Depending if thats whats announced next week. The improvements could mean bigger storage, better camera, LTE compatibility, better battery life, and of course KLP. If they keep it in the same price range I'm all in
Especially if they dont even announce the Nexus 5 release date.
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Depending if thats whats announced next week. The improvements could mean bigger storage, better camera, LTE compatibility, better battery life, and of course KLP. If they keep it in the same price range I'm all in
Especially if they dont even announce the Nexus 5 release date.
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If Google announces that those of us who recently bought a Nexus 4 could upgrade just by returning the one we have, then sure I'll grab the upgrade. Otherwise, I'm happy enough as it is.
Maybe, but probably not. If they do release a heavily upgraded model for the same $299 price point...google better pull an apple and give me something though, considering I just bought a n4 a couple of weeks ago.
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If Google announces that those of us who recently bought a Nexus 4 could upgrade just by returning the one we have, then sure I'll grab the upgrade. Otherwise, I'm happy enough as it is.
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+1
Although I think the idea is a little far fetched. It would be welcome to upgrade since mine is less than a month old.
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Even if it is announced next week we wont even be able to buy one until the fall.
Sort a poll out
SysAdmNj said:
Depending if thats whats announced next week. The improvements could mean bigger storage, better camera, LTE compatibility, better battery life, and of course KLP. If they keep it in the same price range I'm all in
Especially if they dont even announce the Nexus 5 release date.
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If I have to buy a new phone to get an update I'm going to rage, smash my nexus 4 to pieces, and buy an iphone
btw....anyone who knows me knows I wouldn't buy an iphone if apple paid me retail price to take it off their hands. I'm just making a point
If its only the 32gb and LTE spec upgrade I won't bat an eye. On average with T-Mo I'm downloading 6-10mbps. Coming from sprint where that's near their LTE speeds, I will settle with H+ and 16gb just fine!
I doubt I'll upgrade until 2014, as I plan to keep onto this phone for a while. 16GB is more than enough for me and LTE isn't in my are yet.
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If its only the 32gb and LTE spec upgrade I won't bat an eye. On average with T-Mo I'm downloading 6-10mbps. Coming from sprint where that's near their LTE speeds, I will settle with H+ and 16gb just fine!
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Same here. I use the tablet for HD content so I still have nearly 6GB free on my phone and T-Mobile's HSPA+ is, in practice, as fast as Verizon's LTE and faster than Sprint's. LTE is still half baked.
I'll hold for a redesigned phone. Im knid of secretly hoping that LG was bidding but that HTC will win making a Nexus version of the One. Although LG has been the best supporter of the Nexus program so far (outside of the shortages, which were Google's fault).
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If I have to buy a new phone to get an update I'm going to rage, smash my nexus 4 to pieces, and buy an iphone
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Seeing as how Google seems to be good at doing at least two years worth of updates on Nexus devices I think you are safe.
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I doubt I'll upgrade until 2014, as I plan to keep onto this phone for a while. 16GB is more than enough for me and LTE isn't in my are yet.
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Even if they announce the "nexus 5" later this year you will still hold out? It will probably be the same price range and you could still sell the N4 for an ok amount of money.
I will only upgrade if it has a removable battery, 1080P, LTE, and 32/64GB.
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Even if they announce the "nexus 5" later this year you will still hold out? It will probably be the same price range and you could still sell the N4 for an ok amount of money.
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I'm gonna hold out as well. As for the resale. Once the 5 is for sale I'm expecting the resale to drop by at least 30%. This device has the hardware to stay up to date for at least another year.
Wayne Tech Nexus
No real need to upgrade for me. The rumored changes are LTE, 4.3, and more storage. We already have LTE (I get 25Mbps down in an unannounced LTE city), we know 4.3 is going to hit this device shortly after its unveiling, and I'm fine with 16GB storage.
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I don't really miss LTE. Sure, it's nice for downloading files quicker, but I really don't notice a difference in how fast web pages load. The only way though that I could upgrade would be if the current N4 retains some resale value.
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The only thing that would interest me is a bigger battery. I could care less about LTE. I don't need an additional radio killing my battery even faster. As for more storage? Not necessary. I don't keep a bunch of junk on my phone and only one nandroid so I regularly have between 2 and 4 GB free.
