Just to make sure we are on the same page here. To me it looks like your crude arrow is pointing to the thin grey line that runs across the lower part of the screen above the bolder line. There is also one at the top that is very thin like maybe 2 or three pixels at most. These are the the top and bottom boarders for the information area of the pull down. If you get a text or an app wants to upgrade you can slide the bar down and the information about the text or the app and other information will appear between the two very tiny thin lines.
At all other times there is just a big dark void area between these lines.
Now if your image is showing something else then only you can see it because as stated by another poster we see nothing out of the ordinary for any Android phone running this version of Android in that screen image.
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You may even have to as far as full brightness in a dark room. And I know it's the software because it's in the image not the lcd. I meant to circle it as well but I guess I missed that but I understand this device. I'm quite tech friendly myself so I understand how the notification bar design is. I'm not referring to the gray line that turns blue when you touch it and I'm not talking about any of the bar dividers. Nor the message and download center. I mean right in the corner there's too glitch like hash marks that actually slide up and down with it. Under the lighting I posted up there you should see it without a doubt. Also stretching the image to scale of your screen help you see it as if it was your pull down bar. Once someone sees it the hopefully we can determine what it's culprit is.
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Just to make sure we are on the same page here. To me it looks like your crude arrow is pointing to the thin grey line that runs across the lower part of the screen above the bolder line. There is also one at the top that is very thin like maybe 2 or three pixels at most. These are the the top and bottom boarders for the information area of the pull down. If you get a text or an app wants to upgrade you can slide the bar down and the information about the text or the app and other information will appear between the two very tiny thin lines.
At all other times there is just a big dark void area between these lines.
Now if your image is showing something else then only you can see it because as stated by another poster we see nothing out of the ordinary for any Android phone running this version of Android in that screen image.
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It's definitely there my wife even saw it. You may even have to as far as full brightness in a dark room. And I know it's the software because it's in the image not the lcd. I meant to circle it as well but I guess I missed that but I understand this device. I'm quite tech friendly myself so I understand how the notification bar design is. I'm not referring to the gray line that turns blue when you touch it and I'm not talking about any of the bar dividers. Nor the message and download center. I mean right in the corner there's too glitch like hash marks that actually slide up and down with it. I even pisted a screenie while moving it up and it travels with it as if its part of the notification bar. But i also know a glitch when i see obe. Under the lighting I posted up there you should see it without a doubt. Also stretching the image to scale of your screen help you see it as if it was your pull down bar. Once someone sees it the hopefully we can determine what it's culprit is.
20X head mag + 10X mag swingup. Dark room. Full brightness. Nothing.
If could be an artifact on your LCD.
I could not see anything on my phone but when I looked at it on my pc I could see what I think he is talking about. There are actually three lines that I see running on a slant, one of the lines runs through the "AT&T" on the bottom of the screen.
I think I see it too. Its so faint I had to zoom in just to see the pixel differences. Id reccomend a facotry reset, and if the issues persistent, perhaps a ROM install, and if not, a warranty exchange.
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20X head mag + 10X mag swingup. Dark room. Full brightness. Nothing.
If could be an artifact on your LCD.
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I wish I could believe that, but why does the artifact travel with the notification bar as I pull it back up and away? And that spot/issue doesn't appear anywhere else on the screen and also it doesn't appear on the same spot screen wise as to where it ends up on the notification bar. This can't possibly make any sense to an lcd. Lol. Any suggestions? And I apologize that you can't see it. It's just a photo you should see it. It shows up on any device viewing the image.
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I think I see it too. Its so faint I had to zoom in just to see the pixel differences. Id reccomend a facotry reset, and if the issues persistent, perhaps a ROM install, and if not, a warranty exchange.
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Thank you so much. I'm glad you were able to. What I don't understand is I've never in my years of experience with these devices I've never ever seen an image issue like that that actually moves with the bar as if it's a part of it. I've tried resets to no avail. And if it was hardware you'd see it one everything of that color in that same spot but it doesn't have a designated spit other than the Corner of that notification bar. Strange and I'm at a loss of words. And Romming isn't an option, this device has too many security features to warrant a trial and error theory just to see.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I have a heck of a time swiping from the top corner to reduce an app into pen window. Try it in chrome and see what you get.
I either end up pulling the notification shade or swiping tabs. After 10 tries I might get the window. what am missing?
If your talking about pop up window I was having the same problem, here's what you do.. Swipe the corner of either the right or left side down but go ABOVE the screen a little start from the bezel where there's no screen and you should get it every time.. Hope this helps
Yeah that's it. Sorry, they used to call it pen window on note 3.
I'm still struggling with it.
Lol im opposite of you. They get swype too easily!....though I wonder if screen sensitivity increase have anything to do with it
It also doesn't work on everything.. No homescreen, you have to be on the browser or other applications for it to work..
Pen window was a different thing all. Together where you would draw a little box with the pen and a few applications would come up, this you don't need to use the pen for it to work, so if you're using the pen it might make it harder try what I said using your finger and see if it helps..
I'm not using the pen at all. I just tried it a bunch of times and I get better results (not 100% but much better) if I swipe quicker and from the corner of the PHONE, not the corner of the screen. Just about what Melissa recommended. But for me speed seems to factor in too.
Good I'm glad it's working better for ya! ?
Try near very corner, where it says PM/AM ...starting from the status bar...pull down past the bar, then i towards the center. You'll notice that if you go straight down the shade won't move.
That's usually where I reach to pull the shade down and kept wondering why it wouldn't come down the first time I try it.
are there any videos or picture tutorials of this? I'm really having problems. Granted this is my first Note device, but I haven't ever gotten it to work even one time.
rabilancia said:
are there any videos or picture tutorials of this? I'm really having problems. Granted this is my first Note device, but I haven't ever gotten it to work even one time.
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It really is as easy as it sounds. Put your index finger over the front facing camera in the upper right corner of the phone then slide your finger diagonally across the screen towards the bottom left. Works for me every time as long as the app support it. Not all apps work so make sure you are using a supported multi-window app.
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are there any videos or picture tutorials of this? I'm really having problems. Granted this is my first Note device, but I haven't ever gotten it to work even one time.
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Yeah, there are 'dead' zones on both ends of the status bar. After you pull down from the dead zone, just swipe towards the center. You can actually pull down about 1/2 inch and it will still work.
I'm very embarrassed to report back, but I had never turned on "Multi-Window." Perhaps my noobiness will help someone else!
Thanks to all those who offered help!
Anyone notice that the alternate characters on the Samsung keyboard is slow to respond? It works fine, I just find myself having to long press longer to get the alternate character. Causes me to make mistake quite often.
My Note 5 & Note 2 werenxt (<- see) this slow to respond. Anyway to remedy this? I've been comparing with my Note 5 & on the Note 8 itxs definitely slower to respond.
Yeah, it's pretty strange that Samsung doesn't include an option to adjust the response time like you can on third party keyboards. I'd suggest just trying out SwiftKey or others because it can definitely get annoying not getting the special key you want as fast as you want. Champagne problems, I know, but still. It's annoying, nonetheless.
EDIT: As you can see from the attached photo, SwiftKey (which I'm using) has this option but the stock Samsung keyboard does NOT offer it. Shame.
Yeah, same here. I like the Samsung keyboard because when apply a theme the keyboard is included. However, the special character problem plus the auto correct being so bad, I may have to switch.
Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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The short spacebar on Samsung keyboards is the ONLY reason I have always used Gboard. Shame Samsung never revised it yet.
Like yourself I always hit period instead of space.
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