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Difference between stock recovery and cmw recovery?

Hi guys..
First i dont know if i can post question here because i cant find any mini Q&A thread..
And sorry for my bad english..
I just buy my first mini yesterday, :beer:
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Kinda messed up, posted twice..
Ok can someone tell me what is the difference between stock recovery (2.3.5) and cmw recovery? Can i use stock recovery without any problems?
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wan903 said:
Kinda messed up, posted twice..
Ok can someone tell me what is the difference between stock recovery (2.3.5) and cmw recovery? Can i use stock recovery without any problems?
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Depends on what you want to do with your phone, if you are fine with running stock rom, don't change it as there is no need for it.
CWM is useful when you use custom roms (both for the flash process/wipes and backups/restore), stock recovery is useful for nothing at all in that case.
So, IOW, if you don't intend on using custom roms, stick with stock recovery, if you intend on using custom roms, get CWM.

Clockwork mod recovery lets you do things like wipe factory data reset, wipe cache, battery status etc.... and can also install roms from zip files. Stock recovery can't do that. Hope I helped Also clockwork mod only works if you are rooted first I belive.

Does this mean i need to use custom rom to get cmw? Can i use cmw in stock? I dont want to flash any custom rom yet but i need cmw to flash theme? Lol
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wan903 said:
Does this mean i need to use custom rom to get cmw? Can i use cmw in stock? I dont want to flash any custom rom yet but i need cmw to flash theme? Lol
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You can flash CWM and use stock but i have no idea why you would, you can't use backup or restore and you'll have no use for it what so ever.
You never need to flash a theme, you install it via market or downloaded .apk, if it's a custom theme you need a theme manager and you'll download and install themes via that manager.
You do NOT need CWM for anything you are trying to do.

wan903 said:
Does this mean i need to use custom rom to get cmw? Can i use cmw in stock? I dont want to flash any custom rom yet but i need cmw to flash theme? Lol
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You can use cwm on stock.
However, the great function isn't working on stock.
It means, even if you use cwm on stock, it has no difference with original (stock) recovery.
CMIIW
If you are going to use CWM anyway, might as well use custom rom...
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Thanks for the info.. But ill stick with my stock untill i get bored lol.. I like stock rom, its simple..
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Yea i know i can download lots of launcher for my phone but launcher slow down my phone.. even zeam launcher lags on my mini.. zeam launcher is the fastest i think..
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I recommend you to try emanoN v5
It's great...
Faster than stock...
I'm just a noob,
So, CMIIW

Lum_Os said:
Clockwork mod recovery lets you do things like wipe factory data reset, wipe cache, battery status etc.... and can also install roms from zip files. Stock recovery can't do that. Hope I helped Also clockwork mod only works if you are rooted first I belive.
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root is not required to use cwm

Thank i will give it a try eventually..
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Hi! I have a question. I have the last cmw touch but i cannot do a nandroid backup of the stock rom (2.3.4) because it can't mount system and cache. It's really not possible to make a backup of the stock rom? I'm asking this because i did some modifications like removing preinstalled apps and things like this and a new flash of the rom is not the same for me...

Diablos86 said:
Hi! I have a question. I have the last cmw touch but i cannot do a nandroid backup of the stock rom (2.3.4) because it can't mount system and cache. It's really not possible to make a backup of the stock rom? I'm asking this because i did some modifications like removing preinstalled apps and things like this and a new flash of the rom is not the same for me...
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Has been asked a couple of times already.. CWM cannot backup stock rom, only custom roms.. The only way to restore stock rom is Odin method..

kitrax59 said:
Has been asked a couple of times already.. CWM cannot backup stock rom, only custom roms.. The only way to restore stock rom is Odin method..
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ok thank you

CWM on mini
dont use CWM on any samsung phone it will brick ur phone permanently

plazaman91 said:
dont use CWM on any samsung phone it will brick ur phone permanently
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What are you talking about??? I have been using cwm for more than eight months and I haven't had any problems at all.

