I am a long time android user , mostly Samsung , but other devices as well, so that being said, theres no way without an unlocked bl i can use CWM ? Or any custom recovery? I dont care about warranties as i buy my phones outright,js, but i need to root for sure , get rid of att junkware , also custom roms, but maybe im missing something in the motorola world, how do you root and get custom roms and not have a custom recovery , sure you can have root, but custom roms without recovery?
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I am a long time android user , mostly Samsung , but other devices as well, so that being said, theres no way without an unlocked bl i can use CWM ? Or any custom recovery? I dont care about warranties as i buy my phones outright,js, but i need to root for sure , get rid of att junkware , also custom roms, but maybe im missing something in the motorola world, how do you root and get custom roms and not have a custom recovery , sure you can have root, but custom roms without recovery?
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If you have a GSM Dev Edition you can do all that stuff. I believe that AT&T's and Verizon's Moto X's are locked.
You can use Safestrap, which creates a partition which you can flash custom Roms, but I believe you have to be on Android 4.2.2 to do it. All it does is create a partition so the official android version is always there and you will have less storage to use by using safestrap. There are no custom kernels for Safestrap to my knowledge.
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If you have a GSM Dev Edition you can do all that stuff. I believe that AT&T's and Verizon's Moto X's are locked.
You can use Safestrap, which creates a partition which you can flash custom Roms, but I believe you have to be on Android 4.2.2 to do it. All it does is create a partition so the official android version is always there and you will have less storage to use by using safestrap. There are no custom kernels for Safestrap to my knowledge.
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well I kinda thought that , but at least I can root (right?) , will still have my Note 2 and Note OG to play with , should be interesting, Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
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well I kinda thought that , but at least I can root (right?) , will still have my Note 2 and Note OG to play with , should be interesting, Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
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not even sure what good root does for me, yes I want access in root explorer , and some other things , but not having a recovery is limiting, I really dont like stock recovery but not having any or relying on adb isnt really an option , guess ill just play with it awhile and be like the general population and be clueless for a while!
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Im sure a leak will come out , I can wait ,especially if the phone is really nice anyway! Maybe Lenovo will have some say over this, after all they are chinese , and dont have to play att bs rules game
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You'll likely be dead before a bootloader leak comes out. Lenovo being in charge will change nothing. If an OEM wanted their phone on VZW or ATT, they're going to have to play by the carrier rules.
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not even sure what good root does for me, yes I want access in root explorer , and some other things , but not having a recovery is limiting, I really dont like stock recovery but not having any or relying on adb isnt really an option , guess ill just play with it awhile and be like the general population and be clueless for a while!
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Why exactly do you need a custom recovery? There aren't any roms worth flashing, not when Moto got it right with the software. There aren't any kernels either. Root gives you access to Xposed which gives you access to GravityBox and native tethering.
If you really need a custom recovery, return or trade your phone for a Dev edition.
I'm not 100% sure but I think you can use J Case's SlapMyMoto for the Moto X's with a locked boatloader. But you'll need to be ready to put in some work because it looks a little confusing with downgrading to 4.2.2 then upgrading back to 4.4. I'm not very experienced with all this stuff either so I could be wrong. Might be worth checking it out though just in case.
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I personally think OP should stick to Samsung devices and/or Nexus devices for now. Most of the dev-support breaks down to those two devices anyways. Also, the fun of Moto X lies in the fact it's really good with Stock ROM by itself with its special features. Installing Custom ROMs removes the primary reasons for even considering Moto X (active notification/touchless controls/motorola assist).
Well part of the fun of Android is being able to customize it, if all i wanted was a locked down OS id get an iphone and be just another flappybird idiot , there wouldnt be a need for XDA , maybe they can open an xda site for non custom stuff , most of you on here who have been using motorola products should do yourself a favor and try samsung or htc and find out what youve been missing ,sure there phones are good stock, but there amazing customized. I dont want to buy a Corvette that i cant customize to my own liking, just saying
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You didn't research before buying....an xda member? ???
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Sorry to inform you, but if you're still in the return period, you should return that phone. AT&T and (regular) Verizon version are bootloader locked, there are no way to unlock them yet, if ever. You should get the GSM Developer edition, you can unlock its bootloader without voiding your warranty, then you can easily use fastboot to flash custom recovery and flash anything.
Also don't let other tells you how you should use the phone, it's Android, use it however you like. However, you should be careful next time to not buy locked down devices like AT&T and Verizon carrier locked phones, it's pretty much a given. Go with international unlocked, developer edition or Google Play edition. Also some phones are more moddable than other. Nexus phones give you unlimited freedom in term of flashing and customizing.
