Remark on GPS and position of the phone - LG Optimus Black

As often we see comments about bad or no fix of the GPS i tried a test regarding the actual position of the phone during taking.
Surprisingly enough the worst was the phone in normal position (vertical).
Best with least drops and highest level on all satellites was tilted to left ( landscape) and slightly forward about 15-20 degrees.
The following screenshots were from a serie of test on hot start without moving. Both taken with A-GPS on as to give maximum theoretical precision.
As always device to device things are different but it is still worth considering.
P.s. I will do a follow up with no internet and A-GPS just to have a complete test.
And feel welcome to submit your results too.

IZS v0.4, with v30B baseband
This was a cold start, without any internet connection.
The phone was inside my car (stopped), vertically aligned (90 degrees).
Actually, this is one of the best performances I ever had with this phone xD
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von Mandrake said:
IZS v0.4, with v30B baseband
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Can you take one from the same position in horizontal please.

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Google Maps and Note - Is 10 meters good?

Howdy,
So I have been playing with my note and I absolutely adore it! One question though, is being within 10 meters good for the note or do some of you all get lower like 3 meters?
I remember I use to always get 3 meters on my infuse when I had it.
I'd like opinions on both indoors and outdoors.
Thanks!
Angieutc
What??
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GNote has glonass and gps so no doubt it could work better than infuse. Accuracy depends upon the the signal quality (like if you have clear sky signal is good and it can connect more than 2 satellites). I am getting upto 6meter with little cloud on open sky. Indoor am getting around 20 mts with sensor aiding enabled.
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kyrirhcp said:
What??
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What don't you understand? I'm simply asking does getting 10 meters on Google Maps sound about accurate for the Note or is 3 meters better?
Meaning, when you hit GMaps and it finds your location -- How many meters does yours settle at?
Correct me (politely) if I am asking this wrong.
Yes. How many less do you need?
milestoner said:
Yes. How many less do you need?
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As I said in my original post, a previous phone I had got down to 3 meters. Hence, I wanted to compare.
No more. No less.
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Yes. How many less do you need?
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If it's as precise with centimetres or even with millimeters consumer will be happy...but no one's gonna launch a missile with help of this..just out of curiosity..
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I remember reading in a review of the note that the 10m thing is just a reporting issue. Actual accuracy is higher. For some reason its rounding in metric. You can see it is more accurate in my tracks, etc.
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I remember reading in a review of the note that the 10m thing is just a reporting issue. Actual accuracy is higher. For some reason its rounding in metric. You can see it is more accurate in my tracks, etc.
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This is very helpful information Geeky. Thank you kindly

Unknown issue with auto-shutdown on Galaxy note GT N7000!

