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Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
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Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
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I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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djq said:
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
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What I meant too hot to touch is that it's warm enough to the point that it's already uncomfortable to hold. Also nexus 4 is a millimeter thick than Xperia Z that's a big factor in heat. Plus I did point out 3 factors in heating and nexus 4 only has 1.
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I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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I would rather have portable heater with smartphone features than a smartphone that shuts off everytime lol!
Also glass can't be coolants it would defy the logic of nature
And yeah nexus 4 do encounter overheating issues too.
I just wish Xperia ZL was water resistant. The curve design on the back is a great way to reduce heat produced by the phone + the plastic material which reduces it also.
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
AK4TAY7BEN said:
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Well i guess that could could happen if you put it in ice cold water
I don't think i could ever put a case on that lovely back.
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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They need space to put the electronics you know The Xperia ZL is fatter so they can make the battery more compact, leaving more room for everything else behind the display. Also, part of the OmniBalance design is that the bezel is the same size on the top and bottom.
there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi joking
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there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
marcoplo said:
it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
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I underclock my phones up to a minimum of 900mhz(it's a dual core msm8x60 processor) and still when watching videos, browsing the web and playing games(Like angry birds) for a minimum of 40minutes then the phone get's hotter already. This might not be the case for S4 processors since they have lower nanometer(nm) but still I'm pretty sure it would still get hot.
Regarding no air circulation... That's one of the main causes of overheating since the heat would be more stagnant. The more flow of air inside the phone the lesser it is to likely overheat.
Hi,
Yeah ok I haven't searched if there's a thread on this (if so, don't worry Mods I'll close it). Quick question,
Those with the white Sony Xperia Z, Do you use a case and screen protector? I'm worried my XZ will change color in my jeans or black trousers... I'm particularly worried in the sides. Sony's quality is much better than HTCs so im just worried as im an ex HTC user.
Am I just worried over a silly matter or is it a problem?
Edit - They give us a screen protector... Do they know something we dont?
Thanks all.
Just got it today and im looking to port Sense 5.0 to it
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Good to see more devs here
I have the white Z,
3 months now without cover or screen protector and still like a new one.
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I've not seen many white XZ around Rome. But from what I've read on some forum that the only part slightly sensitive to external colours is the plastic around the glass. But it can be removed just washing it, nothing permanent seems... :good:
For my white Xperia Z i use front n back screen protection and Spigen ultra slim case...result. In perfect and like New condition peace-out :beer:
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Taylor_Swift said:
They give us a screen protector... Do they know something we dont?
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That's because there is a factory-applied anti-shatter film on top of the glass which is easier to scratch than the glass is (obviously), so they provide the screen protector because of anticipated higher demand of it.
Taylor_Swift said:
Just got it today and im looking to port Sense 5.0 to it
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Please don't
Also, your signature is ridiculously large.
Rekoil said:
That's because there is a factory-applied anti-shatter film on top of the glass which is easier to scratch than the glass is (obviously), so they provide the screen protector because of anticipated higher demand of it.
Please don't
Also, your signature is ridiculously large.
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Sorry. I do a lot of XDA work. Really? Sense 5 and Optimus UI would be awesome on the XZ
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Taylor_Swift said:
Sorry. I do a lot of XDA work. Really? Sense 5 and Optimus UI would be awesome on the XZ
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Hehe, I was just kidding. Definitely couldn't hurt!
I use the case mate tough case and a screen protector, works great and phone is in perfect condition.
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I've got a white Xperia Z for 4 mounths now with no case or screen protector, always in my pocket... no color change is noticeable
Thanks for putting the doubt out of my mind guys...
Cause im nice ill thank y'all
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gm007 said:
Good to see more devs here
I have the white Z,
3 months now without cover or screen protector and still like a new one.
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This :good:
You can rest easy on this one. I've had mine since the day 3 launched it on their network. No screen protector and no case, although I have a Poetic stand type case for watching videos but that's only been used twice, and not a scratch on the glass or a colour out of place. The only thing I would say is watch the plastic trim around the sides, luckily on the white one its hard to notice but of you drop it a few times the surface comes off.
Mines been dropped off a ladder at work onto concrete, fallen out my pocket whilst mountain biking and been run over by another bike, it's been pressure washed (although the little water sensor things did all turn red at that point) and it's been stood on.
