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Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
1) The phone can be rooted. However, if i want to run on a custom ROM or use mods such as the music mod, I would have to unlock the bootloader, yes?
2) Once the bootloader is unlocked, I would lose the 'Bravia Engine' feature of the phone. What else will I lose? For those who have lost it, is the trade off, of being able to run Custom ROMs and mods while losing the 'Bravia Engine' feature worth it?
3) If I have to send the phone for warranty, I could just re-lock the bootloader and send it back for warranty. Is there a chance somehow that they'll reject the phone if they detected that the phone's bootloader was tempered with?
arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
1) The phone can be rooted. However, if i want to run on a custom ROM or use mods such as the music mod, I would have to unlock the bootloader, yes?
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arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
2) Once the bootloader is unlocked, I would lose the 'Bravia Engine' feature of the phone. What else will I lose? For those who have lost it, is the trade off, of being able to run Custom ROMs and mods while losing the 'Bravia Engine' feature worth it?
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No clue since mine isn't/can't be unlocked. The only reason for me to unlock the BL (Even though it can't be done) would be, to flash a custom kernel, beside that I don't see any other reasons why I should unlock it.
arvin2212 said:
Hello guys,
Just a few questions so I know what I am getting into
3) If I have to send the phone for warranty, I could just re-lock the bootloader and send it back for warranty. Is there a chance somehow that they'll reject the phone if they detected that the phone's bootloader was tempered with?
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Once it's unlocked there is no way back.
So if you want to root your phone, use custom roms (without custom kernels) you don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Dsteppa said:
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No clue since mine isn't/can't be unlocked. The only reason for me to unlock the BL (Even though it can't be done) would be, to flash a custom kernel, beside that I don't see any other reasons why I should unlock it.
Once it's unlocked there is no way back.
So if you want to root your phone, use custom roms (without custom kernels) you don't need to unlock the bootloader.
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Thank you very much for the reply.
I assumed as such from reading some posts initially, but then I went to the ROM section (If i am not mistaken) and there is a post on how to unlock the bootloader and then there is the Why section where it says that you could then use custom ROMs and mods which then confused me.
If i can use custom roms and mods without unlocking the bootloader, then I'll definitely be getting this phone.
I'll take advantage of this thread to ask one simple question: once we rooted the XZ and flash the Mods we find useful, we no longer get updates from the official Sony firmware in the future, right?
labroste said:
I'll take advantage of this thread to ask one simple question: once we rooted the XZ and flash the Mods we find useful, we no longer get updates from the official Sony firmware in the future, right?
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First backup your firmware with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188129
You can go back at any time to your original firmware and you can have the updates via pcc or sus.
Sent from my C6602 using xda premium
Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
So... as far as I can tell by looking at the htcdev kernel source the kernel is vulnerable to the sw_perf_event exploit (http://packetstormsecurity.com/files/121616/semtex.c), and than there is this project https://github.com/android-rooting-tools/libperf_event_exploit.
I was wondering if anyone made that exploit work on the M7 (aka found the right offset) and also if you think it would be worth rooting with that. I guess I won't be able to flash new ROMs as the bootloader would still be locked, right? Or will I be able to flash the recovery partition withoud needing to unlock the bootloader (I guess not)?
Thanks
sciepy said:
Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
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this is false. you will have to pay for any repairs performed on the device.
Blanket statements like this are troublesome. The warranty coverage varies by country. I've had warranty replaced phones that were rooted with no problem here in the US
Hi,
I have a noob question, and I'm sorry that this not where i should post
I have an International HTC One M7 (4.4.2 and Sense 6). Since HTC is committed to provide OTAs for Android L, which I don't want to miss. But I want my phone to be S-Off and Unlocked bootloader. I've read a post saying that we are still eligible for OTAs if we have stock recovery, stock rom. So I just want to Unlock my bootloader and S-Off, thats it I dont want to install any recovery or flash any roms. I only want this because, i will be frank, i need that pan360 feature in my camera (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU28g9yxzN4) as you can see at 14:45 in the linked video. So what should I do? And unlocking bootloader, getting s-off and relocking the bootloader qualifies us to get OTAs? how exactly does the HTCs OTAs check in my phone before it decides whether im eligible for OTA or not.
Thanks in advance!
phsetaknev said:
Hi,
I have a noob question, and I'm sorry that this not where i should post
I have an International HTC One M7 (4.4.2 and Sense 6). Since HTC is committed to provide OTAs for Android L, which I don't want to miss. But I want my phone to be S-Off and Unlocked bootloader. I've read a post saying that we are still eligible for OTAs if we have stock recovery, stock rom. So I just want to Unlock my bootloader and S-Off, thats it I dont want to install any recovery or flash any roms. I only want this because, i will be frank, i need that pan360 feature in my camera (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU28g9yxzN4) as you can see at 14:45 in the linked video. So what should I do? And unlocking bootloader, getting s-off and relocking the bootloader qualifies us to get OTAs? how exactly does the HTCs OTAs check in my phone before it decides whether im eligible for OTA or not.
Thanks in advance!
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Ok unlocking your boot loader and getting soff will have nothing to do with getting the app. That may rely on being rooted which will mean ugly will need to flash something. To be honest I wouldn't count on an ota before there is a flashable zip built from source.
zelendel said:
Ok unlocking your boot loader and getting soff will have nothing to do with getting the app. That may rely on being rooted which will mean ugly will need to flash something. To be honest I wouldn't count on an ota before there is a flashable zip built from source.
