There has been no mention in the ONE forums before these started getting split off about being able to root without going through HTC Devunlock first. Do you think that is being worked on and will be released? Someone had pointed to a twitter post from someone about that in the EVO LTE forums but that was weeks ago and nothing ever got posted to XDA.
Trying to figure out if I should jump on this phone or not, want to know how quickly I can get root for things like Greenify/Titanium/Adblock/Wifi Tether. I can wait for full unlock S-Off and Roms, but those apps are essential to how I like to experience my phones.
Htcdev does not root your device. It somewhat unlocks it but keeps the security on. Most devices are rooted fairly quickly, so this should be no different.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
mrancier said:
Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No htcdev doesn't give s-off. Its still s on and you have to use fastboot to flash kernels and radios.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium
Sorry about my misleading post. I stand corrected. Thank you.
I confirmed with HTCdev on twitter that the Sprint version of the One is getting unlock support, at least. We may or may not get full S-Off sooner or later, but the supported unlock method will be enough to satisfy me for now.
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would not flash a ROM intended for a GSM device on CDMA.
knlmwq said:
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I was out of town for work but this is the point I was making.
I understand an unlocked bootloader /= root. That wasn't related to my question.
For example my Asus Transformer tablet has root methods that are available without the use of Asus' Bootloader unlock (similar concept to HTC's version). This gives me features/access to apps that I would like to use without loosing my warranty and without them tracking my phone that way. All of the root methods currently listed in the dev forums are currently requiring HTC Dev unlock to achieve the root access, which although is great for some is not what many of us want.
It is no different than for us coming from a Sprint Evo 4G LTE, many of us achieved root and eventually S-Off without requiring the use of HTC Dev unlock. That is what I am interested in, but my inquiry was about the fact there had been no threads regarding it being worked on or developed.
I was interested in this same thing and did some research and emailed HTC about it. HTC doesn't void warranty automatically just because you unlocked it according to their support, but it allows them the right to deny it. Basically, if they detect non-stock software on the phone, they are likely to void it. It sounded like it didn't matter if you used their unlock method or not.
Sent from my Evo 3D CDMA using xda app-developers app
64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is why people brick their phones...
Sent from my HTCONE using xda premium
adrianr514 said:
This is why people brick their phones...
Sent from my HTCONE using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, right?
knlmwq said:
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Currently, NO, you CANNOT root without HTC dev unlock.
HTCDev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
ok
thanks a lot
Typically, a HTC device that has htcdev support doesn't get a root method without unlocking. It happens but not very many security devs are going to spend any amount of time trying to find a root exploit when one isn't needed to root the device. The time is better spent finding a s-off exploit.
The at&t guys will be plugging away at a root method and if they find a root exploit it will be compatible with ours. unless its a temp root exploit that changes cid to get them htcdev support, in that case it would be useless for us.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Dev unlock and then check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236955
This should answer your question
steelh said:
currently, no, you cannot
htcdev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
Magpir said:
be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are in a Sprint HTC One forum. So yes, what SteelH said applies.
Related
when is the release?
:laugh:
Phone don't even release in market yet lol
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Hopefully soon... I want this phone so badly! But I hate Sense and all the other preinstalled bloatware, so I will only buy it if there is a fully functional vanilla custom ROM.
No ETA's !!!!!
1st, 2nd & 3rd rule
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
I'll try and port CM once I get my phone
How is HTC nowadays when it comes to unlocking the bootloader? I like the look of the One and its features, but coming from the GNex, rooting my phone is a must.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
It's easy to unlock HTC Bootloader if it's supported in there bootloader tool, only around 5-10minutes. It's not fully s-off though like the HTC One X but its possible to flash kernels and roms.
