Hi everyone. I have been a long term reader of XDA, and finally I think I have something to contribute.
I have been a long term modder, constantly flashing new ROMS on my phone. I think I went through about 20 ROMs on my last phone the HTC One S.
But now I am hoping to stay pretty much stock as much as possible. Like a lot of you I can't wait to give Xposed framework a crack, but till then what apps get you through the day, without deciding to whack on TWRP and begin flashing?
For me here is several apps that just takes my stock N5 to the next level without needing to mod. Though some of them work best with root.
DynamicNotification Play store link
Jealous of Moto X users with their funky Active Notifications? this app is the next best thing. Take the time to tweak the settings and you might find this ticks the box. Active Notfiy is ano alternative. But I have not tested it.
Gravity Screen On/Off Play store link
This app is amazing. If you have you phone flat on the desk at work, just pick it up and it swtiches on. Imagine if your phone is trickle charging on a Qi charger, you pick it up and use it then put it down and it times out. I have the 'false turn-on protection in hand & car' checked and this means I have the best of both worlds. I can hit power and switch the screen off till I hit the power again. or not use the power button and allow gravity on off to take care of things. Awesome app.
Dashclock play store link
Probably the best app to come to take advantage of the lockcreen widgets in 4.2. Widgets on 4.4 is not enabled by default, but can be added in settings > security > Enable widgets. The good thing about the widgets on the lockscreen in 4.4 is they got it right. No stupid 'hints' every time you switch on the screen and you can easily remove the default clock on the lockscreen, and add Dashclock as your default lockscreen widget. Awesome.
START!? Play store link
Last but not least. When sticking with the GEL launcher I have found it harder to get to an app I want. It is great to be able to use the persistent Google search bar (Google now) to search using the first few letters of an app to pull it up quickly and launch it. But sometimes I dont remember the name of an app, I just know what I want. So Categories are good. I think the Aviate launcher show a lot of us that. Start!? gives you a neat overlay menu a bit like Action Launcher in which you can have any number of manually managed groups/folders of apps. I paired it with a gesture using GMD gestures so I can launch and use START!? anywhere anytime on my phone. Great app.
Stay stock everyone. Hang in there. Any other suggestions of apps that can help staying stock but still having it all, post below. cheers.
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ES File Explorer Play store link - bblzd recommended this also here
The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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magicriggs said:
The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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I have the dynamic notification app and it doesn't take as much battery for me, maybe 10% or so. 2hr screen time and 15h 27m on battery. I check twitter and use hangouts/fb messenger alot and I was listening to music for about 3-4 hours straight.
+1 for Dash Clock.
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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i used to do that kind of thing with tasker. but it's a pain to set it up.. on samsung phones the speaker is on the back, so i had a tasker program to switch to speakerphone if i laid the phone face down during a call. and used the camera flash led as a really obnoxiously bright notification light.
Stay stock on developer phone?
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I definitely wanted a Moto X until the N5 came around, as a result I do want to emulate a couple features as I can from the Moto X.
DynamicNotifications is kinda buggy for me but GravityScreen works really well. What I need next is full speech navigation for the N5.
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Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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davwman said:
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.
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I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.
Great thread. Thanks. Didn't know about Dynamic Notifications. Using them now, hopefully it doest kill the battery. I have been getting great battery so far on my N5.
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Have to put in a good word for the One S. Mine was rooted with AOKP 4.1.1 ROM and did everything I wanted--except for LTE. So I got an N5. sure the N5 is faster but the One S was a more convenient size and seemed more robustly bult. And KitKat on the N5 has a lot of--let's admit it--Google bloatware that has to be stripped off. Google is actually becoming more like Apple (do it my way!) and the carriers (Take this crapware or else!)
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You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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Totally understand. Looks nice
Does DynamicNotifications conflict with Screen Gravity? Seems like they have some overlapping features.
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glaudrem said:
I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.
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So the one s screen looked better? :sly: whatever you say. And the one s was crap, With crap Sense bloat, crap reception, constant loss of cell service, dropped calls, non existent data service. Amoled is crap, and provides nothing but over exaggerated color. I had the one s, in fact 2 to be exact, and they both had the exact same issues. The one s was a low to mid end phone. Never mind htc's mind numbing s on annoyance, and HTC dev unlock. :banghead: the last HTC device I will ever buy.
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First time, long time.
Alright, well before I get flamed for either being up Steve Jobs ass or being a Google loyalist, first alittle about my history with Apple and Google.
My first real Smartphone was the HTC G1 running Andriod 1.0 before that the closest thing I had was an LG Dare. I got it on day 1 and was really excited to see what Android was all about because I was sick of people showing off there iPhones and I never considered myself an 'Apple Guy'. I liked the phone but for anyone who remembers it, it really couldn't hold a candle to the iPhone. So long story short I had it for about a year got drunk and left it behind in cab. At that point I took the plunge and got an iPhone 3GS, and was very pleased with it. All that lag that I had gotten accustom to with my G1 was gone and I had access to a much larger App store. I had the 3GS for two years then I upgraded to the 4S which was a much smaller leap forward. The screen was nice but you stop noticing it after awhile and Siri, looks cool in commercials but in real life serves no purpose unless you're driving. Needless to say it wasn't a huge improvement over my previous 3GS. I was on the fence about getting the 4S I really wanted to try and get back into Android with the Nexus Prime, but my contract was up and their wasn't even an Official release date on the horizon yet just speculation.
Now in terms of tablets. The first tablet I ever bought was the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I was real excited to get it. I liked the Xoom a lot to but held off once I heard about the Galaxy because for whatever reason I thought a Samsung tablet had to be better than a Motorola one. I never gave the iPad much attention because it's basically a big iPhone and I have had an iPhone for the last 2 years and the prospect of spending 400-500 for an iPhone with a larger screen didn't do anything for me. The Tab 10.1 was ok but still very 'laggey' and choppy and was a little disappointing to be honest. Plus I HATED Touchwiz, so like everyone else on the XDA forum I rooted an installed a custom Rom (AOSP Kang I think they were around Milestone 3 when I did it). It was much better but not perfect, smoother but still not 'buttery' and apps like the web browser and MX Player were prone to crash once in awhile. Anyway long story short when I heard about the Nexus 7 it sounded perfect to me so I preordered mine day 1, listed the Tab 10.1 on eBay and made the switch.
How I ended up with an iPad 2. Basically my office gave them to all the outside sales reps so we could do product demonstrations in front of customers at their location. They made a bunch of Keynote presentations and video and honestly the whole package they put together was pretty nice. Anyway I've had it for at least the last 3 months.
TLR - I don't consider myself in either camp, I've owned both Google and Apple products. Sophi's choice if I had to pick a side - I would probably go Andriod.
Anyway here we go.
The OS - While I wish the Nexus 7 had the tablet UI and I know I can get it if I root it, I haven't. I like the 4.1 over IOS way better. Even though it's just a much improved version on Honeycomb I think its way better for a tablet then IOS, which to this day is still just an iPhone with a larger screen. There's something about it that just feels more like a handheld computer then IOS. Maybe its the customization or all the tweaks to the home screen but hands down this is the best thing Andriod has going for it.
Smoothness - Here is where Andriod really needs to catch up, and 4.1 is a huge step forward but still can't touch the iPad (2). Apples really has this locked down, while the Nexus 7 is the most responsive Android device I've played with it still can't come close to matching the iPad/iPhone. I rarely if ever notice any slow down or come across any hiccups/lag on any of my iOS devices. I know iOS doesn't have widgets or true multitasking but it makes for a much smoother user experience. I don't know why that's a bad thing either, I don't know what you have to have running in the background besides music or downloads but you can do both of those things on the iPad and it still works flawlessly.
