Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf
Yes you should root it if you want to use usb-otg. I decided not to root mine on day one and now I'm looking for a method that won't erase everthing on my device. So if you see yourself needing that in the future do it now rather than later .
shemsha said:
Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf
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This is a Nexus device which makes to easy to root and unroot..
If an OTA comes out you can be unrooted and back stock in a matter of minutes..
Oddly, I have had no reason or desire to root my N7 and I even put my GNex back stock...
If you do root, do it before you install all kinds of stuff. You have to reset to root. Not sure how the Google credit works, but you might want to register the device, get the credit, then root. Just in case.
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I was reluctant to root or not. CM10 is only a preview, other roms not much better than stock, I don't need OTG, so why root? For one crucial app: TITANIUM BACKUP. When you unlock and root everything is wiped!
My suggestion is unlock the bootloader right away since that part wipes data, then root when (and if) you decide to download an app that needs root access.
Easier to Root now rather than later. Rooting requires you to wipe losing all apps and settings.
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Yes. First thing I always do on a Nexus device is unlock and root. It's just as easy to lock it again and flash the stock rom if ever needed.
I would unlock the bootloader at a minimum, before you set anything up, as that action will wipe data. If you decide to root later on you'll be in great shape.
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Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
I rooted mine using the One click root tool, very easy.
Got to be worth it to install ad block and sixaxis.
Like others have said, at the very minimum, unlock the bootloader (a prerequisite for rooting) right away. If you decide to unlock it later you'll have to wipe the device.
Absolutely. Just make sure you bookmark (in the cloud) how to unroot before you root (including restoring stock bootloader). It would also be smart to read what issues other folks have had, and what they did to solve their problems. (In short, always have a concrete, detailed exit plan before you start something.)
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shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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That is an excellent point I am very anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.
shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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clago87 said:
That is an excellent point I anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.
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Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)
krelvinaz said:
Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)
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I am actually glad to be at work for once. I am very easily swayed and am ready to unlock and root lol. I have read all the info on it and it does not seem too much of a burden compared to my atrix
I'm kind of confused, do I unlocked the bootlocker first or install 4.1.1 updates?
If I install then unlock, would the updates be gone?
Would I be able to update even after unlock and root?
i rooted even though i had already installed apps etc... its very handy to be able to use external storage and apps like titanium backup.. i dont really intend installing customs roms.. but the otg support was enough to warrant rooting for me
You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.
hydroxyde said:
You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.
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Yep was just about to say this, picked this method up in the OneX forums, life saver
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Hello!
I was wondering whether it is possible to root the phone without wipe. Unfortunately, I have been using my phone for over a week now and would hate to have it wiped and have it all recustomized yet again... Towelroot for my N5 worked great, anything available for N6? Thanks!
Nope. Gotta wipe. Just do it, now. The longer you wait the worse it will be.
No it is not possible, you have to wipe. The only way you don't have to wipe is if your bootloader was already previously unlocked.
If customizing your phone and redoing it is something you don't like then I recommend staying to stock because having root will make your phone fail when it comes to ota updates.
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I'm using locked rooted Kitkat,
updated via Sony PC Companion without wiping anything
after the updating to lollipop, it charges so slow, even when it's turned off
I used all the chargers here.
I'm planning to go back to kitkat without losing any app data.
I have no recovery and not rooted in lollipop. What can I do?
ferbuffer said:
I'm using locked rooted Kitkat,
updated via Sony PC Companion without wiping anything
after the updating to lollipop, it charges so slow, even when it's turned off
I used all the chargers here.
I'm planning to go back to kitkat without losing any app data.
I have no recovery and not rooted in lollipop. What can I do?
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Backup your data using Titanium Backup or something app like that, and copy your backup OUT from your phone.
You can't downgrade WITHOUT wipe internal storage, because Sony implement encryption by default, as Google recommended it for used in Android 5.0.x
You can try downgrade without wipe internal data, if you don't believe what I say xD
I believe in you, But it's just hard to backup my data esp using titanium backup because im not rooted.
I think your only option is to wait for a Root method for Lollipop that does not require a downgrade first so you can use Titanium again. I tried to keep Data last night when I downgraded in prep for a rootable re-upgrade, and it froze during boot. Trying again while wiping the Data partition worked flawlessly.
Honestly, unless there's something stuck in there that you absolutely can't do without, your best bet would be to just take the loss and format the Data along with your downgrade.
I was eager to wait for the root without wiping data on lollipop.
But last night I solved my problem, I uninstalled Xposed and the apps from Xposed.
My phone is not discharging so fast now.
hello guys ,, dev.
i have problem with downgrading lollipop to kitkat on sony c3 d2505 it stop on flashing looder and there is no blue light on phone led .... please help what to do ??
looking around i can not find anywhere that exactly states what versions of android and on what devices towelroot supports. My question specifically being for the S5 SM-G900A att phone. I am right now on lollipop and i realise i have to downgrade, but I only want to downgrade as little as possible to get towelroot to work. (the end goal being root access of course)
On another note I have two other questions i will ask here so as to not clutter the forum.