OK thanks
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Don't be fooled by the htcdev site boot unlock. You still remain s-on, and the boot is still locked. Kernel needs to be flashed separately, cant flash radios... Worse, htc has avery poor track record in providing firmware source codes for its phone h/w components (twin 3D cam in evo3D, cam f/w for almost all phones, no third party support), ergo, no official cyanogen mod 10,11 or wany such official roms. What you get is some unofficial hack using ersatz codes by a dev experimenting...never stable....no hope outside stock rom....its time to abandon ship than stay on a burning platform (to quote steven Elop).
Sort of false. You can flash radios just can't downgrade it. Also when S-On you still can flash the kernel through fastboot or TWRP has a feature to let you flash the kernel.
With regards to S-Off I'm not sure but the S-Off method found on One X was just made days ago and I think HTC haven't patched it yet so assuming this is the case HTC One can be S-Off by using the same method.
I'm a fan of CM, but I'm buying this phone wholly expecting to be using nova launcher (or similar) over the top of sense. HTC kernels deviate a reasonable amount from AOSP and as stated things like cameras are just released as packed drivers, so it's very hard to manipulate for AOSP roms.
M.
Well.. i don't think a single person even have the phone.. besides HTC owners and workers.
if CM supported the One X.. then i don't see why the One won't get support..
Riyal said:
Sort of false. You can flash radios just can't downgrade it. Also when S-On you still can flash the kernel through fastboot or TWRP has a feature to let you flash the kernel.
With regards to S-Off I'm not sure but the S-Off method found on One X was just made days ago and I think HTC haven't patched it yet so assuming this is the case HTC One can be S-Off by using the same method.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you flash radios if htcdev unlocked.? Other than running a RUU? HTC Evo LTE got s-off quite a while back, but also, the first hboot it shipped with actually allowed radio and kernel flash. But they patched that quickly. I never update an hboot though. Lazy panda got S-off for Evo lte just a couple months after release, if even that long. And for all the fools who updated hboot before S-off, team unlimited has been able to get s-off for every hboot since.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
Cookie Ninja said:
Don't be fooled by the htcdev site boot unlock. You still remain s-on, and the boot is still locked. Kernel needs to be flashed separately, cant flash radios... Worse, htc has avery poor track record in providing firmware source codes for its phone h/w components (twin 3D cam in evo3D, cam f/w for almost all phones, no third party support), ergo, no official cyanogen mod 10,11 or wany such official roms. What you get is some unofficial hack using ersatz codes by a dev experimenting...never stable....no hope outside stock rom....its time to abandon ship than stay on a burning platform (to quote steven Elop).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi
Riyal said:
Sort of false. You can flash radios just can't downgrade it. Also when S-On you still can flash the kernel through fastboot or TWRP has a feature to let you flash the kernel.
With regards to S-Off I'm not sure but the S-Off method found on One X was just made days ago and I think HTC haven't patched it yet so assuming this is the case HTC One can be S-Off by using the same method.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think jcase tweeted that the HTC one is cid write protected though
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda app-developers app
markj338 said:
Hi
I think jcase tweeted that the HTC one is cid write protected though
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for this info! Erm then thats bad news I hope someone would be able to provide us a s-off hboot soon.
VPN
has any one noticed that VPN doesn't work On CM !?
any solution to solve it ?
Hi, I'm gettin me an HTC One from Rogers here in Canada, and I was wondering if the development that's done over in the Android Development Section is going to all be compatible with this version of the phone? I don't see a separate forum so I assume it will be, but I'm asking just to be safe
Thanks!
royoshukrun said:
Hi, I'm gettin me an HTC One from Rogers here in Canada, and I was wondering if the development that's done over in the Android Development Section is going to all be compatible with this version of the phone? I don't see a separate forum so I assume it will be, but I'm asking just to be safe
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will probably have to change the CCID or the ROMs will not install. That can't be done until S-Off is achieved. (I think it is called CCID - it is the country code inside the firmware, and means you can't flash a ROM not designed for your country). At least this is how the Amaze works, and I think other HTC devices.