Form Factor - This is kind of a draw, I like them both. Actually if I wanted to go bigger I liked the Tab's 10.1 display on the Galaxy.
Build Quality - That would have to go to Apple but I know it's a $200 budget tablet VS $400 premium tablet. Although I would take the rubberized material on the back of the Nexus 7 over the silver metal on the back of the iPad, just makes it feel more rugged/durable In my opion.
Apps - Overall quality of Apps has to go to Apple, plus I like the fact they had a separate section for tablet apps. Although the fact that I can get emulators like FPse and play Final Fantasy 9 on my Nexus 7 might even it all out in the end. I guess this is a pretty common complaint among people coming from iOS about Google Play. If Google just did things like add more categories and promote the top apps in those categories better I think a lot of those complaints would go away. Not to mention I still dont get why something that $2.99 on the Apple app store is $5.99 on Google Play. I can't site anything specific I just feel like things on Google Play are more expensive, not all the time but some of the time.
Battery - I don't know about while being used since I still use my Nexus 7 way more than the iPad. But on standby with Wifi turned on the iPad 2 lasts way longer then my Nexus 7 when they're both left off the charger over night. There's hardly a dent in iPad battery but the Nexus 7 will take a serious hit.
Gaming - Gotta give this to the Nexus 7, or maybe just the 7" form factor, its great for playing games. Fits great in your hands and works well with virtual buttons. Plus almost any noteworthy game on iOS is on Android plus you have tons of awesome emulators.
That's all I got, thanks for reading and let me know if you agree or disagree. But please don't turn this into a thread with a 100 "Stop sucking Apples ****" like comments.
PS - I have been noticing that my Nexus 7 isn't registering every touch and it seems to happen sporadically. The issue is fixed when I lock then unlock the screen. Anyone have a more permanent fix or is it a known hardware/software problem.
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Interesting. I agree with you on most points. I'm a big Apple fan (and owned an iPad 2 for a few months) but I can recognize this Nexus 7 (which I own too) is a great device !
I think what I miss most is high quality apps. Android has some good apps but IMO, most of them doesn't look as good and work as well as their iOS equivalents. But with the popularity of the Nexus 7, I think this might get better over time.
also have the ipad and the nexus 7, i'm banking on the nexus 7 getting more support, when that happens, it will be a more useful device even more
Maybe I'm just crazy, or partially biased since Apple's recent actions have me exceptionally disappointed in them, but I have an iPad right here... and I really can't put into words how disinterested I am in that device anymore. My 2c.
Was about to write a similar post. I had the iPhone 3gs and original iPad for a bit, but for the last 2 years have been strictly Android. For phones I've had HTC Evo, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3. For tablets I've had the Xoom, the original Galaxy Tab 7, the Galaxy 10, and now the Nexus.
Last week I had to buy an iPad 3 to demo my company's iPad app, and was planning on returning it after 30 days. I remembered thinking the Nexus 7 was so damn smooth, but after playing with the iPad it's definitely got some work to do. Also, I absolutely love the reddit app on iPad (AlienBlue).
That all being said, I still hate most of iOS's locked down features and how it's just a big iPhone, but I can't deny it's polish. So much so that I might be interested in a 7 inch version of iPad when it comes out.
Thank you for the fair comparisons. Its often difficult for me to believe reviews are unbiased. In this case, I can relate since I own a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and a Nexus 7. And maybe, just maybe I will check out the mini iPad to see for myself. Up to this point I have had no interest in apple products, because of what I felt like unnecessary restrictions. But if they do come out with a mini version, and a price tag to match it, I think I am finally convinced to give it a try.
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Was about to write a similar post. I had the iPhone 3gs and original iPad for a bit, but for the last 2 years have been strictly Android. For phones I've had HTC Evo, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3. For tablets I've had the Xoom, the original Galaxy Tab 7, the Galaxy 10, and now the Nexus.
Last week I had to buy an iPad 3 to demo my company's iPad app, and was planning on returning it after 30 days. I remembered thinking the Nexus 7 was so damn smooth, but after playing with the iPad it's definitely got some work to do. Also, I absolutely love the reddit app on iPad (AlienBlue).
That all being said, I still hate most of iOS's locked down features and how it's just a big iPhone, but I can't deny it's polish. So much so that I might be interested in a 7 inch version of iPad when it comes out.
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Just wanted to point this out. Same can be said about any Android tablet. Aren't Android tablet's just "one big Android phone?" Think about that since they (both ipad/iphone) and Android (phone/tablet) share mobile OS's.
In ics they have the tablet UI.
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aneftp said:
Just wanted to point this out. Same can be said about any Android tablet. Aren't Android tablet's just "one big Android phone?" Think about that since they (both ipad/iphone) and Android (phone/tablet) share mobile OS's.
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Ya I agree. Now the the Android tablet UI and mobile are very similar. Android still tweaks it a little bit for example notifications being on the bottom instead of the top the menu keys being off to the side as opposed to the middle, and the lack of a 'dock' or whatever its called the phones have that the tablet does not. iOS is exactly the same across the phone and tablet besides some apps taking advantage of the larger screen, which the same could be said for Android
I was talking more the jump from Ginger bread to Honeycomb, now there very very similar.
I have pretty much the same opinions, except that it is the iOS store that seems more expensive to me. And I can almost always find an app with a function I need for free on Google play while the iOS store has 1 or 2 good paid apps, and several terrible free ones (ex. the mkv player I was looking for a week ago)
I should also mention that I have the 3rd gen iPad, and it definitely beats 7 on the looks and build quality. However, I often just get extremely frustrated with the OS, I don't know if "locked down" is quite the word to describe it. Really what would make the happiest person alive is putting Android on the iPad hardware (or shell anyway).
To sum up: 3rd iPad looks delicious, and it a joy to use with things Apple wants you to use, but lacks a lot of functionality. The Nexus, ironically, "just works."
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PS - I have been noticing that my Nexus 7 isn't registering every touch and it seems to happen sporadically. The issue is fixed when I lock then unlock the screen. Anyone have a more permanent fix or is it a known hardware/software problem.
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This is my only problem with the device so far. Seems more like a software issue due to the nature of the temporary fix
Like yourself i too have had the opportunity to own both devices. I found the 10" form to be way to big for me. It even caused me to sell my iPad.
However, the 7" size on the nexus is perfect and honestly expect apple to come out with a tablet this size because imo it really is perfect.
Sounds like you have something eating your battery while it's in sleep mode. I lose about 2-4% overnight.
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How is having device specific app a good thing? It's actually pretty stupid to have a specific iPhone app, a specific iPad app, a specific iNote with digitizer pen app if they ever come out with one, etc. when it's simpler and more efficient to have one app cover all devices.
As for the claim with touch input not registering, have you enabled the built-in show touch input under developer options? More than likely it is registering the touch input but the app is busy such as is the case with Chrome when it's downloading and rendering a long web page.
As far as UI responsiveness iOS doesn't really do much other than display a static grid of icons. I can take an ancient 386 33MHz PC and it'll display and navigate the Window 3.1 desktop with ease. They both do very little to nothing with the UI.
Yeah, as far as the battery goes... I'm at 72% on my Nexus 7, after 55hrs, no charging involved. lol. Its been used a little, not too much, but it's keeping its juice for me.
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Yeah, as far as the battery goes... I'm at 72% on my Nexus 7, after 55hrs, no charging involved. lol. Its been used a little, not too much, but it's keeping its juice for me.
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Stock rom? Is wifi/everything turned off?
