This tutorial is for anyone who wanted this phone for gaming. You will get buttery smooth gaming performance compared to the latest jellybean. NO JOKE!
1. Download v10a.kdz
2. Flash it
3. (Optional but recommended)Get gamebooster 2 and put it on "Hard gaming" or "Ultra gaming" and the extra ram tweak
Please note that v10a has appalling battery life so only use if you're desperately wanting to play games. Battery life can be brought back to normal by restricting the cpu with lg gearbox
SO HOW DOES THIS WORK?
Basically v10a was like the one x first rom, not enough thermal control. Great for gaming, bad for battery and your thumbs comfort (BURN!). The control is there, but its so subtle you wouldn't notice. I'm surprised hardly anyone knew how well v10a performs. When I have time I will post the throttling values to see how they differ with more recent roms.
Update: There are no throttling values
Games tested:
GTA VC-Smooth as silk
Spiderman-1.1.7 playable, 1.1.4 is smooth
Need for speed MW- As always this game is badly optimized but its a lot less noticeable, just slight slow motion at the road blocks
Dead trigger- Minor hickup at game start but overall higher frameratr
Contract Killer 2- No more stutters when shooting
Gangstar rio: Exactly the same, just a glitchy update
Block story: smooth unless draw distance is increased
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I can play Real Racing 3 (Medium Settings) and Vice City with V20A, not so smooth, but you can play. I think everything will be fixed with other updates or XDA developers will do that, if you can play without problems with V10A.
Winudert said:
I can play Real Racing 3 (Medium Settings) and Vice City with V20A, not so smooth, but you can play. I think everything will be fixed with other updates or XDA developers will do that, if you can play without problems with V10A.
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There are no throttle tables in v10a, so even though theres a throttle value in tegra_thermal I don't think its doing anything.
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Winudert said:
I can play Real Racing 3 (Medium Settings) and Vice City with V20A, not so smooth, but you can play. I think everything will be fixed with other updates or XDA developers will do that, if you can play without problems with V10A.
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The thing is - the apps are not optimized for quad-cores.
Using LG Gearbox and limiting to one core will do the trick for most games, but Gearbox won't work for JB 4.1.2.
what about battery ? at least one day ? ( i mean, charge, overnight, at day some games and evening charge again)
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what about battery ? at least one day ? ( i mean, charge, overnight, at day some games and evening charge again)
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Dunno just flashed it last night, doesn't seem great but will report back tonight
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Aeternus Eternus said:
The thing is - the apps are not optimized for quad-cores.
Using LG Gearbox and limiting to one core will do the trick for most games, but Gearbox won't work for JB 4.1.2.
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This is true for ea games. Thing is gamelofts optimization isn't that bad, most play smooth on one x, I would say this is on par with one x stock rom
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I recently bought an tablet in China for only 70 euros, its so smooth and battery is great (RockChip 3066, dual core @1.6ghz and quad core Mali-400 GPU) and it runs games better then my phone.. that sucks, my phone also needs to be factory reset and reinstall the backup when i charge it from 0 to 100% in off-mode (WTF!?) I kinda want an other phone, but i guess im still stuck to it for 1.5 more years..
(Unless AOKP releases.. best rom ever on legendary HTC HD2.)
Tomaat said:
I recently bought an tablet in China for only 70 euros, its so smooth and battery is great (RockChip 3066, dual core @1.6ghz and quad core Mali-400 GPU) and it runs games better then my phone.. that sucks, my phone also needs to be factory reset and reinstall the backup when i charge it from 0 to 100% in off-mode (WTF!?) I kinda want an other phone, but i guess im still stuck to it for 1.5 more years..
(Unless AOKP releases.. best rom ever on legendary HTC HD2.)
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Your phone is wierd. If youre desperate for games try this rom. After further testing I find the battery isn't too bad afterall.€70 Is pretty good for those specs, I'm considering a kindle fire at some point this year, good cheap tablet in the UK
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Aeternus Eternus said:
The thing is - the apps are not optimized for quad-cores.
Using LG Gearbox and limiting to one core will do the trick for most games, but Gearbox won't work for JB 4.1.2.