So the ROM itself would need to be made for that country's device? Why isn't there a forum for the canadian HTC Ones then yet?
royoshukrun said:
So the ROM itself would need to be made for that country's device? Why isn't there a forum for the canadian HTC Ones then yet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is my understanding. Until someone achieves S-Off.
As to different Forums, XDA tends to just use different threads for the various services, not forums.
Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
c5satellite2 said:
Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hardware is the same, so you're saying that the same root methods and ROMs will work for now, until such a time that S-OFF might be achieved?
c5satellite2 said:
Changing CID is for bootloader unlocking via HTC's website. It's the US phones that need to be changed usually.
Roms don't care what your cid is.
There will be seperate forums if the phone has different hardware under the same name. I am pretty sure the One is the same hardware regardless of carrier and should only have one forum.
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't yet have my One, but for the Amaze this is certainly not true. The ones from outside the US will not flash a Rom based on a US carrier unless the cid is fixed. That is what I'm basing my post upon. Maybe the One will be different, maybe not.
Sent from my IdeaTabA2109A using xda premium
stevedebi said:
I don't yet have my One, but for the Amaze this is certainly not true. The ones from outside the US will not flash a Rom based on a US carrier unless the cid is fixed. That is what I'm basing my post upon. Maybe the One will be different, maybe not.
Sent from my IdeaTabA2109A using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
royoshukrun said:
I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I hope he is correct, it will be much easier for those outside the country to flash any ROM they want. We will have to see how it goes.
royoshukrun said:
I posted the same question in the TrickDroid ROM thread and the dev said that it should flahs with no problems. Thought I should let you know that's what he thinks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't find the thread I saw but there was one over in the general form that said its compatible so long as it does not change the radio. The only variance in these phones is the radio, which is unusual. Most of the time there is another difference that makes roms incompatible.
bobruels44 said:
I can't find the thread I saw but there was one over in the general form that said its compatible so long as it does not change the radio. The only variance in these phones is the radio, which is unusual. Most of the time there is another difference that makes roms incompatible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then the T-Mobile (and Canada) ROMS would be the issue, since I believe only they have the 1700/1900 radios. They would be specific to that hardware.
stevedebi said:
Then the T-Mobile (and Canada) ROMS would be the issue, since I believe only they have the 1700/1900 radios. They would be specific to that hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Someone correct me if I'm wrong ROMs don't flash radios. So long as this remains true it should not be an issue? Also I herd people have ROMs working on the AT&T variant which is what Canada (or at leas the big 3 plus their sub-brands) get.
Edit: Here is what I found saying that we will be able to flash some of these roms, Earlier in the thread it was said that U and UL roms were interchangeable. I'll be trying it out tomorrow afternoon. I'm buying one outright from Bell here in calgary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40441828&postcount=108
I just bought my HTC One from Rogers but I haven't proceeded with anything yet for the same reasons as above. Coming from a One XL (Rogers One X) I know that I was able to use AT&T roms as well as Rogers & Telus roms with my phone, and use any of the radios from all three of those providers without issue.
Seeing as there are currently three separate forums for the HTC One (M7, Sprint & AT&T), I'm not sure which ones are compatible with which carriers. I hope that some of this gets straightened out in the days to come. Of course if there's anything I can do from my end to help, just tell me what to do ^_^
EDIT: Just followed link in above post, and it seems to have cleared it up for me. I still think that the forums for compatible devices should be merged, like the way the One XL forum is.
so we need to stick to the ATT forums?
or, iirc, we can flash the international ROMs so long as the radio doesnt flash lest we lose LTE
Hello everyone,
Ok I just got the Sprint HTC One.I've done S-OFF, Super-CID, Unlock.
My Questions are:
1) Is there a way to use ROM from HTC One(not Sprint HTC One)
example any of theese: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115#romList
2) And is it only me but if I do "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" with Non Sprint TWRP , the recovery doesn't load.
any links with nice,stable,battery friendly ROMs will work for me.
Thank you.
Cr3a7eR said:
Hello everyone,
Ok I just got the Sprint HTC One.I've done S-OFF, Super-CID, Unlock.
