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The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
Nope. It's the same on the Droid 3.
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
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myrandex said:
That's complete BS. I was ready to buy the D2G outright (not a Verizon customer), but didn't because of this prime example of Verizon continued lock down of their devices.
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Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
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Much like AT&T and T-Mobile locking their devices as well? Sure you can unlock the phones but you have to be a customer for X amount of months, and that's the same with Verizon. Much like how AT&T for a while didn't like anyone side loading applications on their Android devices? Much like AT&T not allowing their iPhones to be unlocked?
Sorry man before you make any one carrier/manufacturer look like the "bad guy" you should make sure others are not doing it.
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Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
Reread what I said, and think harder about what I said. Regardless if you can pay or not. It's still locked from the moment you purchased it. You have to wait Months to get an unlock code or pay someone to unlock it for you. Just because Verizon locks you out from using it from other carriers there are way to adjust it. You could always purchase a milestone which is the same thing right?
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Radio bands etc etc
DukeL said:
Yah but on a att or tmobile phone you can simply buy the code and voila you are good to go. You unlock a vzw phone and you still cant use it since they put custom software that specifically blocks u from using it in the U.S. so when you unlock it its still not really unlocked. Its a douche move.
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Actually, most unlocked AT&T and T-Mobile smartphones won't work on 3G on the other's network. Different bands. Same sort of attempt at locking the phone from being used with other domestic carriers just like Verizon. When the companies pay for an exclusive within the country, they want to do their best to protect their investment and keep it exclusive.
This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
Actually I was referring to the carrier lock that needed to be removed for US bands.
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This also applies for GSM carriers outside of the US? I live in Barbados and we use 1800 I believe, was looking at picking up a D3 unlocked once the bootloader lock had been circumvented.
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according to the wikipedia entry it does not support 1800Mhz bands =\ If I'm not mistaken, that's the same as Tmobile in America for UMTS 3G bands
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The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro had a SIM card slot but can't be unlocked for US carriers. Is the Droid 3 any different?
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DROID 3 - Will my phone work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Will the Droid 3 work using other GSM SIM such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States?
Your phone is designed to be utilized with the pre-installed SIM card. You will need to enable international roaming AND activate your pre-installed SIM card in your phone when traveling outside of the U.S.
The GSM and UMTS bands that are supported in Droid3 Global will not work in the United States. The GSM and UMTS bands are only able to be utilized outside the U.S. A GSM SIM card such as AT&T or T-Mobile will not operate in the U.S.
Contact Verizon Wireless for more information dial *611 from your cell phone or call Verizon Wireless @ 800-922-0204.
Note: GSM and UMTS-based global services work only with SIM card supplied by Verizon Wireless® or by another non U.S GSM or UMTS service provider. When you set your phone to use a GSM 900/1800 or UMTS 2100 network, you may be prompted to enter a subsidy code. To get this code, contact Verizon Wireless.
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If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
Regardless of where you buy your phone it will be locked to Verizon. Verizon will provide an unlock code to customers based on certain prerequisites. This code will allow you to use another carrier's sim cards while outside of the US, but you can not use any US based GSM providers.
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If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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If I buy the phone from the Motorola store, will it be unlocked for use with International SIMs?
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If it has the Droid 3 name (which means it's the Verizon version of the phone), the SIM slot will be locked regardless of where you buy it. Some versions released in other countries (like the XT860 4G in Canada) may or may not be SIM locked. That remains to be seen.
But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
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Potentially.
The only other way is to have the required files from Motorola to unlock the bands, which aren't publicly available. Team Black Hat evidently has what's needed to do that for the Droid 2 Global and the Droid Pro, but you have to send your phone into them along with $100 to get it done. Maybe there will be an option like that in the future for the Droid 3.
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I seriously hope so. I messed about with the Droid 3 at the Verizon store and I really liked it. I'd love to be able to use it (or Bell's version) on T-Mobile.
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But all those restrictions are software based, yeah?
According to GSM Arena, the Droid 3's hardware supports HSDPA on 3 of the four 3G frequencies, including the two that I think AT&T uses (850/1900), and one that I think T-Mobile uses (2100), and it supports 2G GSM on all four frequencies.
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked and we get custom roms, will that potentially remove the carrier restrictions for GSM networks??
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Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
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Yes, a non-Verizon rom can solve the problem. A lot of Chinese user bought Droid 3 from ebay and flash it to China-Telecom rom (major carrier in China) and get all bands unlocked, no GSM unlock code needed in that case.
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But what about unlocking the US based GSM carriers?
And what about the aosp roms?
Is the restriction in the rom, or in the radio file?