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I'm playing just two games. Real Racing 3 have an app in Play Store to change graphics settings without root very easy (Low, Medium, High, Ultra), so you don't need LG Gearbox to run game at Medium, and Vice City have Visual Effects settings (Low, Medium, High, Max). Bottom line? I don't need Gearbox for now to trick games I have just one core.
Hi, i also change graphics for RR3 (via app on play store, and triey manual way too) but always I have problem run game offline - Needs download 1MB ... so game after change graphics dont work offline, only online ... how solve it ?
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Your phone is wierd. If youre desperate for games try this rom. After further testing I find the battery isn't too bad afterall.€70 Is pretty good for those specs, I'm considering a kindle fire at some point this year, good cheap tablet in the UK
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Their shipping is good, its pretty fast and you get an tracking code
(free shipping)
98 dollars isnt bad for an rockchip dual core CPU and quad core mali-400 gpu, with 1024x600 screen,
There are IPS versions aswell
http://goo.gl/WhbPM -- 98 dollars (atm) -- N70S , Jellybean and much updating (latest 22 january 2013)
8gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1024x600 Screen (good quality for me, and screen protector applied from factory)
http://goo.gl/XkN13 -- 144 dollars (atm)-- N70HD, Jellybean
16gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1280x800 IPS screen
Customs payment is paid back, the site says, their response is good (i didnt have any vat to pay)
(dunno if this linking is allowed btw, lawl)
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Their shipping is good, its pretty fast and you get an tracking code
(free shipping)
98 dollars isnt bad for an rockchip dual core CPU and quad core mali-400 gpu, with 1024x600 screen,
There are IPS versions aswell
http://goo.gl/WhbPM -- 98 dollars (atm) -- N70S , Jellybean and much updating (latest 22 january 2013)
8gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1024x600 Screen (good quality for me, and screen protector applied from factory)
http://goo.gl/XkN13 -- 144 dollars (atm)-- N70HD, Jellybean
16gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1280x800 IPS screen
Customs payment is paid back, the site says, their response is good (i didnt have any vat to pay)
(dunno if this linking is allowed btw, lawl)
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I'm not sure if that sort of links is allowed as well, but it's OT on a thread about settings for hardcore gamers on the LG 4X...
Tomaat said:
Their shipping is good, its pretty fast and you get an tracking code
(free shipping)
98 dollars isnt bad for an rockchip dual core CPU and quad core mali-400 gpu, with 1024x600 screen,
There are IPS versions aswell
http://goo.gl/WhbPM -- 98 dollars (atm) -- N70S , Jellybean and much updating (latest 22 january 2013)
8gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1024x600 Screen (good quality for me, and screen protector applied from factory)
http://goo.gl/XkN13 -- 144 dollars (atm)-- N70HD, Jellybean
16gb rom
1gb ram
rockchip 3066
1280x800 IPS screen
Customs payment is paid back, the site says, their response is good (i didnt have any vat to pay)
(dunno if this linking is allowed btw, lawl)
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After seeing a goclever tab (rebranded chinese tab) brick itself for no apparent reason and no way to recover I will stick to brands I know. And yes, stay on topic
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Hello guys my problem today is heavy games like mass effects and asphalt 6
Problem is my phone runs those games slowly very slowly and I think it should be faster than this but why heavy games are slowly if we compare it with iPhone 4 (has same processor speed)iPhone runs them very fast so should I do something to run them vary fastwithout hangs thnx
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Try closing some background apps. Performance also depends on what android version you run (but I don't think you use Froyo, gingerbread is way better )
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
Can I use chainfire???!!!!
chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
thats wierd cause, if my mind doesn't trick me, I remember when first using my OB for first time, a year ago or something, it had froyo and asphalt6HD and I spend hours playing it without problem before I even know about this forum...
now with the big wave of new roms, you can play almost anything you want
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chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
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Sorry but I tried it with chainfire it's faster
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But also chainfire make graphics very very bad!!!!
no another solution (I'm using cm7)
I'm closing all apps before starting but it also hangs
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
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that is absolutely not true!!!!....the GPU of black is still on par with most mid range droids rolling over adreno 200/205.
and of the Iphone, i feel u r comparing OB with iPhone 4 and not 4S, since they are on par. iPhone 4's GPU is as much powerful as OB's. the optimization is of the light (read "flash" free )OS
my OB plays most games seriously well... i feel it's a seriously well balanced device for the price range.