Hello everyone!
I have recently purchased a galaxy note, and since then have had a constant problem of auto shutdown, at the beginning it happened once or twice so I didn't even mind, but now its just becoming too frequent for the phone to even be usable!
I can't return the note, and have no warranty (nor money to buy another one). Son no viable solution there.
I sold my previous phone so I could buy the Note, without it I am phoneless.
I have looked EVERYWHERE for a solution and haven't come to one single conclusion yet!
I will now post some facts about the phone's situation:
Model GT N7000
Rooted: yes, via cwm
Rom: Jelly Bean 4.1.2 Beta, flashed via cwm (but the issue occurred on stock ICS, gingerbread and costom ROMs too, stock ROMs where flashed via PC ODIN and mobile ODIN)
Kernel: Phillz flashed via cwm
-Does not shut down while connected to charger (and is charging).
-Tried different kernels and ROMs, official and custom ones, and the bug kept happening.
-Shutdowns are completely random (although I found that using ROM Toolbox and setting CPU min to 500 and governor to Performance the phone became more stable and didn't shutdown so frequently. Recently these last 3 days this has become pointless, the phone is unusable unless connected to charger)
-Auto shutdowns happen when phone is in sleep, or awake, no matter what I am doing with it, it just happens.
I am thinking of replacing the battery, since no matter what software changes I do it keeps shutting down maybe a new battery will help.
But then again, I don't know, I'm just desperate...
Thank you for all those who take the time to read this!
Interesting, maybe the logs show something. Check logcat app for that. Elixer2 has a good overviewable one. There might be some hints shown as to what is happening. I cant really help you with interpreting.
Do you do clean installs? mind the brickbug
Battery levels, they show correct values? Also after reboot same value as before? You can set in settings, display I think battery tp percent. Easier monitoring from statusbar.
Try andrometer to check voltage levels as wel. Fully charged should be around 4200 mv.
Do a little dance to brighten up your mood.
Next, or first, check if battery contacts are clean and alligned when putting battery in. It might just be a loose fitting. I doubt that thought.
With autoshutdown, you seen android saying, shutting down now, or does it go black and just crashes so to speak?
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Thank you so much for the help!
I have been suggested to purchase another battery, and had actually been thinking about that!
Will andrometer confirm my suspicions that it is a battery issue?
The battery connectors are clean, cleaned them when this problem first appeared.
And the shutdown is as if I suddenly removed the battery, the power is cut right off the device.
I cant dance but I'll play guitar, that always helps me, thank you for the suggestion! xD
hum, not software related imo, really an hardware issue, electrical issue, related to battery as it does not occur while charged.
first of all: easily done: remove any SD card and try. still the Pb?
then borrow another battery, fully charged, and try. Still the PB?
then with your own battery again (as it does not come from the battery), check the electrical contacts (dirty, embossed...), try to check that mechanically the battery is firmly kept in place, add sticky tape/pieces of paper to maintain the battery. Still the PB?
then i am afraid that the best to do is going to... after sale service... it may be only a small welding a bit cracked on the power circuit, sometimes a small vibration or a temperature difference opens the power line and your phone immediately shut down. It is almost impossible to locate and to fix for common people.
good luck mate !
Side note: setting CPU min to 500 and then setting governor to Performance is pointless, because performance = always max CPU frequency.
Anyway, I can think of various ways of checking whether your CPU is misbehaving at some frequencies (like SetCPU stress tests on different freqs set to both min and max) but that's likely not the case, all signs do point to some kind of battery issue.
If I were you, I'd try to find a battery somewhere (friend/relative/whoever else with GNote, or even a shop) and see if the problem persists with another battery. If it disappears = buy a new battery, whether official or copy or bigger size, whatever. If it persists = at least try to flash some more customizable rom/kernel combination, of ICS kind - where you can over/under-clock/volt.
Thank you saturax555 and GwynBleidd for your suggestions!
Unfortunatlly I dont know anyone close to me that has got a Gnote, but I will buy the battery and test it out, its not expensive at all, I've seen a 2600 (Or 2400, can't quite remember) mha battery for salle somewhere, if it fixes the issue I'll even end up with a larger battery!
I'll inform you guys of the results after I get a new battery, so if anyone else has the same problem we can help them too
RubenLockheart said:
Thank you so much for the help!
I have been suggested to purchase another battery, and had actually been thinking about that!
Will andrometer confirm my suspicions that it is a battery issue?
The battery connectors are clean, cleaned them when this problem first appeared.
And the shutdown is as if I suddenly removed the battery, the power is cut right off the device.
I cant dance but I'll play guitar, that always helps me, thank you for the suggestion! xD
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+1 on all above comments. It does appear battery/ hardware issue. Lets hope a new battery fixes it.
Andrometer will only confirm if charging level is reached. Also you can use it to check if at certain voltage this occures. It gives false positive on good health battery.So thats not a thorough indicator.
Guitar is way cooler btw :thumbup:
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I searched for andrometer and all I got was an app to measure distance using GPS :s
So I got battery spy today and these are the results so far (See image).
My voltage is usually around 3900mV and 4300mV, usually at 4192mV, can anyone say if these values are normal??
