Just got the NC. Why does it only pull the mobile web pages if they are available, such as Yahoo? Is this a glitch, or is a setting wrong on the NC?
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Because it's a mobile device...?
There's a UA faker in a 3rd party browser, but I can't remember which.
it swaps for me... like it reads normally for my blog dispite everything else being mobile... but the rest is usually mobile
Do other tablets do this?
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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Shootr2 said:
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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the other tablet I was reviewing out of boredom did that.
If you are using Dolphin HD, you can set the browser to Desktop.
Shootr2 said:
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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Use the Dolphin Browser HD 2 .. Works Awesome.. You can specify the user agent (Android, Desktop, IPhone, IPad) in the settings..
They pull sites based on what the "user agent" is set to in the browser..
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clockcycle said:
They pull sites based on what the "user agent" is set to in the browser..
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A little more accurately, some sites serve different content depending on how the browser identifies itself. In some cases to account for reduced screen real-estate (mobile browser), in other cases to work around bugs in the browser's rendering implementation.
Now, that being said, for some reason the Nook Color developers decided to set the user agent as being an intel-based macintosh. I'm serious, go to like ipchicken.com and see what the UA is.
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A little more accurately, some sites serve different content depending on how the browser identifies itself. In some cases to account for reduced screen real-estate (mobile browser), in other cases to work around bugs in the browser's rendering implementation.
Now, that being said, for some reason the Nook Color developers decided to set the user agent as being an intel-based macintosh. I'm serious, go to like ipchicken.com and see what the UA is.
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I can confirm. Go to hulu.com and click the flash install link. Adobe also identifies the browser as OSX.
You don't need to root and install Dolphin, you can change the user agent in the default browser by typing about:debug into the URL bar and going to settings after that.
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Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.
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1) Yes, it is very smooth,especially at 1.1. Really,like any android device, you risk lag if you download a stupid amount of apps, but that has nothing to do with this device.
2) Yes it is easy to root; just format the SD card with the directions, and you are set. Then you can install different roms, etc.
3) yes you can tether (do it daily with my incredible).
4)Opera mobile is amazing, since it can use the graphics card on the nook to render the web pages, making it VERY smooth.
5) I have no problems with app scaling. Market works fine on all ROMS (BTW, you may want some research, since you have a number of OS choices for the nook).
6) No wifi problems here
7) Amazingly worth it.... best $250 i have spent in a LONG time..
There are so many threads with the same questions... But to answer your questions...
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
Depends on the rom, Honeycomb is incomplete and because of it; it doesn't run every program perfectly.
CM7 is pretty good at a stable build right now, has bluetooth, but some few are unlucky and find that it doesn't always play nice with their nook. Very small amount of people though.
Stock or Eclair (Android 2.1) runs fine and can be overclocked, just doesn't have bluetooth and won't run newer programs such as FPSE (Psx emulator)
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
As easy as following a couple of instructions (burning an image to an sd card and starting the nook... done)
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
Yes, so long as you have an android phone. Some phones may not work though, so let us know which one just in case.
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
Opera Mobile takes full advantage of GPU acceleration and web browsing is silky smooth. Pinch to zoom works well on even stock browser or dolphin hd.
5. Do apps scale well?
Some do not depending on the rom. But it's rare and not a problem I run into often on CM7.
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
Yes and yes.
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
Varies completely by user, most don't have problems, myself included. But, some do.
7. Overall, is it worth it?
Depends... If you like android and want something for light browsing, video watching, games, reading and word processing. Then yes. If you want anything more intensive, then wait for better hardware or get a laptop.
Overall I love my nook color though, it makes a great little tv when me and my wife want to be around eachother, but don't want to watch the same thing. It has a lot of good emulators for video games. Some of the programs are very handy, and it has some pretty addictive games that get me through the day. Size factor, 7" is perfect, and really easy to carry around and whip out when I want or need too. Screen is beautiful! And Chisleu has encoded some pretty awesome videos that demonstrate the Gpu card's best points.
Buy it. Unless you like ipod better than android, then just go buy a Ipad. =\
Did I mention it also doubles as an ebook reader *hint hint* *wink wink* =D, ezpdf reader makes reading pdf's a breeze on this, and even has a page flipping graphic to draw people in around you. Adobe Reader takes advantage of the GPU though and can easily open the most graphic intensive pdfs. =D
On cm7 all works fine.