@hemo ali: try and use a task manager before your game start to clear off and release RAM. and avoid intensive apps like browsing, streaming etc while playing.
or better yet, get zeus/marvel
thnx for advice I hope to use zeus or marvel but my problem is in rtl support
is Zeus or Marvel supports rtl???
also what about graphics can I use chainfire without getting worse graphics??
okay another big problem after installing chainfire drivers And i noticed it goes well
but now another big problem(priority is very high)phone full hangs and stopped 4time/1day And I should release battery then put it again why is it related with chinfire???!!
I use cm7.2 rc3 with heux 4.0 kernerl, with chain fire 3d with smartass2 governer.
I play asphalt6, st iv and ShadowGun.
I dont find any perofrmance issues.
The games some time lag, and I see in CPU spy the CPU is stuck at 300 Mhz, killing the game and relaunching it fixes it. I see in CPU spy that CPU is scalled at 1 Ghz
I use Zeus 6.28n and i play both games + front line commando.. and i have no lag and works fine. i didn't change any frequency.. i use RARELY the memory booster when i switch from game to game..
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Which one is better in real world gaming/calling/battery life/3g brwsing/gpu/cpu performance customs roms, more easy to overclock best quality phone?
Atrix HD's battery is crap. As far as gaming, some non-tegra games might run better on the Atrix because of the optimization with Adreno GPU's. Take for example MC4. It has hiccups when i play it on my O4X, but it is buttery silky smooth on my Nexus 4. There are no custom roms available for the O4X because of a locked bootloader...therefore no way to overclock yet. Unless you're a kernel dev that could help in that category.
If you're looking to buy a phone and you development is a big deal for you, then go with the Atrix HD. If you don't care about development and just want a solid phone that you can count on, then the O4X is a wiser choice. I honestly don't feel like i have the need for overclocking or custom roms. Just like my Nexus 4. There are tons of custom roms and mods available for it, but i prefer to run it bone stock but with a custom kernel.
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Atrix HD's battery is crap. As far as gaming, some non-tegra games might run better on the Atrix because of the optimization with Adreno GPU's. Take for example MC4. It has hiccups when i play it on my O4X, but it is buttery silky smooth on my Nexus 4. There are no custom roms available for the O4X because of a locked bootloader...therefore no way to overclock yet. Unless you're a kernel dev that could help in that category.
If you're looking to buy a phone and you development is a big deal for you, then go with the Atrix HD. If you don't care about development and just want a solid phone that you can count on, then the O4X is a wiser choice. I honestly don't feel like i have the need for overclocking or custom roms. Just like my Nexus 4. There are tons of custom roms and mods available for it, but i prefer to run it bone stock but with a custom kernel.
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How`s battery life on O4X? and cpu performace tegra 3 vs "krait" S4?and for updating android which one has more support for updates?, what you mean with solid? and what happens if in the future O4X doesnt support new Android systems? bcuz it has locked bootloader so I cant install new custom roms?
Battery life on the O4X is decent. I get a whole day's worth with medium use. As far as Tegra 3 vs Q Krait S4 im sure there are plenty of video comparisons on youtube you can check out. As far as updates are concerned, since Motorola has been bought by Google you can count on the Atrix HD to receive its updates faster than the O4X. And because the O4X has a locked bootloader, there will be no custom roms to fulfill your flashaholic needs. That is until we get some devs who are willing to work on the phone. But until that time comes, if you're a flashaholic...go for the Atrix HD.
When i said a solid phone, i meant that the phone doesn't have any bugs or anything...so you can always count on it on being available for you to use.
someone else with some more useful info?
My 4X only laggs on games like MC4/gtaVC when i set the cpu under 1200mhz
Edit: and games run silk smooth on 1500 with performance setting
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My 4X only laggs on games like MC4/gtaVC when i set the cpu under 1200mhz
Edit: and games run silk smooth on 1500 with performance setting
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what about gamming and battery life?
Battery life: i tested, and my phone will easily standby 500+ hours(in airplane mode, with 3g activated, no data: it failed after the half. About 250-280 hrs.) When constantly gaming Dead Space (only game i tested the actual time on) it lasted 2 hrs 07 minutes on full performance mode. Again with no lag whatsoever(dead space wont lag on a optimus 2x or ever weaker phones though)
I did test on a older version of Counter Strike aswell(i found it the apk on my pc. Cant remember where i got it from) - and it did start lagging when i took it on a match with me and 15 AI`s (that is, 15 guys controlled by the phone) there my battery lasted 3+ something hours (from 100%) before i got the 5% warning.
