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Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
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If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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The idea of Motocast (access files on home computer from phone) seems really useful. I see there is also an app called SugarSync. Has anyone tried both and like one better than the other?
I know Dropbox is also available, but I don't want cloud storage. I want to get the files on my home PC. Or can Dropbox also do this?
Yes, I should try both and decide myself. But my current phone isn't very current and I'm not eligible for an upgrade for 16 days, 4 hrs, 13 minutes, 36 seconds. So until then, I'm stuck with just browsing forums and looking through play.google
Thanks much for any replies . . .
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The idea of Motocast (access files on home computer from phone) seems really useful. I see there is also an app called SugarSync. Has anyone tried both and like one better than the other?
I know Dropbox is also available, but I don't want cloud storage. I want to get the files on my home PC. Or can Dropbox also do this?
Yes, I should try both and decide myself. But my current phone isn't very current and I'm not eligible for an upgrade for 16 days, 4 hrs, 13 minutes, 36 seconds. So until then, I'm stuck with just browsing forums and looking through play.google
Thanks much for any replies . . .
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SugarSync is also a cloud service. It stores all of your synced files on their servers, and then syncs it to your device.
I have no idea how Motocast works, since I just use SugarSync (heh , paid user even!) but if you are against cloud storage for whatever reason (privacy, etc), Motocast might be a better choice.
Thanks for the reply, podspi.
I installed Motocast on my home computer last night and setup one folder for testing. I logged into Motocast on my work computer this morning. I was able to open files from my home computer at work! Pretty cool! I assume it works as well on a Droid.
I have read more about SugarSync. Looks like it can do the same! You can put files on their cloud, buy you can also use your computer as a "personal cloud". I have nothing against cloud storage, but I would rather be able to access all my home files without having to put them in cloud storage first. My home computer is always on so that should work out for me.
I just download windows phone application and game (*.XAP) from some website, but how to install it to my Nokia Lumia 920?
anyone know please help :angel:
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dane
If you downloaded it from windowsphone.com, you can't install it because you need a MicroSD slot....
If you downloaded it from a "questionable" site, this is not a place to talk about it but, you need a dev unlocked phone and install the dev kit (needs Windows 8) to be able to install it..
Talking about pirated software here is a good way to get yourself banned so watch it.
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If you downloaded it from windowsphone.com, you can't install it because you need a MicroSD slot....
If you downloaded it from a "questionable" site, this is not a place to talk about it but, you need a dev unlocked phone and install the dev kit (needs Windows 8) to be able to install it..
Talking about pirated software here is a good way to get yourself banned so watch it.
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Thanks DavidinCT,
Nokia Lumia 920 doesn't have the card slot, so how can i install (.XAP) files that i download from windowsphone.com?
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Thanks DavidinCT,
Nokia Lumia 920 doesn't have the card slot, so how can i install (.XAP) files that i download from windowsphone.com?
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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thanks again!! DavidinCT,
"the only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit", could you show me to do it?
it was hard to download the big game from the phone, it seem like the "resume" of windowsphone doesn't work properly.
thanks,
You can't install XAP-Files downloaded from the Store using a developer unlock. They get encrypted when being put into the Store and developer deployment only works with XAP files that are unencrypted (which you get when building Apps yourself).
So basically: you can only download from the PC and install using a SD Card. Or download and install directly on the phone. Everything else only works for Homebrew Software or for stuff you have developed yourself.
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You can't install XAP-Files downloaded from the Store using a developer unlock. They get encrypted when being put into the Store and developer deployment only works with XAP files that are unencrypted (which you get when building Apps yourself).
So basically: you can only download from the PC and install using a SD Card. Or download and install directly on the phone. Everything else only works for Homebrew Software or for stuff you have developed yourself.
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Y'all telling me that if I get my hands on a Developer Edition Lumia 920 I can install XAPs via the Windows Phone SDK's Application Deployment for Windows Phone 8? I use the hell out of that on my HD2 and Titan (HSPL).
@berrywr: There's no such thing as a "Developer Edition" Lumia 920 (or any other phone) that I'm aware of; it's just a matter of using the official Developer Unlock feature on Windows Phone (which is done using the "Windows Phone Developer Registration" utility installed with the SDK, but requires having a developer account with Microsoft, sometimes called an AppHub account). Once you have the phone dev-unlocked, you can install .XAPs using Application Deployment, yes.
However, bear in mind that the vast majority of WP7 homebrew is completely non-functional on WP8. The internals of the OS are too different. WP8 is even more locked down than WP7 (much, much more locked down than on a custom ROM such as the HD2 uses to run WP7) and we haven't broken that yet.
