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Hello guys..........
I have bought my Tp lately and today I decided to install a version of android on it.after the installation I decided to perform one of my heavy graphical game which name was Real raceing 2 but it performed very laggy. I used to play this game smoothly with a less powefull device like HTC desire HD.how can it be possible.In alpha versions of android for TP the GPU in not fully functional yet?Am I right?
Strange you mention that cuz I was playing cordy which laggs on my desire HD but ran fine in the touchpad.... I've had no lag issues on many games
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The question then is "Which version of Android?"
You should try Xron 2.9 de-odexed.
Have you tried to overclock it yet? Maybe you should try to run it at 1.8GHz. And maybe use chainfire to change come of the settings?
thanks for advises.
I installed the latest version of Xron 2.9 de-odexed and overclocked the devise with set cpu to 1.8 the FPS raised a bit but the laggs are still exist especially in opening demo.i also have a bad watching movie experience because of the low FPS during playing back.it seems the software can not take the full advantage of adreno 220 chipset.I dont have any of these issues with the stock webos.
I don't really know if Adreno 220 is slow, or CM7 doesn't release this GPU's full potential, but heavy 3D games are really quite laggy now. We could only wait and hope for ICS, better drivers and whatnot.
I don't really know if Adreno 220 is slow
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It's powerfull gpu, somewehere near tegra2,probably faster but I'm not sure.
but heavy 3D games are really quite laggy now
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try xronified version, it's working much better. Probably still not full potential but heavy games are working fine.
I'm not having any problems....I'm not using xron, I'm using inseason rom (which has been locked)...only lag issues i have are while streaming 1080p videos. Gta 3, real racing, ps4oid all run perfectly fine
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hi guys i was wondering the "lg optimus black " has a "ti omap 3630" and the lg optimus l7 has "Qualcomm MSM7227A"
people say that "ti omap 3630" is better than "Qualcomm MSM7227A" but the wiered thing when playing games like asphalt 7
the "Qualcomm MSM7227A" wins and doesnt lag like "ti omap 3630" in the optimus black why is that
Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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agree , because we have a cortex a8 + a powervrsgx530 which should well ,, its same as the iphone 4 but with a bit less powerfull gpu
msm7227a have cortex-a5
cant record and play hd video
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7227a&c=qualcomm_msm7227a
its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
theaks30 said:
its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
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well , can u be sure that the ics for our optimus black will be better than gingerbread ??
normally ics with removed unnecessary apps would be faster than our existing gb
So will we be able to run Asphalt 7 that smooth?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2xI9ofctQ
since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
theaks30 said:
since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
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i hope the official ice cream sandwich would be better imconfident that lg will because lg is not that type of "several upgrades" company if u know what i mean ,, its just a simple equation. if its done the this would be perfect
better drivers + better system = awesome performance
lg has other phones to sell that's a reason why they might not update and also, they have opted for two updates as compared to other companies who provide only one
Hello everybody,
does anybody know how is developing Mali GPU driver going on for our Note?
I think that graphics performance was a little better in ICS 4.0.4 then in upper version... or I'm wrong?
The most important experience I've is with the 3D game Let's Golf 3: playing is not smooth then with rom 4.0.4 stock...
At the moment I'm using Angry 3.2 Rom JB 4.1.2....
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farinacci_79 said:
Hello everybody,
does anybody know how is developing Mali GPU driver going on for our Note?
I think that graphics performance was a little better in ICS 4.0.4 then in upper version... or I'm wrong?
The most important experience I've is with the 3D game Let's Golf 3: playing is not smooth then with rom 4.0.4 stock...
At the moment I'm using Angry 3.2 Rom JB 4.1.2....
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One thing I've learnt through Android, performance decreases as the versions go up. Its not a maybe, its a definitely.
xudsa II USERT said:
One thing I've learnt through Android, performance decreases as the versions go up. Its not a maybe, its a definitely.
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It's disagree entirely, I think the reverse. Kernels with latest Mali drivers way outperform normal stock drivers. Ics improved on gb, and remember that jb is still in beta and Google have already admitted to issues with display performance which they're working on, so I have no doubt jb will be even better.
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Maybe the benchmark score decreases but the real performance increased for me with the upgrades. There may be some versions slower then there precursors but in general performance is growing.
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It's disagree entirely, I think the reverse. Kernels with latest Mali drivers way outperform normal stock drivers. Ics improved on gb, and remember that jb is still in beta and Google have already admitted to issues with display performance which they're working on, so I have no doubt jb will be even better.
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Hahaha (not laughing at you just at our differing experiences) - I disagree entirely with this and think OP has a point. In fact I already made a post about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2203374
Some games I don't notice much if any difference in 3D performance if any - off the top of my head examples are Dead Trigger and Riptide GP.
