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This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
peter7 said:
This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
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Nope, not any. Sorry, the Kaiser is crippled in this respect too (unlike, strangely, the Athena - the only current HTC PPC model to allow for call recording.)
peter7 said:
This issues has been discussed several times but is there in the meantime a real solution to record also the voice of the caller without using the free speaker ?
Thanks for your help
myrin
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i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
winwiz said:
i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
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It doesn't. Read my related articles - in there, I've explained it's not REAL recording you're hearing. For example, you won't hear the other party at all if you use any kind of a headset or use call recording in a noisy environment.
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i use Vito Audio notes - works fine on my kaiser????
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Doesn't work on my Vario III, only when the speaker phone is on and then it causes a lag of a few seconds. Menneisyys is right, I tried in down the pub without the speaker phone on the other night and when I played back the conversation all I heard was me
Disappointing...
If call recording is a must then you have four options:
1. Use call recording software, always in speakerphone mode. Possible source of embarrassment when using in public areas.
2. HTC Advantage X7500 (Athena). Bulky, heavy and very expensive! Also possible source of embarrassment due to ugly device
3. Buy a Gigabyte WM phone. Most of these support proper call recording of both parties. (Also sold under other names. One example is I-Teq.)
4. Any Nokia Symbian S60 device. Wide selection of devices in a wide price range.
abubasim said:
If call recording is a must then you have four options:
1. Use call recording software, always in speakerphone mode. Possible source of embarrassment when using in public areas.
2. HTC Advantage X7500 (Athena). Bulky, heavy and very expensive! Also possible source of embarrassment due to ugly device
3. Buy a Gigabyte WM phone. Most of these support proper call recording of both parties. (Also sold under other names. One example is I-Teq.)
4. Any Nokia Symbian S60 device. Wide selection of devices in a wide price range.
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5. Some (NOT all! See my articles for a complete list) ASUS and O2 XDA PPC models
6. HTC Oxygen (if you don't mind it being being a low-end Smartphone)
7. i-mate SP5 or Qtek 8310/8300 or SPV-C600
That's why i still use them next to my kaiser. I-mate for phone calls with pmrecorder and internet on my kaiser thru BT dun.
Only problem, no 3G and no BT Dun if you upgrade the smartphone to WM6.
A friend of mime is working on a reg tweak that will enable recording in-coming calls without having the speakers on. He claims that a two step procedure must take place; first is to funnel the call to the head set connection then carry it over to the recorder input. The caller will though hear a click, he said. but so far he was able to record only the caller and not the receiver of the call. Kind like the opposite of what happens now. He might come up with the cab file by next week.
The Universal does it too, on the very slight possibility that anyone cares!
Its this Damn modern stuff!! (BT)
I can remember when I were a lad and the stream only came on T' cable and we had a splitter that blead it to a pocket memo!
No, seriously, Menneisyys is correct. When you route call audio via BT then (at this time!) you can not intercept the incomimg audio for recording.
Please be patient, someone (on here or commercially) will do it.
Don't worry, in a couple of years when we have quad processors in our earbud connected sunglasses with integral viewscreen, we will be laughing at all our old worries. Just think, would you have thought ten tears ago you could have a unit the size of a cigarette packet that did all this? (HTC TyTynII and forget the US hybrids!)
Then you will only have to worry if the colour matches yours eyes!!
asfoor - is your friend ready with the application ?
thanks
myrin
Hi there,
I am currently using the Nokia N95 and am considering to switch to Touch Diamond, however I am very fond of the VOIP/SIP functionality on N95, is Does the Touch Diamond also support proper VOIP through SIP?
I don't think there's a built in SIP client, but there are a few third party ones for windows mobile. The main problem usually is that each manufacturer handles the 'ear' speaker differently, and without modifying the source code the sound comes out of the main speaker, unless you use a handsfree.