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I don't like iPhone just because of that( well and iOS sucks and the market sucks and I'm not a 12 year old girl) but honestly I would be all over it if it had more storage and LTE.
Carbonized and francofied N4
The HSPA+ is not available everywhere in Chicago area. You get a lot of E or 3G. Let alone the LTE..
if itll have 32gb and better battery, im gonna upgrade. otherwise im sticking with the 'old' one, dont care about lte (hspa+ is perfectly enough) and im happy with the camera.
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I already get t mo lte and all my music is on Google play so to me unless there's like a 64gb I wouldn't even think of it I'm more interested in what the new N7 will be like
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Hey guys,
Some of you know me from the s2, galaxy nexus, s3 ,etc review area. I usually post videos of case reviews and stuff and well just bought this new phone
So I shot 2 videos (because of the lack of cases yet)
My first one is this one.. The iphone 5 vs the NExus 4 .
http://youtu.be/E22FEVrtw58
it was obvious who was gonna win as im a google fan, but it was fun to play with both and been able to compare them
Enjoy!
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Hey guys,
Some of you know me from the s2, galaxy nexus, s3 ,etc review area. I usually post videos of case reviews and stuff and well just bought this new phone
So I shot 2 videos (because of the lack of cases yet)
My first one is this one.. The iphone 5 vs the NExus 4 .
http://youtu.be/E22FEVrtw58
it was obvious who was gonna win as im a google fan, but it was fun to play with both and been able to compare them
Enjoy!
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Sweet! Thanks man :good:
I didn't think the N4 came with headphones?
Was an iPhone user for nearly 5 years but it came to a point that it was just too small, and the iPhone 5 did not remedy this.
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I didn't think the N4 came with headphones?
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It doesn't
I'm so sorry guys you are correct .don't even know why I said it did.
It does NOT come with headphones..just didn't go through the nexus box as I usually do and was more interested in the phone he he.
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I didn't think the N4 came with headphones?
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Correct . I will edit that part of the video
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Was an iPhone user for nearly 5 years but it came to a point that it was just too small, and the iPhone 5 did not remedy this.
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My biggest problem is the fact that its the same thing over and over and over . Its very boring .and the phone is too narrow
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My biggest problem is the fact that its the same thing over and over and over . Its very boring .and the phone is too narrow
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they've got a major OS interface overhaul in the works at the very least, especially given the departure of Scott Forstall who was a huge proponent of the skeuomorphic elements while the rest of senior management was less than thrilled by it.
Its time has come, and I've heard a surprising number of non-technical, average users say they as switching to Android just because they are "bored" with the iPhone and iOS, despite it probably being the best choice for them. Interesting when customers are jumping ship just because they want to see something new, not even because they need it.
Things are going to get interesting over the next 2 to 3 years, that's for sure.
iphone 5
iPhone 5. Nexus 4 does not have 4G LTE. The iPhone is also made of a strong, durable aluminum so it could last longer than the Nexus 4.
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iPhone 5. Nexus 4 does not have 4G LTE. The iPhone is also made of a strong, durable aluminum so it could last longer than the Nexus 4.
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Then why are you in this forum?
Your argument is one-sided and ignores that the Nexus has benefits over the iPhone too. They are both great devices that excel in their own regard.
Ok, I have both of these right now and have been going back and forth between the two.
Here are my thoughts.
First of all I have everything Apple, iPads, Macbook, iMac's and AppleTV's.
The iPhone 5 is fast and "just works" without doing anything to it. iMessage is a great feature and I can text from any of the above listed devices, except the AppleTV of course, this is a big plus for me.
The iPhone 5 has a better camera and video recorder, I have done some test shots in the backyard and the pics and vids are crisper and cleaner on the iPhone 5.
The iP5 has a nice home button, I've found in the past few days using the N4, that when I pick it up its hard to tell which end is which end and to find the Power/Unlock key I usually have to twist it around to get it right.
The N4 screen glass is almsot too smooth, its kinds too slippery to text on, but I prefer the keyboard to the IP5's.
The N4 has the best to date software out there, I love JB 4.2 blows anything else out there out of the water.
The battery is better on the iP5, mainly because its never doing anything, there is no Google Now, no widgets nada running in the background. It is 1:40PM and I've had the N4 off the charger since 8am, and just with normal use the battery is already at 66%, which the iP5 is still in the 90's. But since I normally charge everynight, as long as I can get thru the day I'm happy.
