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Flash from ATT to Tmobile?

Hi, so I recently bought a used HTC Windows Phone 8X, but it is only for ATT, and I don't want to pay the $20 unlocking fee, so is there a software, or something I can use to unlock it, or do I have to pay for the code?
Thanks.

TO be honest, I haven't really seen any material on the HTC 8X, whether its a utility to extract roms or a source where they can be obtained. Hopefully someone can be a little more help than me just saying no.

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You'll either need to call AT&T or go online and have get a carrier unlock code. The only roms available for the 8X are european.

thals1992 said:
You'll either need to call AT&T or go online and have get a carrier unlock code. The only roms available for the 8X are european.
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But I have never actually used att so I am not sure if I can actually ret ty
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Actually get the unlock code.
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As someone who has unlocked a few iPhones from AT&T via their chat service (I've never been an AT&T Customer), I can say it's worth a shot to try that first. It's free and the worst they can say is "no". Having said that, keep in mind that the T-Mobile variant of the HTC 8x is a different model than the AT&T one. The AT&T one give you LTE on T-Mobile, but they disabled HSPA+ over AWS. (The chipset supports it). The T-Mobile version is the same as the international version with the addition of AWS support in the radio.
I have a TMO HTC 8x and looked into this quite a bit.

Don't know about software, but you get an unlock code on eBay for under $5......
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[Q] exactly which versions can have bootloaders unlocked?

I found an XT1053 on eBay with a spanish user manual. Bought it assuming the bootloader would be unlockable on the motorola site but I was wrong. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 lists the supported devices but "Latin America" doesn't get too specific.
Anyone know how we can determine which devices can be bootloader unlocked? I'd hate to go through this again. Maybe I should have just spent the extra $100 for a t-mobile version... I sure do like the lack of carrier branding on this device.

A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
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1ManWolfePack said:
A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
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Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.

jnichols959 said:
Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.
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just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition, same model xt1053.

mohlsen8 said:
just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition.
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Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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jnichols959 said:
Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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double check, but I'm 99% sure. they weren't even selling it in stores or on their own website as far as I know. no physical branding or software I'm pretty sure.

[Q] Is this the Moto X variant I should buy?

So I'm in for buying a Moto X. One little problem is that I live in Europe. My carrier is T-Mobile NL.
The LTE bands of T-Mobile NL are: band 3 and 7
The UMTS frequencies of T-Mobile NL are: 900/1800/2100.
And according to the Wikipedia page of the Moto X, the AT&T variant(XT1058) supports LTE band 7 and UMTS frequency 900/2100.
So will LTE and UMTS work on my carrier?
Is the AT&T sim unlockable/bootloader unlockable/rootable/customromable?
And am I better of buying the Dev Unlocked GSM variant?

I'd say you're better off buying a Rogers Canada XT1058 - they are woven black or white and 16gb only but they can be bootloader unlocked, sim unlocked for 8 dollars or less and they support LTE band 7. No branding in firmware or hardware.
It is easy to install the dev edition firmware once you unlock the bootloader.
The AT&T Moto X unofficially supports band 7 LTE but it can't be bootloader unlocked and includes bloatware in the firmware and is branded on the back of the phone with a AT&T logo. They are simlocked but can be unlocked most of the time(some people have had problems)
The GSM dev edition is a great phone but doesn't support band 7 LTE. It can have the bootloader unlocked without voiding warranty and is sim unlocked from factory.

Steve-x said:
I'd say you're better off buying a Rogers Canada XT1058 - they are woven black or white and 16gb only but they can be bootloader unlocked, sim unlocked for 8 dollars or less and they support LTE band 7. No branding in firmware or hardware.
It is easy to install the dev edition firmware once you unlock the bootloader.
The AT&T Moto X unofficially supports band 7 LTE but it can't be bootloader unlocked and includes bloatware in the firmware and is branded on the back of the phone with a AT&T logo. They are simlocked but can be unlocked most of the time(some people have had problems)
The GSM dev edition is a great phone but doesn't support band 7 LTE. It can have the bootloader unlocked without voiding warranty and is sim unlocked from factory.
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Well than why wouldn't I get the Rogers version?
I've found a site where it's being sold. But it says that it's unlocked, does that mean that it's bootloader unlocked or sim unlocked?
http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-moto-x-16gb-rogers-unlocked-black.html

They mean that it is sim unlocked. The price does seem a little high though. I'd be aiming to pay $400 USD or less for one. There are lots for sale locally to me on craigslist for great prices but most people won't be interested in shipping them.
I sold an as new one that was sim unlocked for $330.00 USD a few weeks back.

