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My first week in the wild with a Nexus 4

It's been 8 days since I got my N4, and I've spent a full week of sixth form college using it. (Like the last two years of high school for you non-Brits.) In my case, it's been fantastic. I love it.
Hell, it even helped me get a girls number. I just met her, was talking to her for a bit, whipped out my N4 to check the time and she grabbed it off me in awe and added her number to my contacts
One of the main things on my mind was how tough the gorilla glass actually was. And I can say, it is in perfect condition. No scratches or marks whatsoever, but I have been very careful with it.
In Cambridge I get a decent HSPA signal and generally fast speeds. No HSPA+ on giffgaff though I listen to music on the bus and the audio quality is great, maybe on par with an iPod/iPhone. (Yes, you can tell the difference with a cheap Android phone and an iDevice.) The speaker is mediocre though, and the volume is severely reduced when placed on a flat surface.
The screen is wonderful, I haven't noticed any yellow tint or washed out colours like some people say. The way the glass curves off to the edge is magnificent, and really makes a significant difference in interacting with the phone.
On the topic of the screen, the glass itself feels very premium. It's smooth to the touch and is the most oleophobic screen I've used. The phone feels like it should be priced much higher.
The reflective back is very tasteful, it never looks tacky. A lot of the time it's just black and looks great. The camera is better than expected, it produced good photos.
Performance is good, I've had very few slow downs and games play at a high FPS. Chrome being the stock browser doesn't bother me, it holds up very well when browsing. The only difference you'll notice will be in benchmarks. There isn't really much to say about 4.2, I'm sure you're all aware of it's features. My only gripe is that the quick settings aren't toggles, they're just shortcuts.
Battery life is well.. meh. It's enough to hold up my day of moderate use (taken off charge at 6:30AM, get home about 5:15PM), but it's normally less than 15% by then. I would've liked something that could hold up for a bit longer.
I have also found that WiFi signal seems to be worse than previous devices I've owned, but I'm just looking for something to complain about now.
Overall, it's great. In my opinion, taking into the fact that it's a Nexus device, it's the best phone on the market. My friends seem to like it too, no one I've talked to so far knew what it was, but they're definitely interested in it. One of my buddies insist that I give it to him for his birthday :highfive:
For you guys who also have the phone, what do you think of it? And what have other people said about your new treasure? Feel free to ask any questions too

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It's been 8 days since I got my N4, and I've spent a full week of sixth form college using it. (Like the last two years of high school for you non-Brits.) In my case, it's been fantastic. I love it.
Hell, it even helped me get a girls number. I just met her, was talking to her for a bit, whipped out my N4 to check the time and she grabbed it off me in awe and added her number to my contacts
One of the main things on my mind was how tough the gorilla glass actually was. And I can say, it is in perfect condition. No scratches or marks whatsoever, but I have been very careful with it.
In Cambridge I get a decent HSPA signal and generally fast speeds. No HSPA+ on giffgaff though I listen to music on the bus and the audio quality is great, maybe on par with an iPod/iPhone. (Yes, you can tell the difference with a cheap Android phone and an iDevice.) The speaker is mediocre though, and the volume is severely reduced when placed on a flat surface.
The screen is wonderful, I haven't noticed any yellow tint or washed out colours like some people say. The way the glass curves off to the edge is magnificent, and really makes a significant difference in interacting with the phone.
On the topic of the screen, the glass itself feels very premium. It's smooth to the touch and is the most oleophobic screen I've used. The phone feels like it should be priced much higher.
The reflective back is very tasteful, it never looks tacky. A lot of the time it's just black and looks great. The camera is better than expected, it produced good photos.
Performance is good, I've had very few slow downs and games play at a high FPS. Chrome being the stock browser doesn't bother me, it holds up very well when browsing. The only difference you'll notice will be in benchmarks. There isn't really much to say about 4.2, I'm sure you're all aware of it's features. My only gripe is that the quick settings aren't toggles, they're just shortcuts.
Battery life is well.. meh. It's enough to hold up my day of moderate use (taken off charge at 6:30AM, get home about 5:15PM), but it's normally less than 15% by then. I would've liked something that could hold up for a bit longer.
I have also found that WiFi signal seems to be worse than previous devices I've owned, but I'm just looking for something to complain about now.
Overall, it's great. In my opinion, taking into the fact that it's a Nexus device, it's the best phone on the market. My friends seem to like it too, no one I've talked to so far new what it was, but they're definitely interested in it. One of my buddies insist that I give it to him for his birthday :highfive:
For you guys who also have the phone, what do you think of it? And what have other people said about your new treasure? Feel free to ask any questions too
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I like your summary!
I'm getting mine on Monday when my dad brings it with him from the U.S!
I think that most of the issues will be resolved in 4.2.1 (maybe even bringing LTE), making this a nearly perfect phone!!!