Call quality is good on both, the speaker is louder and clearer on the iP5.
The N4 actually does pretty good without the LTE of the iP5, webpages load pretty good and even though I now how fast the LTE is on the Ip5 it wasn't too bad using the N4.
I'm really torn here, the N4 has Jb and 4.2 at the top of the list going for it, the hardware is good but not great.
The iP5 is a slightly better all around but is just, yawn too stale these days.
I've played with a new HTC One X + but I can't stand Sense and the UI, but that phone IMO is slightly better then the N4 and it also has JB, but only version 4.1.
Just my 2 cents.....
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iPhone 5. Nexus 4 does not have 4G LTE. The iPhone is also made of a strong, durable aluminum so it could last longer than the Nexus 4.
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N4 does have LTE. Sorry to bust your bubble
Crapple is last to talk about LTE. Bahahaha
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luckylui said:
N4 does have LTE. Sorry to bust your bubble
Crapple is last to talk about LTE. Bahahaha
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Yes and no
It does work on 1700 and 2100 MHz bands but on other countries like Canada . In the US it won't work yet until they launch band 4 on tmo (att is already licensed for it)
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TheFiveDots said:
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they've got a major OS interface overhaul in the works at the very least, especially given the departure of Scott Forstall who was a huge proponent of the skeuomorphic elements while the rest of senior management was less than thrilled by it.
Its time has come, and I've heard a surprising number of non-technical, average users say they as switching to Android just because they are "bored" with the iPhone and iOS, despite it probably being the best choice for them. Interesting when customers are jumping ship just because they want to see something new, not even because they need it.
Things are going to get interesting over the next 2 to 3 years, that's for sure.
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You're absolutely right. IOS is gonna do a major UI overhaul because they don't have a choice but to do so. Its been looking pretty much the same since it came out 5 years ago. Android keeps evolving and getting better, IOS is also great but too boring. Like you said the next few years are gonna be super exciting and we , the consumers , are gonna love it! Look out for WP mobile too.
As far as the nexus 4 vs iphone 5, they are both great phones but like the OP said in his video, the nexus suits me better. But gotta give credit where credit is due, iphone 5 is insanely fast especially when it comes to web browsing.
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Yes and no
It does work on 1700 and 2100 MHz bands but on other countries like Canada . In the US it won't work yet until they launch band 4 on tmo (att is already licensed for it)
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There is no "yes and no" as to whether something has LTE. The phone has LTE. Whether or not your carrier uses the bands the phone supports is another story. But the phone still has LTE regardless of whether your carrier uses those bands.
Thoughtful said:
There is no "yes and no" as to whether something has LTE. The phone has LTE. Whether or not your carrier uses the bands the phone supports is another story. But the phone still has LTE regardless of whether your carrier uses those bands.
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Indeed. The phone has a "LTE Chip" so its pretty much "a" LTE phone. It just isn't working properly on US carriers. Its there but not working right now. I'm glad tho, that it has LTE and I won't have to invest in a LTE phone when T-Mobile does push LTE!
Stokkkked.
Winwin situation right here.
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Thoughtful said:
There is no "yes and no" as to whether something has LTE. The phone has LTE. Whether or not your carrier uses the bands the phone supports is another story. But the phone still has LTE regardless of whether your carrier uses those bands.
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True I see your point .correct there is lte just not usable yet
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iPhone 5. Nexus 4 does not have 4G LTE. The iPhone is also made of a strong, durable aluminum so it could last longer than the Nexus 4.
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Wrong. IPhone is encased in glass, just like the nexus. It has am aluminum rim, but that is actually more likely to damage the phone if dropped as the rim of the nexus 4 is rubber, significantly more shock absorbent. The nexus does indeed have an lte radio inside, its just not enabled out of the box because only one gsm carrier uses it. Besides, the bottleneck on browsing and download speed is generally the storage medium and processing speed, and the nexus 4 trumps the iPhone in processing power, if not storage write speed as well, providing a faster browsing experience. LTE and hspa+ have rarely shown any real world speed differences, the main difference is in latency, which largely depends on processor speed as well. It ends up just being a power hog with mostly unnoticeable performance increases. In general I think the nexus 4 trumps the iPhone.