My Questions are:
1) Is there a way to use ROM from HTC One(not Sprint HTC One)
example any of theese: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115#romList
2) And is it only me but if I do "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" with Non Sprint TWRP , the recovery doesn't load.
any links with nice,stable,battery friendly ROMs will work for me.
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want a non functioning HTC One flash any of the rom's in the non sprint dev section.
Ok, So with Super CID I should be able to run any RUU? Is this correct
For example I want to use some European non Sprint.Is this going to work
No, you will probably brick your phone.
CNexus said:
No, you will probably brick your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whew, talk about THICK.
Cr3a7eR said:
Ok, So with Super CID I should be able to run any RUU? Is this correct
For example I want to use some European non Sprint.Is this going to work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am guessing we will see a post soon from this guy "stuck in bootloader".
At least you're asking for advice first, but you need to pay attention to the answers.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
Konfuzion said:
I am guessing we will see a post soon from this guy "stuck in bootloader".
At least you're asking for advice first, but you need to pay attention to the answers.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright, you can just answer and explain what actually I can do with SuperCID.
Not to make yourself the smart person here.
Ok, you are right, I will stuck somewhere but that's how we learn...when no one anwers us with real "answer".
dont think super cid is really very useful on cdma phones...
I'm not trying to be the smart person here, I am trying to help you. With super CID you can flash any carriers Rom or RUU, however with Sprint being a coma phone we are very limited so as far as I know having super cid is kind of pointless. Unless someone else knows better.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
Konfuzion said:
I'm not trying to be the smart person here, I am trying to help you. With super CID you can flash any carriers Rom or RUU, however with Sprint being a coma phone we are very limited so as far as I know having super cid is kind of pointless. Unless someone else knows better.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is correct. If you read the info in the CID unlock thread it explains everything.
Super CID does allow you to use any RUU, but that doesn't help us as much because Sprint is CDMA, the rest of the varients are currently GSM. However, when the phone becomes available on other CDMA carriers like Boost or Verizon it will be more useful because those will work since they are CDMA as well.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
---------- Post added at 11:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 PM ----------
Cr3a7eR said:
Hello everyone,
Ok I just got the Sprint HTC One.I've done S-OFF, Super-CID, Unlock.
My Questions are:
1) Is there a way to use ROM from HTC One(not Sprint HTC One)
example any of theese: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115#romList
2) And is it only me but if I do "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" with Non Sprint TWRP , the recovery doesn't load.
any links with nice,stable,battery friendly ROMs will work for me.
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To answer the original questions...
1. Not directly, you'd have to Port them.
2. You need to flash the Sprint TWRP, use either 2.5.0 or 2.6.1. The 2.6.0 version that is floating around is broken.
As far as good tons, I personally havent flashed any because stock, with a different launcher, has worked so well. I read through a lot of the AOSP based Rom threads and there seem to be some issues that need to get worked out before I would consider them strong contenders to the stock stability and features. However any stock roms should give good results, is recommend Viper Rom.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
Give the guy a break; the Super CID is confusing to us Sprint users. Even the guy who posted the Super CID didnt realize till later that it wouldnt do us much good. If it isn't clear to you already, DONT FLASH ANY ROM THAT ISNT SPECIFICALLY BUILT FOR THE SPRINT VARIANT. And dont bother with super CID, even if/when boost and other prepaid options become available, I will have a hard time believing that development will skyrocket because of it. I have been working on three different roms for our beloved sprint variant and have dismal failures for going on three weeks. Couldnt figure out why everybody loved stock so much here, but I think I know now.
Thank you guys, now everything is clear for me :silly:
I am going to use my phone in Europe and in my country we use only GSM, we don't use CDMA at all.
Now I am using this rom: 42ONE - The Aftermath
Really Like it and recomend it.
i've tried with viper but more like this one.