I usemine as scull tablet
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Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.
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1. It depends on what you're doing with it. For basic video viewing and light browsing, its smooth enough on 2.1. Froyo and CM7 (no experience with HC) are smoother than their older sibling, but can't really be considered as truly "smooth" right out of the box. NONE of them are smooth at viewing large PDF files (especially when trying to pinch and zoom), so overclocking is a must if you plan on doing any of that. Honestly, overclocking is a must no matter what you want to do. It simply makes the experience so much more enjoyable. I'm running CM7 overclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I smile every time I pinch and zoom on a website or a PDF. Its that good.
2. A basic root of 2.1 is pretty easy. It will probably take some trial and error, but overall I'd say it requires a moderate level of skill.
2b. If you plan on doing anything other than basic stuff (watching videos and the occasional web surfing), I'd say go CM7 on the internal memory from the get-go. The actual install takes maybe 10 minutes and you're going to get the best functionality and performance without the hassle. CM7 stable lives up to its name.
3. The stock ROM requires an Android phone to tether, but I broadcast from my iPhone 4 with zero issues on Froyo and CM7.
4. See my above gushing about pinching and zooming after overclocking. I use Dolphin HD for my browsing, but Opera Mobile is a nice browser, too.
5. I honestly don't know what this means. If you're asking about how they look on a bigger screen, I have no complaints.
5b. Yes. I've had zero problems with the market on CM7. They even update automatically.
6. WiFi will give you problems sometimes, but refreshing the connection (I have a widget for that) or a quick reboot almost always remedies the problem.
7. Duh. Including the cost of my 32GB SD card, I paid $290 total for mine. It was a little frustrating with the initial struggle of setting it up (WinImage was my problem), but its all good in the hood now, LOL.
So I have to put the image on the SDcard or can I install it somehow to the internal memory?
And for use, it's going to be mostly browsing, app use, moderate use overall, minor video watching, etc.
Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
EDIT: A partition program will probably come in handy at some point. I use this: http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html?tag=mncol;1
Its free and it works.
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So I have to put the image on the SDcard or can I install it somehow to the internal memory?
And for use, it's going to be mostly browsing, app use, moderate use overall, minor video watching, etc.
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Yes the "Auto-Nooter" program unlocks the stock Android software. There are also bootable sd card images with CM7 and honeycomb, should you not want to erase the stock software or mess with it at all.
You don't have to nooter the stock nook though if you just want CM7, with 2 sd cards you can load one up with CWM (Clockword Recovery) and then have the other one containing the CM7 stable or nightly release; along with overclock update.
Which is what I did on my second nook.
No real point in staying on stock android unless you like the Barnes and Nobles features.
I have no plan to stay stock if I end up following through, I'll jump into CM7, anything else I need to know or any other input?
If it doesn't work out of box, return it... It's just not worth it, a lot of nooks right now are in store and defective. Some are little tiny bugs that are okay, others are massive. I decided to try to live with a bug in my old one, and it ended up costing me a huge hassle with india to get them to give me another one.
Normally I really don't mind overseas technical support, but I had a woman run me through troubleshooting and my nook turned off mid "fixing" it and she deemed it fixed and tried to hang up. I then told her it wasn't and she said... oh... let me put you on hold... and then she hung up.
Another thing, some nooks got OEM chargers, and because of it, they don't work well with the nook. If you put your nook on to charge and find the touch screen acting erratic or not letting you type, return it immediately or demand another wire.
Make sure you get a couple of MicroSD cards, as it's always good to have a CWM bootable laying around, I actually hide it in my phone in case I break something on cm7 while i'm out. I can then easily reflash it and get back to it.
If you've never used android before, get titanium backup (the full version) that way you can easily backup your programs.
Bluetooth works, but not from a far distance. So if you're going for it gaming wise, get a wiimote and a classic controller (with wire) so you can give yourself some distance.
The last thing... CM7 is always in development and because of it, it's very easy to spend your whole day flashing new and newer stuff.
As of right now, CM7 uses the kernel .29 which has some issues with deep sleeping and because of it, when your nook is in standby it's usually going to lose about a percentage or two an hour. Stock gets it down to like .2-.5 an hour, but keep in mind these are resting numbers, not actual use numbers.