In a year I have to switch to all apple products to go into sound engineering, but I may stick with android phones because the iPhone just isn't there. I'm going to get a Mac and an iPad but I won't buy an iPhone until they bring it up to spec with the latest android phones.
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The iPhone 4 and 4s was glass, but the iPhone 5 has a soft-touch aluminum backing.
I phone 5 also has LTE.
I've had my N4 for a about 4 days. I've only had one Android device previously, a Nexus S which I bought at launch nearly two years ago, and which I've been using ever since then. I've played around with some other Android devices here and there like the GS2, GS3, OneX, OneS, and Galaxy Nexus. This new N4 blows everything out of the water, IMO. It is SO fast and smooth, and the screen quality/resolution leaves nothing to be desired. The form factor is beautiful, camera takes great photos (but I'm no photo-expert), video functions work great, etc. Even though there's no improved functionality (or features) compared to my NS, the user experience is just so much better.
Also, HSPA+ speeds are so good, that I can't imagine why anybody would complain about lack of LTE. I'm consistently getting between 8 and 14Mbps download speeds.
Nice work Google and LG!
It really is a blessing for those who only need 16GB and have T-mobile
I've had mine since last week and it's been the smoothest and fastest android experience. I really enjoy how everything works so effortlessly. Battery life has been better than I expected too.
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Kushblow said:
It really is a blessing for those who only need 16GB and have T-mobile
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I have all my music housed in Google Play Music (on cloud), and my photos set to upload to Google+, and I don't have any high-storage apps or games, so my storage needs are very small. I could have easily made do with the 8GB version.
ddb540 said:
I have all my music housed in Google Play Music (on cloud), and my photos set to upload to Google+, and I don't have any high-storage apps or games, so my storage needs are very small. I could have easily made do with the 8GB version.
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Photos are resized when uploaded to Google+, with the longest side being reduced to 2000px. Just in case you've overlooked this and delete the originals!
I recall that Dropbox auto upload retains the original image, and doesn't consume any of your space, or rather they give you another 500MB every 500MB you auto upload!
LadFromWales85 said:
Photos are resized when uploaded to Google+, with the longest side being reduced to 2000px. Just in case you've overlooked this and delete the originals!
I recall that Dropbox auto upload retains the original image, and doesn't consume any of your space, or rather they give you another 500MB every 500MB you auto upload!
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Good tip, thanks!
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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If those cameras are better it does not mean the n4 camera is not good. Why so harsh?
Edit: And what are you basing this on anyway? You don't seem to own them all.
akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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Ppl also don't use real cameras or they wouldnt praise any phone....
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Ppl also don't use real cameras or they wouldnt praise any phone....
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Doesn't have to be national geographic Pulitzer quality in order to be a compelling shot, or just good enough to tell everyone what you ate for lunch with a good quality image.
akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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Interesting, I've used all three of the cameras you listed and I think the N4 displays much truer colors. I guess if oversaturation is your thing go with the Samsung. The OneX camera is comparable to the N4s
Love the Nexus 4 haters.....
Newsflash, not one Nexus owner bought the phone because of the camera. Like most high end devices the Nexus has a great camera that does the job just as good if not better than most out there.
Can't the OP be happy with his new phone?
Funny bring up the camera because its the only thing on the S3 that's even in the N4s league. Oh and what did you pay on contract for the S3? I know unlocked they're around 550. Sucker.
I have the N4 and came from the Verizon GNex. The only concern I had when I bought the phone was going to be the lack of LTE. I have the N4 on T-Mobile and running side by side speed tests, I have to say that the N4 beat the Gnex almost every time.
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I don't understand why people care so much about LTE when the speeds us carriers provide over LTE are nowhere near what the technology is capable of, and often times slower than real world HSPA+ speeds. I'd much rather use HSPA+ if that means better battery life, better coverage, and often times faster speeds. Besides, HSPA+ is already sometimes faster than my home connection. I really don't see the need for 10+Mbps mobile connections at the moment, especially if I'm paying $100+ a month only to get a 1-2Gb cap on Verizon or ATT.
I am glad you like it but as you said you have been on Nexus S for 2 years and playing around here and there with other devices isnt really using and therefore you dont know if something better is out there or not. Enjoy your phone, just dont exaggerate it.