Haha...Or you could try modifying the wiring.
use SJPhone for Pocket PC
also try the microsoft SIP client: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VoIP_on_Windows_Mobile_6
Has anyone tried the microsoft VOIP client?? If so any news on which speaker is used?? I have a hermes which works perfectly with the internet calling client but the Kaiser and Polaris uses the external speaker and it´s a bit of a pain.
christonge said:
Has anyone tried the microsoft VOIP client?? If so any news on which speaker is used?? I have a hermes which works perfectly with the internet calling client but the Kaiser and Polaris uses the external speaker and it´s a bit of a pain.
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Ditto. I would also love to know the answer. This is the biggest single drawback of the TyTN II
ohnophone said:
Ditto. I would also love to know the answer. This is the biggest single drawback of the TyTN II
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This is due to the fact that the VoIP can only interact with the system sound platform, not the radio/phone sound platform.
Headsets will work fine, as the ear piece handles both system sound and radio/phone sound.
Are any other SIP clients different?
Usually its platform/vendor specific how they handle the ear speaker. I remember way back CiceroPhone used to be one (comercial) app that was able to use the ear speaker.
Has anyone tried installing the microsoft integrated VOIP yet to see which speaker is used??
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Has anyone tried installing the microsoft integrated VOIP yet to see which speaker is used??
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Yes, it uses the external.
Is the GPS still working after installing VoIP ?
There is a thread that reports problems and a need for hard reset after VoIP installation.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402850&page=2)
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Yes, it uses the external.
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When I tried using the "destro0_VOIP_WM61" file to enable VOIP, sound was received through the internal speaker (ie...the normal speaker that you use when you talk on the phone). The only problem was that the volume level was low.
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Is the GPS still working after installing VoIP ?
There is a thread that reports problems and a need for hard reset after VoIP installation.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402850&page=2)
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Installing the above file disrupted the GPS. It could not be recognized by any software, including the QuickGPS app. I had to hard-reset to get everything back in order.
DT
daren1 said:
When I tried using the "destro0_VOIP_WM61" file to enable VOIP, sound was received through the internal speaker (ie...the normal speaker that you use when you talk on the phone). The only problem was that the volume level was low.
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Are you sure about this? It's just that, from everything I know, this is impossible from a hardware point of view.
On the Diamond, the ext. speaker is VERY close to the internal speaker. Perhaps you were just getting some bleed-through?
Hi,
you could use fring (see fring.com). Works fine for SIP and offers Skype, too (whereas the original skype client did not work on my Diamond).
Cheers,
Kleinenbroicher
sip voip solved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682
working
works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 . d
scootax said:
Hi there,
I am currently using the Nokia N95 and am considering to switch to Touch Diamond, however I am very fond of the VOIP/SIP functionality on N95, is Does the Touch Diamond also support proper VOIP through SIP?
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Try Fring, I use it a lot. It's free and also supports Skype, msn, gmail, ....
Regards.
For the best voip experience I have had so far try Agephone mobile 2.9
I use it a lot and I can confirm that it works well with betamax voip providers.
Fring is good for chating, but the voice quality is not the best.
Good luck.
Hello everyone,
can not say that it is like "to live or not to live" but still important, and i belie not only for me.
I have tried a lot of different call recording software for WM.
The problem is that during call recoding it just records the microphone, but not the dynamic.
It just works like simple Voice recorder.
Most advanced I think was the tool from Resco. It has even the input device list in which I've chosen "Cellular Line" but still... no result.
I even have few times changed the firmware
I'm interested:
1) If it's only in my phone and you did not experienced such problem on yours
2) You guys can do the miracle ???
genatsvale said:
Hello everyone,
can not say that it is like "to live or not to live" but still important, and i belie not only for me.
I have tried a lot of different call recording software for WM.
The problem is that during call recoding it just records the microphone, but not the dynamic.
It just works like simple Voice recorder.
Most advanced I think was the tool from Resco. It has even the input device list in which I've chosen "Cellular Line" but still... no result.