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Stock rom? Is wifi/everything turned off?
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If your not using the device, WiFi and Bluetooth go to sleep. So in effect the device goes into "airplane" mode. If I go the day without using mine, it drains at about 8-10% a day as well.
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How is having device specific app a good thing? It's actually pretty stupid to have a specific iPhone app, a specific iPad app, a specific iNote with digitizer pen app if they ever come out with one, etc. when it's simpler and more efficient to have one app cover all devices.
As for the claim with touch input not registering, have you enabled the built-in show touch input under developer options? More than likely it is registering the touch input but the app is busy such as is the case with Chrome when it's downloading and rendering a long web page.
As far as UI responsiveness iOS doesn't really do much other than display a static grid of icons. I can take an ancient 386 33MHz PC and it'll display and navigate the Window 3.1 desktop with ease. They both do very little to nothing with the UI.
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I love when I see other people that "get it" when it comes to Android app development vs. iOS app development. I'm constantly trying to explain to iFans and even some Android fans that in android you don't need multiple apps to cover phones, tablets, and now even TVs. But with iOS you do.
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If your not using the device, WiFi and Bluetooth go to sleep. So in effect the device goes into "airplane" mode. If I go the day without using mine, it drains at about 8-10% a day as well.
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I love when I see other people that "get it" when it comes to Android app development vs. iOS app development. I'm constantly trying to explain to iFans and even some Android fans that in android you don't need multiple apps to cover phones, tablets, and now even TVs. But with iOS you do.
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Sorry but I disagree... For example, take Twitter on Nexus 7 vs iPad.. Please don't tell me it's better on Android:
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Sorry but I disagree... For example, take Twitter on Nexus 7 vs iPad.. Please don't tell me it's better on Android:
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You disagree because you (apparently) don't understand what I or the person I was responding to are actually saying... We are talking about app development, not comparing one Android app to one iOS app. What we are talking about is on a far larger scope. If devs don't restrict themselves to SDKs older than 2.3 apps can be written to display and work perfectly on multiple screen sizes without needing to be "stretched out" but instead have their own discrete set of UI elements/layouts, etc based on the screen size. In other words, a new version of Twitter than basically forgoes old versions of Android could be made to work like the "phone" version you see on the N7 AND work like the "tablet" version you see on the iPad, but in the same apk. This is probably where Android's infamous "fragmentation" issue really lies. Supporting legacy versions of Android. In the case of your Twitter app, it supports all the way back to 1.5 right? So of course it will be little more than a stretched out small screen app.
Does that make more sense?
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You disagree because you (apparently) don't understand what I or the person I was responding to are actually saying... We are talking about app development, not comparing one Android app to one iOS app. What we are talking about is on a far larger scope. If devs don't restrict themselves to SDKs older than 2.3 apps can be written to display and work perfectly on multiple screen sizes without needing to be "stretched out" but instead have their own discrete set of UI elements/layouts, etc based on the screen size. In other words, a new version of Twitter than basically forgoes old versions of Android could be made to work like the "phone" version you see on the N7 AND work like the "tablet" version you see on the iPad, but in the same apk. This is probably where Android's infamous "fragmentation" issue really lies. Supporting legacy versions of Android. In the case of your Twitter app, it supports all the way back to 1.5 right? So of course it will be little more than a stretched out small screen app.
Does that make more sense?
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Yep! Thanks.
Greater review! Agree with most of the stuff u written.
My Brother, is an iPhone guy, mainly for it's smaller size, says he wants to go Android, he really likes the Nexus or Galaxy S3 phones, but says they are way too large, and is a big turn off to a lot of people. And also says the home button on bottom front of the iPhone, is a very important feature to have, you can turn the phone on with one finger while sitting on the desk, to check things. He said most Android phones you need to press the side button to turn on, and while phone is sitting on the desk, that is really a two hand operation.
The big thing he said, which I LOL'd big time, he said will make a $50 money bet right now on this statement; "By the end of 2014, all top end Android phones like the Nexus 6 and Galaxy S5, will realize they have gotten way too large, and will go back down to the proper size and width of the iPhone 4." He didn't say or expect screen size, but said the WIDTH, he said by end of 2014 top Android phones will go down to iPhone 4 WIDTH. He knows the screen size will always be larger on Android compared to the iPhone, but says they are mainly way too wide, and will shrink the width by end next year.
My opinion is that NO WAY will this happen, Android phones in 2013 will be larger than their previous 2012 version. Of course they will reach a point to stop growing in size, can't keep getting bigger year after year, but NO WAY do I see them going backwards to iPhone 4 WIDTH by end of 2014.
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I would take that bet without even thinking. All signs point to the phones staying this large size. Personally my g/f and I will never be able to go back to anything the size iPhone 4 after using the S3 and Note 2. My g/f is 5 feet so she's pretty small, and not once has she complained about her S3 being too big to operate with one hand. She's currently eyeing my Note 2 and waiting to see what the S4 is going to hold.
I would even be willing to bet that by 2014 the iPhone 6 or 6s will have a larger screen probably 4"+ at the very least.
I personally like my Nexus size @ 4.7", it's not too large like the Note 2, and not small like like the iPhone 5.
I had the Galaxy Nexus too, and now the Nexus 4, I find this size very comfortable, just right.
He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/
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He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/
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Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"
My brother says swimming in a lake is like swimming in a pond or pool..
Typical iPhone user set in their ways androids will always vairey that's the biggest benefit of android not being tied to one spec or size.I owned an iPhone but when I complained regarding signal I received email telling me I was holding my phone incorrectly lost faith in it,which to this day you still see people holding them that way which I think a lot of younger people don't even realise how that came about and personally I find funny as was Apple's answer to gaining a decent connection.
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Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"
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He's got a good point. That's been an annoyance on Android that's never been resolved. On the Nexus One at least there was a trackball which you could use to move the curser to the end of the line of text, but no Android phones have that ability currently.
It's definitely a problem that's long overdue for a fix.
Of course, with the Apple method as you've just described it, if you wanted to edit somewhere in the middle of the line the curser is going to jump to the end and you'd have to delete back to where you want to edit.
But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?
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But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?
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Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.
I suppose he believes there's only 2 Android Phones? Because the S3 Mini is a lot smaller.
One of the main reasons most people (those 82% of the market, in fact.) don't want an iPhone is the tiny screen... Well, that and the lack of customisation.
Also, this home button thing. There's apps for putting a phone to sleep, and you can wake an SGS up with the.. ohhh, big button on the front!
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You do. I believe there's some sort of loop-feature thing that somehow pops up, but I couldn't find it. Spend half an hour figuring out how change 1 letter in the beginning of a 2 page document on an iPhone 5. It's impossible.
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Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.
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As I was typing that I thought it may have only come into play with ICS. I forget how much of a jump there was from GB to now, having had "nearly" Jelly Bean for a while and then proper Jelly Bean on both my phone and tablet. It's bizarre to think there are phones still being sold with pre-Gingerbread versions on them.
Let's face it, for 99% of users they don't give a toss about the platform. They just want to know what apps are available. Most people (I believe) want a bigger screen, but not too big. Comfortably big, but thin. That's the way of things at the moment. I remember getting my S2 and thinking it was big, but now it looks like a regular phone compared to some of the phones out there. I really don't see why Apple don't make 3 or 4 different models of each iPhone. They could just make them different sizes (same resolution, to save the OS changes). They may have a big brand, but they could have a much bigger one if they just took their fingers out of their ears and started to listen to the rest of the market.
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Tell ur brother he can take his narrow iphone 4 nd ...... it smwhere he cant fit large sizes unlike his ridiculously big mouth!
