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Hello everybody this is my first post so if get something wrong forgive me.
1. Is there a way to unlock us carriers on stock jellybean.
2. I know the Droid 4 is capable of global gsm use where i live Puerto Rico there is a local gsm carrier Claro (clear in spanish) not available in the U.S. currently verizon's roaming partner. I would like to know if it is possible to make calls texts and internet.
Claro is mexican owned company which bought verizons stores and antennas thus removing verizon fully from Puerto Rico.
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axel2230 said:
Hello everybody this is my first post so if get something wrong forgive me.
1. Is there a way to unlock us carriers on stock jellybean.
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Currently no. See this thread to keep up to date on progress.
2. I know the Droid 4 is capable of global gsm use where i live Puerto Rico there is a local gsm carrier Claro (clear in spanish) not available in the U.S. currently verizon's roaming partner. I would like to know if it is possible to make calls texts and internet.
Claro is mexican owned company which bought verizons stores and antennas thus removing verizon fully from Puerto Rico.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I don't know the answer to this. As far as I know only the main US carriers, ATT, Sprint etc. are blocked as they are competitors of Verizon, and the phone is supposed to work on GSM globally, but who knows whether they considered Puerto Rico to be part of the USA for this purpose.
If you happen to acquire a Droid 4 and try it in Puerto Rico, please post the results on my thread as I'm maintaining a list of confirmed working carriers.
Actually I own a Droid 4 (I'm sure there is no one esle who owns a Droid 4 here in Puerto Rico) I'm willing to test it but i have some questions.
1. I currently don't know if my Droid 4 is global unlocked
( I tried a tmobile sim it recognizes it as tmobile in the apn. But obviously it won't make calls or texts.) Anyway to check if I'm unlocked.
2. I have a verizon sim I do not know if it works or if it was ever activated. Is there a way i could check. (Out of curiosity and a little off topic.)
My Droid 4 is currently rooted on stock jellybean
I will test it soon and will post results in this and your thread.
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It isn't unlocked, so far no unlocked Droid 4s are known to exist.
No idea on the Verizon SIM. I have no experience with Verizon as I'm in the UK.
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It isn't unlocked, so far no unlocked Droid 4s are known to exist.
No idea on the Verizon SIM. I have no experience with Verizon as I'm in the UK.
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Is there a necessary procedure for the droid 4 for global use or will it work if a put a sim from a compatible carrier.
So long as you are running ICS or JB, not GingerBread, then it will work.
There's mods and custom ROMs you can go for that make it a bit nicer but it isn't necessary.
I tried looking at Ebay, Kijiji, and Craigslist but I can't find it anywhere other than on the Motorola website which sells it for 600 USD and doesn't ship to Canada.
Can the XT1058 version be unlocked to work with AWS?
DonDizzurp said:
I tried looking at Ebay, Kijiji, and Craigslist but I can't find it anywhere other than on the Motorola website which sells it for 600 USD and doesn't ship to Canada.
Can the XT1058 version be unlocked to work with AWS?
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The XT1058 only supports LTE on the AWS band. It won't work with Wind or Mobilicity. Only the XT1058 is certified for sale in Canada so you'll need to import an XT1053 if you want one. As to where to get it from, well ebay, etc I suppose.
Now I'm stuck having to choose between:
the phone I always hoped someone would create
vs
the carrier that gives me everything for so little (Wind)
I hear ya, I'm on the Koodo SK plan so its pretty affordable. I'm still looking into flashing the XT1058 with the full XT1053 firmware. I've been told both that it will work and that it will brick my phone. If it does successfully flash I think its unlikely that wcdma on the AWS band will magically work but I'd sure like to verify for certain.
If you spend enough time looking I'd sure you'll find an XT1053 eventually.(its worth the wait!)
not too many people i'm guessing are buying the t-mobile edition for full cost or the DEV GSM edition which is more or less the same then selling on ebay.
your other route could be to buy a mexico nextel edition (which can't bootloader unlock it seems). some people on ebay are selling those and they are unlocked SIM, they are XT1053 though, but the updates would have to be whatever build that model uses.
i think they go for around $500
sleepyguy007 said:
not too many people i'm guessing are buying the t-mobile edition for full cost or the DEV GSM edition which is more or less the same then selling on ebay.
your other route could be to buy a mexico nextel edition (which can't bootloader unlock it seems). some people on ebay are selling those and they are unlocked SIM, they are XT1053 though, but the updates would have to be whatever build that model uses.
i think they go for around $500
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i have one xt 1053 white 16gb mexico nextel that i am using on tmobile, i am selling it on craigslist.
