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Both the L9 and 4X HD have more or less the same price here. Which is better?
I have read this:
L9 - better batterylife
L9 - better JB update
4X - better 720p HD screen
4X - better Quad Core Tegra 3
what do you guys think?
alexuz said:
hello
Both the L9 and 4X HD have more or less the same price here. Which is better?
I have read this:
L9 - better batterylife
L9 - better JB update
4X - better 720p HD screen
4X - better Quad Core Tegra 3
what do you guys think?
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4x hd. It has nfc and jb soon. Plus tegra 3 ulp geforce graphics. And eternitry kernel soon.
alexuz said:
hello
Both the L9 and 4X HD have more or less the same price here. Which is better?
I have read this:
L9 - better batterylife
L9 - better JB update
4X - better 720p HD screen
4X - better Quad Core Tegra 3
what do you guys think?
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i think is not comparable. both devices have more differences than similar...
is dual core/quad core, IPS LCD/True HD IPS LCD, simple display/gorilla glass, 5 Mb/8 Mb camera, and more...
i think i can not compare that devices, is totally different...
I thought 4X HD already has Jb out now and some people do not like it for some reason?
It has JB now. And I like the phone and all ways have..
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4X is way better in the 3 most critical aspects: 1) Screen 2) Processor 3) Available user internal memory
The only advantages of L9 is the battery and the fact that is getting faster the updates.
It's crazy if someone buys the L9 instead of 4X.
ipred said:
4X is way better in the 3 most critical aspects: 1) Screen 2) Processor 3) Available user internal memory
The only advantages of L9 is the battery and the fact that is getting faster the updates.
It's crazy if someone buys the L9 instead of 4X.
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+1 to this. Its not rocket science. 4X is in a different class than the l9.
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I don't even know why we have quad cores.
Please tell me what you do where it really comes in handy. All it does it waste battery... A lot of games lags, because of no optimization
Aeternus Eternus said:
I don't even know why we have quad cores.
Please tell me what you do where it really comes in handy. All it does it waste battery... A lot of games lags, because of no optimization
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..well, the games that are optimized (or run on arm7 vfp optimised code (like iPhone ports)), they run surprisingly well. Riptide, Puddle, Horn, that sort of thing. The relatively simpler games that run well, run really well... Sword and Sworcery, Canabalt (doesn't have the slowdown on the glass-break, etc). Tried some other games that run physics on the normal instruction set - they're very fast.
What lags to some degree it seems to me are the games that are supposed to run on a "dedicated" graphics card module, and have been tweaked for that, possibly with some hairy direct addressing for some effects, etc. EA games and their studios, typical offenders. But those games actually don't run flawlessly on other chipsets either. They tend to have reasonably good max fps, but also get slowdowns. NFS Carbon, at least, was like that.
Sure is a good point about quad-core phones in general, though.. If there wasn't power-gating on the tegra chipsets, it'd mean draining the battery in no time, regardless of what you would do. So just "quad-core", just to have quad-core, this isn't much point. That's also why many manufacturers go away from the quad Arm designs, and instead make extra "cores" on the gpu/microcore part (which is just marketing spin because more cores apparently is better.. makes very little sense to talk about separate cores like that, but never mind).
But when you have basically a gpu on each core, and all the cores are able to dynamically clock up and down, and idle extremely fast - then you have an option to run relatively heavy functions without raising the clock-speed to the ceiling, etc. And that is valuable for any mobile chipset.
And it's the only method for really getting any sort of reasonably high performance and high response(or lack of bandwidth issues) out of a passively cooled system. Which.. we've already seen too, with some of the very good tegra3 titles that are out already...
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i only bought the lg 2x for 3 weeks, and this is sad to watch.
However, i don't see the point of the gpu being such powerful, since android does not have any thing to push the gpu at all besides benchmark. This is a good way to make myself feel better.