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Raymond199483 said:
Tell your brother that apple sucks compared to android
Nuff said
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Now...now...settle down.
I believe it's a circular dilemma for phone\device makers.
Phones approaching tablet size then tablets reclining into phone size.
Wireless mobile of course started off huge moved to tiny (early Ericsson cellphones) now sizes are yet to stabilize.
Boils down to what fits flat against your hip.
You're bros high man.
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In my opinion the nexus 4 and the HTC one have prefect screen sizes- 4.7 inches. Not too big and not too small. Note 2 and the Xperia z are way too big for my liking
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4.3-4.7 is the perfect screen size. Even the recently launched SG Grand is 5". Bummer. S3 Mini would have been a better release, and I'm quite sure Samsung won't release it here because they can affect each others sales.
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Most people (I believe) want ... Comfortably big, but thin.
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Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean
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Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean
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I was one of the people who blew off the S4 as an unimaginative incremental upgrade that would sell like hotcakes to fanboys. Words I find ironic now holding the S4 in my hand. I think the turning point for me came when I was watching a Netflix movie on my HTC one. It was a dark room and the light from my One was entirely too bright so I tapped the screen and pulled down the notification bar to quickly change the brightness...No brightness adjustment. Just a check-box to activate Power Save Mode. So to adjust the brightness I hit the setting button, went into display, and made the change. Reopening the Netflix app, I re-clicked on the movie, it buffered and continued where I left off. Now it was a little too dark...Rinse and repeat. This was about as unintuitive as it gets. I realized at this point I was missing some pretty fundamental options I had grown accustomed to coming from the Galaxy S3. Quick settings aside, the lack of a menu button was becoming more and more of an issue as well. With larger screens it is an annoyance to continually have to reach to the top of a screen to pull down the notification shade and then tap settings in the far upper right, or when in an app to have a quarter inch of my nice 1080p HD display go missing so I can see three small dots indicating click here for Menu. I did my best to enjoy the time I had left with my trophy wife of a phone. But, upon receiving the S4 I was pleasantly surprised, I actually loved the design. It just feels good in the hand. I can honestly say at the end of the day I prefer Samsung's understated design over that of the HTC One. The build feels seamless and is light and thin. The S4 for all it's cheapness in material was a solidly built uniform device. Armed with Quick access to all of of my settings AND a Menu button I finally feel at home. I love the S4. For me it's like not having to give up the S3 I loved while gaining a boost in performance and screen.
In the end this is more of a comparative review between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4, but since that is the question most android buyers will be facing until the next great phone is announced - Here's my $.02 worth. Guess I'm officialy a fanboy now.
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I was one of the people who blew off the S4 as an unimaginative incremental upgrade that would sell like hotcakes to fanboys. Words I find ironic now holding the S4 in my hand. I think the turning point for me came when I was watching a Netflix movie on my HTC one. It was a dark room and the light from my One was entirely too bright so I tapped the screen and pulled down the notification bar to quickly change the brightness...No brightness adjustment. Just a check-box to activate Power Save Mode. So to adjust the brightness I hit the setting button, went into display, and made the change. Reopening the Netflix app, I re-clicked on the movie, it buffered and continued where I left off. Now it was a little too dark...Rinse and repeat. This was about as unintuitive as it gets. I realized at this point I was missing some pretty fundamental options I had grown accustomed to coming from the Galaxy S3. Quick settings aside, the lack of a menu button was becoming more and more of an issue as well. With larger screens it is an annoyance to continually have to reach to the top of a screen to pull down the notification shade and then tap settings in the far upper right, or when in an app to have a quarter inch of my nice 1080p HD display go missing so I can see three small dots indicating click here for Menu. I did my best to enjoy the time I had left with my trophy wife of a phone. But, upon receiving the S4 I was pleasantly surprised, I actually loved the design. It just feels good in the hand. I can honestly say at the end of the day I prefer Samsung's understated design over that of the HTC One. The build feels seamless and is light and thin. The S4 for all it's cheapness in material was a solidly built uniform device. Armed with Quick access to all of of my settings AND a Menu button I finally feel at home. I love the S4. For me it's like not having to give up the S3 I loved while gaining a boost in performance and screen.
In the end this is more of a comparative review between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4, but since that is the question most android buyers will be facing until the next great phone is announced - Here's my $.02 worth. Guess I'm officialy a fanboy now.
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This is my first smartphone. . ever! Ok, I have a nexus 7, but that is different. Needless to say, I'm completely in love with this s4. I was seriously considering the one, but I'm more than happy with this. Honestly, you really can't lose with either device. .
Cool story bro, but a lot of the stuff you described as not liking are already corrected with simple flashing of mods.
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This is my first smartphone. . ever! Ok, I have a nexus 7, but that is different. Needless to say, I'm completely in love with this s4. I was seriously considering the one, but I'm more than happy with this. Honestly, you really can't lose with either device. .
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I was also a GS3 owner. I tried the HTC One also but returned it. I picked up the GS4 yesterday and I love it.
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shook187 said:
Cool story bro, but a lot of the stuff you described as not liking are already corrected with simple flashing of mods.
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Cooler story bro, but maybe some people want that kind of functionality out of the box?
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Cool story bro, but a lot of the stuff you described as not liking are already corrected with simple flashing of mods.
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Shook, are you gonna play nice if you come over here lol? What's up buddy?
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everything you mentioned there entirely true :thumbup:
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shook187 said:
Cool story bro, but a lot of the stuff you described as not liking are already corrected with simple flashing of mods.
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Agreed. Only issue being a store can completely refuse to even look at your HTC One if you dev unlocked it. So thats a little bit of a risk(especially since I had to return my first one after the bottom speaker stopped working) But as with any phone it will come down to each persons individual wants and needs. The S4 fits that bill better for me.
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I was one of the people who blew off the S4 as an unimaginative incremental upgrade that would sell like hotcakes to fanboys. Words I find ironic now holding the S4 in my hand. I think the turning point for me came when I was watching a Netflix movie on my HTC one. It was a dark room and the light from my One was entirely too bright so I tapped the screen and pulled down the notification bar to quickly change the brightness...No brightness adjustment. Just a check-box to activate Power Save Mode. So to adjust the brightness I hit the setting button, went into display, and made the change. Reopening the Netflix app, I re-clicked on the movie, it buffered and continued where I left off. Now it was a little too dark...Rinse and repeat. This was about as unintuitive as it gets. I realized at this point I was missing some pretty fundamental options I had grown accustomed to coming from the Galaxy S3. Quick settings aside, the lack of a menu button was becoming more and more of an issue as well. With larger screens it is an annoyance to continually have to reach to the top of a screen to pull down the notification shade and then tap settings in the far upper right, or when in an app to have a quarter inch of my nice 1080p HD display go missing so I can see three small dots indicating click here for Menu. I did my best to enjoy the time I had left with my trophy wife of a phone. But, upon receiving the S4 I was pleasantly surprised, I actually loved the design. It just feels good in the hand. I can honestly say at the end of the day I prefer Samsung's understated design over that of the HTC One. The build feels seamless and is light and thin. The S4 for all it's cheapness in material was a solidly built uniform device. Armed with Quick access to all of of my settings AND a Menu button I finally feel at home. I love the S4. For me it's like not having to give up the S3 I loved while gaining a boost in performance and screen.
In the end this is more of a comparative review between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4, but since that is the question most android buyers will be facing until the next great phone is announced - Here's my $.02 worth. Guess I'm officialy a fanboy now.
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I swear if I was gonna do a write up (because I also came from the HTC One) this would be almost EXACTLY what I would of said!!!