Net.silb said:
I like your summary!
I'm getting mine on Monday when my dad brings it with him from the U.S!
I think that most of the issues will be resolved in 4.2.1 (maybe even bringing LTE), making this a nearly perfect phone!!!
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Thanks! That's awesome, you're gonna love it. I sure hope so
For me, LTE isn't really on the agenda due to it's scarcity and price in the UK, but it would definitely make this phone more future proof
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To me, it sounds like O2 are preparing a nationwide DC-HSDPA rollout.
As its already available in limited big cities.
So, if the rollout is due end of this year - must mean everyone else, right?
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To me, it sounds like O2 are preparing a nationwide DC-HSDPA rollout.
As its already available in limited big cities.
So, if the rollout is due end of this year - must mean everyone else, right?
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That's brilliant, thanks for sharing!
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Tibbz96 said:
Hell, it even helped me get a girls number. I just met her, was talking to her for a bit, whipped out my N4 to check the time and she grabbed it off me in awe and added her number to my contacts
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Nexus 4 = chick magnet!! (thanks for that shiny back Google)

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Nexus 4 = chick magnet!! (thanks for that shiny back Google)
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Yes indeed! She even said "Wow.. It's so huge!" as she compared it to her 4S
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Tibbz96 said:
Yes indeed! She even said "Wow.. It's so huge!" as she compared it to her 4S
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That's awesome lol, if only Google would ship mine already

ctowne said:
That's awesome lol, if only Google would ship mine already
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It'll be worth the wait, trust me
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Tibbz96 said:
It'll be worth the wait, trust me
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I know! I'm just getting anxious. I want it now!!

ctowne said:
That's awesome lol, if only Google would ship mine already
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Yea, come on Google, ctowne needs some action too!

tgyberg said:
Yea, come on Google, ctowne needs some action too!
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Haha! "The new Nexus 4 from Google. Now, even us geeks can get laid"
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Good day governor, I await my Nexus 4 on giffgaff with some tea and biscuits.

Waiting for my nexus to come in as well in Cambridge, ON Canada. I always thought canada was behind on mobile tech. (we have had DC-HSPA for a couple years now LTE) but its good to know that we have caught up for the time being.

tgyberg said:
Yea, come on Google, ctowne needs some action too!
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Bahaha you xda peeps crack me up! Don't worry I get plenty :good: She is a damn sexy phone though

Picked up my N4 today and have been getting to grips with it, initial impressions are. It's fast though have had slow down. Gets very hot during anything using GPS or when playing games. Camera is average and when using the flash images are washed out. It's a bit early to say much about the battery life but after 1hr38mins, its down to 73%. build quality seems good. I thought it would be a bigger leap up from my old phone but am a little disappointed currently. I will continue but if it doesn't impress further it will go back. Do love jelly bean!
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Jazd71 said:
Picked up my N4 today and have been getting to grips with it, initial impressions are. It's fast though have had slow down. Gets very hot during anything using GPS or when playing games. Camera is average and when using the flash images are washed out. It's a bit early to say much about the battery life but after 1hr38mins, its down to 73%. build quality seems good. I thought it would be a bigger leap up from my old phone but am a little disappointed currently. I will continue but if it doesn't impress further it will go back. Do love jelly bean!
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What phone are you coming from? I haven't had a single slow down yet.
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Jazd71 said:
Picked up my N4 today and have been getting to grips with it, initial impressions are. It's fast though have had slow down. Gets very hot during anything using GPS or when playing games. Camera is average and when using the flash images are washed out. It's a bit early to say much about the battery life but after 1hr38mins, its down to 73%. build quality seems good. I thought it would be a bigger leap up from my old phone but am a little disappointed currently. I will continue but if it doesn't impress further it will go back. Do love jelly bean!
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Initially the battery is worse. After a few days it seemed to last longer. I also found that it gets quite warm, but I think that's mostly due to the glass