I would like to know is there difference between Tegra 2 cpu vs Exynos cpu at all?? besides Exynos gpu being so much more powerful than Tegra 2?
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oh thats just terrible
Now my O2x are completely useless - it will just stop functioning im sure
No wait - thats not right - whats happening, it still works ? My games still play, I can still read the news, I can still do all the things I did yesterday.
It's just a benchmark - does it really matter that much ?
Those are just numbers in my opinion.
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I might have wrong, but that benchmark is made for mobile gpus and tegra 2 is not like normal mobile gpus it's more like a desktop gpu. A eight core gpu can't be beaten by a quad core or?
Tegra is our one, probably futile, hope of future proofing our phones.
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Don't expect Tegra to lead benchmarks for a while until mobile graphics are more geared towards immediate mode rendering (Stuff more like PC graphics.). Everyone else uses Tile-based rendering. I believe NVidia did this to avoid changing the rendering (which changes the drivers even more and etc) once they reach "console-level" graphics. The Tegra 2 will excel in a few things. Don't expect it to be the best performer for now. Expect it to be a capable one.
Don't forget. SGS II is capped to 60fps and we won't know what it's truly capable of
I've seen several gaming videos and the tegra walks all over the Orion. I do agree that push for tegras are the last hope for a unified gaming platform and I think it will work. Nvidia has this backed and will see it through.
i am really sick of the fact every android phone has its own different games on each platform. same game cant be run on different android phones. this is stupid.
its one of the reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once. you see all those samsung galaxy S2 hardware. but where all the games ? those same games i can play on nexus S. with good frames too. however with nvidia and tegra 2, the users are getting exclusive games that can take advantage of the hardware. thats nice for a change.
let the galaxy S2 owners have fun with there powerful phone on paper. at the end of the day. the Tegra 2 owners are the people who are getting the best looking games.
i am not saying i hate S2. because i will buy it as soon as i can. i love super amoled and the techs for the phone. but if i want a pure gaming phone. tegra 2 wins hands down. not because its the most powerful. but because there are exclusive games that take advantage of that GPU.
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ithe reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once.
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
rd_nest said:
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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this video shows at how the flash player performance is on web browsing watching a video and at this point watching an anime on both phones
so you can see that samsung galaxy with exynos and with 1.2ghz against lg2x nvidia tegra2 with 1ghz and lg optimus 2x seems for me faster for playing videos at this ..!i wanna only know if lg use stock 2.2.2 at this video against samsung galaxy s2 2.3.3 stock
lets compare those two videos and see that there are no differences between samsung s 2 and lg2x
and again dont forget...lg 2x has stock 2.2.2 rom
samsung galaxy s 2 has gingerbread 2.3.3 wich supposed to be faster..
think that when lg 2x will get official ginger 2.3.4 at this summer
gaming comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo
web browsing comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO0gSLf73AI
Shocky2 said:
No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
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True, and Nvidia is causing fragmentation by using their own compression formats. Afaik Mali supports the one and only standard format, but that don't help much when Nvidia is paying off devs to use their proprietary stuff. Yeah not very techical i know, but check out the SGS2 thread for more info.
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hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
It's so much faster than the sgx540 in the nexus it's ridiculous and since my choice was between those two I'm very happy with it.
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Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
Funkym0nkey said:
Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
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thanks for this info sir
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
anjath said:
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
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Yeah well Scott Adams is wayyyyyyy past his heyday (heck, even being relevant).... haven't read him since 2007 or so, when he started dabbling in intelligent design woo and sexist claptrap...
for being a heavy mobile gamer
i can assure you that the mali 400 on the note does very well with the latest games (asphalt7, dead trigger to name a few) despite having to compute for a much higher resolution display than other phones...
and with a little overclocking (tegrak app or gl notecore kernel) gpu performance can get sky high.
best phone i ever got :victory:
GAME ON said:
hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
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The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
Whiskeyjack4855 said:
The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
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The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
Kangal said:
The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
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I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
Whiskeyjack4855 said:
I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
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Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
Some serious thread necromancy going on here!
