Charging Questions for Z1s - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Couple of questions.
1. Anyone notice when using a magnetic charging cable that the phone charges at literally half the speed that it does from using the regular usb cable?
2. Does the magnetic charging doc that was made for the Z1 work with the Z1s?
3. Does it charge super slow with the magnetic charging dock too?
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1. Yes, because your magnetric cable is not original. Many of this cables make problems because they do not respect Sony Specification. Mine for example charge 10% in 1 hour. Some of them working well, but is just luck.
2. Not sure about that but I think you can. I don't think they made a different everything in Z1s.
3. No. I got Original DK31 and in less than 2 hours my phone is fully charged. But if you buy not original one you can face this problem.

eclyptos said:
1. Yes, because your magnetric cable is not original. Many of this cables make problems because they do not respect Sony Specification. Mine for example charge 10% in 1 hour. Some of them working well, but is just luck.
2. Not sure about that but I think you can. I don't think they made a different everything in Z1s.
3. No. I got Original DK31 and in less than 2 hours my phone is fully charged. But if you buy not original one you can face this problem.
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Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?

LaosPerson said:
Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?
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15%. If you got not original, fake, stuff you get problem with charging. Try Original Sony first, then you will understand.

eclyptos said:
15%. If you got not original, fake, stuff you get problem with charging. Try Original Sony first, then you will understand.
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No I was just asking so I could just use the magnetic charger instead of the cable, the cable takes me like 3 hours to charge unless it's because I plug in the charger with the surge protector thing I have plugged in with my computer. Cause when I charge the phone with just an outlet, not attached to any surge protector or the such, it seems to charge faster but it's probably just me, but anyways if that dock does charge in under 2 hours I will get one from the Sony website lol.

LaosPerson said:
No I was just asking so I could just use the magnetic charger instead of the cable, the cable takes me like 3 hours to charge unless it's because I plug in the charger with the surge protector thing I have plugged in with my computer. Cause when I charge the phone with just an outlet, not attached to any surge protector or the such, it seems to charge faster but it's probably just me, but anyways if that dock does charge in under 2 hours I will get one from the Sony website lol.
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I use the Stock Wall Charger 1.5mAh to 5V with the Original Dock. I spend like 26 euros for a best magnetic cable possible on eBay and it charge 10% in 1 Hour, Unbelievable. BTW, 3 hours from computer is normal because the mAh output is less than the Wall Charger. Next time I will buy original only or I will check the functionality of the cable and if it not working like it should I sand it back. Now I can't because i thought it was fine, but is not.

eclyptos said:
I use the Stock Wall Charger 1.5mAh to 5V with the Original Dock. I spend like 26 euros for a best magnetic cable possible on eBay and it charge 10% in 1 Hour, Unbelievable. BTW, 3 hours from computer is normal because the mAh output is less than the Wall Charger. Next time I will buy original only or I will check the functionality of the cable and if it not working like it should I sand it back. Now I can't because i thought it was fine, but is not.
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I wasn't clear my mistake, I meant I had the charger plugged in with the block plugged into an outlet extension( the thing where it plugs into one outlet allowing 5 more things to be plugged in through that one outlet) with my computer also plugged into the extension outlet also, but my phone takes 3 hours to charge, but when I charge it through the outlet alone not into the extension it seems to charge faster.

Thanks for the help, I will look into Sony charging dock or magnetic charging cable. Think mine does like 8-10% in an hour... But my phone charges much faster with the usb charger that came with the phone. 3 hours tops and my phone is charged. I'm trying to preserve the flap, so may have to spend more and go straight from Sony, instead of Amazon.
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Thanks for the help, I will look into Sony charging dock or magnetic charging cable. Think mine does like 8-10% in an hour... But my phone charges much faster with the usb charger that came with the phone. 3 hours tops and my phone is charged. I'm trying to preserve the flap, so may have to spend more and go straight from Sony, instead of Amazon.
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If you buy a DK31 go to Sony. Well spend money and no problem at all. The magnetic cable it's expensive but not original one do not working like they should.

LaosPerson said:
Bwahhhhhh what? In less than two hours? What percent was your phone?
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I use the charging dock that came with the phone, the charging speed is about 1% each minute.
Definitely worth it if you wanna charge your phone fast
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okay then, thanks you two for the clarification of the dock, if it didn't charge fast it wouldn't consider buying it but I might now

Related

Can Milestone charger be used for OB?

I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
Just for be able to post new thread. Sorry.
Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
Huexxx said:
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....

