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So I have my Macbook on my local Craigslist, a buy/sell/trade site here in the States. This site has been plagued with an influx of fake people with fake money sending around fake PayPal emails.
Unfortunately, I'm all to familiar with these scams, which all seem to originate from Nigeria. Here's my most recent exchange:
I am interested in this item,is it still available for sale?get back
as soon as possible.
Richie Mo ,
[email protected].
768-098-0981
Thanks.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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Of course, it's a fake number...
Since your number is from Wisconsin, you can look at my eBay listing. I will not ship the product outside of eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476416750&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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THIS IS THE THING TO LOOK OUT FOR: (I was listed below $2000)
Thanks for the urgent response,with a good condition of this item and i am okay with the price,i will like to purchase it for someone ,i will offer you $2100usd and $100usd for the shipping through USPS(EMS) and i cannot make cash for this transactions due to nature of my job as a doctor.Therefore it will be very easy for to make payment for this item via paypal just because registered with them,i will like you to get back to me with your registered paypal email account for the payment of the item.
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I will be willing to use PayPal, but only through the Buy It Now feature of eBay. Follow this link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476610985&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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just give me your paypal id now i will make the payment.thanks
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Why are you so against using eBay?
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ebay is very stressful that is why i decided to buy on craiglist,so i will like you to get back to me with your paypal id for the payment.thanks
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So I decided to have some fun. Already knew it was fake:
My paypal is the same as this email address. I will ship as soon as I can see the money in my account, and have successfully transferred it to my bank account.
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ok,i will make the payment now.thanks
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Dear Sean *********@gmail.com,
You've got a funds of $2,200.00 USD from Richie Mo ([email protected]),
Thanks for using PayPal. To see all the transaction details, log in to your PayPal account.
It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account please follow the new PayPal policy.
Seller
*********@gmail.com, Note to seller
Please get the Item ship out today asap through USPS (EMS).
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Transaction ID: 0TR19308DU070732T
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Macbook Pro 17 inch
$2,100.00 USD 1
$2,100.00 USD
Shipment Fees :
$100.00USD
Total $2,200.00 USD
Issues with this transaction.
This is to inform you that you are required to ship the item to the address above via USPS (EMS) and get back to us with the relevant information which you will be provided at the post office after the package has been shipped, you are requested to email us the tracking number.
As soon as we have received the details from you, we will credit a sum of $2,200.00 USD to your PayPal account.
Below is the address where the buyer like the item ship out to.
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Please note:
We wish to inform you that [email protected] has made the payment of $2,200.00 USD to your account and the money is still in pending and we mandated you to ship the item before your account will be credited with the total sum of $2,200.00 USD.
This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited into your account until the shipment tracking number that will be given to you at the Post Office after you send the package send to us for the verification at our customer care:[email protected] as to secure both the buyer and the seller.
Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited:
All you have to do is to reply directly to this mail with the Tracking # provided at the Post Office Nearest to you.You can get more information on this once the details has been sent to us and verified, you will receive a "CONFIRMATION" E-mail" fromPayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited with $2,200.00 USD .The Transaction will appear in your PayPal account Overview as Richie Mo after the Tracking Number have been verified.
Please understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect both the Buyer and the Seller.We apologize for the inconvenience this might have caused you.
PayPal would be responsible for any loss incurred during the course of this transaction.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
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I bolded the suspicious lines, as these are the "red flags" that I look for (for good reason). Notice the HORRIBLE grammar and spelling. PayPal is a professional company, and they take great care to promote that image. As far as I know, all their emails are computer-generated.
So here's my response to "Richie Mo":
Nice try! It's a shame that you're a scammer, because it's a really nice computer. Those paypal emails are fake, I know for a fact. I am not new to craigslist at all, and I've turned down better fakes than you on the daily. Thank you for giving me a good laugh though!
Die slowly in a fire. Thank you!
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That was all yesterday. I wake up this morning, check my email, and guess who's online in GTalk? This was fun:
me: Hey, hows my favorite scammer today?