Coming from one s, it was gonna be a one x+ or N4 but like the natural android experience.
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Tibbz96 said:
Yes indeed! She even said "Wow.. It's so huge!" as she compared it to her 4S
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Now that's just downright funny!
#whatyouwanttohearagirlsay
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My Brother says Android will go down in size to iPhone 4 by end of 2014

My Brother, is an iPhone guy, mainly for it's smaller size, says he wants to go Android, he really likes the Nexus or Galaxy S3 phones, but says they are way too large, and is a big turn off to a lot of people. And also says the home button on bottom front of the iPhone, is a very important feature to have, you can turn the phone on with one finger while sitting on the desk, to check things. He said most Android phones you need to press the side button to turn on, and while phone is sitting on the desk, that is really a two hand operation.
The big thing he said, which I LOL'd big time, he said will make a $50 money bet right now on this statement; "By the end of 2014, all top end Android phones like the Nexus 6 and Galaxy S5, will realize they have gotten way too large, and will go back down to the proper size and width of the iPhone 4." He didn't say or expect screen size, but said the WIDTH, he said by end of 2014 top Android phones will go down to iPhone 4 WIDTH. He knows the screen size will always be larger on Android compared to the iPhone, but says they are mainly way too wide, and will shrink the width by end next year.
My opinion is that NO WAY will this happen, Android phones in 2013 will be larger than their previous 2012 version. Of course they will reach a point to stop growing in size, can't keep getting bigger year after year, but NO WAY do I see them going backwards to iPhone 4 WIDTH by end of 2014.
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I would take that bet without even thinking. All signs point to the phones staying this large size. Personally my g/f and I will never be able to go back to anything the size iPhone 4 after using the S3 and Note 2. My g/f is 5 feet so she's pretty small, and not once has she complained about her S3 being too big to operate with one hand. She's currently eyeing my Note 2 and waiting to see what the S4 is going to hold.
I would even be willing to bet that by 2014 the iPhone 6 or 6s will have a larger screen probably 4"+ at the very least.

I personally like my Nexus size @ 4.7", it's not too large like the Note 2, and not small like like the iPhone 5.
I had the Galaxy Nexus too, and now the Nexus 4, I find this size very comfortable, just right.

He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/

Archer said:
He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/
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Apple sucks
I love android
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Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"

My brother says swimming in a lake is like swimming in a pond or pool..

Typical iPhone user set in their ways androids will always vairey that's the biggest benefit of android not being tied to one spec or size.I owned an iPhone but when I complained regarding signal I received email telling me I was holding my phone incorrectly lost faith in it,which to this day you still see people holding them that way which I think a lot of younger people don't even realise how that came about and personally I find funny as was Apple's answer to gaining a decent connection.
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Zorachus said:
Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"
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He's got a good point. That's been an annoyance on Android that's never been resolved. On the Nexus One at least there was a trackball which you could use to move the curser to the end of the line of text, but no Android phones have that ability currently.
It's definitely a problem that's long overdue for a fix.
Of course, with the Apple method as you've just described it, if you wanted to edit somewhere in the middle of the line the curser is going to jump to the end and you'd have to delete back to where you want to edit.

But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?

Archer said:
But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?
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Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.

I suppose he believes there's only 2 Android Phones? Because the S3 Mini is a lot smaller.
One of the main reasons most people (those 82% of the market, in fact.) don't want an iPhone is the tiny screen... Well, that and the lack of customisation.
Also, this home button thing. There's apps for putting a phone to sleep, and you can wake an SGS up with the.. ohhh, big button on the front!
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Of course, with the Apple method as you've just described it, if you wanted to edit somewhere in the middle of the line the curser is going to jump to the end and you'd have to delete back to where you want to edit.
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You do. I believe there's some sort of loop-feature thing that somehow pops up, but I couldn't find it. Spend half an hour figuring out how change 1 letter in the beginning of a 2 page document on an iPhone 5. It's impossible.