Time to charge the phone

Hi,
how long do your XZs need to charged? I got a 3m usb cable to charge my phone using the docking station and have the feeling it was taking longer than before. Currently it charged 50% in 1h 40min.
I hope it isn't bad for battery health
ccab said:
Hi,
how long do your XZs need to charged? I got a 3m usb cable to charge my phone using the docking station and have the feeling it was taking longer than before. Currently it charged 50% in 1h 40min.
I hope it isn't bad for battery health
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How are you charging the phone? Via USB 2.0 on a computer OR using the supplied Sony charger that came with the phone?
Also, what dock is it?
Sony DK26 dock, Sony charger
ccab said:
Sony DK26 dock, Sony charger
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If you are charging it via PC via usb 2.0 (black) it will only charge at 500mA which is really slow. If you try a USB 3.0 (blue) slot it charges at 900mA which is faster. If you use the charger that came with the phone it will charge way faster since it's 1.5A (1500mA)
As I already said in my previous post, I'm using the original Sony Charger.
It charged so slow that it must have been about 700mA per hour. I think I'll search for another micro usb cable, that allows me to charge faster
ccab said:
As I already said in my previous post, I'm using the original Sony Charger.
It charged so slow that it must have been about 700mA per hour. I think I'll search for another micro usb cable, that allows me to charge faster
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Slow charging is better charging! I use a charger from an older smartphone.. 875mA..
Takes about an hour to get 20-70, another hour for the remaining 30%. But I keep it at 20-80 at most times because most guides told me so .
Over night i plug it to pc. and it actually had 0 to 78 on 5 hours so its pretty slow
ccab said:
As I already said in my previous post, I'm using the original Sony Charger.
It charged so slow that it must have been about 700mA per hour. I think I'll search for another micro usb cable, that allows me to charge faster
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Sorry misread that lol. I don't know why the USB cord sony supplied can't be longer? My SGS3 cable was way longer and i liked that. I wonder if a usb extension would be a better choice since the original cable is really good quality....
ccab said:
Hi,
how long do your XZs need to charged? I got a 3m usb cable to charge my phone using the docking station and have the feeling it was taking longer than before. Currently it charged 50% in 1h 40min.
I hope it isn't bad for battery health
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The problem is your cable,3m is very long to keep the mA power.
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gm007 said:
The problem is your cable,3m is very long to keep the mA power.
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Interesting, I have a 1.5m USB cable (not the sony) and using the OEM sony charger it will just barely charge my Z. So maybe my issue is the cable length.. I'll try it with the sony USB cable tonight to see if this fixes my problem.

Charging with dock station

I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
kalda01 said:
I noticed that when I charge the phone in the dock station, the phone gets very hot. Is this normal ? anything I should do
to prevent it ? Running latest 4.2.2 stock.
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In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
Kirkymole said:
In my experience, the dock is the least powerful of the chargers, my phone gets unbearably hot when charging on mains, put it in the dock and it just gets a little warm.
What mAh is the dock?
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The dock is 1800mah, but the wall charger that came with the phone is only 1500mah,
does it mean I shouldn't use the same wall charger when charging via the dock ? Do I need a charger rated at least 1800mah ?
I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
gripfly said:
I never noticed that. Yeah, maybe a bit warm but not so much as you can say it's hot. I will check it sometimes the next few days and will give a second review. :good:
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Last night tries to charge with same cable but a 2amp charger, and the dock did not heat up at all.
I really wonder if the original charger is faulty
Yeah it was like always, normal.
Thats possible, you can try it with another original charger and then you know whats going on, maybe..
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Can it cause any damage if using a 2.1amp wall charger instead of the original 1.5amp ?
I think the phone charges how much it needs/set. So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster. But i'm not sure also my explanation is bad I know
" So if you give the bigger charger it can be that the phone doesnt charge faster."
So it will not damage something. That I wanna say with this sentence
But for a 100% correctly answer an other person have to give an answer like a dev
The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
Kirkymole said:
The phone SHOULD only take the charge it needs, it has an auto cut out when the battery is full so it won't overload and damage the battery.
Charging amps is a funny business. A 1.5 amp charger on a ten metre cable will be practically the same as a 10 amp charger straight into the phone. You lose energy through the cable. The cable my dock came with is rated 2.1 amp but the charger itself is only rated for 0.5 amp. So it takes forever to charge, till I plugged a 3amp charger in, it charges at the same rate but the phone gets much hotter.
I dunno, I just stick to keeping the amps and cable ratings the same as the one that came with the phone in the box. That way we know we can break anything:good:
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I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
kalda01 said:
I noticed in recent days that the phone is heating up when not charging. I read it is a known issue with this model.
Is there something that can be done to fix this ? has anyone found a cure yet ? (other than dipping the phone in water to cool it down)
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Ignore it, the phone will automatically shut itself down to protect itself long before the temperature is high enough to actually cause it any permanent damage. It's actually nice in my profession, warms the hands on freezing cold days.
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Battery Issues.

I'm getting 5 hrs sot with my nexus 6 almost every time I charge it, but the problem is that it takes almost 3hrs, the charging time was normal i.e. 1.25hrs when I bought the phone and it worked normally for almost 2 months but now for almost a month it's taking 3 hrs to charge, I use turbo charger and my data cable is the original one, if my battery is faulty how can I check it? I don't have any random reboots. My main question is how can I check if my battery is faulty, there's no bulging on the back side
Kennel issue? If you have USB fast charge on try to disable it and see if that works.
I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
Yasharkhan said:
I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
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Sounds more like a faulty turbo charger to me than a device fault. Based on your SOT and physical normalities, I'm definitely leaning towards the charger. Either contact the original place of purchase, or Motorola support and see if you can get a replacement. That way, you'll know for sure.
Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
Yasharkhan said:
Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
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If your battery was faulty, you'd most likely see rapid drain or early shutdowns. I still think your charger is at fault. Considering it's far cheaper to replace a charger, I'd start there first.
It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
graydiggy said:
It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
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Thanks alot for explaining it like that, if you don't mind can you inbox me your number, I'd like to Whatsapp you to get more knowledge about this, should I get my turbo charger repaired or what?
I don't give out personal information on XDA for my own safety. However, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help.
Curious in any case wouldn't a Samsung 2amp charger be considered as fast as the rapid charger that comes with nexus? After all in all newer high-end charging docks isn't it the amp output that makes it charge faster?
I use my Samsung white 2 amp on all my phones what make a the nexus piece better? ?
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Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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