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DonDizzurp said:
I tried looking at Ebay, Kijiji, and Craigslist but I can't find it anywhere other than on the Motorola website which sells it for 600 USD and doesn't ship to Canada.
Can the XT1058 version be unlocked to work with AWS?
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i have one xt 1053 white 16gb mexico nextel that i am using on tmobile, i am selling it on craigslist.
Just a note , I have the Rogers 1058 and I can flash the T-Mobile touched Roms. You can not however flash the fxz firmware through rsdlite, chances are you'll have a very expensive but small glass cutting board, you could always sell it to rob ford for cutting and snorting his daily dose of cocaine
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flashallthetime said:
Just a note , I have the Rogers 1058 and I can flash the T-Mobile touched Roms. You can not however flash the fxz firmware through rsdlite, chances are you'll have a very expensive but small glass cutting board, you could always sell it to rob ford for cutting and snorting his daily dose of cocaine
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I've had someone tell me they flashed the .fxz file with rsdlite and the phone still worked. They put the retail flash(used for tmobile, XT1053) into XT1058 hardware. However there is no report on if it happened to enable wcdma on the AWS band. I'm not going to try it with my daily use Moto X however they are getting cheaper by the day on craigslist so I may buy one to experiment with in the near future.
I am looking at getting a Moto X XT1053 (T-Mobile, unlocked). Will this work with Rogers / Bell / Telus?
puleen said:
I am looking at getting a Moto X XT1053 (T-Mobile, unlocked). Will this work with Rogers / Bell / Telus?
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The XT1053 I bought through Motomaker works great for me on Koodo (aka Telus). Rogers and Bell also use LTE band 4, Rogers also uses band 17, so it should work on those networks as well. My recent speedtest results were: 5ms ping, 53Mbps down, 24Mbps up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
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Are there any differences between the Tmo and Dev Ed?
Will the Tmo work on AT&T's nework and get LTE?
If there is no difference I'd be tempted to go with Tmo's so I could motomaker mine.
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No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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There are many discussions and many answers to this question. The answer I saw the most was to get a T-Mobile version for use on T-Mobile. The reason is the T-Mobile version supports a particular band for HPSA+ that other versions don't support. If your not in an LTE area, you will fall back to EDGE if your phone does not support the HSPA band needed. I can't confirm, only passing on what I read. I bought the T-Mobile version.
It appears as if you intend to use it on AT&T so it might make no difference. Why can't you use Motomaker on AT&T? Have they discontinued it?
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Thanks. Understood that your not confirming but reporting what you've observed. The reason why I would choose T-Mobile and use on AT&T is simply because I want the freedom and flexibility to move between different GSM carriers and their MVNOs just like I am able to do on my Nexus 4.
If the T-Mobile version works on a particular HSPA+ band that the Dev Ed does not, yet has all the other bands that the Dev Ed has, then that would make the T-Mobile phones a better and more flexible phone imo. People who need to root or unlock would feel differently since they have different priorities.
I really want to be able to use T-Mobile since they have the best monthly pricing (especially a family of four) and I love how they have shaken up the market, but T-Mobile indoor building penetration is so poor at my current residence that I really need to go with Straight Talk or Net10 with an AT&T sim, yet if I move or the coverage improves I would switch to T-Mobile.
Does T-Mobile have to giver you a code to get your phone to work on AT&T and its MVNO's?
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No difference, same model. I'm using t-mobile motomaker on at&t with LTE just fine. Just don't let them change the IMEI on their system if you get a new sim card. Tell them to leave whatever was on there, or you'll get a plan without LTE. This applies to dev edition as well.
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Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
I'm planning on ordering up a MotoX here shortly and have been wondering about the DE vs Tmo question too. After a LOT of google searches it seems they are the same phone with the Tmo version supporting extra bands. According to this article there is NO carrier branding or bloatware on the the Tmo version. The article also states that the Tmo Moto X comes sim unlocked with an unlockable bootloader via Motorola's unlock program. Given this, I cant understand why anyone would order the DE and not take advantage of the Motomaker customization.
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
As for T-Mobile USA vs Dev edition.. From what I know, they support the same bands and both are SIM Unlocked. While both allow you to unlock their boot loader, doing so on the T-Mobile USA device will void its warranty where as unlocking the boot loader on the Dev Edition does not. That is why some would order the Dev Edition rather than a 32gig T-Mobile version.
As for T-Mobile vs ATT versions...