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@berrywr: There's no such thing as a "Developer Edition" Lumia 920 (or any other phone) that I'm aware of; it's just a matter of using the official Developer Unlock feature on Windows Phone (which is done using the "Windows Phone Developer Registration" utility installed with the SDK, but requires having a developer account with Microsoft, sometimes called an AppHub account). Once you have the phone dev-unlocked, you can install .XAPs using Application Deployment, yes.
However, bear in mind that the vast majority of WP7 homebrew is completely non-functional on WP8. The internals of the OS are too different. WP8 is even more locked down than WP7 (much, much more locked down than on a custom ROM such as the HD2 uses to run WP7) and we haven't broken that yet.
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@GoodDayToDie This is why I like to take my time before jumping all in with a new smart phone; homework! Is the Windows Phone Development Center the same entity as what use to be the AppHub? I see from their website they're offering an annual subscription to WPDC for $19 until August 27, 2013. My memory serves me correct it use to be $99 unless you had a student (.edu) email address which I do coincidentally have...was for Windows Phone 7.x Since my Titans are HSPL I never had a need for it. So what is being advertised around the web as a Developer Edition is not necessarily bootloader unlocked it simply means pentaband or for example you can go to a Canadagsm.ca and get the same thing for about $400 US; yes? Thanks!
I have a Lumia 720 ....it has SD card option....so can anyone tell me how to install apps from SD card ??
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@berrywr: You're correct. The $19 account will get you a 1-year Dev Center account (same as AppHub) and that will allow you to dev-unlock your phone and sideload XAPs. You can certainly try using the school account, and it may work and save money, but historically school accounts were relatively locked down by comparison (maximum of three sideloaded apps at once, which was relaxed but nore removed for paid accounts).
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You can't. I have a HTC 8X and I am in the same boat as you with No MicroSD slot. I can not do it. This was something set by Microsoft, installing of XAP files can only be done via MicroSD cards and I checked, there is NO way to install XAPs with out a MicroSD card.
Sorry but, like me, you can't. The only way to install a XAP file on a Lumia 920 or HTC 8X (a WP8 device with no MicroSD slot) is a Unlocked phone with the Dev kit and that would only be for self made or unencrypted XAP files.
You can download all you want fromt the Marketplace but, you wont be able to do anything with them.
Yea, I agree, it's crappy...why should we lose out of that feature but, this was set by Microsoft...
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I'm in the same boat, I have removable SD card and I cant install apps off it on my Nokia.
@orbitalschool: Did you even read the post you claim to be "in the same boat" as? I don't think you did, because if you *have* a microSD slot, then you are explicitly *not* in DavidinCT's boat.
In any case, the "install apps from SD card" is for marketplace apps that you downloaded using a PC, to save phone bandwidth. Nothing more, nothing less (well, It might work for enterprise apps too, but you can just email those to yourself or send them via Bluetooth). You still need a valid license to install apps that way, too. Homebrew apps can be installed using the dev tools. Pirated apps can't be installed at all, generally speaking, though that (and the fact that asking about it is against the forum rules) hasn't stopped people from complaining that it's not working...
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@orbitalschool: Did you even read the post you claim to be "in the same boat" as? I don't think you did, because if you *have* a microSD slot, then you are explicitly *not* in DavidinCT's boat.
In any case, the "install apps from SD card" is for marketplace apps that you downloaded using a PC, to save phone bandwidth. Nothing more, nothing less (well, It might work for enterprise apps too, but you can just email those to yourself or send them via Bluetooth). You still need a valid license to install apps that way, too. Homebrew apps can be installed using the dev tools. Pirated apps can't be installed at all, generally speaking, though that (and the fact that asking about it is against the forum rules) hasn't stopped people from complaining that it's not working...
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The Apps, I downloaded manually from Microsoft site. Put them on the SD card. I re-factory set the phone, as wp8 started downloading my hotmail emails and I didn't know how to uninstall or turn that function off. Every question is easy if you know the answer, I had no idea you could send apps to the phone via bluetooth, thanks for the info.
Its all irrelevant now, I put two tutorial.avi videos on the SD card. Phone wouldn't play them, I'm sure more knowledgeable people could easily rectify this, I tried a SD avi player app but couldn't get that to work, I must admit I really liked the Nokia 820, butter smooth and looks and feels great...Its just been repacked as I'm sending it back. Such a shame as I can do everything I want on my HTC wm6.5....so wp8 for me is going backwards.
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The Apps, I downloaded manually from Microsoft site. Put them on the SD card. I re-factory set the phone, as wp8 started downloading my hotmail emails and I didn't know how to uninstall or turn that function off. Every question is easy if you know the answer, I had no idea you could send apps to the phone via bluetooth, thanks for the info.
Its all irrelevant now, I put two tutorial.avi videos on the SD card. Phone wouldn't play them, I'm sure more knowledgeable people could easily rectify this, I tried a SD avi player app but couldn't get that to work, I must admit I really liked the Nokia 820, butter smooth and looks and feels great...Its just been repacked as I'm sending it back. Such a shame as I can do everything I want on my HTC wm6.5....so wp8 for me is going backwards.