I've always had issues with HTC devices over time. My GS2 lasted the full 2 years of my contract without feeling horribly outdated. The ONLY thing I liked about the One was the front speakers, but the GS4 overpowers it in every other category. Was a no brainer for me
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I swear if I was gonna do a write up (because I also came from the HTC One) this would be almost EXACTLY what I would of said!!!
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Thanks. I was surprised no tech sites really talk about these issues. I think deep down they are all just really rooting for the underdog last ditch effort (albeit a good one) that HTC has thrown out to compete with the S4.
I just couldn't live with the lower contrast ratio of the htc one
I love the deep blacks
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Is this what the issue was. My One is not rooted. Simple app for that.
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I really liked the HTC One but was to small for my mits. SG4 seems just right.
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Thank God other people feel this way not just me...I had gs3 and now I have this one and I'm returning it Monday, I can't wait. Everything you said about the functionality of the HTC sense is correct to me. Anyways this is what I would have wrote, I've just become accustomed to Samsung's features after being with them for 3 years...it was nice HTC! (Not really tho...)
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Is this what the issue was. My One is not rooted. Simple app for that. View attachment 1933904
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What's the name of that app?
shook187 said:
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You forget. Not everybody rootd there phones and flashes ROMs. Sometimes people on xda seem to forget we are only a very small percent of smartphone customers
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Is this what the issue was. My One is not rooted. Simple app for that. View attachment 1933904
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That's an OK workaround although you have to have a persistent notification in the corner and the GPS toggle isn't a toggle but a shortcut unless you put that as a system app
I love this thread because I too switched my phone from an HTC one.
I got it from HTC just had to trade in my phone (I work at a sprint store) and it really grew on me to the point where i loved it. That screen is amazing and I didn't worry about the menu bar cuz I rooted the phone anyway.
I couldn't get away from the non removable battery though. Have had pretty much every Samsung galaxy and nexus on sprint and I got used to the convenience of carrying a spare battery
So I traded it for this and I love that I feel like I never really gave away my s3. I just upgraded the hardware. This camera is just ridiculous also
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cool , but not everybody rootd there phones and flashes ROMs
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cool , but not everybody rootd there phones and flashes ROMs
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That's been noted.
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Everyone knows I love my Note II, quad core with dedicated GPU on a 5.5 inch 720p screen. But when the galaxy gear smart watch came out it wasn't (and still isn't officially) compatible with anything but the Note III. I decided to see if I could get it to work.
After some digging I found the .apk for the galaxy gear watch manager for the note III and low and behold it installs just fine on my Note 2:
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It's not totally 100% compatible, some things I still have to work on, but it does sync contacts, take photos, show the time etc.
If you have a Samsung galaxy device and wish to get the gear, feel free to try the APK I found:
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So I was able to update my adb sideload program I always used to use and install standard .apk files after enabling usb debug:
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Here's some video of me tooling around in minecraft PE:
I didn't keep minecraft on the watch but I wanted to see if the watch could handle it.
Thus far I've installed a small calculator, and an uninstalling application to remove things I don't want to keep. I've also tried other launchers like Nova. Nova worked fine except you can't load widgets and there is no clock on the top right so the device is useless as a watch. I'll be sticking with the standard touchwiz launcher as it has a working app drawer.
I've taken the standard launcher and taken all the home screens out except for time, app drawer, and notifications so it's much more stream lined and I can get to all my apps with just one swipe. The question is, what apps do you think would be good additions to my wrist aside from calc, schedule, phone, and time? .apk links would be great too.
You can't use any apps the require a data connection as the device doesn't have wifi. I tried using pdanet tablet edition & foxfi between this and my phone via Bluetooth but it force closes unfortunately.
Can you get notifications, and which?
Still trying to figre that out. When I go into the gear manager on the phone and click "samsung apps" the manager freezes and I have to force close it.
What I can do right now is make calls, take photos / video, see my call log, tell the time. I can also see upcomming events.
I need to find a copy of the note III's s-voice to be more compatible. Anyone have an .apk? I'm not sure if it's the exact same as the s4's
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I've done a lot of reading on the gear. It's not worth it at the moment, especially since the CEO himself said the gear is lacking a little "something extra." Also, due to this, they have already started working on the gear 2. Mainly, Samsung knows they screwed up big time and Apple and Google will most likely produce something better. Your meta watch and my pebble are still better at the moment. The problem is battery life is terrible. All notifications from apps other than stock email and messaging show nothing but a notification icon with a number. You have to open up even gmail on your phone because it will not display on the gear. The metawatch and pebble showed all this from day 1 and even improved with each update. Every big tech review site has given the same statement. It looks great but fails everywhere else. Maybe if it was $100, it would be a decent accessory to have until something better comes out. However, $300 is a complete waste for a subpar overly hyped product. I wanted this device, but glad I read all the reviews. Samsung is retarded also for making it only compatible with the note 3 on release. A very stupid and limited form of marketing that will only hinder their progress. Anyway, if anyone bought it, good for you. Trust me it's better to wait as mentioned in many reviews of this device. Then again, it's smart marketing in one way because people will buy it for the cool factor, and then they will upgrade to the gear 2 because it's better. Same concept on cars. Mercedes has this trick with the E class. They've already got a 6-10 year outline of the horsepower and design of each future car. That's why it's the most changed and most bought Mercedes. Think about it before you fall for the gear.
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Still trying to figre that out. When I go into the gear manager on the phone and click "samsung apps" the manager freezes and I have to force close it.
What I can do right now is make calls, take photos / video, see my call log, tell the time. I can also see upcomming events.
I need to find a copy of the note III's s-voice to be more compatible. Anyone have an .apk? I'm not sure if it's the exact same as the s4's
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When you take photos and videos, does it get stored on local memory only, or can you transfer it to phone memory (select saving destination to N2)?
Dont believe everything you read.The gear is a perfect companion watch for the note 3 and from the post above its not bad on the note 2 and it's not even officially supported for that phone.The reviewers have really got this one wrong I have had it a week and it gets better every day
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hhadrian said:
Dont believe everything you read.The gear is a perfect companion watch for the note 3 and from the post above its not bad on the note 2 and it's not even officially supported for that phone.The reviewers have really got this one wrong I have had it a week and it gets better every day
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Is this your first smart watch? Btw, the gear isn't even waterproof - huge fail. So, the minute you forget it's on your wrist and it's raining or you wash your hands a little past your wrist, you're screwed
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Is this your first smart watch? Btw, the gear isn't even waterproof - huge fail. So, the minute you forget it's on your wrist and it's raining or you wash your hands a little past your wrist, you're screwed
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Plus most of all it costs $300...ridiculous imo
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Plus most of all it costs $300...ridiculous imo
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Agreed...and there are many top tech websites and comments by people like us on xda that agree with you, lol.
T-Mobile already sells it at 25% discount, but I think you have to buy it with N3. Yeah, unfortunately Samsung rushed into this one. It has potential since its based on modified Android 4.2 OS (or whatever 4.x), which means it will get hacked and modified at some point. But the price point of $300 is too high to make it mainstream now. Remember what happened to original Sony SW? Nobody cared about it until they dropped the price to $99 and opened SDK. Boom! It became affordable and open for XDA community to jump in with new app development and support. But with Gear, no matter rootable or not, you still will be limited by poor battery life, proprietary charging cradle (imagine forgetting it to take with you before even a 2 day trip?), and bracelet which is not replaceable and kind of flimsy looking with that camera sticking out asking to be bumped.