At this point Dalingrin (who hence forth will be called the Kernel Master) is testing and continually fixing video on CM7. With MoboPlayer (Software decoding mode) I am currently capable of watching a 720p mkv with subtitles.
And others such as Razir, Medline and Chilseu have been making videos to play and push with hardware accelerated videos.
That's it I think.
I'm well aware how to use Android and rooting and flashing ROMs is nothing new to me anymore.
So before I do anything, I should turn it on normally stock and try to charge it just to make sure nothing is funky with it?
As for kernel, I plan to use Dalingrin's so I can OC.
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So before I do anything, I should turn it on normally stock and try to charge it just to make sure nothing is funky with it?
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Yep. And go ahead and create a sign in in case you need to get a RMA one day.
Once you know everything is good, then switch to CM7.
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Yep. And go ahead and create a sign in in case you need to get a RMA one day.
Once you know everything is good, then switch to CM7.
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Noted. Thanks.
Still looking for any input.
Then I will answer one question more completely.
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5. Do apps scale well?
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Better than you would imagine. Since Android phones cover an array of resolutions, most programs scale amazing well on the Nook's screen. There are a few that don't work well- a few games that depend on a static image background, or busy programs like ESPN's Scoreboard that are filled in every inch on a phone so the blank spots on the Nook are obvious.
But most games, and other apps scale well.
The best thing you can do is go after tablet specific stuff. For example, Opera mobile is a tablet specific browser. Sign up for the free Swiftkey beta for a tablet keyboard:
http://www.androidcentral.com/swiftkey-tablet-beta-now-available-vip-forum-members
Use all these cool tablet apps ripped off a Notion Ink:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934916&highlight=ink
I never want for official tablet apps Honeycomb has, which is good because most are designed to just run on Tegra machines.
If you want videos, Handbrake is the way. Here is a good preset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12774132&postcount=4
One other thing I will say- think about a screen protector. I think the anti-reflective ones are downright excellent, and they seem to increase touchscreen responsiveness.
I must say, after watching many youtube videos, how capable this tablet is, it's impressive.
I have NC 3 weeks now..
To see if everathing is ok, I personally made a SD card with CM7 stable+Dalingrin OC (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957) and boot it from there.
It was my first time rooting anything and all went smoothly first time.
I'm satisfied with this config (quadrant 2000+) and have stock B&N internally, browsing works fine, video&tethering I don't do. Didn't have a problem scaling apps or any wi-fi problem.
I only wish, sleep mode would be improved, as i don't use NC everyday and after 3 days of non-use it drains out.
Other than that - perfect buy to do easy browsing, news&book reading, mail checking, game playing..
Hope this piece of info helps you.
I think I'll look into installing it to memory as I have no use for the stock anything.
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"@I Am Marino"
One use you didn't mention much was as an eBook reader - I am surprised how much
I am enjoying the NC as my first eBook reader. ePub fromat works well, PDF so-so.
I use FBreader for ePub and Repligo mainly for PDF.
On PC/MAC/Linux end, Calibre an open source eBook library management tool is great.
http://calibre-ebook.com/
Nook is a fun device, because it boots 'first' from a bootable uSD card, you don't have
to worry about bricking device, so less worry about trying new versions of Android
on it too.
Good luck,
Peter
I don't think I'll have any use for it as an e reader as the only reading I do is non books.
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I definitely recommend this device, it is serving me well.
I'm running CM7.0.2 from SD and everything is running great. All my apps are working well, etc, the only app that really sucks for me, ironically is the nook app.
The library is just ungodly slow (I have about 200 nook books). It's constantly syncing and pausing and just generally acting confused. When I open a book the reader functions great but the library is so bad it's almost unusable, I'm pretty sure it's the retarded thumbnail view/scrolling. Anyone have any tweaks/advice?
I archived a bunch of books to bring the number of titles down to 100 or so but it's still just stupid slow and klunky interface-wise.
Same here - exactly the same setup ( stock 1.2 and dual-boot with CM7.0.2, 925Hz kernel on uSD ) and NOOK reader is useless with 100+ books....
Aldiko would be a worthy contender if v2 didn't completely bork the layout (missing bold/italics/centering, etc.).