plazaman91 said:
dont use CWM on any samsung phone it will brick ur phone permanently
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Trolling around eh?!!!
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KoperKiller said:
What are you talking about??? I have been using cwm for more than eight months and I haven't had any problems at all.
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I meant installing it tru rom manager
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Jinxxed said:
Depends on what you want to do with your phone, if you are fine with running stock rom, don't change it as there is no need for it.
CWM is useful when you use custom roms (both for the flash process/wipes and backups/restore), stock recovery is useful for nothing at all in that case.
So, IOW, if you don't intend on using custom roms, stick with stock recovery, if you intend on using custom roms, get CWM.
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hello,
How do I figure out what a custom recovery do i need to choose when i'm going to install a custom rom like 6.20.709.2

Noob To Phone

Hey All
My GF has just brought a galaxy mini so i was planning on rooting it with this method:
Universal Gingerbread Root & Unroot 2.3.3 -> 2.3.7+
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However i have a htc incredible and if you are only rooted you need to flash the boot.img in order to get a rom working. Unless you are S-OFF then you can boot a rom without flashing the boot.img and you can change radios etc.
How does it work over here with the galaxy mini?
Basically i want to;
root the phone
install CWM
Install a rom with decent battery life
If anybody can give me help on the above that would be great
Vizzy

vizzy said:
Hey All
My GF has just brought a galaxy mini so i was planning on rooting it with this method:
Universal Gingerbread Root & Unroot 2.3.3 -> 2.3.7+
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However i have a htc incredible and if you are only rooted you need to flash the boot.img in order to get a rom working. Unless you are S-OFF then you can boot a rom without flashing the boot.img and you can change radios etc.
How does it work over here with the galaxy mini?
Basically i want to;
root the phone
install CWM
Install a rom with decent battery life
If anybody can give me help on the above that would be great
Vizzy
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On mini its much easyer then on htc phones! Just install cwm with odin or install squads cwm touch with stock recovery then install custom rom with cwm recovery! Almost all custom roms are pre rooted so no need to root when you want to install custom rom!!
Good luck buddy happy flashing
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So are you saying I don't need to root the phone. Just cwm and custom roms are the only 2 things I need to do?
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vizzy said:
So are you saying I don't need to root the phone. Just cwm and custom roms are the only 2 things I need to do?
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Yes exactly!!
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That's ridiculous. To root my HTC I had to downgrade my hboot, create a gold card, unlock the bootloader then install cwm and roms. As well as numerous commands on CMD fastboot!
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vizzy said:
That's ridiculous. To root my HTC I had to downgrade my hboot, create a gold card, unlock the bootloader then install cwm and roms. As well as numerous commands on CMD fastboot!
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haha that's really it buddy.. it's so easy on the mini.. fastest way is to flash CWM touch by squadzone via stock recovery, choose a rom and flash it in CWM..

And if you wanted to just root the stock rom, you just install an update.zip (for rooting ofc) file from recovery and thats it. Samsungs are much easier

that why galaxy mini IS THE BEST..ALSO CHEAP PRICE ..

What is hboot?

So I've had my phone for over a year now, am s-off and flashed numerous ROMs, but not quite sure what the hboot is? I am s-off via alpha rev and currently running 4ext recovery touch. I have hboot 1.09.1000, but some new ROMs are saying I need blackrose to flash, especially tpblake's new ROMs. Is this the case as not really keen on changing my hboot, considering I don't even know what it is!
Thanks in advance from a rather sheepish member
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VaderXI said:
So I've had my phone for over a year now, am s-off and flashed numerous ROMs, but not quite sure what the hboot is? I am s-off via alpha rev and currently running 4ext recovery touch. I have hboot 1.09.1000, but some new ROMs are saying I need blackrose to flash, especially tpblake's new ROMs. Is this the case as not really keen on changing my hboot, considering I don't even know what it is!
Thanks in advance from a rather sheepish member
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In your case, the AlphaRevX HBOOT 1.09.1000 is what is allowing your phone to be S-OFF. Another term for HBOOT is the bootloader.
In your case, you are running a modified bootloader that has the SECURITY_FLAG turned OFF, thus the acronym S-OFF.