About a month ago if someone would have asked me what smart watch to buy at the current moment, I would suggest Pebble only (because of it being mainstream with developers support). Today, this answer would be Sony SW2 because of all the improvements (watersplash resistant, easily accessible standard micro-usb, great touch display where watch face can stay on permanently and you still get a decent multi-day battery life). My personal fav right now is Omate. Don't care about stand-alone phone (will never use it), but the whole idea of portable android device fully waterproof with a camera, micro-sd, and 600 mAh battery, and already released SDK ahead of official availability (and XDA developers already working on it now) - that intrigues me a lot!
Yes the Omate is certainly the most interesting at the moment with full Android 4.2. My only gripe with it is how thick it is. I really don't see me wearing a watch that size at the moment. Maybe in a few years I'll be saying it's too small but right now the SW2 is the largest I'll go.
The SW2 is sleek and does what I need which is be a companion to my phone, allowing me to leave my phone in my pocket a bit more especially with where I'm living at the moment :/. If Google (or anyone else) doesn't beat it by December, the SW2 will be my next gift to myself.
I've enjoyed the watch so far, even it being in my possession for less than 12 hours I'm still having fun with it. I very rarely make expensive purchases on a whim and although I did read a ton of reviews I wanted this watch more for my own curiosity more than anything.
My friends helped kickstart the pebble and if I would have known about it I too would have been on that bandwagon. So far the picture quality has been great, I've yet to take any videos however I can tell you that you can transfer the files from the watch to the phone seamlesly. I belive it does it for you after awhile or you can push them. I took some shots of my parent's dog I was watching today and the photos looks pretty good, especially on this small screen.
I like the fact that I can use multi-touch things like pinch-zoom etc. The audio controls are nice and when 4.3 comes out for the note II there will be even more things I should be able to do with this device. Samsung did say that the marketplace for this device will be open for app devs to make things for it specifically, and it can have a dozen or so apps installed at once.
Great feedback from everyone. I agree that the Sony Smart Watch 2 seems to be the best new option currently. It delivers on battery life, is splash resistant, can open and read notifications, esp with the notification pull down, and has the ability to see multiple apps on each screen similar to android phones and the Omate interface. It's definitely an improvement for the current smartwatch genre. It's actually also thinner than the Gear despite being boxier. I do like the Omate and the Neptune Pine, but they seem way too bulky and geared towards being stand alone devices despite Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity for use with smartphones. I just hope Google does one better.
The gear is the worst deal lol. A waste of $300
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Still trying to figre that out. When I go into the gear manager on the phone and click "samsung apps" the manager freezes and I have to force close it.
What I can do right now is make calls, take photos / video, see my call log, tell the time. I can also see upcomming events.
I need to find a copy of the note III's s-voice to be more compatible. Anyone have an .apk? I'm not sure if it's the exact same as the s4's
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Note3 s voice apk can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45948394
Hit my "THANKS" button! Come on, you can do it!
I'm going to try loading side-loading apps using the usb debug:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...real-apps-running-on-the-samsung-galaxy-gear/
Thanks premiatul however I tried that version of s-voice and it is only the BETA (as listed in it's info page) so it won't sync. It looks like I need one taken directly from the note 3 via root or something.
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I'm going to try loading side-loading apps using the usb debug:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...real-apps-running-on-the-samsung-galaxy-gear/
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Can you try to side load gmail and see if you get emails? I saw that video and dolphin browser won't work due to requiring data connection. I assume gmail would also need data. Thanks!
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I'm going to try loading side-loading apps using the usb debug:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...real-apps-running-on-the-samsung-galaxy-gear/
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So I was able to update my adb sideload program I always used to use and install standard .apk files:
http://briananim.kicks-ass.net:9000/ftp/droidapps/sideload_apps.zip
Here's some video of me tooling around in minecraft PE:
I didn't keep minecraft on the watch but I wanted to see if the watch could handle it.
Thus far I've installed a small calculator, and an uninstalling application to remove things I don't want to keep. I've also tried other launchers like Nova. Nova worked fine except you can't load widgets and there is no clock on the top right so the device is useless as a watch. I'll be sticking with the standard touchwiz launcher as it has a working app drawer.
I've taken the standard launcher and taken all the home screens out except for time, app drawer, and notifications so it's much more stream lined and I can get to all my apps with just one swipe. The question is, what apps do you think would be good additions to my wrist aside from calc, schedule, phone, and time? .apk links would be great too.
You can't use any apps the require a data connection as the device doesn't have wifi. I tried using pdanet tablet edition & foxfi between this and my phone via Bluetooth but it force closes unfortunately.
Thanks for the update bro. This thread right here is a big turn off about the Gear. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477441
I run with my pebble and sweat a lot. Pebble is totally waterproof even in the shower. That's really pathetic on Samsung's part. They clearly didn't do enough testing.
New Nexus 6 user here...
I'll get right to the point. Why is this thing a slug? Out of the box it feels slow, rips through battery, etc. Listening to Pandora and turning the phone causing the display to switch from portrait to landscape causes the music to stop for 1/2 second! Ridiculous!
I figured rooting/unlocking and flashing custom roms would fix it.
Decrypting did not do anything.
Some apps freeze or run like crap.
Really disappointed in this.
I have a Note 4 and it smokes it. These are nearly identical hardware wise and I'm disappointed.
Been through numerous formats, image restores, CM encrypting and formatting to remove, blah! It's really getting annoying.
I use and rely on an app called Radarscope for skywarn and it's basically unusuable on this phone. Panning/scrolling is so choppy (like seconds per frame!) that's un-usable. Is this a lollipop issue?
I know there's no goodies like Wanam, etc. because xposed runs on dalvik only. So what's the point of running such a buggy and unsupported OS?
Or is there something underlying that I'm missing / doing wrong here?
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New Nexus 6 user here...
I'll get right to the point. Why is this thing a slug? Out of the box it feels slow, rips through battery, etc. Listening to Pandora and turning the phone causing the display to switch from portrait to landscape causes the music to stop for 1/2 second! Ridiculous!
I figured rooting/unlocking and flashing custom roms would fix it.
Decrypting did not do anything.
Some apps freeze or run like crap.
Really disappointed in this.
I have a Note 4 and it smokes it. These are nearly identical hardware wise and I'm disappointed.
Been through numerous formats, image restores, CM encrypting and formatting to remove, blah! It's really getting annoying.
I use and rely on an app called Radarscope for skywarn and it's basically unusuable on this phone. Panning/scrolling is so choppy (like seconds per frame!) that's un-usable. Is this a lollipop issue?
I know there's no goodies like Wanam, etc. because xposed runs on dalvik only. So what's the point of running such a buggy and unsupported OS?
Or is there something underlying that I'm missing / doing wrong here?
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my nexus 6 is perfect, and fast as heck! what you can do is set your device up differently(as you can slow your device down by setting it up lousy), or root your device and set up your cpu differently. and, btw, decrypting it does nothing for performance. my n6 is still encrypted, and one of the fastest n6 around.
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my nexus 6 is perfect, and fast as heck! what you can do is set your device up differently(as you can slow your device down by setting it up lousy), or root your device and set up your cpu differently. and, btw, decrypting it does nothing for performance. my n6 is still encrypted, and one of the fastest n6 around.
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It has been wiped, rooted, just as I've set dozens of Android devices up in the past.
There's just something not right about this phone!
I mean, sure if you just flip through the built in stuff, it feels snappy and all but some programs I use feel slow like moving arms through water slow.
And yes, encryption kills storage i/o and is very apparent with some things, it should be optional not required. Or at least done in hardware with less footprint on storage performance.
I'd say try the app called radarscope but it's not free. This is the only time I've ever had an issue with this app. I'm thinking it's the OS (5.02) but since I cannot run 4.4.4 on this device, no proof. Radarscope will run on an iphone 3G and the scrolling is far better.