Richie: pls who are U?
me: the guy you tried to scam yesterday
Richie: pls am not a scammer
Richie: since you told m,e you are not interested in my transaction again
Richie: i hv cancell the money
me: you sent me FAKE paypal emails. im not stupid
Richie: pls i am not send you anythin. it is frm paypal
me: I know you werent sending me anything, it was fake
Richie: not a scammer
Richie: no
me: lol
Richie: it is real. if you want to deal with me
me: i do
Richie: i can resend the money to you ok
me: lol
me: no
me: I want to get rid of you
me: you are filth
me: scum
Richie: ok. i agree with you
Richie: pls i want to make a friend with you
Richie: you wil help me collect item for US
Richie: deal or not
me: Here's where you're fake: a paypal email will come from [email protected], yours came from @officemail.net
Richie: it base on perc
me: you can buy it on ebay
Richie: leave that
Richie: i want to make a deal with you
me: I want you to send me REAL money, not some fake ass email
Richie: i want to help colect item for US
Richie: pls leave all hat 4 now
Richie: i want u to help me colect item for US
Richie: you will be given a %
Richie: when you collec the money
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I'm fairly certain he was trying to recruit me. Lol.
Sorry, this was pretty long, but I hope you all get a good laugh out of this too (and maybe learn to save your ass one day from the likes of scams)
WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*cks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
jersey_609 said:
WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
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I've been around the block a few times. I've had similar attempts on several different items in the past. One was a man offering more than asked plus $100 for shipping, but to his "daughter in west africa as a missionary". The sale was for a Behringer mixer for DJ-ing.
I hope that I have enlightened you all to the warnings and red flags to look for so this doesn't happen to you.
MacaronyMax said:
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
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eBay, at least in my head, is a safer way to deal with it because there's a third party involved. This all might be an illusion, but he sure seemed to hate the idea.
Diamond_dawg said:
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
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You have no reason to. Leave "Richie" alone lol
chopper the dog said:
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*ucks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
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Too funny! I was thinking of the "They eat the poopoos" accent, so not too far off lol
so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
^^^????????? he didn't steal no money someone was trying to scam him he's not Richie
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so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
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Unfortunately, the attempt was the opposite.
If I had $2200, I'd be partying too hard to visit xda to post this lol
I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
flyboyovyick said:
I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
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Same here, its good to show people it still happens.. Just a shame alot of people do fall for it..
I ALWAYS get those emails every time I post an Ad on Craigslist. I know its a scammer because they always refer to what your selling as an "item" not with "Hey do you still have the evo? Will you take $50 for it?" like the typical low ballers.
Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
hmm..
<sarcasm>I would have done the following (knowing it was a scam...)
I think it may be legal to send bodily fluids and feaces as long as it is packaged in such a way that odours are not emmited, and it doesn't leak.
Get a macbook box, just for fun, use it as my toilet for a day, package it all up properly of course. And send it to that address. Be interesting to see what happens when they did get the USPS tracking number </sarcasm>
I don't like scammers....
I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
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Hahaha yeah i supose it is
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(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Very true lol. That would be very interesting, have a community-driven layer of known scamming addresses to check against.
wow. the nerve of some people.
It did give me a laugh though! I'm glad you knew it was a scammer (although it was pretty obvious)
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I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
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Hehe thats a good idea
Hello,
On august 3rd, I was selling my email adresses on Ebay : [email protected] and [email protected]
I said on the description: READ CAREFULLY, THESE ARE NOT PHONES, BUT EMAIL ADRESSES
Someone bought my item, and paid for it
I woke up this morning and found that the buyer ( 1 and half month later ) ... Opened a dispute on paypal saying he never received the item ? I sent him the password 30mn after the end of the auction.
My point of view is that he didn't read carefully the description and now, thought it was a BlackBerry Torch and now, he wants his money back because of a mistake.
What can I say on the dispute on paypal ?
I have 4 options on Paypal:
Provide Shipping Information
Evidence Other than proof of shipment
Proof that I refunded the money
I will accept liability
Which one should I take since I sent the password vie E-mail ?
Thanks for your help.
Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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Curious.. you sold an email? Hoe much for?
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Also curious, I've been wondering what to do with that box full of old email adresses......
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Someone having business or a fan of Blackberry could use it
What can I do now ?
Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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If you've sold someone free email addresses that are actually the property of someone else (Google and Microsoft in this case) then I LOL at you for the fact that the buyer will possibly get their money back. You didn't deserve it in the first place.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Show Paypal the original ad. If you were aboveboard and the ad clearly stated there was no physical product, just an email address, then the buyer had no basis for dispute.
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The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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IF the transaction is legal, showing a copy of the email with the password should suffice. However, you technically do not own either of those email addresses. They are property of Google and Microsoft and are leased to you for free. I'm not sure you have a legal right to profit from them. Just a thought.