RubenLockheart said:
I searched for andrometer and all I got was an app to measure distance using GPS :s
So I got battery spy today and these are the results so far (See image).
My voltage is usually around 3900mV and 4300mV, usually at 4192mV, can anyone say if these values are normal??
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Appears normal. Battery appears charged. app is called androsensor, mixed them up.
Do you get weird artifacts prior to fallout? Like screen flickering, lines and such?
Am so interested in cracking this nut.
You could check emmc brickbug app. You will have bug as all notes, but it also does a sector check. Like if part of emmc is corrupted. Am not expecting this to be case as clearly its battery related. Just want to be sure.
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No flickering or anything, it's just like if I suddenly removed the battery.
Got new results from emmc check and I downloaded andrometer
Thank you so much for your help!
Cool.
I have a hunch its not battery, cause unstable battery usually(not 100% sure about symptoms) has those flickering issues.
Its not emmc, test passed yes!
you had it on different roms. With clean installs and different modems, kernels, etc. No common denominator romwise. maybe app or hardware.
Then its interesting to keep both cpu temp and battery temp in check. See if there are spikes prior to fallout. cpu temp I am not sure. you can try cooltool, disable gauges and setup cpu utilization, frequency, ram size, battery % and temperature.
watch those values for abnormalities when it occurs.
Also check the logs for errors/warnings (elixer2 has a good one)
But I am at a point of really guessing. I have a feeling its hardware but am hoping now for rogue app or battery still.
maybe someone else has some ideas.
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Hey guys! My new battery just arrived and I just plugged it into my note and it is back to normal!
It's an official galaxy note replacement battery, 2600mah (100 more then the original, not much of a difference I know) and it was relatively cheap, 15 euros and I even had it delivered to my house!
I want to thank you guys for all your help and advices!
Thank you all from the heart! You contributed to making me a lot happier today!!
Best wishes for all of you, (dare I call you) my friends!
Thank you!
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Hey guys! My new battery just arrived and I just plugged it into my note and it is back to normal!
It's an official galaxy note replacement battery, 2600mah (100 more then the original, not much of a difference I know) and it was relatively cheap, 15 euros and I even had it delivered to my house!
I want to thank you guys for all your help and advices!
Thank you all from the heart! You contributed to making me a lot happier today!!
Best wishes for all of you, (dare I call you) my friends!
Thank you!
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No problem m8, thats what we are here for. Am helped with Q's myself so often, guess we all want to help back
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No problem m8, thats what we are here for. Am helped with Q's myself so often, guess we all want to help back
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I had this same issue.. Mine was bought last year.. Just around 2 weeks ago i want to root and put a custom Rom...
I root using cf-root + philz kernel.. Then i flash rocketrom 4.1.2... V3 i think.. Then this issue came.... It 's does have flickering issue before it' s going off.. This all thing doesn't happen while on charge... I'm still not try using others battery..... I also have flash others custom Rom.. Like Ultimate, fusion.... And lastly i unroot it using stock fw at sammobile.. Still it's happen
Try changing the battery, that fixed my note right up!
Is the symptoms are the same as mine its not software related, order a new battery, and if you want you can root and flash the rom that you want so when it arrives your note is ready to go!
Tip: root the note and get battery calibration from the play store, it's free, you will need it to recalibrate your new battery so you get real values displayed and to avoid excessive battery drain.
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I'm facing the same problem and its getting frustrating. I'm currently using Asylum ROM 20130303 build and latest Gapps for android 4.2. did a full wipe. tried checking my battery stats and its normal. did a recovery, flashed again but still problem. my gnote just shutdown and cant turn back on unless i plug the charger. any help?
may be you first need to try with an alternate battery first.. or go back to a stock rom and test.. most prominent symptom is using the camera with flash shuts down the phone immediately
i purchased a new battery and now its running fine
The phone is flawed and shuts off on it's own under various conditions, all hardware related. I am not able to post externally due to not having enough posts yet. However, I have had the same issue on 3 Galaxy Note 2's from Verizon. I made a video that shows exactly what is going on and posted it on the following website...
wwwDOTgalaxynote2shutsoffDOTcom
You will have to paste that link in to a new browser and replace the DOTs accordingly to get to it, but once you see the video, you will be enlightened. Be sure to read the details I provided on that site as well. They go in to detail about the problems that I have had and the lack of proper support that Samsung is willing to provide.
Same issue
nokiamodeln91 said:
may be you first need to try with an alternate battery first.. or go back to a stock rom and test.. most prominent symptom is using the camera with flash shuts down the phone immediately
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I seem to have the same issue
1. Battery drains rather bad
2. Screen flickering
3. Auto shutdowm
Used the battery in my wifes n7000 , however no issues at all
Only seem to happen on my phone.
I flashed it to stock std 4.1.2 , however problem still persist. auto shutdown few times a day
Gets worse when i use an external SD

