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Hello Admins / Mods,
I opend this thread to see if we can get an update on the situation that has been going on for the past 24 hours with regard to the sharing issue. Many of the chefs have decided to discontinue their ROM development work due to this.
Myself along with a lot of other HD users (I hope) are very eager to know when things would get back to normal. I kept visiting this section frequently to see if there is any new information on this situation, but unfortunately there isn't any.
So, please let us know if ROM development for Blackstone is going to continue or did the cooks really leave XDA. If they did leave as they have mentioned, it a huge loss to this community and I think the Admins and the Mods must do what ever it takes to convinience them to share their work within XDA.
Due to the action of a few individuals... this great community should not suffer.
Please let us know the status.
Davideuck / kwbr / Laurentius26 / HelloNasty / pzucchel / robertus3d / texture / panosha / pzucchel / duttythroy (sorry if I missed someone) - You are all a GREAT asset to this community and we love your work and you are the reason we love our devices even more.
Please resolve your differences and I hope things get back to being normal and exiting.
i am a 100% with you!
Firstly, I am sympathetic with the rest of the staff, but I will not stop, I like to do
Roms, investigate, but never stop!
Because I like!! Never received any donation in blackstone! But life continues ... Spend large hours a day!!!
Thanks to everyone who like my job!
Im a mod on a car site based in the UK. We had a situation where a member was ripping off other members via our 'for sale' section. We investigated and kept our member informed. It doesnt take much and im disappointed it hasn't happened here.
Frankly if this site doesn't respond very soon, in a satisfactory way (I.E not in an aggressive or arrogant way), then its not the sort of place i want to be. It will certainly reflect badly on the WM community, it may make me regret my decision to move over from Symbian. Indeed the quality of the community often guides my choices in automotive and AV.
Im not saying the cookers owe us anything (im happy with my ROM) and i support them if they have been wronged, but after investing money in my Blackstone id like to know my options.
I'm one of "Autocensored" cookers and only thing I can say is:
Yesterday someone paid a user to avoid sharing of new topaz rom... for this me, DavideUck, Infido and others had protested stopping our development until the sharing priority will be guarantee...
EDIT: I forgot to say that Mods are hepling us to much to understand what's happened and really soon the truth will overcome
Greets
francesco
carburano said:
I'm one of "Autocensored" cookers and only thing I can say is:
Yesterday someone paid a user to avoid sharing of new topaz rom... for this me, DavideUck, Infido and others had protested stopping our development until the sharing priority will be guarantee...
EDIT: I forgot to say that Mods are hepling us to much to understand what's happened and really soon the truth will overcome
Greets
francesco
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Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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I'm sure it will get back to normal pretty soon.....
Personally I am very greatly to all cooks and mods for there hard work and I always donate to the cook of which ROM I choose.
It will be a sad day to lose any cooks due to these unfortunate circumstances.
I look forward to everything going back to normal, and hopefully people will learn that this site is for the cummnity!!!
VizagDude said:
Hello Admins / Mods,
I opend this thread to see if we can get an update on the situation that has been going on for the past 24 hours with regard to the sharing issue. Many of the chefs have decided to discontinue their ROM development work due to this.
Myself along with a lot of other HD users (I hope) are very eager to know when things would get back to normal. I kept visiting this section frequently to see if there is any new information on this situation, but unfortunately there isn't any.
So, please let us know if ROM development for Blackstone is going to continue or did the cooks really leave XDA. If they did leave as they have mentioned, it a huge loss to this community and I think the Admins and the Mods must do what ever it takes to convinience them to share their work within XDA.
Due to the action of a few individuals... this great community should not suffer.
Please let us know the status.
Davideuck / kwbr / Laurentius26 / HelloNasty / pzucchel / robertus3d / texture / panosha / duttythroy (sorry if I missed someone) - You are all a GREAT asset to this community and we love your work and you are the reason we love our devices even more.
Please resolve your differences and I hope things get back to being normal and exiting.
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Agree.
Lets wait for some feedback.
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Agree.
Lets wait for some feedback.
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yes i hobe it will come
knudsen81 said:
yes i hobe it will come
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Lets hope so.
But from the look of other threads like this one this one will soon close.
speed200 said:
Lets hope so.
But from the look of other threads like this one this one will soon close.
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LOL... Close is the more easy!!!!
hellonasty said:
Firstly, I am sympathetic with the rest of the staff, but I will not stop, I like to do
Roms, investigate, but never stop!
Because I like!! Never received any donation in blackstone! But life continues ... Spend large hours a day!!!
Thanks to everyone who like my job!
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When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
drexxie said:
When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
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You have understand all my friend!
drexxie said:
When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
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Thanks!!!!
I put you in my Big list!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482341
This clearly is a most unfortunate situation and I can understand how many of the cooks, mods and members alike are becoming upset. This said, can I appeal to those same people not to bring this bad feeling into the rom threads themselves. Despite the mods repeatedly saying they will sort out the situation as quickly as possible, certain people continue to bombard the threads with aggressive accusations which cannot serve any purpose. I myself was accused of taking back handers last night because I tried to get the thread back on topic! I mean really! I wouldn't mind but I've not seen a penny
The rom threads should be for help and bug reports and that alone! Threads such as this one are the perfect opportunity to raise other issues.