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I am glad you like it but as you said you have been on Nexus S for 2 years and playing around here and there with other devices isnt really using and therefore you dont know if something better is out there or not. Enjoy your phone, just dont exaggerate it.
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As another user coming from the Nexus S it doesn't surprise me how it is difficult to satisfy people that have to keep jumping to the next latest and greatest device. Over the last few weeks it has constantly amazed me how many people are ditching really great recent phones such as the S3 and one x to get something only slightly newer and (not in everyone's experience) better. I embraced my Nexus S for all it's shortcomings and evolved it through software over 18 months and the great thing for me now is I can truly appreciate how great a leap forward my new phone is. Personally I think it's a suckers game to keep changing phones every few months and unsurprising how much more critical such users will be of their newly acquired hardware.
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Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.
EvoYas said:
Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.
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It's definitely a hobby for me as well - but mine is about Android and how it adapts and evolves. My Nexus S is running a later version of Android than anything other than the N4. The hardware has always been secondary to me and I guess that's how we differ. I'm sure I will see several phones overtake me in the coming months - meanwhile I will enjoy getting the most out of the N4 until the right time comes again to move on.
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Well to some of us its a very expensive hobby. I have as of now 3 phones including the 8GB N4. I enjoy them all really, no single phone will have everything.
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Hobby for me as well.. And a damn expensive one too lol. I buy all my phones sim free/ unlocked so i dont get tied to any carrier and have owned a lot of Android devices.
I was gona give the N4 a pass, but since I live in Canada i can take advantage of LTE. Just ordered a Nexus 4 16gb when it became available earlier today and have a shipping time of 1-2 weeks. Hope it gets delivered before Christmas!
LTE is a big plus for ME. Out of the 8 popular networks here, 6 of them offer LTE. If its easy for someone to say that he/she dont care for LTE, chances are they never tried it or live in a poorly covered area. But it is understandable since LTE coverage is limited compared to HSPA. Luckily for me i live in an LTE area and yes i am spoiled by it. I even traded my Tegra 3 HTC One X for the LTE Snapdragon one. Just my 2 cents
LTE is amazing no doubts, and I am lucky enough to have an unlimited data plan from way back in the day ao I am grandfathered in as long as I dont upgrade the phone on the contract price which I havent in ages and I dont plan to anyway. But yes, LTE speeds are a God send.
akarol said:
The OP obviously didn't use the camera on the GS2, GS3, OneX, etc. He wouldn't be praising the N4 camera if he did. Fact.
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The gs3 camera is cool but you can only use it with two hands. When I tried to take one hand they would always come out kinds blurry. I think it's because how big the phone is and the shape it kinda slides in your hand.
Loving my nexus though. It is easier to hold.
What made you choose this device instead of others? Will you select your next smartphone based on the same criteria or do you care more about some other spec?
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The reason I chose my N4 was that it was a nexus device with awesome specs and a great price... U can't get a better bang for the buck phone.
My next phone has to be top end in specs and also at a good price point compared to the competition... Idk of it'll be N5 or X phone but I don't think I'll get rid of my N4 regardless
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Clean android, photosphere and updates. Hardware whatever, I dont feel any big performance difference when using s3, note 2, s4, nexus 4 etc ...
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Mainly the specs and price, similar specs unlocked cost 600$+
Also I had a Galaxy ****phone with 2010 specs
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pure google experience and match it with my nexus 7. both have nexus logo at the back. i like my stuff in-sync. haha. also, apps are designed mainly to match the stock look, so having the dev phone is awesome. less problem thinking on why this app not working/supported cuz dev use nexus mainly.
plus its cheap. and design rocks!
I needed some more performance since my HTC Incredible S got a bit slow with only one core. I didn't want to spend 200 € more for a branded interface that I would replace with another ROM anyway. With the N4 I have great performance, solid quality and a clean ANdroid which I don't have to replace keeping my warranty.
Just ordered a black N4 (don't get the white phone craze). My faithful Nexus S no longer meets my needs. My main reasons for the 4 are:
Unlocked
A Nexus device, so hopefully will have current updates for a while
Good price, extra features of S4 not important to me, especially for almost twice the cost
Only thing I don't like is the screen size. 4" screen perfect for me, kept holding out for a top end 4.3" android. And yes, I've used bigger phones. After I saw the S4 mini specs I gave up, guess I'll get used to it. Anyhow, given I wear reading glasses now its probably a good thing?