And for benchmarks, how about 39K on Antutu? And that's with the performance setting in CM12!
My Note 4 even out of the box was much quicker feeling.
When I set it up initially I chose to restore from Google Play (92 apps) and it took far longer than any other phone to actually install them. This is with a wifi connection (5GHz AC) that gets 150 up/down consistently with a 3ms ping so that's not it. I figured encryption killing i/o would slow down this and didn't really care.
Oh and stock battery life is poor.
35% to 11% in 45 minutes riding in the car with Pandora streaming. Ugh.
If the droid turbo had an unlocked bootloader...
Sigh
Maybe it's defective?
Do these have a high defect count?
And really nitpicking, there's a place for earbuds in the box but they did not include them. For $650 they should have! (But I don't care since I don't even use them but principle...)
Sell it
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It has been wiped, rooted, just as I've set dozens of Android devices up in the past.
There's just something not right about this phone!
I mean, sure if you just flip through the built in stuff, it feels snappy and all but some programs I use feel slow like moving arms through water slow.
And yes, encryption kills storage i/o and is very apparent with some things, it should be optional not required. Or at least done in hardware with less footprint on storage performance.
I'd say try the app called radarscope but it's not free. This is the only time I've ever had an issue with this app. I'm thinking it's the OS (5.02) but since I cannot run 4.4.4 on this device, no proof. Radarscope will run on an iphone 3G and the scrolling is far better.
And for benchmarks, how about 39K on Antutu? And that's with the performance setting in CM12!
My Note 4 even out of the box was much quicker feeling.
When I set it up initially I chose to restore from Google Play (92 apps) and it took far longer than any other phone to actually install them. This is with a wifi connection (5GHz AC) that gets 150 up/down consistently with a 3ms ping so that's not it. I figured encryption killing i/o would slow down this and didn't really care.
Oh and stock battery life is poor.
35% to 11% in 45 minutes riding in the car with Pandora streaming. Ugh.
If the droid turbo had an unlocked bootloader...
Sigh
Maybe it's defective?
Do these have a high defect count?
And really nitpicking, there's a place for earbuds in the box but they did not include them. For $650 they should have! (But I don't care since I don't even use them but principle...)
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cm is NOT known for performance. and the performance governor is the worst governor for performance(irony is in its name). i use ondemand/deadline, and get 58000+ on antutu while im still encrypted, running on a simple aosp rom. and, on top of that, i see 5.5-7 hours sot, running at 3033mhz/300mhz every day. yours being defective? thats a possibility.
cpufrost said:
New Nexus 6 user here...
Listening to Pandora and turning the phone causing the display to switch from portrait to landscape causes the music to stop for 1/2 second! Ridiculous!
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This is due to the left and right audio channels swapping when the device is rotated. You'll notice the cut out only occurs if the device is rotated clockwise.
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I'm running stock decrypted with franco r11 and it's fast as hell with 2 day battery life. No complaints here. You must have something setup wrong.
My brother has the note 4 and that thing lags in TouchWiz like crazy. My n6 doesn't act like his note 4.
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This is due to the left and right audio channels swapping when the device is rotated. You'll notice the cut out only occurs if the device is rotated clockwise.
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I'm running stock decrypted with franco r11 and it's fast as hell with 2 day battery life. No complaints here. You must have something setup wrong.
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Well that makes sense (the audio swap)...
I sold my M8 and replaced it with this device. I was running Viper 3.21 and it was super fast (upper 40's Antutu, 28K Quadrant) and no lag. iOS smooth!
Didn't think the bar would be so high with a nearly year old device.
I know the 805 can handle 1440 res because the Note 4 does with no problem.
They all will lag from time to time.
But a flagship device should not skip and jump when playing games like smacky cars and white tiles. The G3 did and got hot.
One thing I can say is this device runs cool. The CPU temp has never gone over 36C in TWRP when working. My Note 4 hits 67C when flashing roms in TWRP and feels hot. It also overclocks poorly as in +100MHz = reboots with any game. I may have to crack it open and check for faulty TIM application but otherwise at stock clocks does fine. It hits 47K Antutu / 25K Quadrant. Speaking of Quadrant it's hard to break 14K on the N6 but (again) it's an old benchmark and 5.0 may be the reason. It feels faster than 14K because my Note II gets that...
But there's lots of roms and options and that's why I tried this device in the first place. It feels and reminds me a lot of the G3 because of the smaller bezel space.
I wish there were more options for better icons for signal/wifi/battery. The stock ones are flat. CM themes are awesome so far but someone mentioned their performance is subpar and it seems to be the case here.
I will write the dev of radarscope to see what's up. A lot of weather nerds are also phone nerds so someone else has to notice this. It's bad, imagine buying a Ferarri that had a governor set at 25mph. You'd flip out too!
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This is definitely not an Android issue. That is an application problem. On rotate it is killing the process responsible for playback.
I figured rooting/unlocking and flashing custom roms would fix it.
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Why do you figure that?
Decrypting did not do anything.
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Somehow, I doubt that you actually decrypted anything. More likely you disabled forced encryption and wiped, allowing you to run UN-encrypted. Decryption is the process of CONVERTING encrypted data into un-encrypted data.
Some apps freeze or run like crap.
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I can write a program in ONE MINUTE that will absolutely murder the performance of ANY phone it runs on. Congrats, you just learned the difference between kiddy-coding and competent code written by people who actually paid attention during first year computer science.
I have a Note 4 and it smokes it. These are nearly identical hardware wise and I'm disappointed.
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Yes, but Note4 is running Android 4.4, which uses DALVIK VM. Nexus 6 runs Android RunTime ("ART"). That means that there are VAST differences in the code optimization techniques used, so where kiddy code ran *acceptably* on 4.4, the same kiddy code turns to hell on 5.0. Too bad your programs weren't written by competent people, because if it was, it would *already* run well.
Been through numerous formats, image restores, CM encrypting and formatting to remove, blah! It's really getting annoying.
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So quit wasting your time messing with things that are NOT responsible, and switch to well written software.
I use and rely on an app called Radarscope for skywarn and it's basically unusuable on this phone. Panning/scrolling is so choppy (like seconds per frame!) that's un-usable. Is this a lollipop issue?
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That is a KIDDY CODING problem. Contact the software vendor and complain.
I know there's no goodies like Wanam, etc. because xposed runs on dalvik only. So what's the point of running such a buggy and unsupported OS?
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Like I said, different optimization techniques are bringing out the badness in the software you are running.
It has been wiped, rooted, just as I've set dozens of Android devices up in the past.
There's just something not right about this phone!
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The phone is fine. You're running crappy software.
I mean, sure if you just flip through the built in stuff, it feels snappy and all but some programs I use feel slow like moving arms through water slow.
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So quit running bad software and/or complain to the vendor that their software is slow and buggy. Its not the phone, its not the OS, its the software.
And yes, encryption kills storage i/o and is very apparent with some things, it should be optional not required. Or at least done in hardware with less footprint on storage performance.
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The hardware crypto code was not released by qualcomm on time for the hardware to ship. It may be added to a later update.
And for benchmarks, how about 39K on Antutu? And that's with the performance setting in CM12!
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Try factory. CM is a bloated buggy slow hog.
When I set it up initially I chose to restore from Google Play (92 apps) and it took far longer than any other phone to actually install them. This is with a wifi connection (5GHz AC) that gets 150 up/down consistently with a 3ms ping so that's not it. I figured encryption killing i/o would slow down this and didn't really care.
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Crypto.