[Q] camera and notification led

hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
moly82 said:
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
moly82 said:
thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
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Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
moly82 said:
thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
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Haha this phone is really good but I do not want to influence you too much
For me, the panorama works perfectly, there are sometimes default on the picture but the most of the time the panorama do his work as it should
We also have a port of the Nexus 4's camera so Photosphere is available on this device.
The videos are good, it's true that the stabilization is not perfect but the videos are good enough for my taste.
Just to remind you that I'm absolutely not a professional so i can't really judge the camera since I never use a real camera.
Anyway for a normal use and with cm10.1 the camera should be good enough even if it's not the best part of the O4X
Hope that helped you
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One more word on the camera: My wife has a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, which makes not that excellent pictures (quite a little blurry even under optimal conditions). When she took a look at the pics my O4X made, I had trouble getting it back Sure you cannot compare them with a DSLR -- but for the "Amateur", they are pretty good.
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
moly82 said:
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
moly82 said:
thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
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no problem, glad i could help. i hope you're as happy with your future phone as i am with mine :highfive:
guys, I read many threads in this subforum about this phone to see in advance what I will need to do when I get it, and it is not clear to me one thing: is it true that some O4X models can not be unlocked? So if I buy it I should check if I get a "good" one or not? :silly:
(I saw some posts about EUR-xxx etc)
tx!
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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thanks mate you are great! I saw many threads with unlocking procedures but did not see that one sorry!
I was convinced by many threads on this forum to buy this phone, people says, battery life is OK, phone is smooth, camera is OK, then I bought this phone and that was the biggest mistake I did. To clarify:
1. Camera: pictures are not bad but when you want to record a video in a noisy place distortion is all the time, my previous Moto RAZR xt910 recorded video 10x better.
2. Battery life: I tried every combination ROM/Kernel and when I was unplugged my phone at 6:00Am after 12 hours battery was dead. This phone barely lasts 2 hours screen on time. So battery life is worst then every smartphone I had (check signature).
3. Sat Nav. I coudn't use this phone as a SatNav in a car because when you driving and screen is ON car charger can't charge this phone because it's discharging too fast. Result? After few hours the phone is dead unless you turn the screen off and wait for car charger charge the battery.
4. Dust under screen: I was use this phone in usual way, hold in my front jeans pocket, after 2 - 3 monts a big piece of dust poped out in a centre of screen, you can see it on a second picture on my ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330939115679?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Now I rather buy Xperia T then this piece of crap.
That's my opinion, I try to save you cause I regret nobody did it for me.
(sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue)
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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thanks a lot my friend, exact, helpful and clear as always
yes that gps bug would be a big bug for me actually, thanks for letting me know! (i often use gps navigation while phone is connected to the car stereo through headphones to listen to some music so gps malfunctioning would be really a big problem for me!)
strange i did read a lot around about this phone and have never reed anything about that.. thanks again!
well my other choice would be the xperia T but that suffers the reboot bug in cm10.1 and that also is a big bug for me.. really don't know what to do now..
bye and thanks all and good night maybe sleep will take some advice's..
Try using CM Stable with iodak v6 kernel. In my case it gave better battery life and much better performance than any other combination.
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hi guys, sorry for posting again here but i would prefer not to open a new thread.. but if mods want me to do so I will do that!
I have one "final" question about this phone.. :laugh: will all the p880's be bootloader unlockable without exceptions? or if I buy it I should worry about that at the purchase and choose a particular model etc?
(I am asking this because for example for the Xperia T they say that if I get a no-brand one it can be easily unloacked, while if I get a branded one I can't unlock the bootloader at all..! is the same for the LG?)
thanks in advance bye!