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Could probably point out that while the battery life while gaming is a bit short - when I've tested it, it's been on average a full hour better than the competing quad-core phones when running the same game side by side.. not completely sure why that happens when comparing it to other tegra 3 phones, though.. Assuming it has something to do with the scheduler policy, along with the slightly larger battery, or something of that sort. Aside from that.. a snapdragon setup uses more power on average, and idles on a massively higher power-draw. Always been a problem with those soc designs - that the antennas and modules need to be powered on completely when there's power on the phone at all. Btw - really did manage to have the 4x run 11 days while online on the gsm network once. Didn't use the phone much - but it really is easy to get the phone to last three-four days if you don't run anything heavy. And by heavy, I don't mean just editing photos, or having the screen lit up, or something like that. I mean something that constantly runs on full processor load.
Power-draw while just playing back music and movies as well is top class. You don't read that in the reviews for some inexplicable reason.... having to do with Engadget being in love with Apple, to the point where they hate on anything that threatens to dethrone their precious princess or something. But it's still the case. This tegra 3 chip with an ips screen/gorilla glass, slim chassis w/replaceable battery/memory card slot - is a very neat design.
What? The power draw when playing music is the only thing that let me down when using this phone! Even my old xperia x8 could do better!
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I meant compared to other modern smartphones
Could put it this way - if you want support for lossless formats, dynamic bitrate, ogg, that sort of thing - then this is the most effective system by far. Since you have power management that is transparent to the OS, and so on, so you can use existing media-players with support for the arm set and get good performance on low clocks/only the companion core, etc.
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I meant compared to other modern smartphones
Could put it this way - if you want support for lossless formats, dynamic bitrate, ogg, that sort of thing - then this is the most effective system by far. Since you have power management that is transparent to the OS, and so on, so you can use existing media-players with support for the arm set and get good performance on low clocks/only the companion core, etc.
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Tested; none of the (free) media players on google play could be run on the companion core. They seem to always run on the 3rd(core2) 1.5ghz core. Putting the freq at a stable 1.1ghz when screen off. And pumping to the full 1.5 when the screen is on...
Not very power saving...
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Hm.. The ones using the arm 7 vfp packs should avoid that. Bsplayer does, at least.. The internal player as well. Same codec pack. The Spotify app actually avoids running on the other cores as well. That instruction set class is not unique for tegra3 either, so it should be fairly commonly used by now.
and getting a higher battery in mAh would help? which models uses O4XHD?
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and getting a higher battery in mAh would help? which models uses O4XHD?
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mAh reflects the storage capacity. Getting the double amount of mAh will basically double your battery life
The only other than the stock battery known to me, must be the mugen powers battery extender-something like that. And that will make your phone look like a brick.
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Hi im thinking of buying a nice phone for playing games is xperia t right thing. How are games like modern combat 4 , nfs most wanted, spiderman, dark knight rises running on this device . Plz give a quick response
Out of the box, it works OK until it gets hot. There have been numerous threads about thermal throttling kicking in after a while and killing performance - do a search rather than creating an 'urgent' new thread next time.
Having said that, if you are prepared to root then this thread may keep your performance up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937329
This phone gets HOT when playing games? i thought its 28nm cpu will stay cool. Should i buy xperia T or should i buy htc one XL for gaming
by the way i researched alot and could not find a similar threat.
Most new phones have some sort of heat issue and thermal throttling. I would recommend trying the games on the handsets to see exactly what you feel about it.
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I am running now at 192 - 1458MHz, both cores always on, when the heat is going over about 65°C, CPU is throttled to 1188MHz (and less), still with both cores on. When I am gaming a little longer, CPU temperature is going up to 75°C and battery temperature does not exceed 50°C while connected to wall charger.
All games I know are running smoothly this way.
These temperatures should be fine. If anything goes wrong with these temperatures, then it's a bad device.