Oh and stock battery life is poor. 35% to 11% in 45 minutes riding in the car with Pandora streaming. Ugh.
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CM is a bloated hog, and we've already established that pandora is kiddy-coded.
If the droid turbo had an unlocked bootloader...
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Moto Maxx is the unlocked bootloader of the droid turbo, you can import them from Mexico.
But FYI: internally, they and Nexus 6 are *the same*.
Maybe it's defective? Do these have a high defect count?
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Nope. There is no known hardware defect that would cause kiddy-coded software to exert itself like that.
And really nitpicking, there's a place for earbuds in the box but they did not include them. For $650 they should have! (But I don't care since I don't even use them but principle...)
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Probably because NOBODY uses them.
simms22 said:
cm is NOT known for performance. and the performance governor is the worst governor for performance(irony is in its name). i use ondemand/deadline, and get 58000+ on antutu while im still encrypted, running on a simple aosp rom. and, on top of that, i see 5.5-7 hours sot, running at 3033mhz/300mhz every day. yours being defective? thats a possibility.
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That.
The device was verified running un-encrypted. The update from CM actually encrypted it again. I'm leaving it encrypted for now as to remove it requires formatting and losing everything on internal storage. Gee, would not be an issue if there was an external SD card. At least HTC did it right with a slot, on a device this big you would think they would have too.
I will say that copying from my laptop (which is usb 3.0) to the internal storage is quite speedy. Have to see how fast 5GHz AC is via airdroid. I know the G3 hit 20MB/S over their air which was very decent.
I'm running AOSP and it's better for sure (51K Antutu). Now to find a kernel and tweaker (have both paid versions from kt and faux) and o/c this cpu to 3GHz. Stopped OC for the past month because my N4 just doesn't do it.
But the problem with Radarscope exists and I will definitely contact the developer.
I will try a lollipop rom and see if it that indeed is the issue.
If so I will probably just get rid of the N6 and keep my Note 4 on KitKat until L becomes more mature and supporting things we like to run. Honestly 4.4.4 is quite nice and I see zero advantages of using L right now. It reminds me when Vista came out and everyone was still using XP. Possibly the next big release will be the next Windows 7.
And for the record, I can stream for *days* on both my iphone 6 plus and note 4 running pandora.
That "test" was pure stock from the ATT store coming home. I know the stock experience can be disappointing but that's pretty sad to be honest.
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But the problem with Radarscope exists and I will definitely contact the developer.
I will try a lollipop rom and see if it that indeed is the issue.
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I use RadarScope on my DROID MAXX (stock 4.4.4, no root) and my Nexus 7 (stock 5.0.2, no root) fine with no problems. I've never had a problem with this app. I don't think this is kiddy coding.
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But the problem with Radarscope exists and I will definitely contact the developer.
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radarscope works perfectly fine on my n6 band lollipop.. im gonna assume the issue is on your end, and not the app. $9.99 for that app, is a bit expensive. i generally use the rainy days app, its free.
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I use RadarScope on my DROID MAXX (stock 4.4.4, no root) and my Nexus 7 (stock 5.0.2, no root) fine with no problems. I've never had a problem with this app. I don't think this is kiddy coding.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have to wonder why it's so bad.
The main issue is pinch zooming and scrolling and with this app you have to do it constantly.
PYKL3 is also acting kind of weird too. Usually it's blazing fast but when zoomed all the way in it feels sluggish like it's getting stuck. I don't use it nearly as much as radarscope but usually (PYKL3) is fast on my other android devices.
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radarscope works perfectly fine on my n6 band lollipop.. im gonna assume the issue is on your end, and not the app. $9.99 for that app, is a bit expensive. i generally use the rainy days app, its free.
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A screen shot does not show the problem though. The problem is panning and zooming. It's incredibly slow and on this device only.
The free apps aren't really suitable for me, I have to be able to use different modes, and dual polarity support, etc.
I will let them know, however. My subscriptions alone for these services I use are hundreds of dollars per year!
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My subscriptions alone for these services I use are hundreds of dollars per year!
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damn!
i get all the info i need from rainy days. you should at least check it out, and it works properly(doesnt pan around slowly).
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damn!
i get all the info i need from rainy days. you should at least check it out, and it works properly(doesnt pan around slowly).
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I've had radarscope since iOS 3 days when I was using a 3GS.
When I tried Android for the first time (Galaxy Tab 10.1) I was disappointed they did not have it (yet). So I used rainy days. It was OK and I recommend it to friends (along with DARXEN which is free).
But the support that radarscope has to be able to use in the palm of your hand is impressive. Amazing how things have come in a few short years. I don't chase any more but I do follow things and when out on the course (golf) or riding the trails, like to keep up on things.
Still waiting for a real time SMS lightning data app. Pinpoint lightning (iOS) was boss but they pretty much abandoned that project. You could literally watch a bolt strike in the pasture and within a few seconds the screen would flash and show a point in the screen that was accurate to under a 100 feet or so.
I'm sure there would be tons of these apps but there's tremendous liability and golfers and boaters would put too much faith in it and that's never a good thing.
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Sell it
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I did!
And why? Because I got a 64GB version from Google Play!
I figured 32GB may be too small if I keep it longer...
Running Euphoria (updated today) and runs good.
No changes from original with some programs but as I've seen on an S5 with 5.02 it's the OS not the device causing issues. No way (yet) around that...
And manual camera app works great on this device. 50iso on a smart phone is nuts! Finally user adjustable focus. Now I don't miss my HTC One M8 at all! (especially 4MP pix!)
Wireless charging on this rocks! Using the TILT charger, it's near perfect and keeps the thing topped off. No more wear and tear on the USB connector. I just ordered the clear UAG case and when I get it I'm going to remove the silver letters so it doesn't read NEXGEN on the back!
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I did!
And why? Because I got a 64GB version from Google Play!
I figured 32GB may be too small if I keep it longer...
Running Euphoria (updated today) and runs good.
No changes from original with some programs but as I've seen on an S5 with 5.02 it's the OS not the device causing issues. No way (yet) around that...
And manual camera app works great on this device. 50iso on a smart phone is nuts! Finally user adjustable focus. Now I don't miss my HTC One M8 at all! (especially 4MP pix!)
Wireless charging on this rocks! Using the TILT charger, it's near perfect and keeps the thing topped off. No more wear and tear on the USB connector. I just ordered the clear UAG case and when I get it I'm going to remove the silver letters so it doesn't read NEXGEN on the back!
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Which silver letters? The built-in "NEXUS" ones? If you don't want to see that, buy a vinyl sticker from slickwraps or dbrand to cover it up, in case you want to sell it later
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Which silver letters? The built-in "NEXUS" ones? If you don't want to see that, buy a vinyl sticker from slickwraps or dbrand to cover it up, in case you want to sell it later
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The UAG letters on the case. Turned upside down it spells GEN. When the case is on the phone the NEX part shows and the US is hidden. The end result is NEXGEN! Removing the stickers on the case will reveal NEXUS and IMO looks better.
I wish UAG would not put the aluminized stickers on the clear version of their cases for this reason. Otherwise, it's a pretty decent case.
And good suggestion on covering up letters. I never deface my phones for that reason, to maximize resell value! :good:
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The UAG letters on the case. Turned upside down it spells GEN. When the case is on the phone the NEX part shows and the US is hidden. The end result is NEXGEN! Removing the stickers on the case will reveal NEXUS and IMO looks better.
I wish UAG would not put the aluminized stickers on the clear version of their cases for this reason. Otherwise, it's a pretty decent case.
And good suggestion on covering up letters. I never deface my phones for that reason, to maximize resell value! :good:
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Ah gotcha