However for some others, for me at least, the performance difference between GB and JB firmware is huge. I'm talking about talking stuttering, uneven frame rates on JB Roms and silky smooth, consistent framerates on GB Roms. Examples are Let's Golf 3 (as already bought up), Real Racing 3 and GTA: Vice City. In fact (and I have no idea why) GTA:VC on GB plays silky smooth and at a higher resolution than JB, not sure why this is.
Concerning GTA:VC I, like many others, had issues that made it unplayable sometimes on GB based ROMS so I recently switched to Samsung Stock JB where it now plays without those issues but the performance of the game is much lower.
Its definitely true that performance other than 3D gaming is streets ahead in JB Roms when you compare it to GB of course.
One thing I haven't done is much gaming using ICS though which may explain our differing experiences.
another explanation is that the games dev havent optimized it for jb or newer drivers yet.
if thats the case its further proof of silly android hardware, os and app integration versus independant hardware layer, os on top and then aps, making apps completely hardware independant lol and overcoming the legacy crap.
I'm not sure what is this mali gpu thing but i believe it has something to do with graphic as what y'all has discussed above. I can see that my graphic performance has decreased on this JB rom(I'm using supernexus2 4.2.2) compared to ICS. When on ICS, I can play Backstab HD without any issue, but on JB rom(both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2) the graphic are too laggy and the phone itself would heated up.
Since i noticed lags in games i tried to figure out whats wrong with my phone, and finally found app named Quick System Info PRO (its free) and there is an option "live monitor" which shows cpu freq and usage per every core in on screen widget, which is staint over most content on screen including games. I've played some titles like GTA3, NFS most wanted, shadowgun etc. and every single game uses ony one core scaling usualy between 1000-1500 MHz with approx. 70-100% usage. I've tried same thing on my nexus 7 (android 4.2.2) and everything runs very fast and it uses 2-3 cores scaled around 600-1000 MHz with 20-40% usage.
There is no problem in chrome, antutu they're using more cores, this happens only in games (every title I've played have the same issue even THD titles)
so whats the matter? is it ICS fault? Do you have the same issue? is there any way to fix it or will JB updade fix it?
I'm using stock LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012 firmware, phone is rooted.
I've noticed exactly the same thing as you, I've checked with the "hidden code" to check for core speeds
really strange i wish someone to fix this bug is really disappointed quad core 1gb ram tegra 3 and lag all games
+ tegra games.... lets think possitive...
Is there any way to fix it? hope JB will solve everything
Something I saw in the one x forum which I will try when I get home is limiting the max frequency to 1ghz, as it won't use all 4 cores any higher than this because of overheat. More likely the cause is bad optimization
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Yes, what you say is somewhat true. When the core of the phone hits 40 degrees celsius, it clocks at a lower speed and that's when you see the "slow charging" even though you plug it in a wall socket.
Xenogenics said:
Yes, what you say is somewhat true. When the core of the phone hits 40 degrees celsius, it clocks at a lower speed and that's when you see the "slow charging" even though you plug it in a wall socket.
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What I read was 1500mhz: 1 core, 1100-1400: 2 to 3 cores and >1000mhz: 4 cores. I know of the temperature setting also. Tested this with NFS MW, I noticed no improvements but neither did it perform any worse which is interesting for a game that's not the smoothest
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Just like normal computers, if a piece of software is not designed to use multi threading.. then it will only use one cpu.
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Just like normal computers, if a piece of software is not designed to use multi threading.. then it will only use one cpu.
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Yep its mostly devs fault, however they should be using it anyway because they are compatible with galaxy s3? Could it be possible to hack it so it uses the s3 configuration and achieve multiple for usage, or is it impossible across different chipsets? I don't get it, I've seen that most games we complain about do not have these issues on the HTC one x
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You can modify build.prop to look like that of a galaxy s3 (edit model, manufacturer etc..), might trigger it, but that might create problems with other apps (including play store)
I think it's just bad programming since there are functions in android java that will allow you to get the number of cores, so then.. you can enable multi threading... not sure why they would use device detection or whatever.. I mean if a device got 4 cpus, it got 4 cpus! doesnt have to be a bloody s3
I think it's ICS 4.0.3 fault, like I said before everything runs smooth on Nexus 7 which have 4.2.2 and notice that one X already have 4.1.2.
Suprising fact I've found on polish wikipedia is improvements list of 4.1.2 and line that says:
"optymalizacja wydajności w grach dla procesorów NVidia Tegra 3 i kart graficznych NVidia GeForce ULP"
which means: "In-game performance optimalisation for NVidia Tegra 3 proccessors and NVidia GeForce ULP graphics cards"
Hope thats true
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I think it's ICS 4.0.3 fault, like I said before everything runs smooth on Nexus 7 which have 4.2.2 and notice that one X already have 4.1.2.