Can I flash with this or should I update to blackrose as you say in your ROM thread
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VaderXI said:
Can I flash with this or should I update to blackrose as you say in your ROM thread
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You can flash most of the custom ROMs with your current HBOOT just fine. You could easily upgrade to BlackRose just fine without losing anything. It is really up to you. What do you want to flash?

Yours!
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tpbklake said:
You can flash most of the custom ROMs with your current HBOOT just fine. You could easily upgrade to BlackRose just fine without losing anything. It is really up to you. What do you want to flash?
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VaderXI said:
Yours!
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Yes then you will need to upgrade your HBOOT to BlackRose in order to flash the stock, rooted ICS ROMs I have posted.
Go read the BlackRose link I posted on the stock, rooted ICS ROM thread.

tpbklake said:
Yes then you will need to upgrade your HBOOT to BlackRose in order to flash the stock, rooted ICS ROMs I have posted.
Go read the BlackRose link I posted on the stock, rooted ICS ROM thread.
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Yep all installing blackrose involves, provided that you have set up for it is for you to click on the .exe and it does it all for you. I for one was amazed by the simplicity when I finally flashed it yesterday. Not much to be scared of (I was a bit scared of playing with partitions and hboots)
#my2cents

S-off achieved.. what now?

Hey.
Managed to s-off my HTC incredible s with revolutionary, All works well and no issues. But what are the bennifits of this? Can I flash any rom made for my incS with out fastbooting the boot.img? I'm confused because some roms still don't boot.
Thanks :thumbup:
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firescotti255 said:
Hey.
Managed to s-off my HTC incredible s with revolutionary, All works well and no issues. But what are the bennifits of this? Can I flash any rom made for my incS with out fastbooting the boot.img? I'm confused because some roms still don't boot.
Thanks :thumbup:
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Yes with Revolutionary S-OFF you will be able to flash custom ROMs while in recovery without needing to manually flash the boot.img in FASTBOOT mode.
There are several reasons why some ROMs may not boot. If you allowed Revolutionary to install Revolutionary CWM recovery, then that is an older version. You may want to install 4EXT touch recovery instead. In other cases, the ROMs have specific wipe instructions that you must follow before you flash the ROM. If you do not follow them, it could cause issues with the ROM.
If you have problems with specific ROMs, then I would search the ROM's thread to see if others have run into the issue or if more detailed process may have been posted based on users' experiences.

Okay thanks, I don't use clockwork mod I had flashed 4EXTRecovery flashed with recovery.img. I will give a look into into it and play with some roms then get back to you. Thanks
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[Q] Installing JellyMod

I apologies If I'm posting in the wrong section, I literally just signed up. I've rooted my device and have got the jellymod file downloaded, however I've looked at some tutorials (couldn't find one specifically for I9070) and they say to use ROM manager with clockwork mod however it seems my model isn't supported so I'm quite stuck, help please!

Azykk said:
I apologies If I'm posting in the wrong section, I literally just signed up. I've rooted my device and have got the jellymod file downloaded, however I've looked at some tutorials (couldn't find one specifically for I9070) and they say to use ROM manager with clockwork mod however it seems my model isn't supported so I'm quite stuck, help please!
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Do NOT use rom manager...can result in a brick. After you've rooted, install a custom kernel with custom recovery and then just flash the jellymod using custom recovery after placing it in the ext sd card..
Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198341
Hope that helps..
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rushilkr said:
Do NOT use rom manager...can result in a brick. After you've rooted, install a custom kernel with custom recovery and then just flash the jellymod using custom recovery after placing it in the ext sd card..
Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198341
Hope that helps..
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Thank you for the quick reply, could you recommend a custom kernel to get?

Azykk said:
Thank you for the quick reply, could you recommend a custom kernel to get?
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Go with CoCore..the same which is in the guide.. i believe that is 5.0 version.. you can update it later to 5.6 or 6.0 if you want to..
Edit- the link is to the main cocore thread.. so you can go ahead and install the latest i.e 6.0 with either twrp or cwm recovery..
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