[Issues] Camera Overheating and Stop working!

Hey Guys, How are you today?
I am angry as hell, again!
I find another problem with the Z1, I can't believe it. The first one is Touch Screen now If you using the camera continuously for 3, 4 minutes the camera crash and stop working.
I think we all have this problem but not everybody know about that. So make this test like me.
First effect of camera overheating: Before use the camera run Quadrant or AnTuTu Benchmark, with Quadrant you will get around 21600, Antutu 33800. Run the camera and start making pictures with 20mpx for 1 minute, make a pictures with any option. If you are luck the camera will keep going but after that run the Benchmarks again.
After using the Camera you will get around 17000 with Quadrant and 29000 with AnTuTu. 5000 points each less after using the camera.
The real problem is if you will using the camera for 3 minutes, for example you are in holiday and want make pictures, for sure this will take some minutes, the camera will crash.
This is normal for you? I think is something wrong..
I filmed a 15 minute show at 1080p with no issue, the issue is with your device,it is not something that affects all z1's
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Get a replacement, or get another smartphone altogether.
Now hear me out!
Your are inducing this.
The phone is sealed and armed with the latest chipset.
Suprised it gets hot?
I'm happy it lets you know, so the camera doesn't take damage.
It's a pointless test
You seem like you maybe would be happy with something else?
Is this something you face often (like just gaming a few minutes and then switching to camera), and other combinations which you do not intentionally set off?
If all the other symptoms you are reporting all over the forum are not very overplayed, and indeed crippling your device, the outfall is the same, no?
Get a replacement or try differently!
I've taken recordings lasting over ten minutes and used way longer fiddeling with the camera app going, and not a single crash to date.
sofir786 said:
I filmed a 15 minute show at 1080p with no issue, the issue is with your device,it is not something that affects all z1's
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Probably do not effect in recording...only when making pictures...
benziii said:
Get a replacement, or get another smartphone...bla bla bla
....bla bla bla longer fiddeling with the camera app going, and not a single crash to date.
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My friend, I just reporting the issue which people have the right to know. Everybody know if you don't want any problem get an iPhone.
Am I the unlucky here with this phone? Fine, that 's why I am here, I am here for help and share.
You are here only to complain about what people saying.
I am only disappointed and I don't want to give up on this High-End Phone but you don't help me even a bit.
Someone probably will be worry if the phone get hot, have issue or the camera will crash in some circumstances, so to understand that your are free to test the phone, like I do, to understand how use it with any option.
Am I wrong?
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My friend, I just reporting the issue which people have the right to know. Everybody know if you don't want any problem get an iPhone.
Am I the unlucky here with this phone? Fine, that 's why I am here, I am here for help and share.
You are here only to complain about what people saying.
I am only disappointed and I don't want to give up on this High-End Phone but you don't help me even a bit.
Someone probably will be worry if the phone get hot, have issue or the camera will crash in some circumstances, so to understand that your are free to test the phone, like I do, to understand how use it with any option.
Am I wrong?
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You are perfectly allowed to do whatever you want with it, as you bought it, it is yours to meddle with
It is however when you start to post your uncertain findings and experiences as almost facts, that it becomes misleading.
This could hardly help people who are already confused about buying this phone.
