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Have any of you come from the Samsung galaxy S3 what are your thoughts and opinions on the Sony TL phone? I am looking to get something different.
Well, the TL is only an American release for ATT, and it's the only one (of the Xperia T series) that hasn't had its bootloader unlocked. Root is possible though. There's tons of development for the T, but very little for the TL. I came to the Xperia TL from an Xperia X10, and once I had my hands on that first Xperia, I haven't felt the need to switch brands.I feel like from now on, I'm only going to buy Sony android devices.
Custom roms for the TL can be a little tricky. Roms for locked bootloaders work fine but you have to be careful with the baseband. A lot of these custom roms are built from European builds, so they say to flash the original stock rom (ATT) with only allowing the baseband to flash onto the device to try to keep LTE connectivity. ATT's 4G LTE network is very specific for the US and I've had signal issues with custom roms where I lose connectivity (data and voice) briefly at random times.
On a final note, very nice phone in my opinion. The stock JB firmware on the TL is plenty fast for me. I've basically just put the stock JB back on my phone, then rooted it to get rid of ATT bloatware and to allow tethering (without having to pay extra). Badass phone for only having to pay 50 bucks to ATT to get it. If you happen to get it and it has ICS on it (which had a lot of bugs on the TL), get the JB update on it ASAP.
Sorry to be so wordy, but I've spent hours on this forum figuring all this out. Just trying to save you some time...
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Well, the TL is only an American release for ATT, and it's the only one (of the Xperia T series) that hasn't had its bootloader unlocked. Root is possible though. There's tons of development for the T, but very little for the TL. I came to the Xperia TL from an Xperia X10, and once I had my hands on that first Xperia, I haven't felt the need to switch brands.I feel like from now on, I'm only going to buy Sony android devices.
Custom roms for the TL can be a little tricky. Roms for locked bootloaders work fine but you have to be careful with the baseband. A lot of these custom roms are built from European builds, so they say to flash the original stock rom (ATT) with only allowing the baseband to flash onto the device to try to keep LTE connectivity. ATT's 4G LTE network is very specific for the US and I've had signal issues with custom roms where I lose connectivity (data and voice) briefly at random times.
On a final note, very nice phone in my opinion. The stock JB firmware on the TL is plenty fast for me. I've basically just put the stock JB back on my phone, then rooted it to get rid of ATT bloatware and to allow tethering (without having to pay extra). Badass phone for only having to pay 50 bucks to ATT to get it. If you happen to get it and it has ICS on it (which had a lot of bugs on the TL), get the JB update on it ASAP.
Sorry to be so wordy, but I've spent hours on this forum figuring all this out. Just trying to save you some time...
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It's a great device and acts like the very popular Xperia T, (If you flash the European .140 firmware with flashtool excluding the baseband to keep 4GLTE
I can't say I came from the 3, but I came from an HTC Amaze and the T just blows it away.
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I purchased the sg s3 to replace my water-damaged Ion and I hated it. I have to take 3 or 4 pictures everytime to make sure I got a good one. I also didn't like the way notifications still come through the phone speaker instead of the earphones when you are using them and I didn't use any of the gimmicky features of the s3. So I bought a TL on Ebay and sold the S3. The camera on the Xperia TL is much better. I plan to stay with Sony next time I upgrade.
I ilke my Xperia T more than my previous phone (S3). Sony's launcher kills Sammy's TouchWiz... and the S3 had some pretty silly rules, like when using the volume button to turn down the ringtone, the notification volume didn't follow automatically. Also it had this annoying volume escalation in the ringtone when getting a phone call. Had to use a 3rd party app to silence it (but some custom roms had this 'feature' fixed so that was good.). I enjoy the size of the Xperia T more than the S3 also.
Things I don't like about the Xperia T that the S3 handled fine were 1) Removing the battery... I like to know I can replace the battery at any time. 2) When I plug my Sony PS3 controller into the S3, it can instantly use it as an input device... when I plug the controller into my Xperia T, it whines about how it can't power it.