1. is there anyway to downgrade my android version without wiping all my data?
if not, any advice on backing up all my data before it gets wiped? mainly my photos, apps, and appdata.
2. I see the only custom recovery i can use is safestrap, i have read is some places that it can not backup your user data (videos, photos, etc.) and nowhere mention it does. question being if this is true and if so how can i back up all my data? i really like the idea of just doing weekly rom backups and being able to restore all my apps and all my data with very little lost (less then a week is good enough for me).
brazblue said:
looking around i can not find anywhere that exactly states what versions of android and on what devices towelroot supports. My question specifically being for the S5 SM-G900A att phone. I am right now on lollipop and i realise i have to downgrade, but I only want to downgrade as little as possible to get towelroot to work. (the end goal being root access of course)
On another note I have two other questions i will ask here so as to not clutter the forum.
1. is there anyway to downgrade my android version without wiping all my data?
if not, any advice on backing up all my data before it gets wiped? mainly my photos, apps, and appdata.
2. I see the only custom recovery i can use is safestrap, i have read is some places that it can not backup your user data (videos, photos, etc.) and nowhere mention it does. question being if this is true and if so how can i back up all my data? i really like the idea of just doing weekly rom backups and being able to restore all my apps and all my data with very little lost (less then a week is good enough for me).
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If you took the OTA update to 5.0 their is currently no way to safely downgrade and root.
Towel root only worked on 4.4.2 kernel.
Safestrap no longer works in 5.0 either.
Just have to hang tight till someone figures out root for stock 5.0.
Thank you for the help, i did not realize it was for 4.4.2 only. (why no list of working versions) as well you say no safe way to downgrade.....are there options or is it impossible? I just got the phone recently and I wasn't the one to update it, I got it second hand and well i can't control what has happened to it before me. sadly it was updated to 5.0
I may attempt a unsafe downgrade if possible, it really depends on what risk levels and if it's risk of doing something wrong and bricking or if there is a risk out of your hands and it may or may not work. else i will just wait and not update my phone in the time being.
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If you took the OTA update to 5.0 their is currently no way to safely downgrade and root.
Towel root only worked on 4.4.2 kernel.
Safestrap no longer works in 5.0 either.
Just have to hang tight till someone figures out root for stock 5.0.
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brazblue said:
Thank you for the help, i did not realize it was for 4.4.2 only. (why no list of working versions) as well you say no safe way to downgrade.....are there options or is it impossible? I just got the phone recently and I wasn't the one to update it, I got it second hand and well i can't control what has happened to it before me. sadly it was updated to 5.0
I may attempt a unsafe downgrade if possible, it really depends on what risk levels and if it's risk of doing something wrong and bricking or if there is a risk out of your hands and it may or may not work. else i will just wait and not update my phone in the time being.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3077652
The above post is the unbrick/downgrade thread for the g900a.
You'll notice it says not to attempt if you've taken the OC4 ota...I'd read through their first. At this point it looks pretty risky.
Good luck either way you go!
So I've decided that I really want to try out Samsung Pay, and I'm willing to give up root to do it. I'm currently on AOCE partially upgraded to OF4 using the method described here.
My main goal is to not lose any of my app data, so I'd like it to be as much of an in-place upgrade as possible (barring any root-related apps/settings)
My current plan is:
Titanium backup my current setup.
Odin to Stock AOCE
Root with pingpong root
Restore with Titanium Backup
Unroot
Upgrade via OTA or smartswitch.
Does anyone see an issue with this plan, or have a suggestion for a better one? I really just want to keep all of my app data from all of my non-root apps without chancing losing anything.
Thanks.
reffu said:
So I've decided that I really want to try out Samsung Pay, and I'm willing to give up root to do it. I'm currently on AOCE partially upgraded to OF4 using the method described here.
My main goal is to not lose any of my app data, so I'd like it to be as much of an in-place upgrade as possible (barring any root-related apps/settings)
My current plan is:
Titanium backup my current setup.
Odin to Stock AOCE
Root with pingpong root
Restore with Titanium Backup
Unroot
Upgrade via OTA or smartswitch.
Does anyone see an issue with this plan, or have a suggestion for a better one? I really just want to keep all of my app data from all of my non-root apps without chancing losing anything.
Thanks.
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That sounds like it should work as you planned to me.
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reffu said:
So I've decided that I really want to try out Samsung Pay, and I'm willing to give up root to do it. I'm currently on AOCE partially upgraded to OF4 using the method described here.
My main goal is to not lose any of my app data, so I'd like it to be as much of an in-place upgrade as possible (barring any root-related apps/settings)
My current plan is:
Titanium backup my current setup.
Odin to Stock AOCE
Root with pingpong root
Restore with Titanium Backup
Unroot
Upgrade via OTA or smartswitch.
Does anyone see an issue with this plan, or have a suggestion for a better one? I really just want to keep all of my app data from all of my non-root apps without chancing losing anything.
Thanks.
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I know this is probably a stupid question but how can you unroot without restoring the ROM?
Is it as simple as using unroot in SuperUser?
I'm on AOE2 and thinking of going back to stock. So if I can go back to stock with re-flashing the ROM I think I'll do it.
Please let me know.