DirkGently said:
Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.
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As I was typing that I thought it may have only come into play with ICS. I forget how much of a jump there was from GB to now, having had "nearly" Jelly Bean for a while and then proper Jelly Bean on both my phone and tablet. It's bizarre to think there are phones still being sold with pre-Gingerbread versions on them.
Let's face it, for 99% of users they don't give a toss about the platform. They just want to know what apps are available. Most people (I believe) want a bigger screen, but not too big. Comfortably big, but thin. That's the way of things at the moment. I remember getting my S2 and thinking it was big, but now it looks like a regular phone compared to some of the phones out there. I really don't see why Apple don't make 3 or 4 different models of each iPhone. They could just make them different sizes (same resolution, to save the OS changes). They may have a big brand, but they could have a much bigger one if they just took their fingers out of their ears and started to listen to the rest of the market.

russeini said:
Tell ur brother he can take his narrow iphone 4 nd ...... it smwhere he cant fit large sizes unlike his ridiculously big mouth!
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Raymond199483 said:
Tell your brother that apple sucks compared to android
Nuff said
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Now...now...settle down.
I believe it's a circular dilemma for phone\device makers.
Phones approaching tablet size then tablets reclining into phone size.
Wireless mobile of course started off huge moved to tiny (early Ericsson cellphones) now sizes are yet to stabilize.
Boils down to what fits flat against your hip.

You're bros high man.
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In my opinion the nexus 4 and the HTC one have prefect screen sizes- 4.7 inches. Not too big and not too small. Note 2 and the Xperia z are way too big for my liking
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4.3-4.7 is the perfect screen size. Even the recently launched SG Grand is 5". Bummer. S3 Mini would have been a better release, and I'm quite sure Samsung won't release it here because they can affect each others sales.
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Archer said:
Most people (I believe) want ... Comfortably big, but thin.
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Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean

StormMcCloud said:
Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean
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Lets settle this once and for all!!!!

Ok guys and gals I've had enough of the back and forth on which phone is better blah blah blah. Look guys I work for sprint and have had time to test both phones out extensively and I must say it Is a close tie you can't go wrong with either one. Now onto the real topic my tech and I both performed tests on both phones ranging from bench marks to camera to software etc etc and we both agreed the HTC ONE out beat the Samsung galaxy s4 by a slight edge. Now yes I realize Samsung gives you all these features and options and it's nice to have them but it takes away from the phone a lot. HTC is missing some simple key features that would put it over the top but it doesn't take away that it is an amazing phone. Onto the results in the quadrant score the HTC ONE beat the s4 three out of three times the numbers don't lie. Camera the HTC ONE performed better in daylight outside low light etc. We even had customers look at the same photo on both phones and nine out of ten times customers chose the HTC over the Samsung so I don't understand where these people get the idea that more pixels are better I mean are you blowing up a picture to life size? Hardware we both agreed the HTC has the better hardware it's a no brainer but the function of a removable battery and sd slot give the Samsung a slight edge. Screen quality although the Samsung has the nice five inch screen this category comes as a tie because you really can't go wrong with either one. I understand that HTC hasn't been the best at giving updates and developers stop developing for HTC a lot earlier than Samsung but this is HTC's last chance to bring themselves back I don't see them screwing this up. My tech has the Samsung galaxy s4 and will often say Damn I wish I got the HTC ONE instead. I'm tired of hearing all these stupid battles on which phone is better let's be done adult ass people and realize that we all don't have the same taste and we will like whatever phone suits US better. With all that said here comes the reality of the fact Samsung has better features but the HTC is the better all around performer. Hopefully we can end this fight and come to peace to help each other develop great roms and features for both phones and help take down apple instead of taking each other down that is all. My apologies for run on sentences and what not.