Thing that is low on T, is RAM. I would recommend something with 2GB. I believe there will be games with 2GB requirement soon. And T has only 640MB available RAM for applications. And system is using about 300 - 400MB. The rest of RAM is low even for browser and low for future gaming, at least now in ICS.
And internal memory chip has not very good performance. For example SenseMe Slideshow (plastic frames) never makes smooth slideshow. Opening phone or SMS app takes almost 2 seconds. Opening NFS Most Wanted takes about 15 seconds (and this procedure kills all opened apps, very nice. Etc.
I am not telling it's a bad device, I like it (except wifi, that one drives me mad. But I recommend something else for heavy gaming.
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I am running now at 192 - 1458MHz, both cores always on...
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Out of curiosity, ¿what rom/kernel combo are you using?. I'm interested in undervolting and underclocking my device.
I used Siyah kernel while I was on Timin8r's stock rom, but now I'm running AOKP and I don't know any current kernel compatible with that.
Siah kernel, but works on stock kernel too (except 192MHz). Values are changed manually.
i have already ordered the Xperia T But hope that it will not dissapoint me Devices with 2GB are out of my reach and in my country i found xperia T the fastest in my current budget
You won't be disappointed. It is good device. But has some disadvantages. Just like other devices.
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i have already ordered the Xperia T But hope that it will not dissapoint me Devices with 2GB are out of my reach and in my country i found xperia T the fastest in my current budget
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I'm sure you will enjoy it. The Xperia T is quite fast and capable.
One more question , Does modern combat 4 run smooth on this device ? And are the graphics high like s3?
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One more question , Does modern combat 4 run smooth on this device ? And are the graphics high like s3?
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My exp. with mc4, laggy. We do only have 1g RAM
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tr33z said:
My exp. with mc4, laggy. We do only have 1g RAM
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Its got f*** all to do with ram. 1gig is enough. We get full effects like the galaxy s3, and as mentioned in earlier comments adjusting the throttling works wonders. This game never lags for me.
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I basically want every game till date to be playable. Possible?
Bit worried about new Modern Combat 5 and Dead Trigger 2 though.
I can get xperia T (or TX) for 320$ in my country and it is a really really great phone (I tried it in one shopping mall) so...
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I basically want every game till date to be playable. Possible?
Bit worried about new Modern Combat 5 and Dead Trigger 2 though.
I can get xperia T (or TX) for 320$ in my country and it is a really really great phone (I tried it in one shopping mall) so...
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Gameloft have started adding graphics setting to their games which is a good move, so I imagine MC5 will have them. Dunno about dead trigger 2 but they normally optimize their games well. I have a lot of games, they all work fine after reducing the thermal throttling. Only problems you might face is games being unavailable such as a few flu titles, but device spoofing takes care of that. My phone sometimes shuts down from online gaming because the battery can't take the stress, but as long as the throttle allows 12420000 or lower it rarely happens unless battery is low. Plus a friend is trying to make a fix for it, by putting out a voltage based on averages, rather than having a voltage that is too high then it dropping too low under pressure . Also its the same chip as USA version of GS3
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Dead Trigger 1 plays smooth on my Cortex A5 800Mhz and Adreno 200. :\ Few lags here and there but nothing noticeable... I think this will handle Dead Trigger 2... Subway Surfers lags like hell though.
How about N.O.V.A 3 and MC4? I just worry about constant non-playable frame rates. I can't judge by YouTube. Do you get smooth experience with Adreno 225?
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Dead Trigger 1 plays smooth on my Cortex A5 800Mhz and Adreno 200. :\ Few lags here and there but nothing noticeable... I think this will handle Dead Trigger 2... Subway Surfers lags like hell though.
How about N.O.V.A 3 and MC4? I just worry about constant non-playable frame rates. I can't judge by YouTube. Do you get smooth experience with Adreno 225?
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Yeah its pretty good. My shutdowns are getting bad though. If you get one of these get one with a 1780mah battery, the 1850mah is fatally flawed
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I am actually getting 1750mah Xperia TX.
Good! @peetr_ is going to replace his with a 1780mah variant, if this solves the problem I may have to do this too
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Since i noticed lags in games i tried to figure out whats wrong with my phone, and finally found app named Quick System Info PRO (its free) and there is an option "live monitor" which shows cpu freq and usage per every core in on screen widget, which is staint over most content on screen including games. I've played some titles like GTA3, NFS most wanted, shadowgun etc. and every single game uses ony one core scaling usualy between 1000-1500 MHz with approx. 70-100% usage. I've tried same thing on my nexus 7 (android 4.2.2) and everything runs very fast and it uses 2-3 cores scaled around 600-1000 MHz with 20-40% usage.