I came from the Samsung Captivate, this phone is way better than that device.
The only thing I miss is dsp manager from cm10. The bass and volume were absolutely killer.
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Much happier with this than my old s3 had it for 3 days and found it to plastic. No doubting that it's a half tidy phone, just feel that the t is way better made and considering that the s3 is meant to have a better processor. This performs awesome.
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Sony's phones are design for speed despite their low CPUs unlike other brands which hogs their phones with useless tweaks, thus reducing speed.
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low CPUs?are you kidding me?american SG3 has the same dual core and remember 28nm dual core krait is on almost on par with exonos and better than tegra3 45nm
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low CPUs?are you kidding me?american SG3 has the same dual core and remember 28nm dual core krait is on almost on par with exonos and better than tegra3 45nm
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When I said low CPUs I meant for their older device. Also I meant it as lower CPUs. Sony having a lower CPUs than others.
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The PS3 power consumption problem doesn't exist if you use Sony Ericsson Livedock DK25 (even though it was for SE2011 devices) as I use an Xbox wired controller on my 3 out of my 4 android devices without a problem
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I came from a very similar model, the HTC One XL (only difference between the SGS3 is the extra 1GB of RAM). I was a little skeptical at first but I picked up the TL at walmart for 10 cents. Having not seen them anywhere else I thought it was quite the find. The camera is what sold me on it for sure.
As I got to using it, I realized what a smart move it was. All of my favorite mods for the One XL were native to this device. Bravia engine, clear audio+, xloud, etc. I had pretty much all of the Sony stuff installed on my HTC so it made the stock ROM very much usable; A slightly embellished AOSP. This is the first Android device I have EVER owned that I had no desire to flash a new ROM to get away from the stock software, which is typically clunky and slow, managing memory very poorly. Not with the TL. It takes full advantage of the identical hardware that my old phone had, proving to me that there really isn't any need for quad/octa core power-hungy beasts yet.
At first I didn't like the screen, but after playing with the settings a bit, I love it. The limited viewing angle ensures privacy, though some people do not like it. Colors are very true to life, as opposed to the One XL which is vivid and bright, but colors would look washed out. My wife had the S III and I absolutely hated the power-hungy super AMOLED. screen, everything looked so artificial. What amazes me most about the TL display is how functional it is with the backlight turned way down. Reproduces colors very well and is very readable in indoor and outdoor situations. Makes for a very battery-efficient device.
Yes the bootloader can't be unlocked, and flashing ROMS is limited compared to Samdung or HTC, but when you can theme and mod the device with a locked bootloader why bother? I have CM10 themes and cybershot camera, themed SMS and dialer, with the docomo status bar and task switcher. Debloated and greenified this has been the best stock experience I have had with any device. I'm sold on Sony I think I will stick with them.
I'd say I'd love a unlocked bootloader for the sake of a ported Ubuntu
Anyways, I came from a Motorola Defy+. Whilst the phone was "dumber", there was one single thing it made better than my current Xperia T: Audio playback. Never complained about that. On my Sony, however, it's quite problematic. As I really like to skip audio, it's a issue for me. I also dislike the audio bloatware Sony gives me. I flashed a different .FTF, no difference at all. Waiting for 4.2./4.3 (although I could flash a ROM).
However, this is not the entire story.
The Walkman music player rocks with one single dumb thing: search. I can search an album/artist/song/genre/whatever, and access everything really fast (I've got 20 GBs of music on my phone). And that's nice.
I also like the hardware and the lack of bloatware. The camera, which is good. The screen size is perfect IMO.
I like the fact that it feels mine, and only mine. That I can mod it, if I want to, and that I can.
I really am waiting for Ubuntu for this, and maybe I'll even flash MIUI some day.
I'm thinking of getting an xperia t mainly because of the camera. Should be in my hands by the end of the week. I know that it seems like a downgrade from my nexus 4 but it's not gonna stop me from trying it.