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Price and just how rubbish Sony were at supporting the Xperia S threw me over the edge.
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
I came from the LG G2X and all I wanted was a damn OS update. With the only update the G2X ever received being a whopping 2.3 to 2.4 I decided I'd stay away from non nexus devices the best I could. The build quality from LG is pretty nice, good balance between appearance and hand feel so I never once questioned that the N4 would be the perfect phone for me. What do I look for in a phone? Top tier performance and the quickest OS updates.
2gb ram for this awesome price
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In this order:
1. Unlocked
2. Nexus
3. Top flight phone for $350, how could you resist?
Loving it on straight talk. I love the phone almost as much as the fact that my bill is half what it was before.
One of my main reasons for choosing the N4 is knowing this phone will get updates for a long time from google but others are:
Build quality.
Price point for a unlocked phone.
Amount of development.
AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
I'm an aspiring Android developer (currently a .NET developer)
The sleek look
Came from iPhone 4, my only other smartphone I've ever owned. Basically debated whether to get the Nexus 4 or SGS4, thank god I went with Nexus 4. Had to switch from Verizon, but well worth it. No more Verizon red tape to deal with ever again, or any contracts.
Stories said:
Former Verizon user. Saw the price of the N4. Knew I'd make my money back within 4 months after switching to T-Mobile. Broken contract. Win.
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If you arent on a contracted plan with T-Mobile, unless you are on the $30 plan with no minutes, consider one of the MNVOs. Im on Straight Talk after trying T-Mobile for a bit and the service is IDENTICAL. However, the bill from unlimited plan to unlimited plan isnt.
Cheap and decent specs. That's all.
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AOSP
Price (seriously, extremely great value)
Customization, Google WANTS you to flash new ROMs and stuff to this device
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This.
After flashing cm7, then cm9 and 10 on my Fascinate, I realized AOSP is how Android phones are supposed to be. I love the clean interface, speed and smoothness and stability. My phone after that was the Gnex, so naturally I upgraded to the next nexus. I know there are AOSP roms on a ton of other phones, but the reliability seems to be perfected on the nexus devices, since they are built for AOSP. Also, there is a huge amount of developer support.
needed something after my N9 and really didn't want to go back to a locked down phone.
I bought the N4 due to the price, pure android and the ability to enable LTE on T-Mobile. I couldn't be happier coming from Sprint. It's a night and day difference.
I have a N5 ordered, to be shipped Dec 3.
With shipping, the 32gb comes to $460 CAD. I currently have a N4 16gb that can be sold for $250 I'm guessing.
Since I've been running Rastakat 4.4 on the N4 with ART enabled, it feels really smooth and the battery life also seems improved - almost as much as the N5 battery life estimates.
I do love a nice screen and wouldn't mind the extra pixels on the N5 and having a touch thinner device.
Am I alone in this?
You are not alone
I am seriously considering getting the N5. Since the N4 is close to its 18 month support, I am probably going to upgrade.
Why don't you save the money and buy the next Nexus phone instead? N5 is nice but not worth the $200 upgrade. I also updated my N4 to 4.4 with ART and it is so smooth.
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If you have the extra money I see no reason not to upgrade. Me personally, I'm gonna wait till next year when they start releasing 64-bit phones, until then I'm fine with my N4
I don't play much videos on the phone, I don't use my Nexus 4 for the sole purpose of web browsing, I don't play many games that require any fancy screen, my Nexus 4 isn't broken.
And I don't feel the $200 upgrade is worth it.
These points sure convinced me when I had to cancel my pre-order.
I'm staying with the n4. The biggest upgrade on the n5 was LTE but the n4 has LTE in Canada (you quoted Canadian prices so I'm assuming you are in Canada)
I'm either getting the next nexus or a n5 when google clears them out next fall
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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
If you sell your devicae for 250$ and get the nexus 5, it's only 200$ you're spending that that doesn't seem too bad off, if i could fine someone to buy my nexus 4 (in clean condition, has had a cover as well as screen protector since day of purchase) then i would more than be willing to sell my nexus 4 in favor for a nexus 5. But i can't be bothered searching for a buyer, that's the only reason i'm not doing so. Haha!