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Kangal said:
Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
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By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
Whiskeyjack4855 said:
By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
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Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
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Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
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Would you be kind enough to educate me about your setup?
Kangal said:
Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
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Exactly. Even though the Playbook has its many flaws (owned two both with screen/USB issues) it was a powerhouse. Multimedia was outstanding and web surfing was by far the fastest.
But the OS, QNX, is to thank for that. If the Playbook was running android it would be nothing out of the ordinary. As much as I love Android it really is not as efficiant as QNX
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anything on market today is outdated tommorow
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Recently I had a doubt about if it's possible to unlock the 2 locked remaining cores in the Galaxy Note N7000? Because I realize that the Note only uses 2 of the 4 GPU cores... It's there a possibility to do this? How?
i think mali 400 is a good GPU because Note1 and Note2 using it. and really nice GPU for gaming
hi guys i was wondering the "lg optimus black " has a "ti omap 3630" and the lg optimus l7 has "Qualcomm MSM7227A"
people say that "ti omap 3630" is better than "Qualcomm MSM7227A" but the wiered thing when playing games like asphalt 7
the "Qualcomm MSM7227A" wins and doesnt lag like "ti omap 3630" in the optimus black why is that
Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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agree , because we have a cortex a8 + a powervrsgx530 which should well ,, its same as the iphone 4 but with a bit less powerfull gpu
msm7227a have cortex-a5
cant record and play hd video
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7227a&c=qualcomm_msm7227a
its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
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its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
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well , can u be sure that the ics for our optimus black will be better than gingerbread ??
normally ics with removed unnecessary apps would be faster than our existing gb
So will we be able to run Asphalt 7 that smooth?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2xI9ofctQ
since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
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since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
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i hope the official ice cream sandwich would be better imconfident that lg will because lg is not that type of "several upgrades" company if u know what i mean ,, its just a simple equation. if its done the this would be perfect
better drivers + better system = awesome performance
lg has other phones to sell that's a reason why they might not update and also, they have opted for two updates as compared to other companies who provide only one
Which one is better in real world gaming/calling/battery life/3g brwsing/gpu/cpu performance customs roms, more easy to overclock best quality phone?
Atrix HD's battery is crap. As far as gaming, some non-tegra games might run better on the Atrix because of the optimization with Adreno GPU's. Take for example MC4. It has hiccups when i play it on my O4X, but it is buttery silky smooth on my Nexus 4. There are no custom roms available for the O4X because of a locked bootloader...therefore no way to overclock yet. Unless you're a kernel dev that could help in that category.
If you're looking to buy a phone and you development is a big deal for you, then go with the Atrix HD. If you don't care about development and just want a solid phone that you can count on, then the O4X is a wiser choice. I honestly don't feel like i have the need for overclocking or custom roms. Just like my Nexus 4. There are tons of custom roms and mods available for it, but i prefer to run it bone stock but with a custom kernel.
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Atrix HD's battery is crap. As far as gaming, some non-tegra games might run better on the Atrix because of the optimization with Adreno GPU's. Take for example MC4. It has hiccups when i play it on my O4X, but it is buttery silky smooth on my Nexus 4. There are no custom roms available for the O4X because of a locked bootloader...therefore no way to overclock yet. Unless you're a kernel dev that could help in that category.
If you're looking to buy a phone and you development is a big deal for you, then go with the Atrix HD. If you don't care about development and just want a solid phone that you can count on, then the O4X is a wiser choice. I honestly don't feel like i have the need for overclocking or custom roms. Just like my Nexus 4. There are tons of custom roms and mods available for it, but i prefer to run it bone stock but with a custom kernel.
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How`s battery life on O4X? and cpu performace tegra 3 vs "krait" S4?and for updating android which one has more support for updates?, what you mean with solid? and what happens if in the future O4X doesnt support new Android systems? bcuz it has locked bootloader so I cant install new custom roms?