There is no reason to buy a AT&T locked devices if you intended to pay full price for the device, get the unlocked version instead, they will work on AT&T.
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Sorry to inform you, but if you're still in the return period, you should return that phone. AT&T and (regular) Verizon version are bootloader locked, there are no way to unlock them yet, if ever. You should get the GSM Developer edition, you can unlock its bootloader without voiding your warranty, then you can easily use fastboot to flash custom recovery and flash anything.
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This. Get anything other than at&t and Verizon NON Dev....as long as the new phones bands work on your carrier.
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Well I researched a little bit , frankly its gonna be spare anyway , ill probably keep running my OG Note as I prefer it over even my note II , but I will run it you bet on that . One thing is for sure XDA is doomed if they continue locking the boot loader , dev fones wont be worth the fuss , even Win Fones have sone merit
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How will it doom xda? LOL. Lots still to do/learn/mod/flash and play with. Some phones are just more limited than others.
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what modding and flashing is there if the bl is locked ? sure you can put fancy themes up there , but is there? Without recovery (custom recovery) , there is no flashing mods , custom mods, theres really nothing else , those of you who have been stuck in Motorola world (which by they way they made the cpu for apple for many years as well, a main reason why apples sucked too) , should try something by an unknown chinese company because those will be the only androids worth messing with in the years to come, or go get an sIII or Note , start modding and getting a custom recovery and then tell me how great stock is!
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There is the Xposed Framework and its modules. It is very powerful and only requires root, not an unlocked bootloader.
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xposed is cool , but if something goes wrong? theres no recovery !
Vintage144 said:
xposed is cool , but if something goes wrong? theres no recovery !
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Then get a different phone? Not sure what you want anyone to say? ???
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just saying , but whatever , doesnt really matter , its the way of the world , steve jobs has won , his dream was making followers and apparently he's won!
K....you're being kinda ridiculous.....you bought a phone you can't unlock. Basically an iPhone. Sorry, but that doesn't reflect on all android phones. Especially ones you can unlock and do anything under the sun too.
Sell your phone. For you and your expectations .....you made the wrong choice. Plain and simple. Its not android, Google, or Motorola's fault.
Enough doom dude.
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I haven't read about people bricking their phones using Xposed modules.
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You can potentially mess something up and cause the phone to boot loop.
well ill be running exposed , its not doom and gloom , if your happy with stock why bother even coming here , xda is customizing not running stock but whatever ill run mine til it bricks at least it will be a challenge
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There has been no mention in the ONE forums before these started getting split off about being able to root without going through HTC Devunlock first. Do you think that is being worked on and will be released? Someone had pointed to a twitter post from someone about that in the EVO LTE forums but that was weeks ago and nothing ever got posted to XDA.
Trying to figure out if I should jump on this phone or not, want to know how quickly I can get root for things like Greenify/Titanium/Adblock/Wifi Tether. I can wait for full unlock S-Off and Roms, but those apps are essential to how I like to experience my phones.
Htcdev does not root your device. It somewhat unlocks it but keeps the security on. Most devices are rooted fairly quickly, so this should be no different.
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Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
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Htc dev unlock, unlocks your bootloader (s-off). This allows the flashing of new kernels and recoveries.
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No htcdev doesn't give s-off. Its still s on and you have to use fastboot to flash kernels and radios.
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Sorry about my misleading post. I stand corrected. Thank you.
I confirmed with HTCdev on twitter that the Sprint version of the One is getting unlock support, at least. We may or may not get full S-Off sooner or later, but the supported unlock method will be enough to satisfy me for now.
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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I would not flash a ROM intended for a GSM device on CDMA.
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It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
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Sorry I was out of town for work but this is the point I was making.
I understand an unlocked bootloader /= root. That wasn't related to my question.
For example my Asus Transformer tablet has root methods that are available without the use of Asus' Bootloader unlock (similar concept to HTC's version). This gives me features/access to apps that I would like to use without loosing my warranty and without them tracking my phone that way. All of the root methods currently listed in the dev forums are currently requiring HTC Dev unlock to achieve the root access, which although is great for some is not what many of us want.
It is no different than for us coming from a Sprint Evo 4G LTE, many of us achieved root and eventually S-Off without requiring the use of HTC Dev unlock. That is what I am interested in, but my inquiry was about the fact there had been no threads regarding it being worked on or developed.
I was interested in this same thing and did some research and emailed HTC about it. HTC doesn't void warranty automatically just because you unlocked it according to their support, but it allows them the right to deny it. Basically, if they detect non-stock software on the phone, they are likely to void it. It sounded like it didn't matter if you used their unlock method or not.
