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A few questions...

Hello all,
I'm planning to get a new Samsung Focus S off eBay within the next few months. They're selling as low as $350 shipping included so I figured I'd take advantage of the deal.
I currently have an LG Quantum (two of them, actually), which are loaded with apps and interop-unlocked. I can typically get 10-12 hours on a single charge, with moderate messaging and internet usage, email push @ 1 hour, etc.
I'm honestly not satisfied with that and hope this device has either similar or better battery life. What do you guys find your devices get? I'll be purchasing an extra battery with the Focus S by default, as I prefer to always be connected.
Also, is it possible to interop-unlock the Focus S, or is there custom ROMs available for it? Those two things are absolute musts.
And to anyone with a carrier unlocked Focus S, does MMS/picture messaging work?
Thanks.

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I just got my S and trust me man, your gonna love it, battery gets me through my school day and sports afterwards returning home with about... 30% battery left? WiFi always on same with "4g". You can interop unlock it FREE by going to windowsbreak http://windowsphonehacker.com/windowbreak/ BUT so far no custom roms and I haven't gotten any info on development for 1. If you hear something keep me posted. I was also wondering about it SIM unlocked and if MMS and the likes work because I haven't even put mine on AT&T yet/ at all.

If you want a Focus S, now is the time to look for one. The market is a bit flooded after the "Smoked by Windows Phone" challenge down here, and Ebay US prices are now sub $300. In some cases, well below $300. Something to consider.

sarlo100 said:
If you want a Focus S, now is the time to look for one. The market is a bit flooded after the "Smoked by Windows Phone" challenge down here, and Ebay US prices are now sub $300. In some cases, well below $300. Something to consider.
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Yup I stood in line for 5.5 hours in the pouring rain for mine Got a Titan for my dad too, since they had to take the challenge for me (not old enough)

jeffreygtab said:
I just got my S and trust me man, your gonna love it, battery gets me through my school day and sports afterwards returning home with about... 30% battery left? WiFi always on same with "4g".
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how many hours are we talking here? I usually go from 7 am to 4 pm on my quantum before its dead, usage dependant.
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At least we know you can copy/paste
I found a great deal here on the xda marketplace for a lightly used Focus S, just in the final dealings right now. I'm still a slight bit concerned about battery life.
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Maybe a little late to the party, but Id buy the phone.
I just picked up 2 of them for $200 each.
One off a friend and the other off craigslist.
These phones are a beauty.

Thanks! I got one for $180.. In the mail now.
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64GUNSHIP said:
Thanks! I got one for $180.. In the mail now.
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Dude that's a steal! Yeah sorry I didn't comment on battery life, yeah that's from 6:30 AM to about 6:00 PM with moderate use, browser, texting, stream/playing music and light gaming. 12 hours with about a quarter fo third battery left. Good LUCK!

Its used, but appears to be in mint condition. I'm hoping to get it within a week. Thanks for the info - maybe I won't need a second battery for it, like I so depressingly do for my LG Quantum
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Review from a former LL3 (Received Yesterday)

So I got my phone yesterday evening at 7pm from the UPS driver and of course it was the latest I had ever received a package!
Anyways, all I have to say is that getting a phone from the "second wave" seems to have been a great thing because I have had ZERO issues at all so far. Right away I looked over the entire phone for any cosmetic defects that have been reported and nothing was found wrong. The screen IMO is amazing and colors look perfect as well. There is NO yellow tint whatsoever and I even had my GF look at it to make sure. Battery is already better than my former Blaze 4G and that's saying something. This phone is definitely a fresh start from the touchwiz ui and made me realize that was really kiddish looking like IOS IMO. The camera takes pictures just fine although I am still trying to figure out all the features on it. The phone got pretty warm on initial start up when all of my apps were being installed from the Play store but after that, normal browsing and such did not make it any warmer than anything i have felt before in other phones. Finally, there is NO buzzing in my earpiece at all, and yes my hearing is good, this again I had my GF check too so I knew I was not crazy.
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks

That's great to hear. I also ordered a N4 from the second batch and I can't wait for it to be here. Nice review

Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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myorks1127 said:
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
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Grats on getting your phone; you're gonna love it.
I got mine a week after the initial ordering and my phone is perfect, so I don't know about any second waves or anything like that. There are always going to be phones with manufacturing-related defects; that's why they do exchanges. Don't get hung up on a few people who think their phones are s**t.