I even have few times changed the firmware
I'm interested:
1) If it's only in my phone and you did not experienced such problem on yours
2) You guys can do the miracle ???
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anyone ?
I can't do the ICR as well.
However, many of the people in the forum said they can...
I am wondering how as well.
I think this is not software, this is hardware problem. Something with laws reasons. Anyway, no program to able to write sound from hardware speaker.
Another way to use that programs - try to use recording with BT hendsfree.
AlexDem said:
I think this is not software, this is hardware problem. Something with laws reasons. Anyway, no program to able to write sound from hardware speaker.
Another way to use that programs - try to use recording with BT hendsfree.
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Thanks, but obviously there are people claiming that they can do it with their X1s. Therefore we are asking why and how.
Rockman27 said:
Thanks, but obviously there are people claiming that they can do it with their X1s. Therefore we are asking why and how.
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Hmmm... I'm not sure, but seems to me they mean recording from BT. Try to use VITO AudioNotes, it works on my Jamin and LG KS20, but only via BT
You tried this?
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3240.html
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You tried this?
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3240.html
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The speakerphone trick is not possible while you are using it outdoors, which is unfavourable for most of the time
Thanks anyway
Have you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808&page=6
For some reason, mine was there with the phone. During the call - press menu then select note. Another window appear with tools for record. I tried mine and it works. The conversation save under my document>calls... Perfect
Well
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For some reason, mine was there with the phone. During the call - press menu then select note. Another window appear with tools for record. I tried mine and it works. The conversation save under my document>calls... Perfect
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I just tried your method, it seems that it actually records passively via the vibrations from the speaker to the mic, or via the actual output from the speaker. Recording in a silent environment I can barely hear the person on the other end even at max volume.
I guess this option isn't really a working solution.
At this point it does make me think that there are hardware differences between X1s we have...
I am using X1i made in Y09W03, which I can't get the ICR to work...
Can those who make ICR work state their model and manufacture date as well?
Thanks
For a start, there may be some confusion here, some are using simply the notes application which can be accessed by menu (right softkey) during call and then record a sound in new note. Other it seems are using a recording software.
That being it, it is so unlikely, that it is nearing impossible that there would be hardware differences in the phone causing such significant difference in functionality. They have a specification to keep.
That being said, the cases describedas working I would put down to a difference in opinion on what "working" is considered to mean exactly.
P.S. X1i UK Y08W52
How about BTHF?
I heard some people had claimed that they can record both streams through BTHF... ark... things getting confusing: but I just want ICR on my X1, for the best I just pick up the phone to record all the in call voices, or using the HF comes with X1, or the worst BTHF (which I dont have one right now).
Just to keep you updated:
BTHF - No Good.
In Mobile01, some users claimed that if you use plastic "jelly" type protection case, it will help you divert the other parties' voices from the earpiece to the microphone, which in case help the ICR.
I am looking into issues and possibilities from the threads in Touch HD to make ICR work with Xperia X1.
I just freakingly hate it when people make false claims. That in any other way doesn't help but rather contribute to confusions.
Firstly, you can't even say that it records voice calls simply because the extreme silenced environment enables the mic to hear the whispers coming from the earpiece of the phone. Or saying that you just have to turn on the speaker phone while on record.
That definitely isn't a way a developer would do to claim anything about recording voice calls.
I'm sure you guys have other phones rather than PPCs say later nokias and later SEs perhaps. Whenever someone is calling you, you can simply press softkey and press record, and it will record the conversation and "stop recording" whoever hangs up first which doesn't happen to notes-recording.
Reviewing the recorded message is simply just as clear as having two people on phone patch just like our President's phone patch scam.
Dude, by far this thing DOESN'T record voice calls as I have tried to search. These claims are just workarounds. And If this do ever record voice calls, then you wouldn't even have to search the whole damn features finding where the record button is. Simply put.
