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Question is in the topic. Ive been thinking about picking up the DNA but I heard their might be a DNA+. That might be kind of a wait. My question is does the unlocked One support Verizon frequencies?
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http://www9-shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
So your answer is yes? The real question is would Verizon activate it
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Verizon uses 700MHz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands)
I don't think any of the HTC One models have that (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/15)
They do for LTE, but I think the phone cannot make calls on LTE alone. Not sure if I am correct here or not.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
I guess voice is over 850 / 1900, so yes, unlocked is technically compatible I think... since it does CDMA for sprint... maybe???
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)*
In any case, Verizon doesn't use SIMs, and I doubt you could get them to activate it on their network.
sirmims said:
Question is in the topic. Ive been thinking about picking up the DNA but I heard their might be a DNA+. That might be kind of a wait. My question is does the unlocked One support Verizon frequencies?
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You wish ... move to a GSM carrier and ditch the crappy CDMA Verizon/Sprint.
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you can look at the link, or check any thread.
There is no metion of verzion anywhere
Verizon uses 700 frequency and 3g runs on that freq so wouldnt it work?
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rpmccormick said:
Verizon uses 700MHz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands)
I don't think any of the HTC One models have that (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/15)
They do for LTE, but I think the phone cannot make calls on LTE alone. Not sure if I am correct here or not.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
I guess voice is over 850 / 1900, so yes, unlocked is technically compatible I think... since it does CDMA for sprint... maybe???
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)*
In any case, Verizon doesn't use SIMs, and I doubt you could get them to activate it on their network.
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Verizon uses sims and they said they might for me since theyve sent me 3 replacement notes. They just wont say if itll work or not
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Verizon is CDMA. Unlocked phones are GSM. Also, just because the frequencies might be similar, they're two completely different protocols.
Short answer, as someone who used to work at Verizon and just knows a lot about this stuff: No. Verizon will only activate phones that they sell you. And SIM cards on Verizon are only used for LTE, not for CDMA service. The unlocked One is a GSM phone.
But doesnt it feature LTE frequencies?
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But doesnt it feature LTE frequencies?
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AT&T and Verizon's LTE frequencies may both be 700 MHz, but they're not the same 700 MHz, in a nutshell. And even if they were:
1. You'd only get data. No texting and no phone calls, which go over CDMA.
2. The above is assuming that Verizon's network infrastructure will authenticate a non-Verizon phone, which it won't, because CDMA carriers use a whitelist and only activate their own branded devices.
I hate to cross-thread post, but you seem to know your stuff... how does the Sprint model work, as it too is a CDMA network?
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I hate to cross-thread post, but you seem to know your stuff... how does the Sprint model work, as it too is a CDMA network?
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Coincidentally, I also worked for Sprint. But everything I've said is pretty much common knowledge. It's the same as the Verizon as far as I know. Only difference, which I picked up from reviews, is that it uses an actual SIM instead of an embedded SIM like all other Sprint phones. But again, that's only for LTE purposes.
Now, a Verizon HTC One will most likely work on AT&T (since Verizon phones aren't allowed to be locked, as part of an FCC agreement in exchange for being allowed to use the 700 MHz band of LTE spectrum). But Sprint usually has manufacturers block out US-based SIM cards, even if the device is unlocked. This was the case with the iPhone 4S, 5, and all other Sprint SIM-capable devices.
TL;DR: Sprint is the same.
Thats a letdown idk if the developer edition is any different
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...but I'm saying there exists a Sprint HTC One, and Sprint is a CDMA network, so can't that technically work on VZW?
(if VZW would be willing to activate it in their system, which they most likely would never do)
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Thats a letdown idk if the developer edition is any different
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Nope.
Verizon to Verizon, Sprint to Sprint, unless they each release their own developer editions (which Verizon has done for the S3).
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...but I'm saying there exists a Sprint HTC One, and Sprint is a CDMA network, so can't that technically work on VZW?