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M2oSa said:
The buyer said that he didn't received the item.
On the dispute, I made a Screen showing an email where I sent the passwords to the buyer.
That should be fine ?
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Basically your get-rich-quick scheme is about to blow up in your face. I think you'll find that ebay are about to do an Inception on you. i.e, the fact that you have violated the Terms and Conditions of both Hotmail and Gmail will mean that you have also violated ebays own T&Cs when you traded those addresses.
I hope i'm wrong, but would you bet the bank on it?
Edit: Don't get me wrong, i admire the entrepreneur spirit, but this is not that different from cybersquatting, and the powers that be NEVER rule in favour of the little guy in those cases.
It's not a " get rich scheme " ...
I created those adresses because I used to be a BBerry User ...
But since I moved to Android, I can sell them because they were mine and I don't need it anymore.
Well, that's not the point. The buyer said he didn't received the passwords but I have an E-mail where I sent the password. I did a screenshot and send it to paypal.
That's works ?
( We are solving it on Paypal.com, not Ebay
Put it this way. You are on the middle of a tightrope, 1000ft above a screaming hoard of greedy lawyers; Google lawyers on one side, Microsoft lawyers on the other. At the far end of the rope are ebay lawyers and behind you is a disgruntled netizen with a pitchfork.
Good luck dude!
Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Well, if we forget about lawyers and stuff like that ....
I sait that it was email adresses ..
I wrote READ CAREFULLY in Red, Bold !
Then, it's his fault, no ?
And I have a proof of delivery ?
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Yeah, it's as airtight as a sieve, but i'm convinced!
Seriously, i wish you luck. It'd be nice if the little guy wins one for a change...and i f*****g hate lawyers!
Q) What do you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean? A) A good start!
Loooool thanks for your help !
Have a nice day
I'm looking to buy a HTC One Developer Edition in Canada. I recently just contacted HTC, and they can't ship to Canada, what bull****. But anyways, where can I find a Developer Edition that will ship to Canada? Cause I don't wanna pay way over $700, cause that's how much it is on HTC's website.
-CyberAthlete.
Bump.
Try pacific mall if you live in Toronto
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Try pacific mall if you live in Toronto
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Do you know where I can order it online?
-CyberAthletes.
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Do you know where I can order it online?
-CyberAthletes.
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nope
Bump.
-CyberAthletes.
Bump???
-CyberAthletes.
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Bump???
-CyberAthletes.
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Some Canadians are buying through friends. Others have reported that VPN/Parcel Forwarding/US dollar Visa will work. I'm working on this issue now to see if I can get it working. I'll report back later if I can.
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Some Canadians are buying through friends. Others have reported that VPN/Parcel Forwarding/US dollar Visa will work. I'm working on this issue now to see if I can get it working. I'll report back later if I can.
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any luck?
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any luck?
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I have had luck. I went through HTC website and used a parcel forwarder.
Steps:
1) Get a US Dollar Visa - I used RBC which has a $65 annual fee. Some of the other banks have much cheaper cards, which you might want to look into.
2)Use a free VPN to get you to the checkout section of HTC's site. I didn't have to use a VPN to purchase on the HTC site, but I did use a free VPN which didn't support SSL on port 335 that the webstore uses. I just used the VPN to get me to the checkout stage and then I turned it off and completed the order.
3) Step up a parcel forwarding company and get a US address. I added the mailing address of my parcel forwarding company to my VISA. I then used a different address for my parcel forwarding company (by accident) and no one *****ed, which is odd.
4) A few days ago the phone arrived at the parcel forwarding company and we got it reshipped. Currently it's in customs somewhere and I should have it in about a week.
I think that the ordering criteria must have been relaxed a bit because I didn't have any trouble getting one of these shipped out. I didn't really use a VPN, I used the WRONG mailing address which wasn't on my brand new VISA, and I had a fight with the parcel forwarding company. All of this and the phone was shipped and then reshipped. Probably costs my another 100 bucks for the dev edition.
I used http://www.shipito.com/ for the forwarder. If you buy yourself it's postage + 4.3% of the postage + $8.50 USD to have the item reshipped. That worked out to 34 something for me (I pay a 2.50 instead of 8.50 because I bought the annual plan).
In total this cost me :
The VISA annual fee - 65
THe Parcel forwarding Annual fee - 50
The Postage et al - 34
The phone dev edition - 650
The visa and forwarding service I'll get lots of other mileage out of later.