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64mosh said:
Over at HTC one (M7) forum they already have quite a few working ROMS I don't see a reason why those ROMS shouldn't work for the sprint version
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This is why people brick their phones...
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This is why people brick their phones...
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Haha, right?
knlmwq said:
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point of his/her question. The question is can you root without doing the HTC unlock method. What if someone wants to have a rooted device but wants to keep there warranty?
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Currently, NO, you CANNOT root without HTC dev unlock.
HTCDev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
ok
thanks a lot
Typically, a HTC device that has htcdev support doesn't get a root method without unlocking. It happens but not very many security devs are going to spend any amount of time trying to find a root exploit when one isn't needed to root the device. The time is better spent finding a s-off exploit.
The at&t guys will be plugging away at a root method and if they find a root exploit it will be compatible with ours. unless its a temp root exploit that changes cid to get them htcdev support, in that case it would be useless for us.
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Dev unlock and then check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236955
This should answer your question
steelh said:
currently, no, you cannot
htcdev unlock does not void your warranty. I'm not going to argue this, nor explain it. Google it.
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be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
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be careful with yr statement because this does not apply to all countries. Different Countries service centres have a different policy with regards to consumer laws in that countries
it depends on the consumer laws of the country. Here in singapore or malaysia or some asian countries , once u dev unlock i can say warranty is good as gone.
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You are in a Sprint HTC One forum. So yes, what SteelH said applies.
hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
Have a look at Q1 in the FAQ thread which is stickied and you'll be able to pick your preferred method and find out.
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hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
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Pretty easy if you can read, comprehend and follow instructions.
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
ajaffarali said:
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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Thanks not heard of greenify cool app thanks :good:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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nickosbad said:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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It will always say (relocked) in recovery
My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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I can vouch for this. I bought my One two days ago and have it unlocked and rooted. However, it wasn't easy for me (this is the first Android I've ever "hacked") and it took two full days of researching and asking for help.
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Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
i have been rooted over 3 years and always get them thru roms sooner--never took one
have seen people taking updates and getting messed up
Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Understand, and could have sworn I replied to your post already--need a vacation--
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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shook187 said:
Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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To keep my phone on the latest software? I hear lots of people who have rooted are not seeing the upgrade and I dont wanna deal with custom ROMs
as folks have said, read a bunch. and follow directions very closely.
gaining root access to the phone isn't tough. how much time it takes also kinda depends on what you plan to do with root access.
- if your with root is to use the stock rom, and just gain access to rooted apps, and maybe get rid of some bloatware (again read which one's are safe to delete first!), then rooting won't take too much time.
- if you plan on trying new roms and kernels to try to ring every last drop of functionality and speed and battery life out of that chunk of hardware, then expect it to take some time. this path is voluntary. but it should be considered a lifestyle, not a solution.
I have the GN3 for AT&T. I received the 4.4.2 (NC2) update a week ago and my phone is stock . All I want to do is root . I don't care about the warranty. I've seen a couple of methods that supposedly work but has anyone successfully got it done and actually retained root access? Or is this a wait it out situation. Thankss.
I don't think there is a root method for nc2 yet sorry
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I'm with about 95% of Note 3 owners from AT&T patiently waiting for some root solution for our recent OTA update to NC2.
Like the movie Mad Max world, there's a lot of barrenness out there. There is no root on the horizon.
I read of rumors how other NC2 variants have achieved root, however with our "locked" bootloader, we're very very limited.
I know with our NC2 update, it "updated" our already locked bootloader to some monstrosity that won't alow a roll back.
We practically STUCK! The few root options we had prior to the update, that didn't trip the KNOX flag, are non - existent right now, and who knows if they will ever will be?
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This is a very popular device I'd wager someone will come out with a boot loader hijack eventually... If/when this happens we Will have full access to the system. But as far as root is concerned I'm sure it will arrive in time. My RAZR m is not a popular flagship device and it recently finally achieved root.
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Yeah it appears that way. It just sucks that I put the update on my phone and it totally wasn't worth it I should have just kept 4.3 then I wouldn't have this problem. I'm going to keep looking and possibly try a few methods hopefully something will turn up soon.. let me know if you find anything!
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This "no root" situation is very frustrating and makes the Note 3 useless to me. Just wanted to enter it into the "Smash the Past" contest to possibly win the new OnePlus One phone instead (http://oneplus.net/smash). Would so gladly shoot it through with an arrow from my hunting bow. No, I'm not a hunter, just enjoy target practice from time to time, and shooting this one would improve my aim accuracy for sure! Unfortunately will be out of country in the critical period. Darn! Anyone else would gladly smash the AT&T Note 3, if given a chance of getting another similar phone?