I've never seen a phone that holds up this well to abuse since the old Nokia 3310.
do you still have plans for sense 5 port?
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do you still have plans for sense 5 port?
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Yeah... Just on hold
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I was in the beach 2 days ago and I brought my xperia Z along. I decided that it was a good idea to take underwater videos and pictures above the water. They all looked great. The only problem is that, its been two days since that happened and my speaker is still muffled. It usually gets dry in a few hours, this time I'm worried it might have damaged for good. I believe that maybe little grains of sand made their way through the grill and are keeping the sound low or something else. Anyways, just wanted to ask if anyone can advise me on what to do. I had my C6002 since its release and have submerge it in numerous pools but never on a beach. Any help will be appreciated, thanks
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I wouldn't recommend open the device, you could lose the water resistance altogether.
My only advice would be letting the device on rice for a while with the flaps open.
Anyway, my take on this subject is this:
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indestructible.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
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Good luck anyway.
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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Teo032 said:
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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That would be my suggestion too. Try giving it a bath in nice clean water to rinse off any debris.
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Yeah that was my first reaction. I actually left it submerged for about 15 and after that I rinsed it on the shower with no avail. I havent blow dried it, I've read somewhere that might help. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll leave it with rice tonight and see if I have something positive to report tomorrow.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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Same thing here since a few days and I f*cking hate it! Thought I'm not sure if it's dirt or a dead pixel.
abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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Futura2000 said:
There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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abajarde said:
What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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You can only send it for repairs;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
Which is what I'm going to do.
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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You are probably going to eventually destroy the water proof membrane inside the speaker if you continue to do that. Not good advice.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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Yeah man, pushing compressed air through there doesn't sound like a good idea. I'll gladly wait 2-3 hours or a bag of rice overnite. That's living dangerously right there
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Well it's your choice but it takes a quick spray and it'd back to normal.
If you did it with 10 psi sure but this is can which is like 10 psi.
It's up to you but it's not much dissimilar to blowing it with your mouth
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Amazingly, I left the phone over night on a bag of rice and not only did it fix the issue it had another unexpected effect. Now, when I wet the speaker its back to normal almost immediately. I was at a lake yesterday, used the phone to record under water, take photos, and guess what? It was fully loud each time almost immediately after I got out of the water. This phone hasn't seize to impress. I highly recommend to consider the rice. Often times, naturally aspired solutions are the better choice.
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I don't know exactly how to describe this. But my Xperia Z1 seems slightly bent at one side. The power button side. Look at the pic. Lying on a flat surface. Compare the power button side and the usb side. In honesty, my phone has been recently exposed to a lotta heat. Abuja, Nigeria is really hot. The phone got so hot that day it actually started damaging the carrying pouch. Should I be worried?
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idk if my eyes are bad..
but isn't that more like a hump on the battery part?
seems logical if it is a hump... batteries are never good with high heat exposure
well try putting i on a flat table and get a shot from the sides while the phone is lying on the back and front
Check this
and yes you should be worried ... more so for your health!
Did you keep it in your back pocket?
I came across two images of Xperia Z1 Bent on Sony Mobile forum. It seems very sad that users are saying that they didn't put it back pocket and not at all sat on it.
so I put up a post here to make users aware of this http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/11/17/xperia-z1-screen-and-body-bent-appears/ and @dante2086 if I have your permission can I include your pic in above post of mine ?
@zegun Yeah, sorry about that. I actually uploaded four files using the app, didn't know that three failed. But I've uploaded the others.
@ara.armagedon How does it affect my health?
@TheCraig Never put in my back pocket, not even once.
@ImAnurag Feel free to use the pix.
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@ara.armagedon How does it affect my health?