Battery life on the O4X is decent. I get a whole day's worth with medium use. As far as Tegra 3 vs Q Krait S4 im sure there are plenty of video comparisons on youtube you can check out. As far as updates are concerned, since Motorola has been bought by Google you can count on the Atrix HD to receive its updates faster than the O4X. And because the O4X has a locked bootloader, there will be no custom roms to fulfill your flashaholic needs. That is until we get some devs who are willing to work on the phone. But until that time comes, if you're a flashaholic...go for the Atrix HD.
When i said a solid phone, i meant that the phone doesn't have any bugs or anything...so you can always count on it on being available for you to use.
someone else with some more useful info?
My 4X only laggs on games like MC4/gtaVC when i set the cpu under 1200mhz
Edit: and games run silk smooth on 1500 with performance setting
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My 4X only laggs on games like MC4/gtaVC when i set the cpu under 1200mhz
Edit: and games run silk smooth on 1500 with performance setting
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what about gamming and battery life?
Battery life: i tested, and my phone will easily standby 500+ hours(in airplane mode, with 3g activated, no data: it failed after the half. About 250-280 hrs.) When constantly gaming Dead Space (only game i tested the actual time on) it lasted 2 hrs 07 minutes on full performance mode. Again with no lag whatsoever(dead space wont lag on a optimus 2x or ever weaker phones though)
I did test on a older version of Counter Strike aswell(i found it the apk on my pc. Cant remember where i got it from) - and it did start lagging when i took it on a match with me and 15 AI`s (that is, 15 guys controlled by the phone) there my battery lasted 3+ something hours (from 100%) before i got the 5% warning.
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Could probably point out that while the battery life while gaming is a bit short - when I've tested it, it's been on average a full hour better than the competing quad-core phones when running the same game side by side.. not completely sure why that happens when comparing it to other tegra 3 phones, though.. Assuming it has something to do with the scheduler policy, along with the slightly larger battery, or something of that sort. Aside from that.. a snapdragon setup uses more power on average, and idles on a massively higher power-draw. Always been a problem with those soc designs - that the antennas and modules need to be powered on completely when there's power on the phone at all. Btw - really did manage to have the 4x run 11 days while online on the gsm network once. Didn't use the phone much - but it really is easy to get the phone to last three-four days if you don't run anything heavy. And by heavy, I don't mean just editing photos, or having the screen lit up, or something like that. I mean something that constantly runs on full processor load.
Power-draw while just playing back music and movies as well is top class. You don't read that in the reviews for some inexplicable reason.... having to do with Engadget being in love with Apple, to the point where they hate on anything that threatens to dethrone their precious princess or something. But it's still the case. This tegra 3 chip with an ips screen/gorilla glass, slim chassis w/replaceable battery/memory card slot - is a very neat design.
What? The power draw when playing music is the only thing that let me down when using this phone! Even my old xperia x8 could do better!
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I meant compared to other modern smartphones
Could put it this way - if you want support for lossless formats, dynamic bitrate, ogg, that sort of thing - then this is the most effective system by far. Since you have power management that is transparent to the OS, and so on, so you can use existing media-players with support for the arm set and get good performance on low clocks/only the companion core, etc.
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I meant compared to other modern smartphones
Could put it this way - if you want support for lossless formats, dynamic bitrate, ogg, that sort of thing - then this is the most effective system by far. Since you have power management that is transparent to the OS, and so on, so you can use existing media-players with support for the arm set and get good performance on low clocks/only the companion core, etc.
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Tested; none of the (free) media players on google play could be run on the companion core. They seem to always run on the 3rd(core2) 1.5ghz core. Putting the freq at a stable 1.1ghz when screen off. And pumping to the full 1.5 when the screen is on...
Not very power saving...