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You mean, we dont need an OTA since side loading is already available even before the OTA reaches the devices?? If YES then does rooting enable side loading?
phsetaknev said:
You mean, we dont need an OTA since side loading is already available even before the OTA reaches the devices?? If YES then does rooting enable side loading?
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Most of the time yes. There is a built ROM from source within a matter of hours if not before most get the OTA. No rooting doesn't enable it. Just unlocked bootloader. Maybe soff depending on if there is a new radio.
And to be honest with all the issues with OTA I never advise using them.
Also looking at the video. You would have to flash a rom to get what you want anyway.
zelendel said:
Most of the time yes. There is a built ROM from source within a matter of hours if not before most get the OTA. No rooting doesn't enable it. Just unlocked bootloader. Maybe soff depending on if there is a new radio.
And to be honest with all the issues with OTA I never advise using them.
Also looking at the video. You would have to flash a rom to get what you want anyway.
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Yeah, doesnt it look cool That rom in the video is from Elegancia which is discontinued now! And is it advisable to unlock your bootloader using HTC Dev? I hear if we do that using htc dev, you will never be able to get the OTAs or am i being paranoid? (considering your suggestion of OTAs being problematic )
phsetaknev said:
Yeah, doesnt it look cool That rom in the video is from Elegancia which is discontinued now! And is it advisable to unlock your bootloader using HTC Dev? I hear if we do that using htc dev, you will never be able to get the OTAs or am i being paranoid? (considering your suggestion of OTAs being problematic )
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To be honest I stopped using gas sense 5 min after I got the device. I am one of the old school that remembers Sense before Android and think HTC killed it.
Yes you can use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. I wish advise hitting up the device forum and reading up
Oh and on a side note. HTC comment about the L release was targeting the GPE version of the device. Not the sense version.
zelendel said:
To be honest I stopped using gas sense 5 min after I got the device. I am one of the old school that remembers Sense before Android and think HTC killed it.
Yes you can use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. I wish advise hitting up the device forum and reading up
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Two more questions
1) How does putting a LOCKED message after unlocking the bootloader in the boot page helps? Most of the people are concerned about changing that message from UNLOCKED to LOCKED.
2) And will there be any problem if I just Unlock the bootloader and S-Off and continue using the Stock ROM from HTC that i have? I may root the device later, but keeping it like that could harm the device in any manner?
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Two more questions
1) How does putting a LOCKED message after unlocking the bootloader in the boot page helps? Most of the people are concerned about changing that message from UNLOCKED to LOCKED.
2) And will there be any problem if I just Unlock the bootloader and S-Off and continue using the Stock ROM from HTC that i have? I may root the device later, but keeping it like that could harm the device in any manner?
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To be honest They worry about it because if HTC sees that you unlocked your bootloader then your warranty is voided. While This is something most accept as a price you pay for modding your device, Some dont want to accept the responsability and try to commit fraud but altering the bootloader to relocked status.
no there should be no problem with just doing that. But to be honest there is no point until your ready to take it further.
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Oh and on a side note. HTC comment about the L release was targeting the GPE version of the device. Not the sense version.
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Thanks a lot for your answers I shall look for info in other threads and try to contribute. And HTC has committed to provide all the updates for a new device for 2 years, and the leaks from llabfooter on twitter show that L will also be released for other HTC one series models
zelendel said:
To be honest They worry about it because if HTC sees that you unlocked your bootloader then your warranty is voided. While This is something most accept as a price you pay for modding your device, Some dont want to accept the responsability and try to commit fraud but altering the bootloader to relocked status.
no there should be no problem with just doing that. But to be honest there is no point until your ready to take it further.
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I just wanted to post that's it Great seeing a Senior Moderator visiting the forums and answering questions
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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get S Off then use " Guru bootloader reset tool" remove Tempered and Lock bootloader warranty will come back HTC won't ask you if phone show locked
If relocked is there means no warranty
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
majmoz said:
It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
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Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
shad0wboss said:
Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
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flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
alray said:
flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
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I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
shad0wboss said:
I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
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yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$. S-off can also be achieved with a java card (fonefunshop.com)
alray said:
yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$
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I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
shad0wboss said:
I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
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exactly....
firewater may not works (50-50) but afaik, sunshine should work (not tested it myself, better to check the official thread). In last resort, the java card method from fonefunshop.com will work. firewater is free, sunshine cost 25$ iirc and fonefunshop.com cost £14.99 + shipping to UK
Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Yeah well i ain't paying for an exploit
Guess i'll stay stock until a hero emerges and updates firewater.
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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Developer editions are shipped with an unlocked bootloader. If your phone is not a dev edition, unlocking its bootloader may void your warranty as explained at htcdev.com/bootloader
shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.
Seanie280672 said:
also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.
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Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....
shad0wboss said:
Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....
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technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.
Seanie280672 said:
technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.
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Yes, sunshine does (recently) support lollipop. Version 3.0.3 is available.
Change Log
Version 3.0.3
Fixed two "Unexpected Errors"
Fixed one SuperSu Hang
Fixed HTC CDMA TempRoot Crash
Fix paypal crash
Added Mini2/Remix (s400) support
Now supporting all 4.4.4 HTC
Now supporting all rootable 5.0.x HTC
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http://theroot.ninja/download.html