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Camera especially fv from market is really good
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i came to Xperia V from SGS3. i must say i hated the S3 because of it's size and i got frustrated when i tried to operate the phone with one hand and couldn't reach the screen and the phone often fell from my hand trying.
however, i miss the screen, the samsung roms, the plethora of choices and mods to use (not forgetting a super cool CM 10.1 build which i loved)
and one thing i just constantly mind about Xperia V is that doesn't give separate volumes for the ring and notification. as you know we use our smartphones a lot for chatting and i want to be able to have a low volume for the notifications, while not risking to miss a phone call.
apart from this, i love the V. it's water resistant and the camera is cool.
oh yes, and the last thing is the battery. i think that the V should also have stamina mode and try to make the device last throughout the day while using it extensively. when i say this, i always compare the usage time and the battery juice we get from both phones, i have a feeling that the S3 lasted me a good 2 hours longer than the V with about similar amount of usage
I came from a Galaxy Note.
The main thing for me is the camera. The Samsung cameras are rubbish - my note and my friends' S3s and even the recent S4 can't touch the Xperia for camera quality. I don't even take my point and shoot instant camera out anymore!
I guess the thing you will probably notice more than anything initially though it's the screen. LCD isn't so bright and vibrant as Samsung's LED ones, but I find them more natural and the Bravia engine is good.
My only other comment is that I was never really happy with my Samsung phone. I was constantly wanting to flash new custom or leaked firmware for a better experience. Don't really feel like that with the Sony device - it just works and doesn't have the garish TouchWiz interface either!
Im coming from a S3, and my first impression was the build of the entire phone, the quality is amazing and than S3, I'm really happy with my new phone
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I had a s3 before. Then changed to the Xperia Ion then just bought the Xperia T tonight.
So far love it. And yes alot more than the S3.
I am in a dilemma, I need a waterproof phone. I am thinking of the Z or the honami which is going to be announced on the 4th september with a potential october release date for the following reasons.
I know it is a rumour but i have heard about the honami potentially having a walkman s max music amp which would be good as I always felt the Z was a bit low in volume but I have heard that since the latest update it is gotten a bit louder which I am willing to work with.
Secondly the huge 3000mah battery
and lastly good 3g/signal
I am not fussed about the screen or processor speed or 20mp camera, so music, battery and good wi-fi/3g signal is my main priorities.
I am expecting the honami to be in the region of about £550 seeing as the Z was £520-£530 and honami does have beefed up specs, the Z is now £480 so potentially a £50-70 saving.
I have heard mixed reviews about the wi-fi reception and battery life of the Z and I would like to know owners opinions on the Z and what move you guys think I should make, should I get a Z now or wait.
Wait
I will sell my phone and buy honami when it will be out.
Edit: and i will make sure it's not UK unbranded
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Wait
I will sell my phone and buy honami when it will be out.
Edit: and i will make sure it's not UK unbranded
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Ok thanks for your reply, what is wrong with uk branded handsets?
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Ok thanks for your reply, what is wrong with uk branded handsets?
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Late updates.
I will probably do the same, too. Selling the Z to get the Honami. I'm very interested in the Walkman capabilities of that device.
Ok thanks for your replies, the replies are already making me think twice about the z
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Ok thanks for your replies, the replies are already making me think twice about the z
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Nothing wrong with Z but newer technology is what we are after
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Honami doesn't have a release date yet, the rumors are everywhere. I've heard October, January, etc. In other words, there's *always* something better right around the corner.
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Honami doesn't have a release date yet, the rumors are everywhere. I've heard October, January, etc. In other words, there's *always* something better right around the corner.
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My main thing is i am happy enough with my s4 but its not waterproof and i got caught in the rain the other day and even though my s4 was in my pocket it was raining so heavily that my phone got wet and it has been a been iffy since.
I would have gpt the xperia z already if i didnt read so much about bad battery life and wifi signal
As tbh I dont really want to pay £50-70 more ontop of the z if the wi fi signal is good and the battery is good enough
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My main thing is i am happy enough with my s4 but its not waterproof and i got caught in the rain the other day and even though my s4 was in my pocket it was raining so heavily that my phone got wet and it has been a been iffy since.