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This "no root" situation is very frustrating and makes the Note 3 useless to me. Just wanted to enter it into the "Smash the Past" contest to possibly win the new OnePlus One phone instead (http://oneplus.net/smash). Would so gladly shoot it through with an arrow from my hunting bow. No, I'm not a hunter, just enjoy target practice from time to time, and shooting this one would improve my aim accuracy for sure! Unfortunately will be out of country in the critical period. Darn! Anyone else would gladly smash the AT&T Note 3, if given a chance of getting another similar phone?
Greg
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So dumb.
Why would you break a $700 phone for a CHANCE to win a phone that costs $300..? That makes no sense even if you were guaranteed one for breaking the Note.
How about selling the Note and use the proceeds to just buy a One, and have money left over?
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So dumb.
Why would you break a $700 phone for a CHANCE to win a phone that costs $300..? That makes no sense even if you were guaranteed one for breaking the Note.
How about selling the Note and use the proceeds to just buy a One, and have money left over?
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It's just the frustration factor for me Would feel so good after all this trouble! I don't think I can sell it as is, I'm on a leaked KitKat version (MLG) with bootloader updated to the latest version, so I can't downgrade, and can't even upgrade to the official KitKat (when I would feel good about selling it). The actual "smash" part in the context comes only when you were selected/drawn to get the $1 OnePlus. But given that they provide you with a 16 GB memory only and there is no possibility to insert an SD card, the OnePlus in this particular configuration would be useless to me. Anyway, enough rambling. If someone hears about even a remote possibility to root this system, please post in this thread, seems like the most logical place to post such news.
Greg
kindle fire hdx is also very popular
so what?
gotta write petition to your congressman about AT&T+Samsung violating cellphone unlock law.
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It's just the frustration factor for me Would feel so good after all this trouble! I don't think I can sell it as is, I'm on a leaked KitKat version (MLG) with bootloader updated to the latest version, so I can't downgrade, and can't even upgrade to the official KitKat (when I would feel good about selling it). The actual "smash" part in the context comes only when you were selected/drawn to get the $1 OnePlus. But given that they provide you with a 16 GB memory only and there is no possibility to insert an SD card, the OnePlus in this particular configuration would be useless to me. Anyway, enough rambling. If someone hears about even a remote possibility to root this system, please post in this thread, seems like the most logical place to post such news.
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
bravomail said:
so what?
gotta write petition to your congressman about AT&T+Samsung violating cellphone unlock law.
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They're not violating anything...
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
They're not violating anything...
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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It doesn't matter what bootloader/ROM combo you have, you can always Odin back to stock, as long as you're not trying to go backwards
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Yes, but so far nobody managed to pull the Odin-able files from the official KitKat (NC2) release. If you know where to get these files, please share. I hoped that Samsung rep at the local BestBuy could flash NC2 to my phone, but he still has only JellyBean.
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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Exactly. Bricked my phone trying to upgrade from rooted JB to the official KitKat (long story). Was stuck in a bootloop, and MLG Odin files with NC2 bootloader, prepared by carl1961 (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51572014#post51572014) saved me. Actually MLG works very well for me, the only concern is that the eventual future OTA upgrades won't work with it.
I still don't know if Samsung rep with their SMART software would be able to flash the NC2 ROM over this MLG setup. Did anyone know this? The local stores around here (South-Western PA) still have only JB available. Actually last week when I went there, the rep thought that he can flash JB over my system, and I let him, curious to see what will happen. What actually happened was another "brick". The phone would do nothing except to start Odin download mode, showing an error message and advising to use Kies on my PC to restore it. The Samsung rep in BestBuy did not know what else to do and sent me home with a bricked device. Tried Kies, but no matter what I did and how many times I tried to debug the connection, reinstall its drivers etc., it would do nothing. Guess at that point I should go and complain to Samsung that they bricked my phone and demanding the fix. But I just wanted to use it, so I Odine'd back Carl's MLG system. Works like a charm again... Except that I miss root, of course.
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It seems he is using MLG software with NC2 bootloaders... He can't Odin anything with bootloaders less than NC2. And since we don't have NC2 Odin flashable software, he's screwed.
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Yes, but so far nobody managed to pull the Odin-able files from the official KitKat (NC2) release. If you know where to get these files, please share. I hoped that Samsung rep at the local BestBuy could flash NC2 to my phone, but he still has only JellyBean.