Steve-x said:
They mean that it is sim unlocked. The price does seem a little high though. I'd be aiming to pay $400 USD or less for one. There are lots for sale locally to me on craigslist for great prices but most people won't be interested in shipping them.
I sold an as new one that was sim unlocked for $330.00 USD a few weeks back.
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Ow LOL I hadn't seen the price on the site haha...
But thank you for your advice and I'll probably end up buying one from eBay.

Unlocked AT&T S5

Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?

Nope, paying full price for an "Unlocked AT&T" model, means it's carrier unlocked, bootloader is still locked down on all AT&T branded S5's. If your paying full price and want root, you should just buy an unlocked T-Mobile version from somewhere like swappa.com, supports AT&T frequencies and the bootloader comes unlocked.

It would be nice if XDA had a "Glossary of Terms" in the wiki that explained terms that are used often like"bootloader unlocked" and "carrier unlocked". Maybe, it wouldn't make much difference, but the some words and terms are often confused and are explained again. It might be easier to just link to the glossary.
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Keep in mind the phones aren't usually unlocked (carrier unlocked) at the point of sale and you'll have to submit an unlock request once you've bought it.. As a side note, I highly recommend buying the T-Mobile version, as it's compatible with at&t and DOES have the bootloader unlocked by default. There's really no reason to buy the at&t version if you're buying at full price.

kevinco1 said:
Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?
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If you are going to pay full price, just go to T-Mobile store and by the T-Mo version which comes with an unlocked bootloader and supports all AT&T frequencies, then just replace your back cover for an unbranded or at&T branded one.
the AT&T one will not get Root anytime soon.

Unlock Bootloader After Switching Carriers?

So, I'm assuming the whole bootloader unlocking process has less to do with the carrier itself and more with the software different carriers actually use on the phone. However, I was wondering if there was a possibility for me to unlock my AT&T MOTO X bootloader if I switch carriers. I'm moving to Europe in about a week and we are discontinuing our AT&T service and unlocking phones to move to a European carrier. Will this allow the possibility to unlock my bootloader? This is probably a stupid question but I was really wondering how it works. I'm not exchanging phone models or anything, I'm keeping the XT1058.
Edit: I won't be on a contract. I'll be using Italian pay-as-you-go services.
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The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.

samwathegreat said:
The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.
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I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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Neighbor808 said:
I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.

samwathegreat said:
Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.

Neighbor808 said:
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??

samwathegreat said:
Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??
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You've rekindled my hopes a fair bit. I was just afraid if my code from the middleman didn't work I'd be out $45. Maybe I will give it a try. I love this phone so much even after just a day. I guess the price would be worth it. As for the whole overseas switching and fee payment, my father is in the military. We are being stationed overseas per military orders, so AT&T is basically waiving the fees. We get upgrades and get out of the contract a little under a year early with virtually no repercussions, which is great. In the end, as much as I desire an unlocked bootloader, I may just keep the phone regardless of whether I can unlock or not. It is really amazing and Im not sure if I'd be happy with another phone I can get through AT&T. If only I could upgrade to Nexus 5 through AT&T, I don't really like Samsung or HTC.
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Yo what about the XT1056?

dmonleo said:
Yo what about the XT1056?
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I'm really not sure what you are asking... "Yo what about the XT1056"???
The XT1056 is SIM-Locked to Sprint. If you are a current Sprint customer, and meet certain criteria, sprint will "OTA-Unlock" your XT1056 for international use ONLY. XT1056 cannot be used domestically on any U.S. GSM carrier, even with "OTA-Unlock". Additionally, with the XT1056 you cannot "buy" a SIM-Unlock code from an online merchant. The ONLY way to unlock is through Sprint, and only if you are a current customer and meet other criteria, and even then, it's international GSM use only.

Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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Yeah, that's an incredibly smart route to take. Unfortunately, I'm leaving the states too soon to do any deals on swappa. Pie root and Xposed Framework is good enough for the time being I suppose.
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