If you happen to live in the Edmonton Area I can help you out, since there are some financial commitments of the VISA and parcel forwarding service you may not like. If you have any questions PM or post below.
Thanks for the info. I called HTC and asked them if id be able to ship to a hotel when I travel to the us, but they mentioned Id need a US credit card ( and also add the hotel to my cc). since I dont have a US visa, I couldn't order. I'm in Ottawa, but thanks for the offer. i'll see what my bank offers for US Visas, and see if I can have it shipped to a hotel i'll be at. If not I'll try as you suggested. I didnt even know parcel forwarding services existed.
Thanks again,
ck
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Thanks for the info. I called HTC and asked them if id be able to ship to a hotel when I travel to the us, but they mentioned Id need a US credit card ( and also add the hotel to my cc). since I dont have a US visa, I couldn't order. I'm in Ottawa, but thanks for the offer. i'll see what my bank offers for US Visas, and see if I can have it shipped to a hotel i'll be at. If not I'll try as you suggested. I didnt even know parcel forwarding services existed.
Thanks again,
ck
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There are charts that compare US Dollar VISAs. Here is one, there are a few others I have come across. I think I cheapest annual fees I have seen arr around 20 bucks...
http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/top-us-dollar-usd-credit-cards-in-canada.htm
This site is about a year old. I've read stuff on just getting a US VISA from a US bank in the states as well. There are some problems with that because the US uses a different credit rating system so you'd have zero history. I think you might need to have a SIN number equivalent down there as well. If you live close to the boarder getting the package is much much easier though. Most people just set up a mail box at a US post office and ship to it, travel across and pick up there goods. There are companies that specialize in this type of service actually. I don't live close to the boarder at all... (about a ten hour drive) so I don't have any recommendations. I just know I've come across them before online.
Im with RBC, but looks like the TD might be the best option. Thanks again for the info. Great community here.
cknewdeal said:
Im with RBC, but looks like the TD might be the best option. Thanks again for the info. Great community here.
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Just curious if you ever managed to get a HTC One ordered?
nilism said:
Just curious if you ever managed to get a HTC One ordered?
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No I wasn't able to order the HTC. When I called HTC they mentioned to just add an address I was visiting in the US as the billing and shipping address (hotel, family, etc). So before I did this I tried calling my credit card company to add one of those addresses as a billing address but they kept saying they were unable to do that. I tried a few times, but I think now there's probably a note on my file (whoops).
Hmmm that's odd. I had no problem adding addresses. I even added the wrong one and it still shipped, to an address that wasn't even on the card. Is it a US dollar visa?
I guess the first quarter loss is killing them.
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This is confusing. It appears to invalidate the extension they already put out on the trade up offer. This says you have to have bought the one between the 2nd and 5th. What happens to someone like me who bought on the 1st?
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This is confusing. It appears to invalidate the extension they already put out on the trade up offer. This says you have to have bought the one between the 2nd and 5th. What happens to someone like me who bought on the 1st?
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You paid more like I did by pre-ordering it. Like my Wife said.......You just had to have it.
reaper36 said:
This is confusing. It appears to invalidate the extension they already put out on the trade up offer. This says you have to have bought the one between the 2nd and 5th. What happens to someone like me who bought on the 1st?
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This is a different offer to bring in new customers.the promotion we have before is still valid with the extension
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Don't you love how they offer you a 'deal' for preordering but 2 weeks later they offer a better deal you don't qualify for?
Anyway, I ordered one for my dad 2 days ago which will be delivered today and here I discover this promotion that starts today. I emailed them asking if he can qualify because this offer will buy his EVO 3D for 100 bucks, which is more than I expect him to get from craigslist.
I went to the HTC site and put in my old phone details so I could see how much I would get. I used the promo code "HTC100" as directed. I put in all my info for the trade in phone and it said I could save the info and they would send an email with a link to get back and finish the process after buying the phone.
After I went and got the ONE, I got the email and it had a personal ID # and a link to continue but it just takes me back to the original site that wants me to input all the info again. The instructions in the email say that the link is supposed to take you to a page where you can input the personal ID# that they sent me. I don't see anyplace to do this and unfortunately the HTC100 code only works once so I can't even start over.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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I went to the HTC site and put in my old phone details so I could see how much I would get. I used the promo code "HTC100" as directed. I put in all my info for the trade in phone and it said I could save the info and they would send an email with a link to get back and finish the process after buying the phone.