I would have gpt the xperia z already if i didnt read so much about bad battery life and wifi signal
As tbh I dont really want to pay £50-70 more ontop of the z if the wi fi signal is good and the battery is good enough
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its gud and battery life is fabulous after root and removing bloatware and greenify app....4hrs screen on time is superb...obvsly when the new phone comes it would surely have superb spec list and evn it wud be more faster...every 2 or 3 months something updated wud be on its way
its upon you what you want..xperia z is good and fabulous phone of sony..honami would surely be a beast but you know it would get costlier and costlier...i have never seen my xperia z lag when using at optimum speed...s4 pro chips is powerful n s800 would be more powerful next year qualcom wud announce more power chips as 3ghz chips are on its ways...
so finally think and make a wise decision because by november or dec the new phone rumour would start leaking abt sony next flagship
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its gud and battery life is fabulous after root and removing bloatware and greenify app....4hrs screen on time is superb...obvsly when the new phone comes it would surely have superb spec list and evn it wud be more faster...every 2 or 3 months something updated wud be on its way
its upon you what you want..xperia z is good and fabulous phone of sony..honami would surely be a beast but you know it would get costlier and costlier...i have never seen my xperia z lag when using at optimum speed...s4 pro chips is powerful n s800 would be more powerful next year qualcom wud announce more power chips as 3ghz chips are on its ways...
so finally think and make a wise decision because by november or dec the new phone rumour would start leaking abt sony next flagship
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Indeed that is another thing to think about that next year Feb or March a new sony phone (next years flagship) will be out again and like I said I don't really want to pay £530-550 over the £480 for the Z (it could even be more). I will still have my S4 for back up.
Get zr....best waterproof phone I ve ever had.
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My main thing is i am happy enough with my s4 but its not waterproof and i got caught in the rain the other day and even though my s4 was in my pocket it was raining so heavily that my phone got wet and it has been a been iffy since.
I would have gpt the xperia z already if i didnt read so much about bad battery life and wifi signal
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Don't worry about the battery life, I had an S4 and sold it to buy the Z. The battery life is about the same on both.
However, I have noticed the wifi signal isn't that strong on the Z, disconnects sometimes. But I'm still on 4.1.2, gonna update to 4.2 and see if the wifi improves.
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Don't worry about the battery life, I had an S4 and sold it to buy the Z. The battery life is about the same on both.
However, I have noticed the wifi signal isn't that strong on the Z, disconnects sometimes. But I'm still on 4.1.2, gonna update to 4.2 and see if the wifi improves.
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I decided to bite the bullet and save myself potentially £70 and bought a white xperia z this morning at p4u for £480, so far I am loving the phone. Haven't been able to test battery life yet but I am currently doing the software updates.
I guess thread title says it all...
In next few days I'm about to sell my dear Arc S, and I'm undecided between three phones:
Ion, T and V, with T being the most probable option.
Now, this might sound as a newbie question, which I'm not, but I would appreciate as many opinions as I can get.
Regarding choices, I'm in love with Ion's build quality, but on the other hand T and V are more recent phones, and therefore will probably have a bit longer life regarding updates. I love Xperia T design much more than V, but on the other side, removable battery and water resistance, heh...
This is really a tough call.
(Xperia SP was also a choice, but I will rather buy older flagship device than newer mid-ranger).
So, any word will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I'm from Arc S to TX. After i just bought my TX I feel Wow! don't need to suffer for internal memory and I still remember everytime I jump out from apps to homescreen, it takes time to load the icon and content. Mmm.. So far I'm satisfied with my TX. Nowadays 1GB of ram consider just enough for average user like me so couldn't expect that much on your Xperia T too.
you coming from arc s? so i guess you like the arc design? you want a good relation smartphonesize-displaysize? and a low prize phone (how much in sarajevo? Germany around 270euro) ?
you like flashing custom roms, you like play around? check the forum sections
maybe then go with xperia T (CM Support, PAC Support, some other Port Roms, Miui v5, some stock based Roms, many Mods)
how save is the V waterproof feature? is it necessary to have that?
thats some questions i would ask myself if i want buy a new phone. (by the way theres a guessing around the net XT can maybe get 4.3 directly, skippin 4.2.2, but not 100%sure)
by the way i not have that icon loading problem joonlin write about. it would be a decent update
a little subjective end note from myself:
you want handgasms? then take the T
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I love arc(h) design, that's the main reason I bought Arc S in the first place.