Suprising fact I've found on polish wikipedia is improvements list of 4.1.2 and line that says:
"optymalizacja wydajności w grach dla procesorów NVidia Tegra 3 i kart graficznych NVidia GeForce ULP"
which means: "In-game performance optimalisation for NVidia Tegra 3 proccessors and NVidia GeForce ULP graphics cards"
Hope thats true
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Well like you say they run fine on other hardware, HD games must have multi threading support for these and the galaxy s3, so the question is why aren't they using it for ours? Must be the software, even forcing all cores online does nothing to help.
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If it uses handset detection, and detects HOX and it ticks it as supported, then its going to work because it will activate multithreading.. but probably it doesnt detect the lg 4x as supported... because IMO, it uses the wrong detection (device based) to determine mutithreading.
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If it uses handset detection, and detects HOX and it ticks it as supported, then its going to work because it will activate multithreading.. but probably it doesnt detect the lg 4x as supported... because IMO, it uses the wrong detection (device based) to determine mutithreading.
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So editing build.prop might work?
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In fact I want to test your theory but can't find the one x build.prop
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wlodarsdz said:
Since i noticed lags in games i tried to figure out whats wrong with my phone, and finally found app named Quick System Info PRO (its free) and there is an option "live monitor" which shows cpu freq and usage per every core in on screen widget, which is staint over most content on screen including games. I've played some titles like GTA3, NFS most wanted, shadowgun etc. and every single game uses ony one core scaling usualy between 1000-1500 MHz with approx. 70-100% usage. I've tried same thing on my nexus 7 (android 4.2.2) and everything runs very fast and it uses 2-3 cores scaled around 600-1000 MHz with 20-40% usage.
There is no problem in chrome, antutu they're using more cores, this happens only in games (every title I've played have the same issue even THD titles)
so whats the matter? is it ICS fault? Do you have the same issue? is there any way to fix it or will JB updade fix it?
I'm using stock LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012 firmware, phone is rooted.
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Its not exactly our phones fault that most games using 1 core, in-fact almost all apps runs using 1 core they are not yet optimized to use multi-core,in our case its little developers fault and little ICS fault.
Also I am still confused why you people complain about lags? This device is very smooth and I play HD games on my (50 inch full HD) TV with my PS3 bluetooth controller(specially bought for gaming on 4X) and it runs just fine. I play Shadow Gun deadzone online with no lags(even with tiny lag - single frame skip means I am dead)...etc NFS MW runs fine too rarely it runs little slow in first few seconds of race but later it becomes fine.
I had issues with heat and battery drain problem to overcome this I have underclock my device to 4cores 1.2ghz (Governor - onthedemand) and even after underclocking it runs all my games fine. I have read (never tested) for gaming governor - Performance is i deal but battery drains faster.
However similar complains were there in HTC OneX as well until it gets updated to JB.
So I assume this issue should get resolved with JB update.
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Its not exactly our phones fault that most games using 1 core, in-fact almost all apps runs using 1 core they are not yet optimized to use multi-core,in our case its little developers fault and little ICS fault.
Also I am still confused why you people complain about lags? This device is very smooth and I play HD games on my (50 inch full HD) TV with my PS3 bluetooth controller(specially bought for gaming on 4X) and it runs just fine. I play Shadow Gun deadzone online with no lags(even with tiny lag - single frame skip means I am dead)...etc NFS MW runs fine too rarely it runs little slow in first few seconds of race but later it becomes fine.
I had issues with heat and battery drain problem to overcome this I have underclock my device to 4cores 1.2ghz (Governor - onthedemand) and even after underclocking it runs all my games fine. I have read (never tested) for gaming governor - Performance is i deal but battery drains faster.
However similar complains were there in HTC OneX as well until it gets updated to JB.
So I assume this issue should get resolved with JB update.
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The worst games are nova 3 and amazing spiderman, if you can figure how to make them run smooth I'll be happy, most others are playable on my phone
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Update: If gaming is your top priority I recommend downgrading to v10d until.this jb update comes, I haven't checked of all cores were used but most wanted was much smoother, also phone got very hot! Tried amazing Spiderman which was unplayable, its still quite slow but is possible to play, going to test nova 3 next
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Tried nova 3, very playable, slight frame drops but nothing bad, similar to playing mc4 online over 3g
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Odp: [Q] Only one core used in gaming, why?
Could you try to run real racing 3 with high graphic for me?
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Could you try to run real racing 3 with high graphic for me?