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I was talking about the heat but you can't really trust a phone in that condition, perfectly fine phones sometimes blowup. Fix it ASAP
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ara.armagedon said:
I was talking about the heat but you can't really trust a phone in that condition, perfectly fine phones sometimes blowup. Fix it ASAP
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Yeah, but I think I've adapted to it. As for the phone, the problem is Sony mobile, has poor, if not nearly non-existent representation in Nigeria. Most Sony phones are sold via third party representatives in Nigeria, and I don't think too much of them. If it does get worse though, I might be forced to send it in. As u can see from the pics it's not too severe. And I kept the phone in water for ten minutes today just to verify if it was still waterproof, apparently it still is.
incredible pictures.....
dante2086 said:
I don't know exactly how to describe this. But my Xperia Z1 seems slightly bent at one side. The power button side. Look at the pic. Lying on a flat surface. Compare the power button side and the usb side. In honesty, my phone has been recently exposed to a lotta heat. Abuja, Nigeria is really hot. The phone got so hot that day it actually started damaging the carrying pouch. Should I be worried?
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Aluminium!
A metal frame!
change its shape in normal earth temperature !!!
u r kiddin!
even water needs more than 80-90C to change its shape!
but for example aluminium body of XZ1 change because of maybe 60C !! (60C for warmest city on earth!)
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and some users talked about this problem without any reason !!!
no caused phenomena are for quantum world.
in our normal world there s always reason for everything.
and reason of something like this is users misbehaving...
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How in the world!???
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negrobembon said:
How in the world!???
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
Smartass all fo you....
The aluminum frame is fabricated it such a way that IT CAN ACTUALLY BEND ITSELF! If the stress tensor in the alimonum block was highly distorted before the chipping process THE FRAM WILL BENT ITSELF AFTER A WHULE to relive inner materials pressure...
This can defenetly be cause by wrong fabricatimg procedures....
Go atudy your physics before blabbering about physics on xda..!
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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Hahahahahah I think someone needs to study spelling before typing on xda!!
Lol
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yeah my z1 seems bent too. i've noticed it shortly after getting it. girlfriend thinks i'm crazy but i'm sure. i did put it off as an optical illusion due to the port covers not being 100% parallel to the frame sometimes, but even on a table it wobbles, so it must be bent.
very disconcerting to say the least.
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yeah my z1 seems bent too. i've noticed it shortly after getting it. girlfriend thinks i'm crazy but i'm sure. i did put it off as an optical illusion due to the port covers not being 100% parallel to the frame sometimes, but even on a table it wobbles, so it must be bent.
very disconcerting to say the least.
Hally79 said:
Hahahahahah I think someone needs to study spelling before typing on xda!!
Lol
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No need to be nasty bro.
Not trying to hurt you or offend you but that's quite a hurtful thing to say, a lot of users here don't have english as their first language
Anyway, sorry for going off topic
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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Could be that the battery is swollen due to overcharging, or the aluminium could have bent, melting point doesn't mean that it can be made into a durable metal at lower heat, but i find that unlikely, i'm putting my money on the battery swelling.
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Few people in the world are as careful with their phones as I am. And I definitely don't sit on it. And fabricated aluminium doesn't need to get to it melting point to bend.
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Could be that the battery is swollen due to overcharging, or the aluminium could have bent, melting point doesn't mean that it can be made into a durable metal at lower heat, but i find that unlikely, i'm putting my money on the battery swelling.
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Yeah, I thought so too. It happened to my K700, but that significantly affected my battery life. But since uninstalling CNN app and installing 4.3, my battery life is great.
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Few people in the world are as careful with their phones as I am. And I definitely don't sit on it. And fabricated aluminium doesn't need to get to it melting point to bend.
Yeah, I thought so too. It happened to my K700, but that significantly affected my battery life. But since uninstalling CNN app and installing 4.3, my battery life is great.
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Could still be m8, i've seen batteries swell until they literally broke the devices, i have a device for transferring data from any mobile device to any other mobile device, called celibrite, I like i div had it charging all the time and the battery ended up like a massive blue bag (swollen) it broke the front sim slot and pushed the screws out through their threads, nothing was stopping it, in terms of battery life i have to say when it was disconnected i didn't noticed a drop in battery life either, although it was never unplugged for very long, as for my phone I have it on a timer at night so it never gets more than an hour of overcharge.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingavon-24...TF8&qid=1389723209&sr=8-1&keywords=plug+timer
I see. Well the bending doesn't seem to be getting worse, so if it's a battery swelling, its safe to say it's stopped right?
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Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.
jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.
Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?
Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.
I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?
It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it
As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.
I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.
if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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