I am a long time android user , mostly Samsung , but other devices as well, so that being said, theres no way without an unlocked bl i can use CWM ? Or any custom recovery? I dont care about warranties as i buy my phones outright,js, but i need to root for sure , get rid of att junkware , also custom roms, but maybe im missing something in the motorola world, how do you root and get custom roms and not have a custom recovery , sure you can have root, but custom roms without recovery?
Sent from my A500 using xda app-developers app
Vintage144 said:
I am a long time android user , mostly Samsung , but other devices as well, so that being said, theres no way without an unlocked bl i can use CWM ? Or any custom recovery? I dont care about warranties as i buy my phones outright,js, but i need to root for sure , get rid of att junkware , also custom roms, but maybe im missing something in the motorola world, how do you root and get custom roms and not have a custom recovery , sure you can have root, but custom roms without recovery?
Sent from my A500 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have a GSM Dev Edition you can do all that stuff. I believe that AT&T's and Verizon's Moto X's are locked.
You can use Safestrap, which creates a partition which you can flash custom Roms, but I believe you have to be on Android 4.2.2 to do it. All it does is create a partition so the official android version is always there and you will have less storage to use by using safestrap. There are no custom kernels for Safestrap to my knowledge.
Sent from my XT1060 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Rebel908 said:
If you have a GSM Dev Edition you can do all that stuff. I believe that AT&T's and Verizon's Moto X's are locked.
You can use Safestrap, which creates a partition which you can flash custom Roms, but I believe you have to be on Android 4.2.2 to do it. All it does is create a partition so the official android version is always there and you will have less storage to use by using safestrap. There are no custom kernels for Safestrap to my knowledge.
Sent from my XT1060 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well I kinda thought that , but at least I can root (right?) , will still have my Note 2 and Note OG to play with , should be interesting, Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
Vintage144 said:
well I kinda thought that , but at least I can root (right?) , will still have my Note 2 and Note OG to play with , should be interesting, Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not even sure what good root does for me, yes I want access in root explorer , and some other things , but not having a recovery is limiting, I really dont like stock recovery but not having any or relying on adb isnt really an option , guess ill just play with it awhile and be like the general population and be clueless for a while!
Vintage144 said:
Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll likely be dead before a bootloader leak comes out. Lenovo being in charge will change nothing. If an OEM wanted their phone on VZW or ATT, they're going to have to play by the carrier rules.
Vintage144 said:
not even sure what good root does for me, yes I want access in root explorer , and some other things , but not having a recovery is limiting, I really dont like stock recovery but not having any or relying on adb isnt really an option , guess ill just play with it awhile and be like the general population and be clueless for a while!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why exactly do you need a custom recovery? There aren't any roms worth flashing, not when Moto got it right with the software. There aren't any kernels either. Root gives you access to Xposed which gives you access to GravityBox and native tethering.
If you really need a custom recovery, return or trade your phone for a Dev edition.
I'm not 100% sure but I think you can use J Case's SlapMyMoto for the Moto X's with a locked boatloader. But you'll need to be ready to put in some work because it looks a little confusing with downgrading to 4.2.2 then upgrading back to 4.4. I'm not very experienced with all this stuff either so I could be wrong. Might be worth checking it out though just in case.
Sent from my XT1055 using xda app-developers app
I personally think OP should stick to Samsung devices and/or Nexus devices for now. Most of the dev-support breaks down to those two devices anyways. Also, the fun of Moto X lies in the fact it's really good with Stock ROM by itself with its special features. Installing Custom ROMs removes the primary reasons for even considering Moto X (active notification/touchless controls/motorola assist).
Well part of the fun of Android is being able to customize it, if all i wanted was a locked down OS id get an iphone and be just another flappybird idiot , there wouldnt be a need for XDA , maybe they can open an xda site for non custom stuff , most of you on here who have been using motorola products should do yourself a favor and try samsung or htc and find out what youve been missing ,sure there phones are good stock, but there amazing customized. I dont want to buy a Corvette that i cant customize to my own liking, just saying
Sent from my A500 using xda app-developers app
You didn't research before buying....an xda member? ???