It'll never stop.
Walls of text should be illegal, thanks for the input tho.
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we really don't need another post like this. this could have been posted in the 5 others threads like this. this forum is getting to cluttered with the same stuff over and over.
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This.
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WTB paragraphs.
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Sorry, stopped reading for fear of damaging my eye sight due to lack of punctuation and proper paraphrasing.
I can deal with one or the other, usually, but not both.
I'm sure you have some great information in there but you need to fix its readability. :thumbup:
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There we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very profound, I agree.
BTW, the One is MUCH better.

socalnative1 said:
Ok guys and gals I've had enough of the back and forth on which phone is better blah blah blah. Look guys I work for sprint and have had time to test both phones out extensively and I must say it Is a close tie you can't go wrong with either one. Now onto the real topic my tech and I both performed tests on both phones ranging from bench marks to camera to software etc etc and we both agreed the HTC ONE out beat the Samsung galaxy s4 by a slight edge. Now yes I realize Samsung gives you all these features and options and it's nice to have them but it takes away from the phone a lot. HTC is missing some simple key features that would put it over the top but it doesn't take away that it is an amazing phone. Onto the results in the quadrant score the HTC ONE beat the s4 three out of three times the numbers don't lie. Camera the HTC ONE performed better in daylight outside low light etc. We even had customers look at the same photo on both phones and nine out of ten times customers chose the HTC over the Samsung so I don't understand where these people get the idea that more pixels are better I mean are you blowing up a picture to life size? Hardware we both agreed the HTC has the better hardware it's a no brainer but the function of a removable battery and sd slot give the Samsung a slight edge. Screen quality although the Samsung has the nice five inch screen this category comes as a tie because you really can't go wrong with either one. I understand that HTC hasn't been the best at giving updates and developers stop developing for HTC a lot earlier than Samsung but this is HTC's last chance to bring themselves back I don't see them screwing this up. My tech has the Samsung galaxy s4 and will often say Damn I wish I got the HTC ONE instead. I'm tired of hearing all these stupid battles on which phone is better let's be done adult ass people and realize that we all don't have the same taste and we will like whatever phone suits US better. With all that said here comes the reality of the fact Samsung has better features but the HTC is the better all around performer. Hopefully we can end this fight and come to peace to help each other develop great roms and features for both phones and help take down apple instead of taking each other down that is all. My apologies for run on sentences and what not.
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socalnative1 said:
Ok guys and gals I've had enough of the back and forth on which phone is better blah blah blah. Look guys I work for sprint and have had time to test both phones out extensively and I must say it Is a close tie you can't go wrong with either one. Now onto the real topic my tech and I both performed tests on both phones ranging from bench marks to camera to software etc etc and we both agreed the HTC ONE out beat the Samsung galaxy s4 by a slight edge. Now yes I realize Samsung gives you all these features and options and it's nice to have them but it takes away from the phone a lot. HTC is missing some simple key features that would put it over the top but it doesn't take away that it is an amazing phone. Onto the results in the quadrant score the HTC ONE beat the s4 three out of three times the numbers don't lie. Camera the HTC ONE performed better in daylight outside low light etc. We even had customers look at the same photo on both phones and nine out of ten times customers chose the HTC over the Samsung so I don't understand where these people get the idea that more pixels are better I mean are you blowing up a picture to life size? Hardware we both agreed the HTC has the better hardware it's a no brainer but the function of a removable battery and sd slot give the Samsung a slight edge. Screen quality although the Samsung has the nice five inch screen this category comes as a tie because you really can't go wrong with either one. I understand that HTC hasn't been the best at giving updates and developers stop developing for HTC a lot earlier than Samsung but this is HTC's last chance to bring themselves back I don't see them screwing this up. My tech has the Samsung galaxy s4 and will often say Damn I wish I got the HTC ONE instead. I'm tired of hearing all these stupid battles on which phone is better let's be done adult ass people and realize that we all don't have the same taste and we will like whatever phone suits US better. With all that said here comes the reality of the fact Samsung has better features but the HTC is the better all around performer. Hopefully we can end this fight and come to peace to help each other develop great roms and features for both phones and help take down apple instead of taking each other down that is all. My apologies for run on sentences and what not.
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Let it go guys... Jeez
No need for more of this nonsense endless argument...
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Holy mother of dead pixels!

Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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It's like a galaxy....