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It is however when you start to post your uncertain findings and experiences as almost facts, that it becomes misleading.
This could hardly help people who are already confused about buying this phone.
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On XDA with any device this will be a problem . You know why we are here for. We are here to solve issues, so if somebody want to buy a device should not come in Q&A, Hepl & Troubleshooting, right?
I believe in the potential of XDA, like all the time, so if you don't want people be confused and misleading, help me or tell me is not a problem my camera.
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The real problem is if you will using the camera for 3 minutes, for example you are in holiday and want make pictures, for sure this will take some minutes, the camera will crash.
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BTW, my camera crashed after 3 minutes, what I wrote in bold was just an example when you use the camera more than that. (3 minutes)
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On XDA with any device this will be a problem . You know why we are here for. We are here to solve issues, so if somebody want to buy a device should not come in Q&A, Hepl & Troubleshooting, right?
I believe in the potential of XDA, like all the time, so if you don't want people be confused and misleading, help me or tell me is not a problem my camera.
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I do think it is important to shed light on all the issues and let the public get the full picture.
I'm on my second sony phone now (Didn't really fancy anything sonyericsson made) and wouldn't consider myself a fanboy.
My next device could be anything. RIght now however, I personally don't like the alternatives
If a problem gets mentioned alot, it is better to bump old threads, than make new ones all the time.
Just for the sake of consistency. Helps more when trying to gauge if an issue is widespread, instead of it being scattered all over.
I do not wish to drag this further, as my intention is not to be mean to you.
Also I am swaying off topic and sidetracking your thread.
@benziii, Ok but I really do not hear about this issue on XDA, I sarching on Google and few information I get and 1 video on Youtube, and actually the video reflect the exact same issue as mine.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVDygET6KHQ
So it's software problem related?
I took +- 35 fast photos and the error didnt come, but the phone heats up a bit.
Maybe is not meant to be so stressed.
I have taken more than 1000+ photos with my Z1 (The Sandisk Extreme Plus 64GB MicroSDXC is amazing), and I have yet to see it crash. *touch wood*
Yes, it gets hot after a while, but I've once taken 200+ photos for an event without shutting off the camera app or resetting the phone to cool it down, so it was on for nearly an hour but it never crashed and the battery held up fine, though I look funny in a sea of ppl with their fancy DSLRs.
So I assume you got a faulty phone and should get it replaced.
no probs here, can use the camera all day long and never crashes, is it possible you have many apps running in the background/.
It's not the camera. It happens due to heat. So to cooldown the processor, it will down clocked automatically. For example, If you run few benchmarks & then you start the camera, after a while you will get an error message from the camera. I had that problem. Benchmarks will stress the processor & GPU 100%.
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LahiruRD said:
It's not the camera. It happens due to heat. So to cooldown the processor, it will down clocked automatically. For example, If you run few benchmarks & then you start the camera, after a while you will get an error message from the camera. I had that problem. Benchmarks will stress the processor & GPU 100%.
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I was imagine that but I get the error when I was outdoor making pictures. That day I didn't run any benchmarks. Is not the camera, ok, is due to heat. Just worry why my phone get heat and get error just using the camera.

