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What to do after root?

I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead? Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right? Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.

rambell said:
I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead?
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Freezing first is always the recommended action (to simply see what happens), however uninstalling these two has been properly tested by "the community", and there are no negative consequences. Just do it.
As for TB Pro, it is the only must-have application for rooted users in my view, just buy it, it's an awesome tool.
Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right?
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Yes, but you won't get any more useful space by removing them. They're in the /system partition, which during normal use will never get written to. (Only you, the rooted user, can do that.) Even updates get installed to the /data-partition. The only real difference between freezing and uninstalling is what happens after a wipe (factory reset.) If you have frozen an app, it'll be active after a reset. Uninstall apps you are sure you'll never need, freeze everything else you don't want.
For example, any sane user will install an alternate launcher, like Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, ADW etc. These are so much better than the stock launcher you'll be convinced you'll never use LG Home again, and it'll be tempting to uninstall it. Mistake. The alternate launcher will get installed to /data/app, so if you ever need to reset your phone, it'll get deleted. When the phone boots next, it won't have ANY launcher installed, and you won't be able to do anything.
Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
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Impossible to say without knowing what they do. Freeze them and see what happens during a week or two of normal use.
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.
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They're all pretty good. With the latest batches of ROMs you basically have to choose between a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini. There's a broken headlight or a scratch in the paint here and there, but you really can't go wrong. It's all a matter of personal need and taste- try them out and decide which works best for you.

Thanks for the detailed explanation esp on the pros and cons of freezing vs uninstalling. I am gonna try out launcherpro and see how it goes before venturing into the unknown world of roms.

from a greek post I made once translated with google because of boredome
The Root is the android that is the administrator for windows
Reasons for doing root:
Market enabler: see all applications on the market
Titanium Backup: You make backup all applications
startup manager: regulates what runs on the principle on your mobile
adfree: stop the advertisements
droidwall: close the internet on which application you want.
fasterfix: the gps you have set for GREECE consistently fast locking.
pimpmycpu: you over or underclock your mobile for extra performance or economy of battery
systemapp remover: place systems that take away but you are achristes or annoying.
widgetlocker: changing the lockscreen unrestricted
touchkeylights: lowers the Volt led for saving battery power or simply because it bothers light.
gscript: Giving orders linux with a click you want to do things like restart the application see longer eats a lot of space, the possibilities are endless
es file exporer: you can change the system files (dangerous not to try unless you know what you have) to put other icons or other boot animation, or a different shape battery tray bar displays etc.
These are some of the little you can do.

RAM is mostly over 600 MB even when i am not using

Hi People
My GNote has 1GB of RAM and when i am not using it it still shows only 300 to 200 MB of RAM left, i am using ES task Manager, i have checked the running applications but nothing seems to eat all that RAM..
I do have games installed but i make sure to close them after finish playing them.
Secondly when i uninstall a Game, what happens to the data it downloaded to internet and if that data is not deleted by uninstalling how to delete it?
Thanks for you help

ram
humadoon said:
Hi People
My GNote has 1GB of RAM and when i am not using it it still shows only 300 to 200 MB of RAM left, i am using ES task Manager, i have checked the running applications but nothing seems to eat all that RAM..
I do have games installed but i make sure to close them after finish playing them.
Secondly when i uninstall a Game, what happens to the data it downloaded to internet and if that data is not deleted by uninstalling how to delete it?
Thanks for you help
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Wouldnt worry bout the ram, 300 is prob an average of what people have left after filling up with apps, also you should remember, lots of the stock apps are running and restarting most of the time which eats ram
I use Task killer pro, good way to set it on autokill and let it kill those unwanted apps that are running.
Another way is download a startup manager and audit what you want to run and not to run when your phone boots, you will need to be rooted to do that.
The phone has a built in task manager, long pressing the home button or look in ur apps, there is a task killer of sorts built in to free up mem, or u could root and install cassies extralight rom, that way you have a basic system with all the crap taken out.
When you uninstall an app, always be sure to click the cache clear and stop button before uninstalling but generally when it uninstalls it only leaves fragments behind, nothing major.
You still have 2 to 300 meg of ram, its nothing to worry about, most phones dont even have that left after installing apps so try not to worry, just be sure to clear ya memory every now and then.

Thanks i am little worried to root the device yet as i only had it for a month.
I installed games such as internal legacy and back stab but after uninstalling them still my phone had the data in the gameloft folder which i had to manually delete...
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humadoon said:
Thanks i am little worried to root the device yet as i only had it for a month.
I installed games such as internal legacy and back stab but after uninstalling them still my phone had the data in the gameloft folder which i had to manually delete...
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Dont worry bout rooting, just use the initial root flasher and the matching cfroot kernel found here in the same link, it gives full easy instruction and includes an root uninstaller in case you need to take it off, dont even need to use the cfroot if ya dont want too.
Rootings not that big a deal, easy to dispose of in case of return and the guides here on XDA are the best ones ya could use, its all solid stable advice.

graemeg said:
Dont worry bout rooting, just use the initial root flasher and the matching cfroot kernel found here in the same link, it gives full easy instruction and includes an root uninstaller in case you need to take it off, dont even need to use the cfroot if ya dont want too.
Rootings not that big a deal, easy to dispose of in case of return and the guides here on XDA are the best ones ya could use, its all solid stable advice.
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thanks mate you have been a great help ..bless you

just hit clear memory under ram in task manager to free from time to time.