There's a CyanogenMod 7 alpha version being developed, and people are reporting that something in its build.prop gives them better gsm reception overseas. Would it also allow a US Droid 3 user to use a US GSM carrier, such as AT&T?
I've been doing a lot of research on this but I'm still coming up short on a few answers.
I'm considering purchasing a Droid 3 but here's my particulars:
My personal service is V-dub. Business service is AT&T. Assuming I unlock the Droid3 can I use the V-dub service while I'm stateside and leave the AT&T SIM on-board the device? If so, is it possible to switch between AT&T/VZW service via software?
When I'm traveling international would I be able to switch to the AT&T SIM service without racking up mad billz on the VZW side of the house?
ANyone with some experience on this would be appreciated. If I can't do all this with one device then I'm leaning to buy a Nexus S.
I wanna say you can because your phone allows you to switch between GSM/Global/CDMA.
I believe this can work with the XT860 model from canada, the US XT862 however, cannot move between US carriers, but can be used anywhere outside the US
At least, that's what I've gathered from lurking here for a while.
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xt860 is gsm only, xt862 wont let you use american gsm networks
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xt860 is gsm only, xt862 wont let you use american gsm networks
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Is it because it doesn't do 3G frequencies?
MrObvious said:
Is it because it doesn't do 3G frequencies?
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No, is done purposely.
MrObvious said:
Is it because it doesn't do 3G frequencies?
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From what I have read the US GSM carriers are blocked out from being used in the phone.
here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1284433.html
Enigmafied said:
From what I have read the US GSM carriers are blocked out from being used in the phone.
here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1284433.html
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According to a guy at this link Team Black Hat sells a *full* unlock code for the 3's which will allow it. This is unconfirmed but I'm Googling...
if i recall correctly, TBH offered a version of the D2G baseband firmware which they'd modified to run on any network, this cost you $100 and you had to mail it to them
i believe Cellzealot has stated that this method wont work on the D3
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if i recall correctly, TBH offered a version of the D2G baseband firmware which they'd modified to run on any network, this cost you $100 and you had to mail it to them
i believe Cellzealot has stated that this method wont work on the D3
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TBH released the band unlock to the public couple of months ago.It is now free. It only works on the oldest D2G radio firmware. Newer firmwares cannot be unlocked since Motorola moved the protection inside baseband which due to locked boot loader cannot be modified. This method will not work on D3 for the same reason.
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I just purchased an Unlocked Moto X on Ebay. It hasn't arrived yet, but the back of the box was in Spanish and it is shipping from Puerto Rico. I've been trying to determine exactly what I am getting here, but I'm having trouble. Hopefully you guys can help me answer these questions.
- From reading other threads it sounds like I'm getting a XT1058. Will this be hardware identical to the AT&T XT1058?
- If so, I'm guessing HSPA+ on AWS with T-Mobile will not work. is that correct?
- Have these models received the recent update that improves the camera?
- If not enabled, is there a way to enable AWS? Would flashing T-Mobile firmware work?
I have that model. Its from the GSM carrier "Claro". Yes it has the recent camera update. I have it unlocked and im currently using it on att with LTE.
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I had one
Same hardware as att and rogers.
Wont work on aws hspa.
As far as I know still haven't gotten update unless it happened this week. (This is part of why I sold mine to get a T-Mobile one )
You could unlock boot loader and flash the rogers or att image to fix that though
I am pretty sure you can't flash aws on it. I know some Samsung phones its possible but for Motorola the hardware is probably slightly different
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Hi all. If I purchase one of Moto X Sprint, ATT, Verizon
version, can I use it on our Europe network regarding
SIM lock?
Sorry I'm rookie about Moto X, I use so far other Moto Droid2 and Droid4 only.
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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New device, cheaper than the other, why.....?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SEALE...1010755429?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43c197bb65
Please help. I'm purchase Sprint Motorola Moto X and need to activate it and make sim unlock.
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Where do you order? And how much?
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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Ive heard the only way is to be a sprint customer for 90 days and ask customer service.
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Star Shadow, you got 4G working on it?
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Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
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So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
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yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
And how about 4G?
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sleepyguy007 said:
yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
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I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
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I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
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And do you have 4G network in Egypt? Does it work?
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
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I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
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Surely you just check the bands on the network your trying to use it on. Look up your networks bands.
I checked before I bought, 2100 is supported by the phone and I'm using 2100 without issue.
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Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
So essentially i can put the GSM sim card into a Verizon Moto X and it should work .If not are there any online unlock sites available?
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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First of all, thanks for answering
Then, don't you think that the developer edition (GSM) could be a good option? For what I heard, with that I should be only missing the 4G network, wich would be unavaible anyway, wichever brand I choose..
Or am I wrong?