Yes, I care a lot about display size (and bezel size corelation), as I don't want a chocolade in my hands.
The price is basically the same then. It's about 520-540KM in sarajevo, which is about 270 Euros.
Of course the V's water-proof is not a killer feature to me, but removable battery is. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, I don't know.
Like I said, Xperia T is the most probable option, and I already even ordered Nillkin case for it, from eBay.
I will report in next few days what I have bought. If I decide to go with T, then white one would be my preference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtXZiVLtWc
maybe video like this help with the paranoid thoughts?
in worst case scenario you can change or let change the battery, also its possible to change backcover (there some shops in internet who sell custom backcovers)
heres a video with ion/T comparison (german, but you can see it in hands then )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_yJnAP9DEk
I'm not afraid of disassembling the phone. I disassembled probably every piece of electronics/phones I ever had.
I just thought it's a bit easier to deal with all kinds of bricking and freezings of phone, when you have a removable battery, but I guess thats's part of paranoia too.
I guess it's clear then. T it's gonna be, 99%.
And one more thing to ask. Some reviews are mentioning that flap covering microSD and microSIM is a bit messy.
Like, once you open it, you never really get to close it ideally again. I guess this is not entirely true?
Aso, based on video comparison above, Ion seems to have a bit brighter display, with better viewing angles. But ok, this is not a dealbraker to me.
I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone, with a fast and fluid ui (on gb) and a great camera. Ive used the arc for almost 2 years and i've had my T for 5 months now.
The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc. Also the 1gb ram is a big relieve since my arc would always run low on ram. The batterylife is also quite a lot better.
When i first got the T i thought it was pretty thick but thats actually kind of nice. The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile (which it wasn't, i must have dropped that phone like a million times and its still alive)
The only thing which is not an upgrade in my opinion is the camera. It's a good camera but the arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive. My friends have the htc one, xperia z and lumia 920 and this phone doesnt feel outdated compared to those phones. I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T
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I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone... The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc... The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile... The arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive... I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T...
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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Z is pretty awesome, my friend is really liking the waterproof feature. but its pretty big indeed and my friends Z just broke(probably his own fault, he was throwing his phone around while he was drunk). But ive dropped my T quite a few times and i barely have a scratch. If i had to choose again i would take T again with no doubt. Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades. Samsungs arc comparable phone(galaxy s plus) didnt get a ics upgrade, my gf has the plus and shes stuck with some crappy unstable touchwiz firmware.
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Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades.
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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For me everything works great except auto brightness. So for me it is in every way better than ics. But people are whining about batterydrains, slow phones, gaming performance. I havent had any of these problems but i do have to say that i dont use a lot of heavy apps. Mainly whatsapp, chrome, dropbox, 9gag and facebook.
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i upgraded from ARC S to XPERIA TX , and am feeling satisfied , TX has the arc design , it has bigger screen than xperia V , check this comparison from the GSM arena website
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4959&idPhone2=4958
I bought it! :victory:
About hour ago I bought my new beastie boy...
My first impressions are... WOW, just WOW!
Display is huge huge improvement over Arc S, in terms of everything. Colors are amazing, as well as sharpness. UI is beautiful too, probably the best Android skin among all big players, at least for me. Also, build quality seems amazing, and it feels rock solid in hands.
Also, JB came out of the box, version 9.1.A.0.489, and also it already popped me with mesage that new update is available, 9.1.A.1.141.