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Sorry to inform you, but if you're still in the return period, you should return that phone. AT&T and (regular) Verizon version are bootloader locked, there are no way to unlock them yet, if ever. You should get the GSM Developer edition, you can unlock its bootloader without voiding your warranty, then you can easily use fastboot to flash custom recovery and flash anything.
Also don't let other tells you how you should use the phone, it's Android, use it however you like. However, you should be careful next time to not buy locked down devices like AT&T and Verizon carrier locked phones, it's pretty much a given. Go with international unlocked, developer edition or Google Play edition. Also some phones are more moddable than other. Nexus phones give you unlimited freedom in term of flashing and customizing.
There is no reason to buy a AT&T locked devices if you intended to pay full price for the device, get the unlocked version instead, they will work on AT&T.
eksasol said:
Sorry to inform you, but if you're still in the return period, you should return that phone. AT&T and (regular) Verizon version are bootloader locked, there are no way to unlock them yet, if ever. You should get the GSM Developer edition, you can unlock its bootloader without voiding your warranty, then you can easily use fastboot to flash custom recovery and flash anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. Get anything other than at&t and Verizon NON Dev....as long as the new phones bands work on your carrier.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Well I researched a little bit , frankly its gonna be spare anyway , ill probably keep running my OG Note as I prefer it over even my note II , but I will run it you bet on that . One thing is for sure XDA is doomed if they continue locking the boot loader , dev fones wont be worth the fuss , even Win Fones have sone merit
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda app-developers app
How will it doom xda? LOL. Lots still to do/learn/mod/flash and play with. Some phones are just more limited than others.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
what modding and flashing is there if the bl is locked ? sure you can put fancy themes up there , but is there? Without recovery (custom recovery) , there is no flashing mods , custom mods, theres really nothing else , those of you who have been stuck in Motorola world (which by they way they made the cpu for apple for many years as well, a main reason why apples sucked too) , should try something by an unknown chinese company because those will be the only androids worth messing with in the years to come, or go get an sIII or Note , start modding and getting a custom recovery and then tell me how great stock is!
CartlandSmith said:
There is the Xposed Framework and its modules. It is very powerful and only requires root, not an unlocked bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
xposed is cool , but if something goes wrong? theres no recovery !
Vintage144 said:
xposed is cool , but if something goes wrong? theres no recovery !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then get a different phone? Not sure what you want anyone to say? ???
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
just saying , but whatever , doesnt really matter , its the way of the world , steve jobs has won , his dream was making followers and apparently he's won!
K....you're being kinda ridiculous.....you bought a phone you can't unlock. Basically an iPhone. Sorry, but that doesn't reflect on all android phones. Especially ones you can unlock and do anything under the sun too.
Sell your phone. For you and your expectations .....you made the wrong choice. Plain and simple. Its not android, Google, or Motorola's fault.
Enough doom dude.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
CartlandSmith said:
I haven't read about people bricking their phones using Xposed modules.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can potentially mess something up and cause the phone to boot loop.
well ill be running exposed , its not doom and gloom , if your happy with stock why bother even coming here , xda is customizing not running stock but whatever ill run mine til it bricks at least it will be a challenge
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda app-developers app
Can I flash sense based roms on the Google play edition ? I know you can do gpe based roms on sense devices but I can't find any info on what happens the other way. Thanks.