After I went and got the ONE, I got the email and it had a personal ID # and a link to continue but it just takes me back to the original site that wants me to input all the info again. The instructions in the email say that the link is supposed to take you to a page where you can input the personal ID# that they sent me. I don't see anyplace to do this and unfortunately the HTC100 code only works once so I can't even start over.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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I had the same problem and eventually went to a different browser with that same link. I also started all over and ended up with a different personal id# for the same info/phone trade in.
watzone69 said:
I went to the HTC site and put in my old phone details so I could see how much I would get. I used the promo code "HTC100" as directed. I put in all my info for the trade in phone and it said I could save the info and they would send an email with a link to get back and finish the process after buying the phone.
After I went and got the ONE, I got the email and it had a personal ID # and a link to continue but it just takes me back to the original site that wants me to input all the info again. The instructions in the email say that the link is supposed to take you to a page where you can input the personal ID# that they sent me. I don't see anyplace to do this and unfortunately the HTC100 code only works once so I can't even start over.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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On that same page look up at the top at Status/Login.
Click that and enter your estimate ID.
Wife and I just got $100 each for our old Heros we had lying around. For once, as a consumer, I feel I like the big corporation is the sucker and not me. Thanks HTC.
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qualitymove13 said:
I had the same problem and eventually went to a different browser with that same link. I also started all over and ended up with a different personal id# for the same info/phone trade in.
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I tried it with IE and Chrome but no luck. Thanks though.
raptoro07 said:
On that same page look up at the top at Status/Login.
Click that and enter your estimate ID.
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Thanks but they sent me a "personal ID#" not an estimate ID#. The personal ID didn't work in the login.
I sent a comment to their support. Hopefully I'll get a reply before the weekend is over (yeah, right).
At least Sprint will give me something for my EVO 4G LTE if this craps out, just won't be as much.
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Does anyone have the HTC Trade-in Address?
I can't find it.
Thanks for posting this. Waiting for radio shack to open to buy the one, $199, using this htc deal for $100, & yelled at retentions for $100 credit since new customers get it. Phone is now free + $50 Google credit lol
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robfactory said:
Does anyone have the HTC Trade-in Address?
I can't find it.
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http://www.htctradeup.com/htcone/100promo/
they gave me $100 for my old ppc6800 mogul, add in my $100 credit for the buyback of the Evo 4G LTE at sprint, and early upgrade credit, i walked for 150 total. i cant complain
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they gave me $100 for my old ppc6800 mogul, add in my $100 credit for the buyback of the Evo 4G LTE at sprint, and early upgrade credit, i walked for 150 total. i cant complain
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When you say they gave you $100 for your old ppc6800 mogul, are you implying that you already received the visa card in the mail? I shipped my phone out 2 weeks ago and the status online says there are still waiting to receive it
[email protected] if we all flood his email box with when the hell are we gonna get a unlocked bootloader on the s5 he will get the point and do something??
Miles724 said:
[email protected] if we all flood his email box with when the hell are we gonna get a unlocked bootloader on the s5 he will get the point and do something??
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That's probably not actually his address. The nomenclature of corporate email usernames usually follow he same pattern within the company. The higher-ups usually get assigned personal corporate emails that don't follow the generic company pattern. This is probably the email for "The desk of Ralph de la Vega", which is probably monitored by a secretary.
I am a customer care agent for art and that came directly from att's my csp's web phone that has everyone who works for att
AT&T has almost a quarter million employees. your OP itself is a demonstration of how insecure it would be for that to be his actual email.
MattC867 said:
AT&T has almost a quarter million employees. your OP itself is a demonstration of how insecure it would be for that to be his actual email.
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The number of employees is not a factor. There is no reason why a person should not be able to call into a company customer service line and be able to walk away with contact information for any member if management. After all if you wanted to write the CEO just look up the quarterly earnings or annual statement.
CAG-man said:
The number of employees is not a factor. There is no reason why a person should not be able to call into a company customer service line and be able to walk away with contact information for any member if management. After all if you wanted to write the CEO just look up the quarterly earnings or annual statement.
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There is still no guarantee that incoming snail mail, email and faxes are not screened first. I work for a company of 30 employees, the office manager screens the owner's emails and decides what is important for him to read.
KennyG123 said:
There is still no guarantee that incoming snail mail, email and faxes are not screened first. I work for a company of 30 employees, the office manager screens the owner's emails and decides what is important for him to read.
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Exactly and thank you, I did forget to mention that part. :/ I suspect in this case a likely scenario.