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Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw

I have my nexus 4 from the first wave ( received it on the 19th) and never got any issues with it.
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Yep, loving mine.
Coming from a s2 and then a s3 I had for 2 weeks.. The things I thought would bother me really don't.
I rooted to restor backups and I love vanilla Android, probably won't even do any rom'ing

I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.

sroach23 said:
I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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Second wave myself. No issues. I love this phone. Just thinking of how to customize the first page. I can't make it look too much like my old phone.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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lol

I got my 2 Nexus 4's yesterday. The one seems fine, but I have an issue with the 2nd one. During calls, the earpiece buzzes while making sounds. The earpiece does not make any sounds when it is off like a lot of people seem to report. This is strictly a problem during calls and it sounds like the speaker is blown. It does rattle a bit when I'm putting it on a table or whatnot, but that doesn't really bother me.
Called support yesterday, and they were supposed to send me an e-mail with instructions on sending this one back and getting a replacement, but haven't actually received anything from them.
I seem to have some kind of knack for getting bad phones from Google. I had ordered 2 Galaxy Nexus phones when they came out, and ended up getting a replacement for one of the phones because there was dust in the camera. The replacement had the wifi go out, so I had to get that one replaced. The third one actually had a similar buzzing issue with the earpiece but it wasn't as bad, and I was tired of dealing with them at that point, so I lived with it.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Why reply if you don't care? Not sure of what your point is..
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blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Just speaking a link?
sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my shiny new Nexus 4!

He's correcting the man's grammar.
Watch the video.

blaine.hale said:
Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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I get what you are saying, but he is still literally correct.
I'm sure he could care less, otherwise he wouldn't have an N4. If he cared less:
- he could have not bought the phone
- he could leave it at a bus stop and go on living
- etc. etc.
Now, I'm sure he could care a hell of a lot MORE about it, taking to the internet in fits of rage, driving to Mountain View and knocking on the front door and such. But still, he could also care less.
Just saying.

Received mine yesterday and it has zero flaw. I don't take the mini rattle as one as it comes from the camera (autofocus?) and all the phones I tested since learning that on this forum have it.
For those of you wondering if the bumper is worth 20 euros, it's definitely well made, perfectly fits the look of the phone and prevents the back from direct contact but... well, the phone has a perfect size for my hand and the bumper adds about 0.5 - 0.7 cm in width which makes it awkward to hold. I find myself removing it often when using my phone.
My 2 cents.
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Does your phone have touch sensitive issue?

Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.

droidmakespwn said:
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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I don't have any issues whatsoever from the 1st batch. The more you try to look for something to be wrong the higher the chance that something unnoticeable will begin to irritate you lol.

Zero issues with the first batch. But if these phones get better with each batch, imagine the 50th batch!
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Ordered 2, sending both back

Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping

ctbear said:
Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?

send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck

phositadc said:
Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!

I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?

Lt.Tealc said:
if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week

So did you get a replacement ?

ceejay83 said:
There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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phositadc said:
Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.

ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )

rabbit140 said:
Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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phositadc said:
Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
ogrillion said:
I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.

You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
Batcom2

zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
Batcom2
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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ctbear said:
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.

icy_virtuoso6 said:
I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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HTC Battery Failure

While this is not an issue that's necessarily related directly to the HTC One (but HTC's in general) and since I am considering the purchase of an HTC One, it made sense to post it in here.
Does anyone know of the general failure rate of HTC Batteries? Since the HTC Battery is non-removable, I'm trying to gather some information on failure rates, in order to determine just how risky it could / would be to get a phone with such a drawback (it would be my first phone with a non-removable battery).
Of course this issue would compound itself in complexity if the battery dies after the warranty expires.
Reason I ask this is because my Sammy Note battery died 14 months after purchase and all it took was buying a new batter to get my device back up and running. There would be no such luck with the HTC one
Any feedback would be appreciated.