>>MrLeche
Thanks for your comments, but the fact is that the recent Touch HD movements have granted us some hopes. People in Taiwanese forums are making use of the patch to apply on various of HTC phones and got positive results - therefore this has given some people, at least the stupid me, to do some further testing and research before closing the issue prematurely.
Did everyone just give up or did someone find the "cure" and I missed it?
I have tried everything possible but have not been able.
Just out of curiosity is this possible:
I have seen a program that diverts the sound from the speakerphone to the earpiece for use with skype. Could a virtual device be created to emulate a speaker, have sound diverted to the virtual device then to the real earpiece or speakerphone? This would allow the virtual device to send the sound from the other party to the recorder and hence record both sides of the conversation.
Maybe the above makes no sense but just wondering.
If anyone has been able to record both sides of the conversation at reasonable volume levels on an X1, I am interested in finding out how.
Gabo_calderon
Download Resco Explorer
Change the amplify level to your preferred settings
During phone call, make sure speakerphone is on
It works wonderfully.
poetryrocksalot said:
Download Resco Explorer
Change the amplify level to your preferred settings
During phone call, make sure speakerphone is on
It works wonderfully.
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Thanks but unfortunately that is not an option for me. I would like to record all calls and the speakerphone option is just too awkward for normal phone use.
Gabo_calderon
Anybody try using Csipsimple with a bluetooth headset on the Moto X Kitkat Stock rom?
I tried it, and it started causing my handset speakers to crackle and emit some sort of digital noise. Csipsimple force closed.
When I tried it without the bluetooth headset connected, it force closed.
Even after I closed the app the phone would crackle randomly. So I rebooted it.
It was strange - I've had no problems using CsipSimple with my Galaxy. I've never seen these types of problems before.
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Anybody try using Csipsimple with a bluetooth headset on the Moto X Kitkat Stock rom?
I tried it, and it started causing my handset speakers to crackle and emit some sort of digital noise. Csipsimple force closed.
When I tried it without the bluetooth headset connected, it force closed.
Even after I closed the app the phone would crackle randomly. So I rebooted it.
It was strange - I've had no problems using CsipSimple with my Galaxy. I've never seen these types of problems before.
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I have ATT's XT1058 and use Csipsimple with bluetooth occasionally. I have motorola's H17 headset and I didn't experience any issues. As you may know the Csipsimple bluetooth auto switch is in experimental phase and I haven't tried it yet. When i call I switch the call to bluetuoth manually. My advice is try with different headset and check your Csipsimple settings. find out which codecs are supported from your voip provider. According to my experience Csipsimple works well with aLaw and uLaw and maybe with G.729 (which must be bought separatelly).
Other cedecs are more or less useless and i don't use themat all. I also don't use different codecs for WIFI and mobile because it is pointless (you can't find special more adapted codecs for mobile). Therefore I have only aLaw and uLaw enabled and aLaw set as primary in Europe, the ulaw in America.
I don't use STUN (there is no need to use it and it cause additional lag) or any other functionallity which I don't understand precisely and I'm not sure what is its purpose.
Check your settings and replace the bluetooth, maybe install Csipsimple once again. I hope that you'll solve your problem.
Thanks, it's good to know other users aren't experiencing the same problems. I'll take a closer look at the settings. I did transfer my settings over from my Samsung using the built in json file backup so I wonder if that flow isn't working so well
I picked up a Lumia 930 over the weekend and so far I'm loving device, except for 1 small issue. I'm not getting any voice guidance at all in Here Drive. I get the speeding warning tone just fine, but no voice guidance at all from either the device or over my car's BT connection.
Everything else comes over the BT connection fine... Cortana's voice, music, phone calls... Just no voice guidance...
Anyone come across that at all?
FloatingFatMan said:
I picked up a Lumia 930 over the weekend and so far I'm loving device, except for 1 small issue. I'm not getting any voice guidance at all in Here Drive. I get the speeding warning tone just fine, but no voice guidance at all from either the device or over my car's BT connection.
Everything else comes over the BT connection fine... Cortana's voice, music, phone calls... Just no voice guidance...
Anyone come across that at all?
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Yes, having the same problem. I have an unlocked Lumia 930 bought in Singapore
Did you install a voice?
Yes, of course I installed a voice... Tried both recorded and synthesized. Nada.
FloatingFatMan said:
I picked up a Lumia 930 over the weekend and so far I'm loving device, except for 1 small issue. I'm not getting any voice guidance at all in Here Drive. I get the speeding warning tone just fine, but no voice guidance at all from either the device or over my car's BT connection.
Everything else comes over the BT connection fine... Cortana's voice, music, phone calls... Just no voice guidance...
Anyone come across that at all?
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Did you actually downloaded any voice guidance in settings, as by default it's set to "none" , though on first start the program asks to download voice an maps, maybe you omitted this step ?
Yes, as I just said above you. Of course I downloaded the voice, both UK English voices, in fact. I'm not a dummy.
I can get voice guidance from other apps, just not Here Drive, which is annoying.
There's also another issue, which is WP's fault and bloody annoying. No control over the individual BT profiles, so I can't shut off the regular BT Audio profile (I don't want voice guidance or music to cut off my car stereo, just phone calls). It's the one big thing about WP that annoys the hell out of me.
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Yes, as I just said above you. Of course I downloaded the voice, both UK English voices, in fact. I'm not a dummy.
I can get voice guidance from other apps, just not Here Drive, which is annoying.
There's also another issue, which is WP's fault and bloody annoying. No control over the individual BT profiles, so I can't shut off the regular BT Audio profile (I don't want voice guidance or music to cut off my car stereo, just phone calls). It's the one big thing about WP that annoys the hell out of me.
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Have you tried downloading other than UK voices and see if it's the same ?
Yes, makes no difference. There's no voice guidance. It's not a corrupt voice causing the issue, it's something else.
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Yes, makes no difference. There's no voice guidance. It's not a corrupt voice causing the issue, it's something else.
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So to be sure i got your point, voice isn't working at all, i mean not even when not connected to car's bluetooth ?
VSparxx said:
So to be sure i got your point, voice isn't working at all, i mean not even when not connected to car's bluetooth ?
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Correct. With or without bluetooth, there's NO voice guidance whatsoever from Here Drive.
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Correct. With or without bluetooth, there's NO voice guidance whatsoever from Here Drive.
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If i recall corectly ( as at the moment i can't test) there is a Driving Mode in the phone's settings, and you need to turn it ON .
Also you may want to take a look HERE for some more useful information on Here navigation features.
VSparxx said:
If i recall corectly ( as at the moment i can't test) there is a Driving Mode in the phone's settings, and you need to turn it ON .
Also you may want to take a look HERE for some more useful information on Here navigation features.
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Ah HA!! Thank you for that link! Looks like it identifies the issue. I'd only tested it on my drive to/from work, and apparently, it doesn't use voice guidance for My Commute routes. I shall test that out next time I'm in the car.
It would have been nice if there was somewhere on the bleedin' phone that -told- you that, though!
Oh well, at least that's answered... Now, if anyone can tell me how I can control the BT profiles, I'll be completely happy!
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Now, if anyone can tell me how I can control the BT profiles, I'll be completely happy!
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I think Car Mode has you covered here, at least partially ))
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I think Car Mode has you covered here, at least partially ))
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Nope, there's no capability to disable specific profiles for specific devices. Android's been able to do this for years, but not WP, it seems.
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Nope, there's no capability to disable specific profiles for specific devices. Android's been able to do this for years, but not WP, it seems.
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Indeed...for now it's impossible to set different profiles for different devices, maybe in a future update, as of lately Microsoft has been pushing updates at a really fast pace.