The other plus il that I wouldn't lose the warranty in case of modding..!
Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
jgolf said:
Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
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No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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Thanks. Understood that your not confirming but reporting what you've observed. The reason why I would choose T-Mobile and use on AT&T is simply because I want the freedom and flexibility to move between different GSM carriers and their MVNOs just like I am able to do on my Nexus 4.
If the T-Mobile version works on a particular HSPA+ band that the Dev Ed does not, yet has all the other bands that the Dev Ed has, then that would make the T-Mobile phones a better and more flexible phone imo. People who need to root or unlock would feel differently since they have different priorities.
I really want to be able to use T-Mobile since they have the best monthly pricing (especially a family of four) and I love how they have shaken up the market, but T-Mobile indoor building penetration is so poor at my current residence that I really need to go with Straight Talk or Net10 with an AT&T sim, yet if I move or the coverage improves I would switch to T-Mobile.
Does T-Mobile have to giver you a code to get your phone to work on AT&T and its MVNO's?
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No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
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Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
I'm planning on ordering up a MotoX here shortly and have been wondering about the DE vs Tmo question too. After a LOT of google searches it seems they are the same phone with the Tmo version supporting extra bands. According to this article there is NO carrier branding or bloatware on the the Tmo version. The article also states that the Tmo Moto X comes sim unlocked with an unlockable bootloader via Motorola's unlock program. Given this, I cant understand why anyone would order the DE and not take advantage of the Motomaker customization.
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
As for T-Mobile USA vs Dev edition.. From what I know, they support the same bands and both are SIM Unlocked. While both allow you to unlock their boot loader, doing so on the T-Mobile USA device will void its warranty where as unlocking the boot loader on the Dev Edition does not. That is why some would order the Dev Edition rather than a 32gig T-Mobile version.
As for T-Mobile vs ATT versions...
Two relevant quotes from John Renaldi of Moto here -> https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi
"TMO version will not have all the same LTE banding as the AT&T version. HSPA bands fine though."
"While the TMO version does in fact have all the AT&T LTE bands (your AT&T SIM will work), the hardware itself does not contain all the same bands as the AT&T version. Our TMO version supports: LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 17 and the AT&T version supports LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 05; LTE Band 07; LTE Band 17."
later in that discussion, someone else says... "the T-mobile and Dev variants have the same LTE bands (B17/B4/B2), so they'll be equal. On AT&T (in the US), they'll both do just as well as the AT&T variant. Bands 5 and 7 aren't used by these operators in the US." So not having LTE Band 5 & 7 on the T-Mobile US X wont be a factor unless you are traveling to a non-USA country that uses Band 5 or 7 for LTE.
The T-Mobile can unlock the boot loader, where as the ATT variant can't.
Hello
I have almost the same question. I found an article to root the moto G and the moto X (http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2013...buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer) (sorry it's in spanish)...bla bla bla I found the same that I found here but when I read the comments someone logged as "el mostro cortes" said that he flashed the developer edition's GSM factory image to his motoX. That make me think if I can do the same.
I found the radio specs of my carrier here in Colombia:
TIGO
GSM: 1900MHz
UMTS/HSDPA: 1900MHz
After that I look the motoX DEV-E GSM radio specs and find:
Networks:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands:
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands:
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
With this info, can some help me and tell me if can i flash the motoX DEV-E GSM to my phone?
I search in wikipedia and I found that the motoX DEV-E GSM is a X1053 model, and my motoX is a X1058, it's still posible?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!!!:good:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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jgolf said:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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Thanks for clarifying that. 5 &7 are Just useless than in other words.
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10nisman94 said:
Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
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Yes you can tether, just like stock android.
jgolf said:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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I should add, from what I've gleaned from what people are reporting in this thread, is that the
1) T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X, have an HSPA+ band that the AT&T X does not.
2) Therefore, in the US, the T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are fully functional on AT&T's network.
3) But AT&T's X will be lacking some HSPA+ capabilities on T-Mobile's network.
Again, I'm not confirming or asserting any of this as fact, but only trying to summarize as best I can what we have been discussing.
aooga said:
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
Odelheim said:
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
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If you gain any further insight into this between now and Monday please do report back to this thread. I have zero knowledge one way or the other, but this is the first I've heard that there is any branding on T-Mobile X.
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
finalarcadia said:
I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
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This is great news. Thanks a lot mate.
What I'm wondering is why on earth Motorola would give me such informations then. Is it a secret that it comes unlocked? Nevertheless this is profe enough for me. Awesome.
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
aooga said:
Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
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Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
Odelheim said:
Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
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I just reread my post and it made no sense to me at all. (The info is still right, don't worry)
I don't know what I was doing when I wrote it. At least you understood it.