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I see. Wasn't aware that there isn't a KK stock tar yet
I am a Samsung Experience Consultant I work at the experience shop inside bestbuy in Vauxhall nj and yea I flashed nc2 with the smart tool to a note that was rooted on 4.3 it worked but he lost his root access and now he's stuck on 4.4.2 so now he's right along with the rest of us waiting. .
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I am a Samsung Experience Consultant I work at the experience shop inside bestbuy in Vauxhall nj and yea I flashed nc2 with the smart tool to a note that was rooted on 4.3 it worked but he lost his root access and now he's stuck on 4.4.2 so now he's right along with the rest of us waiting. .
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vulcanraven6: Any idea if the official 4.4.2 (NC2 ROM) would flash over the leaked (unrooted) version of 4.4.2 (build number ending with MLG), while the bootloaders are already upgraded to NC2 version, with your SMART software? I can't find out if this works or not, nobody is posting such answer, and the local Samsung reps at BestBuy still have only 4.3 on their SMART stations... Would appreciate any info on this, thanks!
Greg
I looked into it. Apparently it can't be done from what my buddy told me but I'm not so sure tell the store to download the file it's In the computer we have had it for a while now unless it's verizon.. if u have trouble or anything give me the number to the store and I'll tell them what to do to get 4.4.2 in their system.
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I looked into it. Apparently it can't be done from what my buddy told me but I'm not so sure tell the store to download the file it's In the computer we have had it for a while now unless it's verizon.. if u have trouble or anything give me the number to the store and I'll tell them what to do to get 4.4.2 in their system.
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Actually I went today to BestBuy and finally they had KitKat on their SMART station. It flashed without any trouble over my MLG system (Leaked KitKat) and now my phone is on NC2. Almost sorry I did this before I could with some trickery start a mobile WiFi hotspot, now on the official NC2 version it does not work at all. Oh well. At least I'm "official now" on my Note 3. Thank you for looking into it.
Greg
Great! I'm glad it worked out. I hope we get some type of work around soon for 4.4.2 ... I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Is there still no root method for nc2 official?
Hey XDA !!
Maybe this question is thrown around a lot , but here it goes anyways . I have pre-ordered a Nexus6 (64GB,blue) and am expecting it to arrive by the end of this week. Is it advisable/necessary to root the device ? I mean most of the nexus owners here have already rooted their phones ( judging by the signatures ) . I currently own a Xperia Arc S (LT18i) which i had rooted due to performance issues (cm9) but i wasnt very happy with it considering I lost the bravia settings. So do I really need a rooted phone ? And also what is the difference between unlocked bootloader and rooted device.
These are pretty basic questions and if there is a thread for any of this please post a link here in the comments . Pretty new to all this.
Thanks
Harmanpreet Singh said:
Hey XDA !!
Maybe this question is thrown around a lot , but here it goes anyways . I have pre-ordered a Nexus6 (64GB,blue) and am expecting it to arrive by the end of this week. Is it advisable/necessary to root the device ? I mean most of the nexus owners here have already rooted their phones ( judging by the signatures ) . I currently own a Xperia Arc S (LT18i) which i had rooted due to performance issues (cm9) but i wasnt very happy with it considering I lost the bravia settings. So do I really need a rooted phone ? And also what is the difference between unlocked bootloader and rooted device.
These are pretty basic questions and if there is a thread for any of this please post a link here in the comments . Pretty new to all this.
Thanks
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here a pretty basic answer.. if you NEED root, then yes, its advisable. if you dont need root, why would you root? the only thing that can be done with root is changing out system files and running apps that need root. it wont do anything else for you.
if you want to flash roms or other things, you dont need root either. but you would need to unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery. you dont need root to flash roms or kernels, you only need root to change system files and run apps that need root.
what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
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what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
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again, the difference is that with root you can change system files and run root oriented apps. root itself does not change anything except add in the superuser binaries.
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what differences/advantages one gets after rooting , considering nexus already has stock android .
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You can always Google the terms or watch some videos on YouTube etc. it comes down to personal preference and your goals/intentions with your device.
http://youtu.be/dXdCptD6HoM
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I know right now we have root which is better than nothing, but when can we be able to flash custom recovery and go full out ?
I've had this phone for 4 months now, and I just want to know if we will ever be able to ? Or do I have to start looking for new carrier ?
Thank you
Let us know when you ha e contributed toward getting that done.
There are custom ROM's available now, are you referring to AOSP/AOKP? well then that depends on if we ever get a boot loader exploit. With an unlocked boot loader comes custom Kernels then we can start to see original development projects bud. FYI, I would not be asking for time frames though, devs do not like it.
That god dern bootloader though!
Never.
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