There is no problem in chrome, antutu they're using more cores, this happens only in games (every title I've played have the same issue even THD titles)
so whats the matter? is it ICS fault? Do you have the same issue? is there any way to fix it or will JB updade fix it?
I'm using stock LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012 firmware, phone is rooted.
I've noticed exactly the same thing as you, I've checked with the "hidden code" to check for core speeds
really strange i wish someone to fix this bug is really disappointed quad core 1gb ram tegra 3 and lag all games
+ tegra games.... lets think possitive...
Is there any way to fix it? hope JB will solve everything
Something I saw in the one x forum which I will try when I get home is limiting the max frequency to 1ghz, as it won't use all 4 cores any higher than this because of overheat. More likely the cause is bad optimization
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Yes, what you say is somewhat true. When the core of the phone hits 40 degrees celsius, it clocks at a lower speed and that's when you see the "slow charging" even though you plug it in a wall socket.
Xenogenics said:
Yes, what you say is somewhat true. When the core of the phone hits 40 degrees celsius, it clocks at a lower speed and that's when you see the "slow charging" even though you plug it in a wall socket.
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What I read was 1500mhz: 1 core, 1100-1400: 2 to 3 cores and >1000mhz: 4 cores. I know of the temperature setting also. Tested this with NFS MW, I noticed no improvements but neither did it perform any worse which is interesting for a game that's not the smoothest
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Just like normal computers, if a piece of software is not designed to use multi threading.. then it will only use one cpu.
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Just like normal computers, if a piece of software is not designed to use multi threading.. then it will only use one cpu.
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Yep its mostly devs fault, however they should be using it anyway because they are compatible with galaxy s3? Could it be possible to hack it so it uses the s3 configuration and achieve multiple for usage, or is it impossible across different chipsets? I don't get it, I've seen that most games we complain about do not have these issues on the HTC one x
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You can modify build.prop to look like that of a galaxy s3 (edit model, manufacturer etc..), might trigger it, but that might create problems with other apps (including play store)
I think it's just bad programming since there are functions in android java that will allow you to get the number of cores, so then.. you can enable multi threading... not sure why they would use device detection or whatever.. I mean if a device got 4 cpus, it got 4 cpus! doesnt have to be a bloody s3
I think it's ICS 4.0.3 fault, like I said before everything runs smooth on Nexus 7 which have 4.2.2 and notice that one X already have 4.1.2.
Suprising fact I've found on polish wikipedia is improvements list of 4.1.2 and line that says:
"optymalizacja wydajności w grach dla procesorów NVidia Tegra 3 i kart graficznych NVidia GeForce ULP"
which means: "In-game performance optimalisation for NVidia Tegra 3 proccessors and NVidia GeForce ULP graphics cards"
Hope thats true
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I think it's ICS 4.0.3 fault, like I said before everything runs smooth on Nexus 7 which have 4.2.2 and notice that one X already have 4.1.2.
Suprising fact I've found on polish wikipedia is improvements list of 4.1.2 and line that says:
"optymalizacja wydajności w grach dla procesorów NVidia Tegra 3 i kart graficznych NVidia GeForce ULP"
which means: "In-game performance optimalisation for NVidia Tegra 3 proccessors and NVidia GeForce ULP graphics cards"
Hope thats true
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Well like you say they run fine on other hardware, HD games must have multi threading support for these and the galaxy s3, so the question is why aren't they using it for ours? Must be the software, even forcing all cores online does nothing to help.
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If it uses handset detection, and detects HOX and it ticks it as supported, then its going to work because it will activate multithreading.. but probably it doesnt detect the lg 4x as supported... because IMO, it uses the wrong detection (device based) to determine mutithreading.
Tcm9669 said:
If it uses handset detection, and detects HOX and it ticks it as supported, then its going to work because it will activate multithreading.. but probably it doesnt detect the lg 4x as supported... because IMO, it uses the wrong detection (device based) to determine mutithreading.
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So editing build.prop might work?