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you can dev-unlock the phone with the studio 2013 preview for free.
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you can dev-unlock the phone with the studio 2013 preview for free.
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Thanks, at the moment I'm new phoneless.
Let me adjust me tin hat, my frustrations as a not very technology minded person; I just want things to flow. I don’t want to feel everything I do is governed by big business. On my wm device, select file explorer, find app, install and watch avi. WP8…???
Here is the legal way to do this
All you need to do is follow these steps:
tiptotrick.net/install-apps-on-windows-phone-8-for-free
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All you need to do is follow these steps:
tiptotrick.net/install-apps-on-windows-phone-8-for-free
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And all what you say, is written here. :laugh:
Unlock using Devkit may void our windows phone warranty.Is this true?
installing through sd card is not successful.WHERE TO COPY XAP FILE IN SD CARD ?File is not showing in phone file manager to install.Help?
Hi
Is there a folder sync app to SD card say from a ftp server?
Keen to sync apps from a nas to my wife's Nokia windows 8 phone?
Thanks
I'd normally put this in the Q&A forum, but whatever... So far as I know, there's no app to do a really proper sync, but you could probably get close enough for specific use cases. Apps are only allowed to see files on the SD card if those files have extensions that the app has registered to handle, and apps are limited to 20 such registrations. Consequently, it's not possible (with an official, third-party store-published app) to build a truly general-purpose syncing app. However, you might find one that can do the formats you care about in particular.
By the way, yes, this is total BS. Not sure what the heck MS was thinking with these restrictions... they are decidedly unhelpful to users
Hello,
I would like to know how I can make an app on my sd card...for example...es file manager...to automatically install itself onto a android tablet once inserted into the tablets sd card slot. I think scripting may be involved but I'm not sure. I have done nothing.
Thanks
Titanium backup should be able to run a Tasker app command..
haven't tried it though
Tasker
Thanks for your reply.
I'm wondering if is possible for an app to auto install without piggy backing on another app.
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Thanks for your reply.
I'm wondering if is possible for an app to auto install without piggy backing on another app.
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i believe you mean this?
but i can't remember exactly how i enabled that if what you're asking..
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Not quite. The Titanium backup will be necessary on the other device as well in order for an application to auto-run itself.
I am more interested in learning how to make apps I download to a chip auto install itself once I insert that chip into another device. Something like what a CD does when you put it into a computer.
Is this even possible?
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Hello,
I would like to know how I can make an app on my sd card...for example...es file manager...to automatically install itself onto a android tablet once inserted into the tablets sd card slot. I think scripting may be involved but I'm not sure. I have done nothing.
Thanks
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Please explain why you want to do this. Some context will help us give you a suitable answer.
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I bought this very cheap off-brand Android OS tablet off FB sales and it is limited to its pre-installed games. I can't do anything in the settings menu except view/uninstall the pre-installed apps and set the clock. This tablet doesn't have any USB ports, but it does have a micro SD card reader, headphone jack, and DC charging port. The card reader reads and plays (through the factory installed media player app) mp3 files and mp4 files on any micro SD card I place in it. I tried placing a micro SD card with other file formats (apk/pdf/epub) on it but nothing happens besides a notification saying, "SD card mounted." I am looking for a method that will have any APK ( specifically a file explorer app) on a micro SD card I insert auto-install or at least have the "install" dialog box pop up in order to expand the capabilities of this crappy tablet. Thank you for any and all assistance.
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I bought this very cheap off-brand Android OS tablet off FB sales and it is limited to its pre-installed games. I can't do anything in the settings menu except view/uninstall the pre-installed apps and set the clock. This tablet doesn't have any USB ports, but it does have a micro SD card reader, headphone jack, and DC charging port. The card reader reads and plays (through the factory installed media player app) mp3 files and mp4 files on any micro SD card I place in it. I tried placing a micro SD card with other file formats (apk/pdf/epub) on it but nothing happens besides a notification saying, "SD card mounted." I am looking for a method that will have any APK ( specifically a file explorer app) on a micro SD card I insert auto-install or at least have the "install" dialog box pop up in order to expand the capabilities of this crappy tablet. Thank you for any and all assistance.
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Okay, thanks for the explanation. I can tell you now, without any doubt whatsoever, that you cannot do what you're asking. You hit the nail on the head when you called it a "crappy tablet".
Without USB you're left with no options other than to install what it already allows you to install. Honestly, I'd say ditch it and get another cheap tablet, but make sure it just has regular Android on it and is not locked down.
Crap
Thanks for the information. I love saving a buck or two. I was really hoping to put movies, music, and apps on there for my daughter. I thought for sure I could get file manager on there some way.
Thanks again