Batteries are subjective to a lot if things, such as usage, weather,charge cycles etc. Cell phone batteries that can not be replaced by the user can be replaced by the manufateuer, for a fee if course. Most people get 12 to 18 months before needing to replace their battery.
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My S2 battery is still ok after 23 months. No need for a removable battery for me. 3 weeks until my One!
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Regarding to HTC. . . My One X has lasted since the week of release and still going strong. . . Lasts all day (If im not playing games all the time) and has been charged EVERY night since owned. . . HTC's prior to this i had multiple batteries for... not that they lasted, but because i was such a heavy user, but they still lasted around 2 years each, May still last now but sold the handsets so couldnt tell you. . .

encrypshun said:
While this is not an issue that's necessarily related directly to the HTC One (but HTC's in general) and since I am considering the purchase of an HTC One, it made sense to post it in here.
Does anyone know of the general failure rate of HTC Batteries? Since the HTC Battery is non-removable, I'm trying to gather some information on failure rates, in order to determine just how risky it could / would be to get a phone with such a drawback (it would be my first phone with a non-removable battery).
Of course this issue would compound itself in complexity if the battery dies after the warranty expires.
Reason I ask this is because my Sammy Note battery died 14 months after purchase and all it took was buying a new batter to get my device back up and running. There would be no such luck with the HTC
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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the battery can be replaced its just not easy. when i bought the phone i asked tmobile about the battery and what i could do if it started to lose its charge. they told me that if i noticed any loss of battery i could bring the phone back within 2 years and they would replace the phone for $20 with a new phone. not a refurb but a new one. besides most of the time with phones that have built in batteries they use higher quality ones that dont lose their charge as fast. plus with the battery being sealed the moisture in the air doesnt degrade the battery as fast so they would last longer than a battery that is open to the elements

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the battery can be replaced its just not easy. when i bought the phone i asked tmobile about the battery and what i could do if it started to lose its charge. they told me that if i noticed any loss of battery i could bring the phone back within 2 years and they would replace the phone for $20 with a new phone. not a refurb but a new one. besides most of the time with phones that have built in batteries they use higher quality ones that dont lose their charge as fast. plus with the battery being sealed the moisture in the air doesnt degrade the battery as fast so they would last longer than a battery that is open to the elements
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I hope you got that in writing, never heard of a Cell Phone Carrier giving someone a new phone after 2 years for $20.00.

grneyez said:
I hope you got that in writing, never heard of a Cell Phone Carrier giving someone a new phone after 2 years for $20.00.
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if people can exchange their phone because of the tiniest gap then im pretty sure if the battery doesnt hold a charge they will replace it

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if people can exchange their phone because of the tiniest gap then im pretty sure if the battery doesnt hold a charge they will replace it
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People exchange their phones within 30 days, they don't exchange them 2 years later and T-Mobile gives them a new phone. Think about what your saying, it makes no sense.
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skinsfanbdh said:
the battery can be replaced its just not easy. when i bought the phone i asked tmobile about the battery and what i could do if it started to lose its charge. they told me that if i noticed any loss of battery i could bring the phone back within 2 years and they would replace the phone for $20 with a new phone. not a refurb but a new one. besides most of the time with phones that have built in batteries they use higher quality ones that dont lose their charge as fast. plus with the battery being sealed the moisture in the air doesnt degrade the battery as fast so they would last longer than a battery that is open to the elements
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I've been with T-Mobile for 11 yrs and I can 100% guarantee you that whoever told you that was smoking bath salts.
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thats funny because after having my s2 for a year and a half the power button kept sticking making it bootloop. took it to tmobile and they gave me another one for free. maybe you just need to learn how to talk to people

skinsfanbdh said:
thats funny because after having my s2 for a year and a half the power button kept sticking making it bootloop. took it to tmobile and they gave me another one for free. maybe you just need to learn how to talk to people
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So you just recently brought your s2 in to Tmobile and got a new one? Because the s2 is just about to turn a year and a half old. So you would have had to do it just recently. Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Now if you had said you called 611 within a year of owning the phone or had insurance on the phone then I'd believe you. You get a refurb sent to you and the cost is $5-$20. But walking in to a T-Mobile store a year and a half later and getting a new phone? Nah.
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TMobile is effin USELESS when it comes to assisting customers who don't have insurance. My existing BB9900 through work has been dismal in functionality and they blame water damage to screw me out of a replacement on a device that's barely a few months old. I vented in this thread on the Crackberry forums.
Unless you have a family member working in that store who's gonna sneak you out a device from the backdoor, my personal experience with Tmobile makes me wish you good luck in thinking you're gonna get a replacement.