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Hm.. The ones using the arm 7 vfp packs should avoid that. Bsplayer does, at least.. The internal player as well. Same codec pack. The Spotify app actually avoids running on the other cores as well. That instruction set class is not unique for tegra3 either, so it should be fairly commonly used by now.
and getting a higher battery in mAh would help? which models uses O4XHD?
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and getting a higher battery in mAh would help? which models uses O4XHD?
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mAh reflects the storage capacity. Getting the double amount of mAh will basically double your battery life
The only other than the stock battery known to me, must be the mugen powers battery extender-something like that. And that will make your phone look like a brick.
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So recently, a pretty good deal approached me where I have a chance to sell my 4X HD and buy a nexus 4 for a reasonable amonth of money. I was pretty disappointed from the performance in games, camera quality and sound so this deal came in handy, but now when the leaked jelly bean update has been showing pretty good improvements in all ways I dont want to regret selling this phone. As I didnt even hold the nexus 4, just saw a ton of reviews, I'm asking for some advice if I should stick with the phone or change it, from some experienced users.
Do you guys think that the new update will bring much better performance and overall make it on par with the nexus 4?? What advantages would I get getting the nexus 4 in this case ( battery, screen, etc)
Thanks..
Battery is somewhat improved but still not amazing, games also improved a little, shadowgun thd for example now doesnt lag at all. Im curious to see how development goes with the unlocked bootloader, but if someone gave me a nexus 4 to swap i would. The question is how much money will you lose, and is it worth it? Personally ive always wanted a nexus phone for googles support but wouldnt pay the prices
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I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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alekthefirst said:
I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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Mine plays ok, just lags in first few seconds, did the same in 10h
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Take the nexus, at least then it's 100% unlockable from the get-go.
objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little
Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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Nexus 4 is better but it depends on how much you're paying for the upgrade.
exFAT said:
Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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true word.
Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
any personal experience ??
I think that nexus 4 is much better because it has much better hardware and awesome software support
reas0n said:
objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little
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Is it really possible to get 3.4 kernel unless nvidia releases sources? I doubt it since Nexus 7 running tegra 3 has only 3.1.10, I would too love to see 3.4 kernel on o4x.
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I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so
ljubisa_sk said:
I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so
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You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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I think its devs fault, some games are perfectly smooth! Shadowgun thd that lagged on ics works great on jb. The problem is devs arent making their games use multiple cores yet they are putting them on high graphics, causing lags. Whats strange is if you look at tegra phones on nvidia site the optimus 4x isnt listed. Something about LG power management must make it hard to allow multithreading in games compared to.the one x
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nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
WillySonicteam said:
The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
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You don't have a clue do you?
First it's not same chipset: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_3#Tegra_3
Second more important there is no need for battery saver on console...
Third: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI
when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.
LamerDuck said:
when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.
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Ouch! It only comes in 8gb? Didnt realize that, i got my 4x for gaming
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Mahalsk said:
Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
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The "my phone can last 2 days with no problem" shouldn't be taken as a thuth, my p880 can last 2 days without a problem but only if i use it lightly.
You should investigate how many hours will it last when gaming, watching movies or internet and then you will know if it really worth the hassle of getting a new phone.
And by the way, if the nexus has no expandable memory then you better be sure you won't need it, i'm not the kind of guy that stores 5 full movies or even 1000 songs but with only 5 or 6 games, a few apps and like 300 songs i already got 8 GB full out of the 12 GB available on my p880.
What i would do is wait until the official release of the JB for my P880, i'm pretty sure they will fix a LOT of things in that version including gaming, internet, apps and they will unlock the BL (just be realistic and don't expect your phone to become ultra mega fast and that the battery will run for 30 days straight without charge)
This Leaked release version of Jelly bean is obviosly incomplete and with several bugs and honestly i think LG leaked this version just to get rid of the people who were trying to hack their site.
Be patient and you'll be fine.
P.S. excuse my broken english, it's not my native language.