The saddest thing about this is some of the cooks who are upset are inadvertently doing what they are accusing others of in not sharing, by discontinuing their work here.
In the year I've been a member here, I've downloaded and enjoyed numerous roms from many of the cooks here and I've enjoyed being part of a great community. It breaks my heart to see that same community crumbling before my eyes
C'mon guys, can we not try to work through this like the adults we are and get back to being the best god damn HTC forum on the planet?
Rich
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The rom threads should be for help and bug reports and that alone! Threads such as this one are the perfect opportunity to raise other issues.
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Exactly
ClownShoes said:
The saddest thing about this is some of the cooks who are upset are inadvertently doing what they are accusing others of in not sharing, by discontinuing their work here.
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Hmmm Even more exact
ClownShoes said:
C'mon guys, can we not try to work through this like the adults we are and get back to being the best god damn HTC forum on the planet?
Rich
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Exactly
Who has the right to demand on this community? This scenario seems so imature and childish.
Chiefs leave/move on, new ones will start thats how it goes, lets not let them hold XDA to ransom.
Surely we don't need martyrs on XDA?
Well here's something to make you all smile
The same member who last night accused me of being somehow involved in making money
lucarp78 said:
Mind your business, or maybe you're business involved?
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Has now got it into his head that I am Duttythroy because I was helping people in the thread
lucarp78 said:
what's your game?
I think that you aren't who seem be!
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ClownShoes said:
This is brilliant... Am I right in thinking you're accusing me of being Duttythroy?
Er no! What on earth would I gain from pretending to be another member?
Ha ha ha, you've made my day though
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You said, not me.
This is sufficient for doubt, together at all your posts from when you register in xda.
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All joking aside, this is what I was talking about though. People are getting carried away now and it's starting to get in the way of people genuinely seeking help. Can I perhaps suggest to a politely worded PM sent out to all members, asking for a little patience and consideration at this time?
Rich
Can someone explain what is all this sharing issue all about?
I read many threads, but didn't understand the root of this matter.
Amir.
amir77a said:
Can someone explain what is all this sharing issue all about?
I read many threads, but didn't understand the root of this matter.
Amir.
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Ok, here is the story...
Dutty's V1.8 ROM was from the new HTC ROM from (Dimond2 or Touch Pro2). Other chefs were hoping that he would dump that ROM. But, Dutty said that he was not going to share this new HTC ROM (Topaz) since he promised his source that he would not.
After couple of days, a few chefs were suppose to come out with their next ROM versions with this Topaz ROM build. But then, suddenly, who ever was suppose to sare this ROM with these chefs, told them in PM that some one Paid him money not to share this new Topaz with the XDA chefs. So he decided not to.
Now the chefs who were waiting for this ROM dump, got really pissed and decided not to share their own work within XDA until the admins and the Mods of XDA make it clear that sharing made the core principle within the XDA community.
Facts:
- Dutty was the one only one who had this new HTC ROM and he decided not to share it with anyone else for his own reasons as he explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484867
- Someone "claims" got paid by someone else not to sare the new ROM with the chefs within XDA as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3373252&postcount=1842
- Most of the Blackstone chefs decided to Discontinue their curren work and/or leave the XDA community until stuff is shared by everyone here for the benifit of the community.
Peace OUT!
After reading this, another possibility is that Dutty too was payed not to share...
And maybe he is not the one who paid?
Hey guys,
cause of the fast growing android on kaiser community, it would be great to get a new android subforum for us. For me that makes sense cause things get less complicate, and people won't post wiMo questions in android threads and vice versa..
So, let the poll beginn
I was thinking of that for last month... hope mods will see this poll
Definetely yes, please...
Yes....... I think it's a great idea.
Moved as not Kaiser ROM / Android Development.
I'll pass this on to moderation team.
Moved as not Kaiser ROM / Android Development
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Sorry, my fault
I'll pass this on to moderation team.
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Thanks, would be great to get our own subforum
Wasn't this done a week or 2 ago?
Wasn't this done a week or 2 ago?
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Yes for the vogue people i think. I Haven't noticed such a poll here in kaiser forums
Been thinking of just this very subject over the past week, getting harder to keep track of the android threads.
With Kaiser Android under such heavy development I feel we really need a sub-forum for it, would help keep the confusion to a bare minimum.
In case the mods decide to give us an own subforum, here are the most latest Android threads from Rom developing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614275
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585452
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613049
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621489
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578421
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Sorry, but i feel the need to bump this a little, it's getting lost, ( and I think this is important enough to bump ).
Double bump
I asked some time before but administration didnt like it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615614
Guys - new Android forum lives! Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=602
It may take a couple of hours before everyone can see it.
You can post links to any threads you want moving over here, I'll do them when I can...
Ta
Dave
The Android sub-forum will help us to find more quickly the topics, and is a great idea, cuz Winmo and Android in same sob-forum is strange.
JeckyllHavok great job man, cheers.
Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!
There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?
I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you
Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.
Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)
I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.
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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )
Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/
Hi community, I have a question. Is out there a way to get the sources from novathor? Can we push to ST to release sources?
We can do this with the Xperia P, U and sola users, they want that too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171038
And is a igloo kernel for our SoC, but I think it is very buggy.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitwe...og;h=29a3e1ef73daaa91cbf5cce2fb475f1878254402
And one last thing, I've founded this on Igloo dev section support.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Android_Releases#Jelly_Bean
Is for our SoCs I think.
So can we make a good request to ST or igloo? my idea is to push them to release a consistent source for our SoC.
Any dev or user with time can help me?, I'll find some experience user in Xperia U forum and deliver to him my idea if he want to colaborate.
EDIT: Can we use this SE Novathor U8500 source from CM git to port or build CM for our device?
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/sony-kernel-u8500/tree/jellybean
Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Sorry, I'm just a noob that has discovered america
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Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...
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Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Agree with you.....
Samsung Galaxy S Advance
Rom : Jelly Bean 4.1.2 I9070XXLQ4
Kernel: CoCore E-4.4-TWRP
I Am WhAt I Am
First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions.
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Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!
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Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!
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I already said that i had no intentions of being rude. If i sounded rude, i have already apologized!
And for the record, i do encourage such posts.
Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
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... Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
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If you do a simple search in GENERAL SECTION about the novathor SoC (I mean discussion to port CM or anything about that)
You will find THIS, THIS, THIS and THIS
And the thread that inspired me to create this one is this thread., that is in another phone section
I didn't find a proper discussion thread about that so I created one, did you see a genuine discussion thread about de NT SoC and a discussion to find a way to get all the proper drivers for the SoC on JB? In xda general, questions you will don't find it.
Do you think that is a noob way to explain a situation and make some questions to get opinions?
Finnaly, in this thread Shaaan, the first post can be an example for you, that guy was respectful.
I can understand that you find all of those information months (even years) ago, but if you don't publish that, we will don't know that you have knowloedge about that stuff.
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Signed !
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9070
Sooo.. im still in same position that i believe that some threads have to be open only for devs and give for one or two users (shut_down is the best example) the info, releases, changes, etc. to be posted in general section for the rest of users. That is the best way to separate the devs works in one place and the rest of users in other place because leaves a good workspace for devs without noobs interrumpting..
I will sign when arrive home, im on bus now and its hard with the extra full people capacity in it..
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I rofl'd .
I can't believe there someone more sensitive than me
Don't rail at me when I make mistakes, I'm a sensitive guy and there's a high chance I might turn unstable.
Signed. Might help the Ace II community.
JoaoGuiPan said:
when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
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I will throw rocks. Only the person who can come out successfully out of it can do some valuable contribution to the community! If a person leaves developing just because he was flamed, then he wasn't destined to be a dev at the first place!
Don't get me wrong here, but if you really want to do something for the community, this is the way to go.
I am what i am (no matter how small i am, but i think i have earned atleast 2% of respect on xda), because people threw rocks at me when i was new. That is the hard way of learning, but it is the best one.
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back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.
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back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.
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Just signing a petition won't help. Get the devs involved. And mean all devs working on STE UX500
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STE Novathor U8500 Sources
STE novathor u8500 sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625365
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49799159&postcount=149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49800053&postcount=152
Please download before it disappears!
MODS PLEASE MOVE THIS POST. I AM SORRY FOR POSTING IT IN THE WRONG SECTION.
I don't mean to be a downer on people who've done the hard work in porting or making a working custom rom but is there point to AOSP Roms if there is no working camera? I mean isn't it a pretty big functionality that needs to be working for the ROMS to be actually released as working?
Perhaps maybe its just me who thinks if you buy the Z1 based on the fact that it has a good camera you'd want that one minor feature.
Just a thought I decided to share.
(PS: When I say camera isn't working I mean complete functionality not "It just can't focus. It does work!"
Now you have seen the point of the Q&A thread (i.e. its a place for posting questions that is better than the original dev forum) I think its time to answer your question.
the point is this is a developers forum, for developers and by developers. Not every single rom in this forum is a finished article but are works in progress. They are not here for you to be able to pick through and make your phone "cool"
They are here as on going pieces of work for people to help develop and work on.
Please read this
This is the highlight of that post and should be the last word in this thread
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
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Well, work done now doesn't have to be done in the future anymore so if they iron out all the issues already that saves a lot of time in the future right? Sure, without a working camera there will not be a lot of people using them, but I still hope sony fixes this issue in the future and when they do we at least have a bit to choose from already.
That and the fact that it might be more for themselves, to develop and get some experience or work on things, then for the end user.
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Now you have seen the point of the Q&A thread (i.e. its a place for posting questions that is better than the original dev forum) I think its time to answer your question.
the point is this is a developers forum, for developers and by developers. Not every single rom in this forum is a finished article but are works in progress. They are not here for you to be able to pick through and make your phone "cool"
They are here as on going pieces of work for people to help develop and work on.
Please read this
This is the highlight of that post and should be the last word in this thread
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Well said my friend.
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