I guess I should update it, it's only 20-something MBs?
since I'am too considering to switch to one of these xperias i'm in doubt whether T is better than V. V's got a 4G support and is kind of weatherproof. it's also got newer chipset and isn't that alone enough for V to work faster that T? though usb otg is not listed among features this chipset natively supports it and I see no reason for it to be not enabled at least in a custom rom. another thing, the price of SP these days is closing down to that of V or T and it might be even better deal to go for with some 50-60 KM's (~$40) of difference between these models. I was considering even Z but decided to put it on hold until that issue with back glass "ungluing" has been resolved. I do not know how serious that is and do not want to become a victim of a pore design and lack of engineering common sense. i like all three models though, and it seems to be a tough choice what to go for.
As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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I came from the Arc and got the T, my missus just took delivery of the SP last week. I can catagorically say that the T is a most excellent upgrade to the Arc, but I like the additional items and functionality like the LED bar, slightly sleeker shape of the SP and faster processor. I'd go for the SP in hindsight but would definitely not be disappointed with the T.
Regarding pure aesthetics, I definitely don't regret buying a T and not an SP. Yes, I too like illumination bar of SP, and marginally better hardware specs (what is there to not like about that), but all in all, I think Xperia T is an amazing package, with very affordable price (maybe even underrated compared to some other OEMs devices), and generally an device with much more character to it, than Xperia SP. Like I said, design is beautiful, elegant with some nice accents, and probably the whole world is recognising it as a "Bond phone". While SP is bound to be a mid-ranger for the time being, and will never gain any significant attention probably.
And yeah, T feels rock-solid regarding build quality, something that my last phone, Arc S, was lacking badly (while still being an beautiful device).
Simply, I love my new phone, after merely two days of usage...
Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct. I considered T as well, but opted for SP simply because is a new generation hardware. And even that is to become obsolete quite soon. There are some advantages of T, i agree it's got better camera and more storage, but anyone who want anything resembling a quality photo would go for a real point and shot or even a real dslr device, and storage can be expanded. I already put in a 32gb sdhc clas 10, fast memory with sufficient storage. And design of sp might not be striking, but sure is elegant and atractive. There are those like I am who do not want their phone to look like bannana. No offence ment. It' just personal taste. The rest of the the hardware inside SP is near flagship phones of not just sony, but of sumsung and htc as well. Go and check several tests and reviews, they can't all be wrong. So enjoy your phone but be realistic. While it is a mid-ranger, SP is a device with a lot of potential and if it had 2gb of ram it would be a absolut winner. Still, it has plenty to offer to any kind of user, even the heavy ones, and because being newer generation device it will enjoy longer support, so it was a logical chice for me. While the looks is somewhat conservative it is longlasting, plus i'm not going to take it to bad with me, at least not to make love to it. I'm going to root it and make it do it's job. It is supposed so serve my needs, connectionwise speaking, and it is supposed to do that for some time and i will need that support that SP will have. So good luck andhave a good time
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And yeah, i'm not getting a hard-on watching bond movies.
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Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct.
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And your reply sounded like...? You made my post very laid back and relaxed alike, with this kind of even more biased reply.
I'm not trying to convince anybody anything. I'm simply telling why I made the choice I made. I could have easily gone with your choice if I wanted to, but I didn't wanted (not couldn't).
And yeah, I'm not "getting hard on" watching Bond movies as well, I even don't like them.
I'm just telling that Bond colored marketing campaign helped this phone being desirable and recognisable piece of hardware, a bit more than an "usual" phone, and that's it.
Take it easy friend... SP is great device as well, I might even suggest it to my friend tonight (who's migrating from iPhone soon).
Thats all subjective reasons to choose a phone, of both of you two. its some sort of personal taste. for me mr_torture taste matches also my personal taste.