Who's to say you wont get the same or even worse with the S4, It can happen with any model you get

I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.

cac9478 said:
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Yes but if you get another phone there's no guarantee that there wont be more of less dead pixels. It's a crap shoot.

cac9478 said:
I had the note 2 since it's release date and with much lower PPI I never once noticed any stuck or dead pixels. After using this phone for only 2 days I began to notice these. I could deal with it if there were just a few of them but this is crazy.
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Do you think we all just deal with dead pixels and this is a completely normal thing?
Ok, well...see yaw layer. Lolololol.
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Just did a pixel test mine looks fine. You just had bad luck why don't you just exchange it
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cac9478 said:
Im switching to the S4, this is ridiculous.
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Looks like user error!
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Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.

I'm never buying a screen again! My girlfriend's parents' TV got dead pixels after using it, all of my phones get dead pixels in the shape of middle fingers, it's just offensive. I wish someone would invent a paper screen with ink... That way when it messed up I could change the page...
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Go get a iPhone. You belong with that group of chodes
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BrianBaker said:
Screw Getting it replaced.All HTC Ones have turned to s*** because 1 phone is loaded with dead pixels...You were looking for a reason to hate it to be honest with you.
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I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.

It's not widespread, I've got 2 HTC ones and both have zero dead pixels.
With a device there are millions of in the world you have to expect a few lemons . If you found 50 people with dead pixels on their LCD you're still not "widespread".
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I had a dead pixel on my first HTC one went and exchanged it no problem. I haven't had an issue with my phone ever since. I'm with every one else you are just looking for a reason to switch.
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Actually they look to be stuck on a color! there are programs you can run to fix that and if it persists i would exchange it. The S4 is NOT a better phone take a few to look at the reviews, lag , cheap quality etc just lets all calm down.

cac9478 said:
I know that most of you don't venture too far from xda, but if you did you would realize this problem is very widespread. One guy went through four of them at the store and found several dead pixels on every single one of them. To all of you that say your screen has none, look closer because I highly doubt that. HTC's biggest failure has always been quality control, and the One is no exception. I decided to give them a chance again after using Samsung phones for the past 3 years, and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed. I'm not going to waste my time swapping out phones over and over, when I could just exchange it for a phone company, that from my personal experience, doesn't exhibit such severe defects.
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You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.

Rirere said:
You really don't get the concept of reporter bias, do you? The population of people who post on forums tend to be the most vocal in their complaints. HTC has sold millions of these phones, and you're going to claim "this problem is very widespread" based on a skewed sample? Please go take some statistics classes.
By that token, I shouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 10, my Nexus 7, my Transformer TF300T, my iPad 3, my Galaxy Tab 10.1, or my HP TouchPad. Or even my Galaxy Player 4.0.
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Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.

Took me three tries to get an decent HTC one. And even then I had to settle with some gaps because I didn't want to risk dead pixels.
I agree with the quality control issues.
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cac9478 said:
Went to the Sprint store and with the manager went through 4 NIB HTC One's. All of them had at least 4 stuck pixels, the worst one had over 10. Had him grab me an S4, and as expected, not a single stuck or dead pixel. I, like many, thought the One was going to be the phone that would bring HTC back into the game, but unfortunately that is not the case. You all go ahead and keep defending your purchase, but I can guarantee if you look close enough there are some stuck pixels on your screen. I am now the proud owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S4, and while the speaker quality may not be as good, it's still better than a screen that looks like the Milky Way Galaxy. I don't need statistics classes to tell me the display on that phone is a POS.
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I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?

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I'd say trolling, but you're really just a joke at this point. You can guarantee that my phone has issues? You've crossed from being an angry buyer to outright silly. Color cycling my screen shows no dead pixels. I've actually never had any dead pixels of any kind, on any device I've own-- maybe it's because I take care of my device?
It's comical how fast you run from accepted statistical practice. After all, if your evidence is terrible, why try to play the game with facts?
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Grab yourself a magnifying class, you will be amazed by what you find!