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Ok but could take a while, downloading on 3g
Edit: can't download, progress bar is stuck at empty, checked file size, not increasing,
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Im using zaiben rom on my lg optimus 4x hd. The performance is poor. Overall laggy and horrible gaming. I dont like using non stock based rom as they always have some bugs. I tried custom kernel like iodak werewolf but it made my phone heat up like crazy and unusable while charging. Any solution?
Buy another device stock Roms won't give you a good performance increase.
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I used stock with zaiben kernel for months, uninstalled all the useless system apps with Root Uninstaller, including hangouts, gmail, maps, youtube ... and then installed them again as normal applications and used the greenefy to hibernate most applications, never had a problem of lagg or excess heat. Now I'm testing some KK ROMs , and do the same thing using iodak kernel 9.95 and I'm liking the results.
Make a bakcup and test some KK ROMs.
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Im using zaiben rom on my lg optimus 4x hd. The performance is poor. Overall laggy and horrible gaming. I dont like using non stock based rom as they always have some bugs. I tried custom kernel like iodak werewolf but it made my phone heat up like crazy and unusable while charging. Any solution?
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Believe me, if you're using an LG phone, custom ROMs are ALWAYS better.
Stock ROM got too many bugs and I don't really like modified stock ROMs as people usually add more bloatware.
You should really give CM11 a try.Latest nightlies got very good performance with iodak 9.5 kernel.And no important bugs you should worry about.
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Believe me, if you're using an LG phone, custom ROMs are ALWAYS better.
Stock ROM got too many bugs and I don't really like modified stock ROMs as people usually add more bloatware.
You should really give CM11 a try.Latest nightlies got very good performance with iodak 9.5 kernel.And no important bugs you should worry about.
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If u use iodak or werwolf kernel wont phone heat up like crazy if u use ur phone or do some gaming especially. If u do it while phone is charging?
sarnz said:
If u use iodak or werwolf kernel wont phone heat up like crazy if u use ur phone or do some gaming especially. If u do it while phone is charging?
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If you use a custom kernel like iodak or ww, you can tweak many parameters. Among them there is cpu clock frequency and voltage.
Personally, I've set the stock 1500 mhz frequency and undervolted Mpu and cpu respectively by -30 and -75 mV. My phone runs smooth as silk and never gets horribly hot.
The guys who replied before me are right, though, stock roms or their derivates cannot be compared with CM11 in terms of performance they are way better. If I were you, I would flash one of the latest nightly and a custom kernel.
After some trials and errors you will be able to find the correct balance between over/underclocking and undervolting.
That is, if you are willing of doing some experiments. If you are looking for pre-cooked solutions I am afraid you will be deceived.
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If you use a custom kernel like iodak or ww, you can tweak many parameters. Among them there is cpu clock frequency and voltage.
Personally, I've set the stock 1500 mhz frequency and undervolted Mpu and cpu respectively by -30 and -75 mV. My phone runs smooth as silk and never gets horribly hot.
The guys who replied before me are right, though, stock roms or their derivates cannot be compared with CM11 in terms of performance they are way better. If I were you, I would flash one of the latest nightly and a custom kernel.
After some trials and errors you will be able to find the correct balance between over/underclocking and undervolting.
That is, if you are willing of doing some experiments. If you are looking for pre-cooked solutions I am afraid you will be deceived.
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Tnx...which app do you. Use for undervolting and overclocking?
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Tnx...which app do you. Use for undervolting and overclocking?
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Trickstermod is a favorite for most of the people.Check your tegra variant, if it's 1 or above, you can use -122mV for CPU with no problems, max freq set to 1.5 ghz
I'm using this for months now and I sometimes forget my phone can get hot, unless I do heavy gaming for 30 mins or more.
Also try to overclock GPU.Helps a lot with FPS issues.
If you want good battery life and decent performance, underclock to 1300 mhz and undervolt by -122mV (if your variant is 1 or above)
Btw you can check your variant via /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/tegravariant after installing iodak kernel.Higher the variant, the higher you can overclock/undervolt.
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My tegra variant is 3 o.o But when I undervolt 30mV on CPU and 75mV on MPU - as @peppethustra recommend in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761923&page=2 - it causes freezes, even when I underclock to 1,3GHz :/
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My tegra variant is 3 o.o But when I undervolt 30mV on CPU and 75mV on MPU - as @peppethustra recommend in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761923&page=2 - it causes freezes, even when I underclock to 1,3GHz :/
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All phones are different you may have to tweak the values to fit your needs. Try upping the LP CPU voltage to -10 and work your way down. For MPU try -25 and work your way down on that as well.
Mine is a variant 2 and can use -20 and -110 with the 520 GPU overclock
Edit: also for more performance try changing your minfree values. Lower values mean better multitasking and high values mean more killing of background apps but more free ram for the foreground apps. I personally use 8, 12, 45, 65, 95, 165
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