Rodney
rhester72 said:
Aldiko would be a worthy contender if v2 didn't completely bork the layout (missing bold/italics/centering, etc.).
Rodney
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Yeah, I'm currently splitting time between Aldiko and the nook app, but almost all my ebooks are from B&N so I'd just as soon not bother with firing up one app to download them (nook) and then a second app to import them all the time and as you noted, Aldiko screws up some of the nook books in terms of format.
At least it's not just me. the native 1.2 ROM works well with the library, but 95% of the time I'm in CM7 for the apps and such, so rebooting to read is even clunkier. I mostly just reboot 1.2 for kids books when my kids want to read on the nook.
Hopefully B&N will continue to improve performance on the app. Since it seems tied to it constantly hitting the Wifi and/or thumbnail scrolling, I'm not even sure if using an OC kernel will help. I'm on the standard CM7 kernel with the max clock speed right now. but haven't OC'd due to battery life and laziness on my part.
Ungodly slooooooooooow... opening a book takes something on the order of two minutes. Works great thereafter, but really, it's unacceptably slow.
I agree that the latest version of the nook app is unbearably slow. I actually deleted it and installed an older version of the app (ver 2.5) and it seems faster. You do lose the ability to read newspapers and magazine, but I think it is at least usable for books...
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I agree that the latest version of the nook app is unbearably slow. I actually deleted it and installed an older version of the app (ver 2.5) and it seems faster. You do lose the ability to read newspapers and magazine, but I think it is at least usable for books...
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Yeah, but I need my Economist subscription. Actually, the irony is that my magazines open Waaaay quicker than books.
Wonderful, an enforced library size limit
CastellFaber said:
Wonderful, an enforced library size limit
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Yeah, pretty ironic, since I assume they want us to buy as much stuff as possible.
have they fixed the sync issue that's been around since it's release?
I bought a new NC.Both the 1.2 stock rom and cm7.1 are very lugy.Zooming and scrolling in the browser,the aniamtion when opening or closing an application and the menu and etc. are very luggy. I also tried OC to 925mhz but no luck.
Videos that compares nook color and Galaxy Tab shows very smooth operation when comes with the same situation I mentioned above.So Why?
So is "lugy" like trying to do the dougie?
iamjesse said:
I bought a new NC.Both the 1.2 stock rom and cm7.1 are very lugy.Zooming and scrolling in the browser,the aniamtion when opening or closing an application and the menu and etc. are very luggy. I also tried OC to 925mhz but no luck.
Videos that compares nook color and Galaxy Tab shows very smooth operation when comes with the same situation I mentioned above.So Why?
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925 speed is not over clocking, it is really stock speed. Is your nc rooted and does it have dal ringers OC kernel? also comparing the speed to a galaxy is not a fair comparison since they are totally different gpus if you are speaking of the 10.1. Root it, install cm on it, then put the right kernel on it, OC then...adjust videos with handbrake and run the videos then...you will be in for a elegant surprise.
CM7 on .32 isn't even laggy at 800mhz on the stock kernel. It's smoother overclocked but it's not a big deal unless you play games where you really need that extra 1-2 fps
I suspect he has something else going on.
I have upgrade to a nightlies version and find a lot smoother now although zooming and scroling in web browser is not so googd as I expected.
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I have upgrade to a nightlies version and find a lot smoother now although zooming and scroling in web browser is not so googd as I expected.
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Web pages with javascript and lots of ad links really slow the browser down. A good example is the XDA forums which is slowish on my i7 Windows 7 system with 8 GB of memory.
Opera mobile is really smooth compared to the stock browser and Dolphin. The draw back is there aren't many options in the settings.
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Opera mobile is really smooth compared to the stock browser and Dolphin. The draw back is there aren't many options in the settings.
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features over performance always, right?
There's no GPU acceleration in the stock browser so I would use Opera Mobile instead.
I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
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I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10. Would spontaneously freeze or reboot every couple days. I will try FF on the Nook and see what happens. Thanks.
I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10
I use FF on my Toshiba with Windows 10 with no issues. It's my goto browser there too for the same reasons.
I use Opera on any android device, simply because it is the only one I know of that still supports dynamic text reflow, allowing one to zoom in and not have to scroll left and right. It irks me that other browsers do not support this.