Staying STOCK but still having it all

Hi everyone. I have been a long term reader of XDA, and finally I think I have something to contribute.
I have been a long term modder, constantly flashing new ROMS on my phone. I think I went through about 20 ROMs on my last phone the HTC One S.
But now I am hoping to stay pretty much stock as much as possible. Like a lot of you I can't wait to give Xposed framework a crack, but till then what apps get you through the day, without deciding to whack on TWRP and begin flashing?
For me here is several apps that just takes my stock N5 to the next level without needing to mod. Though some of them work best with root.
DynamicNotification Play store link
Jealous of Moto X users with their funky Active Notifications? this app is the next best thing. Take the time to tweak the settings and you might find this ticks the box. Active Notfiy is ano alternative. But I have not tested it.
Gravity Screen On/Off Play store link
This app is amazing. If you have you phone flat on the desk at work, just pick it up and it swtiches on. Imagine if your phone is trickle charging on a Qi charger, you pick it up and use it then put it down and it times out. I have the 'false turn-on protection in hand & car' checked and this means I have the best of both worlds. I can hit power and switch the screen off till I hit the power again. or not use the power button and allow gravity on off to take care of things. Awesome app.
Dashclock play store link
Probably the best app to come to take advantage of the lockcreen widgets in 4.2. Widgets on 4.4 is not enabled by default, but can be added in settings > security > Enable widgets. The good thing about the widgets on the lockscreen in 4.4 is they got it right. No stupid 'hints' every time you switch on the screen and you can easily remove the default clock on the lockscreen, and add Dashclock as your default lockscreen widget. Awesome.
START!? Play store link
Last but not least. When sticking with the GEL launcher I have found it harder to get to an app I want. It is great to be able to use the persistent Google search bar (Google now) to search using the first few letters of an app to pull it up quickly and launch it. But sometimes I dont remember the name of an app, I just know what I want. So Categories are good. I think the Aviate launcher show a lot of us that. Start!? gives you a neat overlay menu a bit like Action Launcher in which you can have any number of manually managed groups/folders of apps. I paired it with a gesture using GMD gestures so I can launch and use START!? anywhere anytime on my phone. Great app.
Stay stock everyone. Hang in there. Any other suggestions of apps that can help staying stock but still having it all, post below. cheers.
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ES File Explorer Play store link - bblzd recommended this also here

The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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ES File Explorer for wireless file transfers and device storage management.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop

magicriggs said:
The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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I have the dynamic notification app and it doesn't take as much battery for me, maybe 10% or so. 2hr screen time and 15h 27m on battery. I check twitter and use hangouts/fb messenger alot and I was listening to music for about 3-4 hours straight.

+1 for Dash Clock.

Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.

Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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Elisha said:
Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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i used to do that kind of thing with tasker. but it's a pain to set it up.. on samsung phones the speaker is on the back, so i had a tasker program to switch to speakerphone if i laid the phone face down during a call. and used the camera flash led as a really obnoxiously bright notification light.

Stay stock on developer phone?
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I definitely wanted a Moto X until the N5 came around, as a result I do want to emulate a couple features as I can from the Moto X.
DynamicNotifications is kinda buggy for me but GravityScreen works really well. What I need next is full speech navigation for the N5.

davwman said:
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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davwman said:
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.

cannondale0815 said:
I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.

Great thread. Thanks. Didn't know about Dynamic Notifications. Using them now, hopefully it doest kill the battery. I have been getting great battery so far on my N5.

One S
Have to put in a good word for the One S. Mine was rooted with AOKP 4.1.1 ROM and did everything I wanted--except for LTE. So I got an N5. sure the N5 is faster but the One S was a more convenient size and seemed more robustly bult. And KitKat on the N5 has a lot of--let's admit it--Google bloatware that has to be stripped off. Google is actually becoming more like Apple (do it my way!) and the carriers (Take this crapware or else!)

jbdan said:
You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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Totally understand. Looks nice

Does DynamicNotifications conflict with Screen Gravity? Seems like they have some overlapping features.

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+1 on ES File Explorer

glaudrem said:
I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.
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So the one s screen looked better? :sly: whatever you say. And the one s was crap, With crap Sense bloat, crap reception, constant loss of cell service, dropped calls, non existent data service. Amoled is crap, and provides nothing but over exaggerated color. I had the one s, in fact 2 to be exact, and they both had the exact same issues. The one s was a low to mid end phone. Never mind htc's mind numbing s on annoyance, and HTC dev unlock. :banghead: the last HTC device I will ever buy.