Its pointless clearing your ram, your phone will run smoother if most of your most used apps are ready for loading in ram. If you clear you ram all the time, when you load Apps they have to load from storage instead which takes longer and takes more CPU usage.

Alexanderbooth said:
Its pointless clearing your ram, your phone will run smoother if most of your most used apps are ready for loading in ram. If you clear you ram all the time, when you load Apps they have to load from storage instead which takes longer and takes more CPU usage.
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good point, though some apps like the ones from stock doesn't let you uninstall them (eg. Social Hub, Samsung Apps)

Having a rooted device, you can use
Nitrality (free) or
Titanium Backup
to remove unwanted system applications.
You have to learn how to do a Nandroid backup first before you start uninstalling system apps. But.. if you really just stick to rooting and uninstalling KiesCrap etc. you'd still be fine.

once you install root then u can use titanium backup to remove all the unwanted apps

How to stop "running" and "cashed processes"?

I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?

if you rooted, you can use Autostarts or ROM toolbox from the playstore. it can change the receivers of the apps not to start at boot

CooLasFcuK said:
I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
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The simple answer is that you don't need to stop them!
As you say, Android is already very good at keeping track of background processes, to the extent that if a new program needs more RAM, Android itself will kill a background process that hasn't been used for a while to free up RAM for the new program.
The Cached processes screen SHOULD be full of recently used programs; it shows that Android is doing what it is supposed to do and is shifting inactive processes out of active RAM in case you want to load it again, without completely dumping the process memory.
Now, as for the side effect you mentioned, that would be a significant hit on battery life. By holding programs in RAM as it is supposed to do, the OS can load the program quickly and cleanly and more efficiently by simply reading the RAM rather than reading flash, writing to RAM, then reading from RAM. The general mantra for UNIX based systems is that unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Another thing to note is that if you do not close tabs when switching active programs (including going to homescreen) then the Browser is designed to hold that tab in memory. Even if you close the Browser (excluding closing the tab specifically with the "little x"). Even if you reboot the damn phone, it will still load the tabs/pages you had open last. The pages are not held in memory as such, just what was open and what tab order, so if you do open the browser after a while, it will load the last page from scratch.
TL;DR version: The running and the cached processes will remain exactly where they are until a new program needs more RAM than is available, at which point Android will kill something to make room. You do not need to do this manually. It will cause more power drain by making very inefficient use of RAM/Flash memory. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.

whilst Chaos is right, I notice severe performance drops when ram is filled, despite Androids theoretical advantage. It doesnt work...
Best to prevent from loading altogheter.
Root, lose warranty, backup apps, uninstall or freeze apps so the bloatware is removed.
For others, change autostart settings in Romtoolbox. So they wont start on boot.
Search for safe stuff to delete. There are lists for that
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Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
Via GtN7000

LoVeRice said:
Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
Via GtN7000
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Lol, even then you might still need to remove bloatware lol
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Thanks so much for detailed answers.

[Request] Process manager/Task manager

I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.

There is no more need to use task killer to manage android systems any more. You will be doing more harm than good, in fact there is no good in killing tssks manually.
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Point noted.
But when I use Airdroid task manager, I see a process when the corresponding app is not running the background.
To mention a few; Cut the rope free, stocks & Hill climb racing.
Few system process like picasa uploader, chrome etc.
As you said andoird may optimize most of them, but I would like some control when running thin on battery.

mohan_168 said:
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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use greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en to hibernate any persisting apps/processes (except system). apps relaunch when you open them.

Killing apps and then having to reload them actually uses more battery than them being dormant in the background and already loaded when called upon. The problem is when you have misbehaving apps that stay in the foreground eating up cpu, instead of going dormant into the background. And this does happen. I use an app called Watchdog that alerts me when this happens. It allows you to kill the app when this happens. It also allows you to whitelist and blacklist apps and processes.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.

simms22 said:
main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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mohan_168 said:
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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fernandezhjr said:
We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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fast reboot(free), but the paid version i like better https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en

rayiskon, I will try greenify & let you know how that helps.
fernandezhjr, I agree restarting app is not an optimal way, but I require to squeeze battery to atleast make phone calls when I am away from charging options.
simms22, fast reboot looks promising. I'll try the free one for now and take it from there.

It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.

Johmama said:
It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand killing process, shutting down cached process or apps & later restarting them is only going to fire up the CPU usage which completely defeats the purpose of conserving battery.
Though not a daily ask, at times I am stuck in situation where a phone call or SMS is all I need to keep me going.

New to Android. Just looking for some pointers.