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---------- Post added at 12:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 AM ----------
In fact I want to test your theory but can't find the one x build.prop
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wlodarsdz said:
Since i noticed lags in games i tried to figure out whats wrong with my phone, and finally found app named Quick System Info PRO (its free) and there is an option "live monitor" which shows cpu freq and usage per every core in on screen widget, which is staint over most content on screen including games. I've played some titles like GTA3, NFS most wanted, shadowgun etc. and every single game uses ony one core scaling usualy between 1000-1500 MHz with approx. 70-100% usage. I've tried same thing on my nexus 7 (android 4.2.2) and everything runs very fast and it uses 2-3 cores scaled around 600-1000 MHz with 20-40% usage.
There is no problem in chrome, antutu they're using more cores, this happens only in games (every title I've played have the same issue even THD titles)
so whats the matter? is it ICS fault? Do you have the same issue? is there any way to fix it or will JB updade fix it?
I'm using stock LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012 firmware, phone is rooted.
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Its not exactly our phones fault that most games using 1 core, in-fact almost all apps runs using 1 core they are not yet optimized to use multi-core,in our case its little developers fault and little ICS fault.
Also I am still confused why you people complain about lags? This device is very smooth and I play HD games on my (50 inch full HD) TV with my PS3 bluetooth controller(specially bought for gaming on 4X) and it runs just fine. I play Shadow Gun deadzone online with no lags(even with tiny lag - single frame skip means I am dead)...etc NFS MW runs fine too rarely it runs little slow in first few seconds of race but later it becomes fine.
I had issues with heat and battery drain problem to overcome this I have underclock my device to 4cores 1.2ghz (Governor - onthedemand) and even after underclocking it runs all my games fine. I have read (never tested) for gaming governor - Performance is i deal but battery drains faster.
However similar complains were there in HTC OneX as well until it gets updated to JB.
So I assume this issue should get resolved with JB update.
shazmekool said:
Its not exactly our phones fault that most games using 1 core, in-fact almost all apps runs using 1 core they are not yet optimized to use multi-core,in our case its little developers fault and little ICS fault.
Also I am still confused why you people complain about lags? This device is very smooth and I play HD games on my (50 inch full HD) TV with my PS3 bluetooth controller(specially bought for gaming on 4X) and it runs just fine. I play Shadow Gun deadzone online with no lags(even with tiny lag - single frame skip means I am dead)...etc NFS MW runs fine too rarely it runs little slow in first few seconds of race but later it becomes fine.
I had issues with heat and battery drain problem to overcome this I have underclock my device to 4cores 1.2ghz (Governor - onthedemand) and even after underclocking it runs all my games fine. I have read (never tested) for gaming governor - Performance is i deal but battery drains faster.
However similar complains were there in HTC OneX as well until it gets updated to JB.
So I assume this issue should get resolved with JB update.
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The worst games are nova 3 and amazing spiderman, if you can figure how to make them run smooth I'll be happy, most others are playable on my phone
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Update: If gaming is your top priority I recommend downgrading to v10d until.this jb update comes, I haven't checked of all cores were used but most wanted was much smoother, also phone got very hot! Tried amazing Spiderman which was unplayable, its still quite slow but is possible to play, going to test nova 3 next
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Tried nova 3, very playable, slight frame drops but nothing bad, similar to playing mc4 online over 3g
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Odp: [Q] Only one core used in gaming, why?
Could you try to run real racing 3 with high graphic for me?
xtynekk said:
Could you try to run real racing 3 with high graphic for me?
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Ok but could take a while, downloading on 3g
Edit: can't download, progress bar is stuck at empty, checked file size, not increasing,
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I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?
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I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?
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Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz
im8a said:
Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz
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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?
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Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?
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I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .
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I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .
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If you are not a core android fans and not keen in getting a gaming phone, I would recommand touch 5+another phone. Touch 5 has great spec and ios has great compatibility for apps.(Even the "oblique" touch4 can run most games and apps today though a lot are laggy due to only 256 mbram...) It can outweigh all android phones in almost all games in similar price range.
Maybe you can also consider Nvidia Shield(299 US Dollars) in near future, it might be a fantastic gaming gadget.
For xperia play, I am using AuroraPlay(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124442&nocache=1)
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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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___guilherme___ said:
How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/