I believe noone can choose a phone just from objective point of view. because we humans and not robots
And just because a phone is generaly older piece of hardware, means nothing skojevac. Just wanne say :highfive:
If i would buy a phone with your arguments, then i also would not choose the SP, i wouldnt choose any phone with 1GB Ram.:good:
love the banana
the older, the sweeter ahahahaha
Hello Everybody,
I currently have a Z Ultra and an Arc S (need to carry two phones). I have been in a dilemma for a while trying to decide between Z1 and QX100. I know it might sound ridiculous, but it is what it is. Basically, I want to replace my Arc S (which has a wonderful camera) with a Z1. I have seen some excellent shots taken by Z1. If I get the z1, the camera has to be the significantly better than any other ANDROID phone. (and I'd be sacrificing LTE, since only unlocked HSPA version is available in the US, imported unbranded LTE versions won't fully work with my carrier, AT&T). If the camera is just a bit better than the competition, I'll just get the QX100 and call it a day.
What do you guys suggest?
Besides, if anyone happened to own US versions of both XZU (c6806 or c6802) and Z1 (c6902), could you please comment on the displays? I have an XZU (c6806) and its display is easily the best one I have ever seen. Hopefully, US version of Z1 comes with similar panel - just wanted to double check.
Thanks much in advance
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Hello Everybody,
I currently have a Z Ultra and an Arc S (need to carry two phones). I have been in a dilemma for a while trying to decide between Z1 and QX100. I know it might sound ridiculous, but it is what it is. Basically, I want to replace my Arc S (which has a wonderful camera) with a Z1. I have seen some excellent shots taken by Z1. If I get the z1, the camera has to be the significantly better than any other ANDROID phone. (and I'd be sacrificing LTE, since only unlocked HSPA version is available in the US, imported unbranded LTE versions won't fully work with my carrier, AT&T). If the camera is just a bit better than the competition, I'll just get the QX100 and call it a day.
What do you guys suggest?
Besides, if anyone happened to own US versions of both XZU (c6806 or c6802) and Z1 (c6902), could you please comment on the displays? I have an XZU (c6806) and its display is easily the best one I have ever seen. Hopefully, US version of Z1 comes with similar panel - just wanted to double check.
Thanks much in advance
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Ironically I currently have all 3: Z1, Ultra and the QX100. The Z1's camera is a substantial upgrade over the ultra but not close to the QX100. The QX100 takes much better photos but there is a substantial trade-off in size and dealing with lag to connect. Really depends on your needs. I'd say the Z1 is among the best android cameras but I'm not sure it's significantly better than very best competitors.
The display on the Ultra is much better than the Z1. I'd say the Ultra is the best display I've seen in a mobile device, the Z1 is probably closer to an average quality in a modern mobile. It's not a great comparison for the Z1 if you have them side by side.
If you can find a C6906 from Canada you can get LTE on AT&T.
Thanks a lot, man! I had a slight hope that US version of Z1 might have won the 'display lottery' , since US was probably the last region to get Z1 :crying: I'm probably going to get one though - not sure yet. Viewing angle aside, does your z1 display look as good as XZU if you're looking at it directly?
Thanks!
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Thanks a lot, man! I had a slight hope that US version of Z1 might have won the 'display lottery' , since US was probably the last region to get Z1 :crying: I'm probably going to get one though - not sure yet. Viewing angle aside, does your z1 display look as good as XZU if you're looking at it directly?
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No even directly it doesn't have the contrast range of the Ultra. It's very good but the Ultra really spoils you compared to almost anything else.
Got it - thanks! Sony's evil plan of forcing two devices down my throat seems to be working perfectly this time. Anyways, thanks much for your help.
I tried today in Las Vegas at the Sony store both QX. I was interested too. Conclusion? It is a lag fest. If you are lucky you can see smoothly on your screen the image otherwise you should wait many seconds to get your image back in sync with your screen. I don't know if there are firmware updates for the QX but currently IMHO is not gonna work. I can confirm that Z1 in high lights is a beast. Even compared to the camera phone Nokia 1020. If you care about low lights, this is not your phone.
The display isn't so worse than the ultra at least mine (UK LTE). The ultra is sightly better.