Two relevant quotes from John Renaldi of Moto here -> https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi
"TMO version will not have all the same LTE banding as the AT&T version. HSPA bands fine though."
"While the TMO version does in fact have all the AT&T LTE bands (your AT&T SIM will work), the hardware itself does not contain all the same bands as the AT&T version. Our TMO version supports: LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 17 and the AT&T version supports LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 05; LTE Band 07; LTE Band 17."
later in that discussion, someone else says... "the T-mobile and Dev variants have the same LTE bands (B17/B4/B2), so they'll be equal. On AT&T (in the US), they'll both do just as well as the AT&T variant. Bands 5 and 7 aren't used by these operators in the US." So not having LTE Band 5 & 7 on the T-Mobile US X wont be a factor unless you are traveling to a non-USA country that uses Band 5 or 7 for LTE.
The T-Mobile can unlock the boot loader, where as the ATT variant can't.
Hello
I have almost the same question. I found an article to root the moto G and the moto X (http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2013...buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer) (sorry it's in spanish)...bla bla bla I found the same that I found here but when I read the comments someone logged as "el mostro cortes" said that he flashed the developer edition's GSM factory image to his motoX. That make me think if I can do the same.
I found the radio specs of my carrier here in Colombia:
TIGO
GSM: 1900MHz
UMTS/HSDPA: 1900MHz
After that I look the motoX DEV-E GSM radio specs and find:
Networks:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands:
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands:
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
With this info, can some help me and tell me if can i flash the motoX DEV-E GSM to my phone?
I search in wikipedia and I found that the motoX DEV-E GSM is a X1053 model, and my motoX is a X1058, it's still posible?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!!!:good:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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Thanks for clarifying that. 5 &7 are Just useless than in other words.
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10nisman94 said:
Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
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Yes you can tether, just like stock android.
jgolf said:
It can make your head spin, but from the thread it appears T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are the same, but AT&T X has them beat with LTE Bands 5 & 7, but that's moot in US since 5 & 7 are used outside US.
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I should add, from what I've gleaned from what people are reporting in this thread, is that the
1) T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X, have an HSPA+ band that the AT&T X does not.
2) Therefore, in the US, the T-Mobile X and Dev Ed X are fully functional on AT&T's network.
3) But AT&T's X will be lacking some HSPA+ capabilities on T-Mobile's network.
Again, I'm not confirming or asserting any of this as fact, but only trying to summarize as best I can what we have been discussing.
aooga said:
There is NO difference at all. Same bands, same internals, same everything. The DE is more expensive because it's the 32GB model. The tmo one IS sim unlocked (some people don't believe that), and has an unlockable bootloader. Doesn't have a carrier logo stamped on the back either.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
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If you gain any further insight into this between now and Monday please do report back to this thread. I have zero knowledge one way or the other, but this is the first I've heard that there is any branding on T-Mobile X.
Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
finalarcadia said:
I bought a t-mobile motomaker moto x. Mine arrived the 21st. For a FACT it is unbranded and sim-unlocked. Using on AT&T. The phone has nothing to do with T-mobile other than it came with a T-mobile sim card.
edit: as you can see the phone has no branding.
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This is great news. Thanks a lot mate.
What I'm wondering is why on earth Motorola would give me such informations then. Is it a secret that it comes unlocked? Nevertheless this is profe enough for me. Awesome.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
I am going to buy a Moto X at Mondays sale, but haven't figured out if I should just go with the dev version, or try the t-mobile version, which may or may not be sim-locked.
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Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
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Yes. I'm sure. As another use posted above me, the device has NO tmobile logos, and is Sim UNLOCKED. I've put an ATT sim inside and it works fine. Moto chat is useless, they don't know anything about their own products. Get the motomaker tmobile version unless you don't care about colors. Then get the dev edition because unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on that one.
Tmobile doesn't really sell this phone, moto does. Tmobile didn't touch it at all, it's the developer edition with 16gb of storage and without the "Developer Edition" engraving.
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Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
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Awesome mate. You saved the day! Thanks a lot.
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I just reread my post and it made no sense to me at all. (The info is still right, don't worry)
I don't know what I was doing when I wrote it. At least you understood it.
Hey all, looking to purchase a Moto X and I'm trying to figure out what variant would work on Bell Mobility in Canada as it's not entirely clear. If someone could help me out that'd be great! Thanks
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Compare the bands/frequencies that Bell Mobility uses to the bands/frequencies supported by the different Moto X variants?