Hey all. Long time Blackberry user here. I have a couple questions about my note 5 I just picked up.
- Can I root the device (I'm on verizon)? I've done a bunch of googling and so far it seems like verizon has done a good job at making it impossible?
- The main reason I want to root is to just to rid my phone of all the JUNK apps I don't want. If rooting my phone isn't possible, what's the best way to prevent the apps from taking up space and using up data? With no sdcard slot, space will be a premium, and I'd like to free up as much as possible.
-RYknow

-RYknow said:
Hey all. Long time Blackberry user here. I have a couple questions about my note 5 I just picked up.
- Can I root the device (I'm on verizon)? I've done a bunch of googling and so far it seems like verizon has done a good job at making it impossible?
- The main reason I want to root is to just to rid my phone of all the JUNK apps I don't want. If rooting my phone isn't possible, what's the best way to prevent the apps from taking up space and using up data? With no sdcard slot, space will be a premium, and I'd like to free up as much as possible.
-RYknow
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Right now without root access on our Verizon Galaxy Note 5s there's no way to get rid of the apps to free up space. However there is a way to disable the apps by using Package Disabler but you have to make sure that you don't disable anything if you don't know what it does because you can end up causing the phone not to work or not boot in which case you'll have to do a restore and lose everything. I actually made the mistake and disabled some things that I shouldn't have and it caused the phone to get stuck at the Verizon logo so just be careful what you do with it! Also if you disable certain things that the system needs it can actually become detrimental to the battery life and make it run out faster. Personally I'd say to just leave it alone unless it's actually doing something because on mine I noticed that if I don't use them or tap into them they won't run anyway.

-RYknow said:
Hey all. Long time Blackberry user here. I have a couple questions about my note 5 I just picked up.
- Can I root the device (I'm on verizon)? I've done a bunch of googling and so far it seems like verizon has done a good job at making it impossible?
- The main reason I want to root is to just to rid my phone of all the JUNK apps I don't want. If rooting my phone isn't possible, what's the best way to prevent the apps from taking up space and using up data? With no sdcard slot, space will be a premium, and I'd like to free up as much as possible.
-RYknow
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hi,
Here's a few pointers, what i do (managing free space)
Firstly, i am also on a branded version. No root, stock Rom.
I found that i could uninstall most of my carriers bloatware,
( see... Device /Settings /App Manager)
Other system bloat apps, i just disabled in App Manager.
Check system apps like...
Eg S Voice.. Briefing.. S HEALTH ?, (if you can disable.)
Secondly your stock Smart Manager, /App Powersaving, the apps i hardly use, i set to always... optimizing.
I used to store movies on my ext Sd card, (but as
we have no Ext Sd card) , i keep my movies on
a mini OTG SanDisk. If i want to watch,i plug /attach, OTG and watch.( Saves a lot of space)
Eventually, you just "adapt" to the limited space.
Good luck
Post note,
Root, is not always the answer.!
Sometimes you just create, more problems /issues
for yourself.
All my other devices Note 2/3/4 is rooted.
My Note5 is not rooted and i am overall very happy with device.
I only have 2 x small system bugs, nothing to stress about /root (Found a roundabout way to fix these.)
Otherwise.......
(Battery life is good , Device runs very smooth, optimized good)

willcor said:
hi,
Here's a few pointers, what i do (managing free space)
Firstly, i am also on a branded version. No root, stock Rom.
I found that i could uninstall most of my carriers bloatware,
( see... Device /Settings /App Manager)
Other system bloat apps, i just disabled in App Manager.
Check system apps like...
Eg S Voice.. Briefing.. S HEALTH ?, (if you can disable.)
Secondly your stock Smart Manager, /App Powersaving, the apps i hardly use, i set to always... optimizing.
I used to store movies on my ext Sd card, (but as
we have no Ext Sd card) , i keep my movies on
a mini OTG SanDisk. If i want to watch,i plug /attach, OTG and watch.( Saves a lot of space)
Eventually, you just "adapt" to the limited space.
Good luck
Post note,
Root, is not always the answer.!
Sometimes you just create, more problems /issues
for yourself.
All my other devices Note 2/3/4 is rooted.
My Note5 is not rooted and i am overall very happy with device.
I only have 2 x small system bugs, nothing to stress about /root (Found a roundabout way to fix these.)
Otherwise.......
(Battery life is good , Device runs very smooth, optimized good)
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Thanks for the response. I've gone through and just disabled all the verizon apps that I could, as well as a few of the samsung apps I feel pretty confident I won't be using. Seems like rooting is more of a headache then I really want to get into right now with a new device, and a brand new platform (I've literally been using an android for 2 days now).
Thanks again!
-RYknow

-RYknow said:
Thanks for the response. I've gone through and just disabled all the verizon apps that I could, as well as a few of the samsung apps I feel pretty confident I won't be using. Seems like rooting is more of a headache then I really want to get into right now with a new device, and a brand new platform (I've literally been using an android for 2 days now).
Thanks again!
-RYknow
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yeah , dont root it. It voids your warranty, and also few features will not work. Like private mode, Samsung Pay etc