Question Battery Life, expectations?

Hi all,
As you know, I got this device a couple of weeks ago as a upgrade (birthday pressie).... and on the whole, I am might impressed with it. Compared to previous phones, this is awesome....
However, one odd thing I am experiencing... is battery life? Whilst I read reports of this device and the other I was looking at, Note 10 5G. Both had 5000mah batteries, and reviews RAVED about how good battery life is in them. Some even saying it can be used as a Battery Bank to charge other peoples phone.
However in actual use of the phone, I'm afraid to use it... for merely tapping a few icons, browsing web and running/opening camera... I literally am watching the percentages drain... I thought this thing would be rock solid, and can generally browse/mess around and the battery will slowly decrease...?
Don't get me wrong, if I don't touch it and leave it in standby it will claim to last at least a couple of days... or that said, running it as SatNav and not touching the screen on a 30min drive, it didn't drain the battery at all and stayed at 100% (which did surprise me).
But to me, what appears as light use, tapping icons and surfing around see's it draining fairly quickly. I dread to think if I was playing a high end game, it will prolly be gone in 5 mins.... Good job I don't do games... lol
Cheers, Lister
Morning Lister .. ya got your paddling pool ready for tomorrow lol
Mines been quite doing the same playing with gcam ( I haven't uploaded the XML yet , reming me to do it later ).
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 90mhz , as I've read elsewhere that seems quite normal as the phone has to refresh the screen faster than it would on 60 . Signal strength can be detrimental too , a bad signal means the phone tries harder to pull it in and uses more battery in the process .
When I've finally got everything set up I'll see how long I can get on a charge , still got to copy me 3 stooges collection on to it , all 65gb of it
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I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 120mhz
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
Hi The Mero,
Oh don't, I am not a sun lover at the best of times and these last few days/week's been killing me... lol.
I am, as we speak, practicing my Snow Dance !!! ;-) LOL
Yeah, seems odd that a camera can zap that much battery. I get it has to do a couple of things, active viewfinder, take the pic and then use processing power to render the output. But after reading all the rave reviews, this battery will last you into the next pandemic and all that... It to me, just seems to drain a little too quickly for my liking. I was expecting to get some fun time, without watching the battery drain down...
I think this screen can only go to 90mhz, but that said... I even have my set to the standard 60mhz. I not really played around with it, but it seems quick enough for me at 60mhz and every bit of battery helps. Like being in a heatwave and keeping ya aircon off, whilst sitting at the traffic lights with windows open... Gotta save that fuel/battery... ;-) lol
I did look at battery drain, and Mobile Standby did seem high, which is odd as its never been an issue with my older phones in same location. I'll keep an eye on that though, cheers....
Lister
Gun Striker said:
I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
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Sorry I was thing of me old x3 NFC striker lol . Thanks for correcting me
Hi The Mero,
I just noticed this thread pop up, which is similar thing... It seems a few are getting the high Cell Standby for no reason at all... Although they appear to be on the updated version...??
"Cell Standby" battery drain on latest MIUI Global 13.0.12?
Hi, everyone. I bought a Redmi Note 11 Global a few days back and while setting it up, I was amazed at the battery life. It was at 56% when I opened it up, and throughout the entire setup process and after around 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, I...
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That said, I do have Calls over WiFi enabled, as it's the first time i've owned a phone that supports and is now available on my plan (PAYG lol). So I enabled it, just to try it out... lol
But apparently, this can be a zapper and cause the Cell Standby issue. Might try disabling it, and see if Battery Life improves....
Cheers, Lister
I'm on PAYG too , I turn off internet calling ( volte ) I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it ) . Anyways I knocked it off and calls were fine after that . So if you start getting the same issue give that a try . Plus battery issues could be down to the CPU not behaving . Russian forum had some with the CPU stuck at full throttle while others were stuck at lowest speed . All using different miui versions or custom ROMs , this is getting worse every time we read about it
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
some interesting reading .. miui updates
MIUI 13 Beta MI-V13.0.2 for Redmi Note 11 has been suspended due to a Google Play Server error
Obi_Wlan said:
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Same here, unlocked bootloader and currently on Evolution X. Though all google apps and services are debloated so basically vanilla. I get 10 hrs screen on time with about 40 hrs standby
Hi All,
The battery on this device is really really shocking.... as in shockingly bad !!!
When I read about 5000mah ( basically double anything I've had prior ) and how good the reviews for battery life were on these devices. I had high hopes, I thought Id be able to tap away, causally wasting hours watching pointless YouTube and whatnot...
However here I am, re-arranging icons.... Configuring Applications (TruePhone and it's GAZZILION options), and watching the percentages just drop off, one by one by one.... I bet if I put a chocolate egg outside in this heatwave, it will melt at a slower rate than the battery drains...
Admittedly, I do have a few Apps on it... but no more than when I look at other peoples phones and it's not like I am putting heavy/tasking apps on. No gaming apps or anything like that... And to watch it go from 100 to 70 in what I think is a short time, is somewhat depressing...
I'll have to charge the ole 5000mah phone up and carry a couple 20,000mah at this rate... lol.
I've even de-bloated some of the system Apps in background... I may treat it to another wipe/reset and test it with barely any load and see what happens...
Cheers, Lister
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I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it )
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I've had that issue on my Note 5 as well, and apparently I was not alone and it was in fact an issue that was introduced with Android 10. Turning off VoLTE did work for me, but that of course entailed a significantly worse call quality. I ended up switching to a different carrier and the problem went away. Sucks to see that the issue can still arise on current handsets.
I had a note 5 too , I can't remember if it did it or not, but I switched to a Moto g7 power and it did it on there too . I think your right about the network. I'm on 3 in the UK and never thought of the network being at fault , cheers for that
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I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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I know that they legally have to. But which user will sue them if they don't is what I'm saying.

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