dirtyhamster73 said:
So you just recently brought your s2 in to Tmobile and got a new one? Because the s2 is just about to turn a year and a half old. So you would have had to do it just recently. Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Now if you had said you called 611 within a year of owning the phone or had insurance on the phone then I'd believe you. You get a refurb sent to you and the cost is $5-$20. But walking in to a T-Mobile store a year and a half later and getting a new phone? Nah.
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yes 2 weeks ago i exchanged my s2 in store then sold it on craigslist to pay off what i owed on it and to pay the down payment on my new phone. i could careless what you believe and i have had nothing but good experiences with customer service in store.

skinsfanbdh said:
yes 2 weeks ago i exchanged my s2 in store then sold it on craigslist to pay off what i owed on it and to pay the down payment on my new phone. i could careless what you believe and i have had nothing but good experiences with customer service in store.
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As have I, T-Mobile has been very good to me...I upgraded to the vibrant and then 7 months later they let me get the sensation for $179, after I had just upgraded. (With loyalty, not in store) They did that for me two other times in the 11 yrs I've been with them. Never an issue with them. But policy is policy and walking in to a store after a year and a half and getting a new phone for $20 wouldn't happen without insurance, and that's not even how insurance claims are processed. End of story for me.
How do you still owe money on a 1 1/2 yr old phone????? You know what, never mind....could care less.
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dirtyhamster73 said:
As have I, T-Mobile has been very good to me...I upgraded to the vibrant and then 7 months later they let me get the sensation for $179, after I had just upgraded. (With loyalty, not in store) They did that for me two other times in the 11 yrs I've been with them. Never an issue with them. But policy is policy and walking in to a store after a year and a half and getting a new phone for $20 wouldn't happen without insurance, and that's not even how insurance claims are processed. End of story for me.
How do you still owe money on a 1 1/2 yr old phone????? You know what, never mind....could care less.
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Point made, don't waste your time with him. He is obviously confused.
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Third Party DIY Nexus 10 Internal Battery Replace & Review

Apologies in advance, I could not post proper links for this review due to my low post count.
Background
I ordered a Nexus 10 on November 20th, 2012. Initially, I was pleased by the battery life (~6.5 hours). Probably a bit like the "Boiling Frog" metaphor, the battery life degraded and I didn't notice it. I began to notice the battery degradation recently when my tablet began doing the 0% battery shutdown at ~30%.
First thing I did was get on the phone with Google, to see if I could get them to warranty the battery. Being a couple of months out of warranty, I wasn't expecting it to work, but it couldn't hurt. Denied. So, I called Samsung. After two hours and 8 different technical support phone numbers, they couldn't recognize my tablet serial number. I'm guessing it was unrecognized (which is no excuse, by the way) because I bought it on the Google Play Store. Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note. They told me they would research and return my call at a later time.
My Nexus 10 is a daily driver with a minimum of 3 hours of use a day and often over 6. After impatiently waiting a few days, I began to panic. I began to believe that I had paid ~$500 for a device that, after a few more cells died, was going to be an expensive brick. I did some research and could find NO reviews on the NewPower99 battery kit, and since I felt that my options were relatively few, I decided to take the plunge.
Kit Contents and Cost
Ordered from Amazon for $75.41 (shipping and taxes included)
1 Cameron Sino 9000 mAh 33.3Wh Lithium-Polymer Battery Pack
One tiny screw screwdriver
Two tiny plastic prying tools
One plastic video disk (Not sure what it does, they special players can spin it fast and a video will play(!!??))
The Replacement and Pitfalls
Rather than using the included plastic video disk, I searched YouTube until I found the video: NewPower99 by NewLife2OldStuff. It's a great primer for this battery replacement, but there are a few parts where the disassembler's chubby fingers get in the way of disconnecting connectors. I suggest watching a few other Nexus 10 teardown videos prior to the actual teardown.
Prior to this, I had not attempted any mobile device disassembly/assembly. I did break a little insulation on the video card connector on the main board but this is due to me only watching the NewPower99 video and missing a detail (pull the display cable rather than flip the connector). Also due to how delicate the internals are, I did not push the display connector in far enough, which led to the display power being spotty. So, I had to redisassemble the tablet a few days later and reconnect it. Had I done more research and been a bit more patient, I'm sure the replacement would have been flawless.
The aftermath
My tablet has not yet exploded. As a matter of fact, one week in, I'm amazed. I've fell back in love with my tablet. Since the battery replacement, I usually don't need to charge until the end of the day. I run a conservative brightness on the display and, of course, that helps. Also, while I've done no metrics, I believe I've seen an unintended improvement: the charge time has improved. It was not unusual for me to plugin during sleep and still not have a full charge in the morning, which I haven't seen happen since battery replacement.
At a later time, I intend to respond to this post with an unscientific update on the battery's life. If the battery life stays relatively the same, I wouldn't really mind yearly replacement at this battery's warranty limitation and probably expected minimum life. Small price to pay for great battery life and a very underrated tablet.
Also, Samsung did, finally, return my support call a few days ago but I never called back. Don't call me, I'll call you .