(if VZW would be willing to activate it in their system, which they most likely would never do)
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If Verizon were willing to activate it, sure it would run on their network. However LTE wouldn't work because Sprint phones do 1900 Mhz LTE. For what it's worth, I have seen Sprint phones flashed onto PagePlus, which is a Verizon based prepaid carrier.
What is the reason why this dev edition is only for the USA customers and I'm curious as to whether it could work in the Bahamas even though we use 1900mhz and 850mhz bands here
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As far as I can tell, it's a replacement for the AT&T version, which is likely to not be unlockable through htcdev, all other versions are.
I think it's because the developer edition is basically an unlocked AT&T version, so it kinda make sense to distribute them in the U.S only since that's the area AT&T covers. It supports those frequencies so it should work in the Bahamas.
If so, can you get at&t lte speeds with it? and do they have it in black or expected date? Thanks!
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If so, can you get at&t lte speeds with it? and do they have it in black or expected date? Thanks!
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Yes it has all the bands for AT&T and LTE is great on it. They have indicated it will only come in the silver variant.
Here are my LTE speeds on at&t.
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HTC One - 64 GB Dev. Edition
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
charcoalbox said:
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
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TMo
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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TMo
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Thank you!
yghrv said:
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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Thanks alot.
I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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Have you confirmed if it worked or not? I am thinking of sending a few to Honduras to run on Claro and it looks like they should be able to get nano sims there since Claro offers the iPhone 5S. They currently all have Droid 3 phones.
I've got an ATT Moto X, proparly unlocked; works fine in Europe, w/o any issues! Few ATT spamware (phonebook, backup) disabled, everything else is just fine pure Android experience. Got mine from Ebay.
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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skotturi said:
I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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Verizon LTE devices come sim unlocked for GSM carriers. It's part of an agreement with the FCC. You can use it stateside and globally.
T-Mobile or the Dev gsm is best for travel other than for Korea and Japan and even then you will have 3g
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xylencia said:
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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Cool. Moreover, I actually used LiveChat with a Motorola rep and she confirmed that only T-Mobile's version comes carrier unlocked out of the box. Even though NO CONTRACT options are also available with the other carriers.
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Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
kolyan said:
Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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That sucks. I am pretty sure T-Mobile S4 had band 7... ..I checked Nexus 5 also doesn't have it.
Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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amarguli said:
You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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Now is not the only model at the moment. European Moto X (I don't know model number yet) supports band 7 too
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Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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But ATT doesn't have 1700. All Motos missing something.....sucks
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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import tax only =))
using AT&T Moto x in Ireland, no probs! The only warning - don't take Sprint's one - you won't be able to unlock it, as it appeared to be pure CDMA device
Basically what okaban said. I'd see if you could get the GSM unlocked version (as called the T-Mobile version) but if there's an AT&T Moto X you really like you should be fine. If you see a Verizon one you like, I don't think you need to modify anything if you're not in the US. I know this was the case with my RAZR M (I had to unlock the radio for it to work in the US though).
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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You can't have UK LTE bands on US phones: I think that LTE might be already a factor deserving consideration in the UK. In the UK you have 800/1800/2600 MHz and the only US model which supports at least 2600 is ATT. It might be better with Latin America models but I'm not sure.
If LTE is an issue for you, I would wait for the 32gb European model.
If it's not an issue for you, you would be ok with a ATT or the Dev Edition GSM version (which I have been using since Thursday in Ireland)
Tapatalked from my MotoX Dev Edition.
I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
Yep, I'm using a GSM DE (xt1053) in Spain and it shows "4G", where 3g+-only phones would display "H".
This is not LTE, and no US model will ever work on any European LTE (real 4G) network that I'm aware of regardless of whether or not you try flashing country-specific firmware. The LTE radios are physically different. LTE doesn't exist where I am so it's not a concern, but if you have access to an LTE signal then DEFINITELY spend the extra cash for your country-specific model.
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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The US market is a little nuts so US phones show 4G for HSPA and 4GLTE for LTE connections. The rest of the world(most of it anyway) shows the proper protocol for the connection type. (H, LTE etc)