You'd want the XT1058 model (aka the AT&T Moto X). Only that model has LTE band 7 (2600MHz), which is widely used in Europe and Asia- it's also the model sold by Rogers Canada.
Keep in mind that if you're planning to root it you should get the Developer Edition. (But then you won't get LTE support outside America).
Bottom line:
AT&T model for international LTE support (XT1058)
Developer Edition for easy rooting (ie. unlockable bootloader) (XT1053)
The easiest to get and best one for Bell is the Rogers/Fido version. It comes sim locked but it is 8 dollars or less to unlock it. They are pretty easy to come across on craigslist these days.
You could also import one from the US if you wanted, if that is the case then I'd get the tmobile version. You would lose access to band 7 LTE though but you'd be able to get a custom colored version and 32gb if you need it.
edit - to respond to what KaiHD said above my post
Run away from the AT&T version, the Rogers version is the same hardware but has an unlockable bootloader and no bloatware. The Rogers version is also very easy to sim unlock.
Also, I see you're in BC, if its the lower mainland you can pickup an as new Moto X for $300.00 Cdn
Just for those wondering - Bell Mobility is a Canadian cell provider with HSPA and LTE.
Unfortunately people in my area are asking unreasonable prices for Rogers/Fido Moto Xs (500-600) and I have the opportunity to grab an AT&T variant for under 300. Thanks to both of your for the info, helped a lot.
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Hi,
Please forgive this basic question but hopefully somebody can help me out. I want to buy a moto x 2013 and being located in the UK need a XT1052. I can't seem to find one anywhere however have found a few XT1058s on ebay.
I understand that it is a slightly different model that is meant for the AT&T network but I was wondering what consequences would be of using this phone in the UK. I appreciate that the 4g LTE bands are different, with the XT1058 only having one band (7) that is used in the UK, but would I miss out on anything else? Would I get software/firmware updates or not ie Lollipop upgrade etc? Would I miss out on anything else that might be important?
Any help appreciated
Thanks
I have one of these in Sweden, which works fine on 4G. No problems with updates as yet (I had a verizon xt926 which also worked here). If you are going to buy on eBay make sure you tell them not to upgrade it to 4.4.4 before they ship - I didn't, and am now stuck with an unrootable phone
@dextervelo if you are ok with the potential band differences for LTE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and are still interested in purchasing an XT1058 for use in Europe, consider the following...
The XT1058 for ATT is SIM Locked (aka Carrier locked) and bootloader locked out of the box.
The ATT XT1058 can be SIM unlocked (carrier unlocked) by purchasing a code from one of the many stores off the internet
The ATT XT1058 currently can not be bootloader unlocked unless it has never been upgraded to 4.4.4, in which case you could use Sunshine
An XT1058 for Rogers Canada can be SIM unlocked (again you might need to purchase code from online store) and Bootloader unlocked (code available for FREE from Moto's web site, and can be used no matter what ROM is on your phone)
If you don't get an OTA, as long as the ZIP file is posted, you can still side load an OTA
be careful where you buy your XT1058 from. I've seen a few with CID: 0xDEAD and other improper values which can cause issues (one such thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-wont-update-to-kitkat-t3015318 )
NOTE: bootloader unlocking is only needed IF you want to either root, or run a non-Moto rom or recovery.
Thanks guys, good info to know.
The phone would be coming from Hong Kong. The price is pretty good which makes me wonder if I'm going to run into problems as detailed in the linked threads. The band differences are no big problem, especially if 4g is working in Sweden as they have the similar bands for their 4g as we do.
@EuanG, do you have any reason to think you won't get an OTA lollipop update or does it not bother you?
It feels a bit too much of a gamble, i might just wait for a good condition 2nd hand one to show up or am I worrying too much?
Mine was from Hong Kong, at a price worth taking the risk. CID looks ok and the phone does have an ATT rom, but on the back it is branded - Anatel -, hopefully it will upgrade to Lollipop. At the current prices on eBay I would be tempted to buy an xt1060 developer version, ok no 4G but probably a safer bet than risking getting a wierd xt1058
I use an XT1058 ATT in Romania.Although my status bar indicates 4G,in setting/status my mobile network indicates HSPA+.
Nicolae-Daniel said:
I use an XT1058 ATT in Romania.Although my status bar indicates 4G,in setting/status my mobile network indicates HSPA+.
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That is likely due to the way the USA does things...
2/2.5G = GPRS/EDGE
3G = UMTS/HSPA
4G = HSPA+/HSPA
4G LTE = LTE
So if yours shows 4G for HSPA+ that is normal.