Light Statistics (screenshots below)
~11:46 battery time
~6:45 display on time (top battery user)
~1:45 RetroArch (runner up top battery user)
These aren't really shabby for this tablet. Non-scientifically: the display was at ~25% brightness (in-house usage) >95% of the time, and never went below that. ~3-5% of the time the display was 100% (outdoors).
Program usage was an ordinary day of tablet use.

Not going to lie this is quite an informative post since the battery went bad over the course of a year later... I don't use my tablet as much as I first used to, but with all this android tech talk and new phones coming out at this time I use it more than I normally have (and also for the room 2 love that game!). I will definitely subscribe to this post so I have it handy if/when my battery starts doing the same thing as well in due time.

Thanks for this thread. My tablet has been going to 0% when it reaches 15%. So I've been looking to get a replacement battery. Cheers mate.

Avuton Olrich said:
Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note.
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Next time, give them the model #. Samsung GT-P8110

thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?

xOnerOs said:
thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?
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Wow, that's an impressive price and I definitely would have taken it from there. I can't really speak about any company's reliability in general but the newpower99 thing worked well in my case. The only thing I'd have to say about getting it directly from cameroninobattery.com is finding those tiny tools; it shouldn't be that difficult at all (definitely worth the $50 to find them!). Still loving the battery life. :good:

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E-shop with the battery available?
Just for the record, e-shops (below) don't seem to have the battery in stock these days, but there are many sold at e-bay if one searches SP3496A8H (the part number).
* http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Nexus-GT-P8110-Replacement-Installation/dp/B00F3T9SYC (out of stock)
* http://www.newpower99.com/Google_Nexus10_Battery_Replacement_Kit_p/google-nexus-10.htm (says available, but I ordered and got money back with they explanation they don't have those in stock)
* http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/1435-samsung-gt-p8110-gtp8110-ha32arb-google-nexus-1/ (out of stock)

I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on ebay. Extremely disapointed with this.

mr_fro2000 said:
I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on eBay. Extremely disappointed with this.
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I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.

CombustLemonz said:
I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.
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I am having the same problem. Nobody has the battery. So I finally found something on Alibabba and ordered it straight from china for something like $35 (through a friend's account, so I don't have the details at the moment). I expect it will take at least a month to get here. I hope it works and lasts, cheap batteries rarely work out very well in the long term.... but what choice do I have? This is a $500 tablet that is not that old! It now powers down at 70% battery, usually less than an hour playing a game

I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?

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EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Just a (size 0?) phillips (you can pull off the cover to see the screw size). If it fits one, it'll fit all you need to get it pulled off. :good:

Somewhat offtopic, I might end up getting the new Nexus tablet, regardless. The center of my screen has started getting a brown burn-in color, most visible when the screen is white. Which is quite a shame, this tablet is still plenty peppy for me (it's my fastest development device), and have no other problems with the device at all (the battery still shines). The monitor life was probably accelerated by the high sleep time (10 or 30 minutes, don't remember which one) since it's a development machine I keep it on between compiles so it's there when I need it. :crying:

michaelearth said:
I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!

mr_fro2000 said:
Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!
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Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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michaelearth said:
Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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That would be awesome, thanks!

looking for nexus 10 battery replacement in india
hi,
i am also facing the same issue. request you to intimate if you can find one in india?

Anyone bought from here/?? I have just ordered it.. cross my fingers..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATTERY-ORIGINAL-SP3496A8H-SAMSUNG-GOOGLE/dp/B00IXODOL2