Bump, probably trading for this tomorrow so I would really like an answer today. Does anyone know?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
d11dog11 said:
Can I flash sense based roms on the Google play edition ? I know you can do gpe based roms on sense devices but I can't find any info on what happens the other way. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not as far as i am aware, you will have to go through a few hoops unlocking bootloader s-off - firmware change to sense etc, i have bricked
my device in the process as i have a current post up here asking for help, gonna get M8 tomorrow, so we are in similar circumstances !
rrat said:
Not as far as i am aware, you will have to go through a few hoops unlocking bootloader s-off - firmware change to sense etc, i have bricked
my device in the process as i have a current post up here asking for help, gonna get M8 tomorrow, so we are in similar circumstances !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know it needs s off and custom recovery and all that. I just mean once I have it ready to flash roms, is there any reason I can't flash a sense rom?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
d11dog11 said:
I know it needs s off and custom recovery and all that. I just mean once I have it ready to flash roms, is there any reason I can't flash a sense rom?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am trying to do that now and i am stuck on the bootloader !!! Bricked, ! You can give it a try but am not a novice and i am stuck with a bricked
GPE version phone, if i was you, sell your working variant GPE on Gumtree, Ebay and go from there ! Good luck
Come on folks. Do your research.
A GPE One's hardware is identical to the AT&T carrier-locked/branded or Developer Edition or "International" (WWE) unlocked/unbranded phones.
Any of them can be turned into any of the others by (carefully) writing to the necessary partitions.
Once any of these phones is S-OFF you can easily run any of the ROMs intended for any of the others.
In fact, you can use "firmware" intended for one while running another, although I would advise you understand what "flashing firmware" really means before making any firm conclusions there.
Anyway, short answer to the OP, yes if you're S-OFF and do a little reading, you can flash a variety of Sense ROMs.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
NxNW said:
Come on folks. Do your research.
A GPE One's hardware is identical to the AT&T carrier-locked/branded or Developer Edition or "International" (WWE) unlocked/unbranded phones.
Any of them can be turned into any of the others by (carefully) writing to the necessary partitions.
Once any of these phones is S-OFF you can easily run any of the ROMs intended for any of the others.
In fact, you can use "firmware" intended for one while running another, although I would advise you understand what "flashing firmware" really means before making any firm conclusions there.
Anyway, short answer to the OP, yes if you're S-OFF and do a little reading, you can flash a variety of Sense ROMs.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was the answer I was expecting and I thank you.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Next question, do I have to worry about s off like I did on my Verizon version or does the old fastboot oem unlock work like a nexus?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
d11dog11 said:
Next question, do I have to worry about s off like I did on my Verizon version or does the old fastboot oem unlock work like a nexus?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unlock is not the same as S-OFF.
You can do a lot with just being unlocked, but at some point you probably want S-OFF.
I didn't buy my phone from Google, so I don't know if unlocking is as simple as using a fastboot command like on a Nexus.
If not, you will have to unlock like everyone else. You can go to htcdev.com and/or do it as part of the S-OFF process.
Just to review the obvious, unlocking your phone in this way will erase everything personal on it including your pictures, your music, everything.
Backup your stuff.
To go all the way S-OFF, you first need to find out your HBOOT version. Most GPE phones have 1.54 right now.
Then decide which S-OFF exploit might work for you.
Read the rumrunner and firewater threads very carefully before doing anything. Always read the OP several times and then peruse the last two or pages of activity in any thread before making any conclusions.
Good luck.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
GPE Hboot unlocks just like a nexus with Fastboot OEM Unlock. A token from htc dev is not required.
Still going to need to use an exploit to gain S-OFF
NxNW said:
Unlock is not the same as S-OFF.
You can do a lot with just being unlocked, but at some point you probably want S-OFF.
I didn't buy my phone from Google, so I don't know if unlocking is as simple as using a fastboot command like on a Nexus.
If not, you will have to unlock like everyone else. You can go to htcdev.com and/or do it as part of the S-OFF process.
Just to review the obvious, unlocking your phone in this way will erase everything personal on it including your pictures, your music, everything.
Backup your stuff.
To go all the way S-OFF, you first need to find out your HBOOT version. Most GPE phones have 1.54 right now.
Then decide which S-OFF exploit might work for you.
Read the rumrunner and firewater threads very carefully before doing anything. Always read the OP several times and then peruse the last two or pages of activity in any thread before making any conclusions.
Good luck.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse