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Can Milestone charger be used for OB?

I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks

Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!

Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?

BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger

Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!

Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage

mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?

Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!

mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?

BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.

Just for be able to post new thread. Sorry.

Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.

My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.

roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply

Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.

Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!

BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.

Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...

Huexxx said:
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....

Charging Nexus 7 taking over 5 hours

Charging my Nexus 7 is taking over 5 hours via USB.
How long does it take for everyone else, and if this is broken, what is the process to get it replaced ?
Also will Google replace the battery/hardware, if i've changed my ROM ?
Cheers

What kind of usb? wall charger, usb 2 on computer, usb3 on computer?

dazdaz said:
Charging my Nexus 7 is taking over 5 hours via USB.
How long does it take for everyone else, and if this is broken, what is the process to get it replaced ?
Also will Google replace the battery/hardware, if i've changed my ROM ?
Cheers
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I won't charge mine via the USB port..takes too long. Top off, is ok. Complete charge...no way. The N7 has a big battery, so I use the AC charger. 5 hours via USB (dead battery ???) doesn't sound too long to me. Most USB devices only charge at some low rate...like 500 milliamps. You should be using, at least, twice that.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Obviously, Google/ACER have some improvements to make.

Troute said:
What kind of usb? wall charger, usb 2 on computer, usb3 on computer?
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I am charging using a usb 2 cable via a laptop.
Which begs the next question, is charging faster, with any of the above ?

You will get 3 times the current from the stock charger/cable than from a computer's USB port.

Solutions Etcetera said:
You will get 3 times the current from the stock charger/cable than from a computer's USB port.
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Correct. Laptop ports are around 0.5 amps, the stock wall charger is 2 amps

Of course it will charge slow over USB. Plug it into a wall if you can.

dazdaz said:
Thanks for the feedback.
Obviously, Google/ACER have some improvements to make.
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Not really its just standard USB charge rates they don't charge as quick as originally are only need a little bit of power for flash drives and so forth. Nothing will charge quick via USB.
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Charging through USB is better on the battery.
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dazdaz said:
I am charging using a usb 2 cable via a laptop.
Which begs the next question, is charging faster, with any of the above ?
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If you look at your Asus supplied Nexus charger you'll see that it's rated at 2A the N7 will happily draw all of that to charge. A pc or laptop usb2 port can supply a maximum of 500mA, that's only a quarter of what the N7 needs to charge at decent rate and you can damage the usb port by putting too high a load on it. My advice is to charge your N7 via the mains charger and forget trying to use the usb port, get a second charger or a portable battery pack if you need to charge while away from home (see the thread on battery packs in this forum for details)
For reference a usb3 port can output 1A if it's set up to do it.

According to Tom's hardware you are still quick. Their graph says 0-100% on usb, screen off 10 hours.

External charger with USB ?

Hi
I wish to know if i plug this charger in my pc with an usb cable, could it charge an external battery or the usb is only for charge the phone when it's on the wall charge ? I don't want to put it in the wall. I wanna charge my battery in plug to usb pc.
Is it possible ?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360511670238&index=12&nav=SEARCH&nid=57241944312
Thanks!

ppn7 said:
Hi
I wish to know if i plug this charger in my pc with an usb cable, could it charge an external battery or the usb is only for charge the phone when it's on the wall charge ? I don't want to put it in the wall. I wanna charge my battery in plug to usb pc.
Is it possible ?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360511670238&index=12&nav=SEARCH&nid=57241944312
Thanks!
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Sorry, I didn't quite understand the question, but from the link you provided - that's a wall charger where you can either plugin a battery directly or attach USB cable to connect your phone for charging.
I would not recommend using usb ports from your PC or laptop because they typically output very low current, close to 350 mA and it will take you a VERY LONG time to charge a phone or external battery, etc.

Hi.
I would like to find some thing to charge my anker 3100mah and my stock samsung battery with usb port from my PC, not with wall charge even if it take long time because i will put it on the night or maybe all the day (about 8 or 10h)
I will use one while the other will be in charge on the usb port

ppn7 said:
Hi.
I would like to find some thing to charge my anker 3100mah and my stock samsung battery with usb port from my PC, not with wall charge even if it take long time because i will put it on the night or maybe all the day (about 8 or 10h)
I will use one while the other will be in charge on the usb port
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oh, I see. You can use one of the chargers from my other review: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249269 or use this charger: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Desktop...25687?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item564ff1abd7
I see now that you want it to be plugged into your PC rather than wall. So you need DC charger, not AC charger. Those 2 above will do what you are looking for.

Thank you very much !

ppn7 said:
Hi.
I would like to find some thing to charge my anker 3100mah and my stock samsung battery with usb port from my PC, not with wall charge even if it take long time because i will put it on the night or maybe all the day (about 8 or 10h)
I will use one while the other will be in charge on the usb port
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This has a 700mAh wall charger. But does have an USB cable. Will charge much slower on the low amps of computer USB ports. Does come with battery.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-H1J9VMAGSTA

I don't understand why you don't want to plug it in the wall?
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LittleRedDot said:
I don't understand why you don't want to plug it in the wall?
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It's my bed room. I prefer put in my PC for some reason, position etc..

You sacrificing many many mA for position? Why not just buy a longer cord for the wall charger?
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LittleRedDot said:
You sacrificing many many mA for position? Why not just buy a longer cord for the wall charger?
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No worry like i said before, i just put in charge all the night or all the day in order to switch every day or night. It may take 8 or 10h, i don't really care because i switch with the other battery which can hold the day while the other is in charge.
And i don't want to overcharge by wall charge, the less mA there are, the less i damage the battery with long charge no ?

You are being just so silly. Just use a longer cord. That will solve the problem. Don't be like one of those crazy ladies that as to have it this or that way for some nonsense reasons, like home fashion, that is just the way it was setup, the cluttered look from the cord would drive me crazy, or something else like that.
There is circuitry that protects the batteries from overcharging. So don't worry about overcharging the batteries.
In fact the more that you keep the batteries charged the longer the batteries will last. The batteries lifespan is about the amount of full charge cycles. Say the battery is still 75% charged then you start charging to 100% (that is 25% total charging). That is not a full charge cycle. That is only 25% of a full charge cycle. Say the next time the battery shows only 25% charged this time. Then you charged again to 100% (that is 75% total charging). 25+75=100 The total of the two charges equal to 1 full charge cycle. As you see, if you keep the batteries charged then the batteries will lasts longer.
All batteries also have a shelf lifespan. That has nothing to do with charging or not charging the batteries. That has to do with the lifespan of the materials of the battery. This is completely different from charging practices to keep the battery good for longer periods of time.
Modern high end rechargeable batteries now days are much different from rechargeable batteries of the past. So past best practices don't apply for today's high end rechargeable batteries.
What you are doing is the worst practices for your batteries.
The more & quicker the charging of the batteries and the more that you keep the batteries on the charger the longer you are going to keep the batteries good.
The slower the charging the more battery power may be in use to keep device or charger running. Not good at all, because that is eating into the full charging cycles that the battery has in its lifespan.
With your method 75% total charge can take another 25% of the full charge cycle just as power leakage in keeping the device or battery charger going. I told you that it takes at least 700 mAh (this is by Samsung's information on the charger alone) just to guarantee to prevent this kind of power leakage. A computer's USB port (500 mAh at most) will have much less amps than that (depend on what else is on that same USB bus line (motherboards shares some USB ports on a single bus line) (this can mean much less than 500 mAh realistically). It is guarantee that you have power leakage.Which means that your method shortens your battery's lifespan.

Charging Questions for Z1s

Couple of questions.
1. Anyone notice when using a magnetic charging cable that the phone charges at literally half the speed that it does from using the regular usb cable?
2. Does the magnetic charging doc that was made for the Z1 work with the Z1s?
3. Does it charge super slow with the magnetic charging dock too?
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1. Yes, because your magnetric cable is not original. Many of this cables make problems because they do not respect Sony Specification. Mine for example charge 10% in 1 hour. Some of them working well, but is just luck.
2. Not sure about that but I think you can. I don't think they made a different everything in Z1s.
3. No. I got Original DK31 and in less than 2 hours my phone is fully charged. But if you buy not original one you can face this problem.

eclyptos said:
1. Yes, because your magnetric cable is not original. Many of this cables make problems because they do not respect Sony Specification. Mine for example charge 10% in 1 hour. Some of them working well, but is just luck.
2. Not sure about that but I think you can. I don't think they made a different everything in Z1s.
3. No. I got Original DK31 and in less than 2 hours my phone is fully charged. But if you buy not original one you can face this problem.
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Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?

LaosPerson said:
Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?
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15%. If you got not original, fake, stuff you get problem with charging. Try Original Sony first, then you will understand.

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15%. If you got not original, fake, stuff you get problem with charging. Try Original Sony first, then you will understand.
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No I was just asking so I could just use the magnetic charger instead of the cable, the cable takes me like 3 hours to charge unless it's because I plug in the charger with the surge protector thing I have plugged in with my computer. Cause when I charge the phone with just an outlet, not attached to any surge protector or the such, it seems to charge faster but it's probably just me, but anyways if that dock does charge in under 2 hours I will get one from the Sony website lol.

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No I was just asking so I could just use the magnetic charger instead of the cable, the cable takes me like 3 hours to charge unless it's because I plug in the charger with the surge protector thing I have plugged in with my computer. Cause when I charge the phone with just an outlet, not attached to any surge protector or the such, it seems to charge faster but it's probably just me, but anyways if that dock does charge in under 2 hours I will get one from the Sony website lol.
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I use the Stock Wall Charger 1.5mAh to 5V with the Original Dock. I spend like 26 euros for a best magnetic cable possible on eBay and it charge 10% in 1 Hour, Unbelievable. BTW, 3 hours from computer is normal because the mAh output is less than the Wall Charger. Next time I will buy original only or I will check the functionality of the cable and if it not working like it should I sand it back. Now I can't because i thought it was fine, but is not.

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I use the Stock Wall Charger 1.5mAh to 5V with the Original Dock. I spend like 26 euros for a best magnetic cable possible on eBay and it charge 10% in 1 Hour, Unbelievable. BTW, 3 hours from computer is normal because the mAh output is less than the Wall Charger. Next time I will buy original only or I will check the functionality of the cable and if it not working like it should I sand it back. Now I can't because i thought it was fine, but is not.
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I wasn't clear my mistake, I meant I had the charger plugged in with the block plugged into an outlet extension( the thing where it plugs into one outlet allowing 5 more things to be plugged in through that one outlet) with my computer also plugged into the extension outlet also, but my phone takes 3 hours to charge, but when I charge it through the outlet alone not into the extension it seems to charge faster.

Thanks for the help, I will look into Sony charging dock or magnetic charging cable. Think mine does like 8-10% in an hour... But my phone charges much faster with the usb charger that came with the phone. 3 hours tops and my phone is charged. I'm trying to preserve the flap, so may have to spend more and go straight from Sony, instead of Amazon.
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Thanks for the help, I will look into Sony charging dock or magnetic charging cable. Think mine does like 8-10% in an hour... But my phone charges much faster with the usb charger that came with the phone. 3 hours tops and my phone is charged. I'm trying to preserve the flap, so may have to spend more and go straight from Sony, instead of Amazon.
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If you buy a DK31 go to Sony. Well spend money and no problem at all. The magnetic cable it's expensive but not original one do not working like they should.

LaosPerson said:
Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?
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I use the charging dock that came with the phone, the charging speed is about 1% each minute.
Definitely worth it if you wanna charge your phone fast
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okay then, thanks you two for the clarification of the dock, if it didn't charge fast it wouldn't consider buying it but I might now

Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.

doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.

doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.

Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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