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The display of Ultra is very nice, imagine HTC One in a 6" LCD and you're there, Z1 display is very nice too but not quite as good. Also there is no real comparison between QX100 and Z1. I mean you cant compare a dedicated shooter against a smartphone,
In saying that you cant use the QX100 without a smartphone and thats where things go pear shaped.
QX100 really takes magic shots that easily compare to any PAS or any other digital camera, however the interface between phone and lense sucks balls!
Hi everyone,
So I am thinking of getting an Xperia phone, I am a huge Android fan, never used a Sony phone before and currently having a Galaxy S4. I am attracted to Xperia's configuration and wanting to giving it a try. However, I am not sure which one should I pick. Here are couples of questions I am having in mind. Maybe you all can help me decide. Thanks a bunch!!!!
1. Between Z1 and Z1s, which one I am better off with? I know there aren't much differences between them but if I was to go with Z1, will I get LTE 4G network with Tmobile since it is an unlocked phone? I really like the varieties of color choices and I love the purple version.
2. Between Z1 and Z2, since Z2 is coming out soon, should I just wait for it? However, I am hearing rumors that the Z2 won't be launching in the US for a while. Any insider scoops?
Thanks for all of your advice*
Definitely Z2.!
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Definitely Z2.!
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Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
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Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
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if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
ooohhaaahh said:
if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
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The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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My personnel opinion... It depends on your requirement vs. budget.
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The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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i don't like front speakers since i keep the phone screen against leg, and i know alot of people put their phone face down. so that's mostly preference (phone speakers suck anyways and i rather use headphones) botton or side speakers are harder to have muffled in pockets, etc than front speakers.
kickstand case = front speakers
naked phone = bottom or front (since you are holding it)
and the viewing angles aren't really an issue when using a phone, if you really need such high viewing angles get a phone with an ips display (at those angles either screen looks bad trying to use it, nexus 4,5 and xperia z. no idea how people complain about it)
ram is nice, i'm fine with 2gb. slightly faster s800. doubt the ram and slight performance increase will be worth the price difference.
the only thing that'll really be different between the two is no 120fps on the z1 (for now)
i doubt you'll notice the cpu in games or everyday use, file transfers might be quicker. if you watch videos on your phone with multiple people you might get a better experience, if you are on stock based fw it hopefully won't hog all the ram for no reason (tmo z, sometimes get a launcher redraw, never did on my nex 4. phones are pretty much the same except sony fw hogs ram with nothing running so those 3gb are probably not all that great when you can skip the bloated sony base on the z1 and the z2 might be SOL for awhile and atleast the z to z1 jump was a big difference soc wise).
the z and z1 only do 30fps video recording which isn't as nice as 60 or 120fps for fast moving things (cars, rc things, etc).
pretty much the only 2 (maybe 3) things that will make a big-ish difference in using day to day depending if you actually do any of this with your phone very often are (not in order of easiest to notice)
the front facing speakers
120/60fps video
better viewing angles
oh, that higher cost too
i'd actually record things with my phone if it did 60/120fps.
currently i don't recommend those who've asked if they should get a z1s ($600 and tmobile, new z1 is 510 online and the only z1s's being bought new on ebay are selling for less than a used z1. besides that it feels cheap because plastic bezel (cheap abs glossy plastic. not a nice fiber reinforced).
z2 comes out and the z1 should hopefully go for 450 new or less (which would make the z2 even less of a good idea since it'll have a lower bang for buck than the z1 since it's just a z1+ 2.2-2.3ghz ~100mhz increase in fsb, changed the panel to adress an issue (that is probably due to the ASF which i removed since the glass can still crack, and it's easily scratched plastic) 2-3gb ram.
moved speaker can be a plus
software for the camera may move to the z1
i'm kinda ranting so i'll stop
but just like cars or other electronics newer doesn't guarantee it's better or worth it, only that it is newer and "shinier"
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Definitely Z2.!
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Wait for Xperia z2, wanted to buy Xperia z1, but when I saw Xperia z2, I told bye bye to Xperia Z1 xD
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Z or Z2.
Z1 isn't worth 150€ more than XZ.
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