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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
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I agree. I still have my Nexus 4 and do not feel N5 is much better. Unfortunately I need Wifi calling at home so I finally bought an LG G2 for $450 from eBay(almost brand new with a manufacturing date of less than 2 months) That is about the same price as a 32GB N5 but with much more. For pure android experience, I have enough from N7, N4, and Nook HD+ on CM 10.1. For Wifi calling, taking pictures, and traveling, LG G2 meets my needs much better due to the camera and larger battery. I wish I could sell my N4 for $250. My local price is down to $150-$200 due to too many people selling it... I might just keep it as a backup phone or test platform.
I also thought about upgrading..but with a 2014 car payment I think I'll skip it.
Running 4.4 and its real nice and smooth.
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In the nexus 5 forum I'm seeing terrible battery stats compared to n4. Guys are posting as low as 3hrs max screen time, much less than I get on lte. With art I doubt you'll constantly notice a difference between this and the 5.
I will upgrade for 4K recording like note 3, Flex screen or 1440/2160P screen, 3gb ram, and cpu that can beat A7x.
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Got one for my daughter as she was on my old iPhone 4. I used it for a couple of days first. In day to day usage, I can't see any difference tbh. Honestly, wait till N6 so you feel the benefit of the upgrade. Plus the camera (while taking better pictures) is slow as molasses. It's just not that compelling an upgrade and build quality is not nearly the same, it feels bit Samsung-ish...
It's not a bad phone at all, but it's just not that big a jump from N4.
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Nexus 5 is still a 'meh' upgrade. The spec bump is nice but it could, no, should've been better. Especially the battery, that part is a big turn off. Design wise, though fragile, Nexus 4 still looks sexier.
A lot of interesting things are gonna happen in 2014, I'd wait till mid 2014 to see what to upgrade to.
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I wanted the n5 solely for the camera and 32gb storage. I'm debating on if I should upgrade. I kept my n4 in near perfect condition so I can get 200+ for it. But I'm still not sure if I want to spend basically $225, which is a good deal imo, but I also like hoarding my money
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It's your money, buy it if you want, if not don't buy it.
I always try and come up with reasons what I would change in my current phone/gadget and see how the phone I am considering fares with the new needs.
So if I were to look at the N4 i'd change:
- Battery life
- Camera
- Slightly bigger screen
- Louder speaker
- Louder ear piece speaker
- More space (32gb)
So speed wise its great. It's smooth and I doubt I need a processor bump that much. I dont need LTE.
So lets see how the N5 stacks up:
- Battery - marginally better. Or maybe even not.
- Camera - sure it's better in theory. But reading reviews makes me think that I will be changing something that is horrible to something that is simply isn't very good.
- Screen seems to be a big improvement, but again viewing angles seem to have been a bit meh
- Speaker on the N5 is actually quiter than the one in N4, so a big no no
- Earpiece speaker on the N5 doesnt seem to be any better than in the N4, only maybe there is no N4 static.
- N5 sold where I am from come only in 16gb versions, so...
So following logic and not the simple desire of owning a new gadget, I will be skipping the N5. It simply isnt the phone that will make me replace my N4
Depends on what you expect to use your N5. I personally will stay with N4 until it dies
Personally, I wait for the N6. The N5 is nice and has stunning specs, but it lacks the 'wow-factor'. Nothing wows me on that phone. Yeh, the screen is nice and the SoC is a beast, but still, it lacks something special. Something unique.
One of my friends bought the N5 and I could use it for some time. My first opinion was that it is not a great upgrade for me. My N4 is still a great phone. Its smoth, quick, no lags and I can run every app that I need.
Unless the build a better battery which a big improvement I wont buy a new Phone.
For me it´s not worth the 200+ $ but its your desicion.
I have a N4 and had the N5 for a week. I decided to return it because the new email app has a bug which doesn't allow anyone to use Exchange email - endless sync loop which doesn't push new messages and kills the battery. I personally couldn't get Exchange email on my phone and that was a deal breaker. Take a look and you'll see numerous threads about it and not much of a response from Google.
Just bought a new house, wife's going crazy buying furniture, shopping for the wife's luxury SUV, and our first kid is due in less than 2 months.
I'll survive without an upgrade this year.
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So I currently own a S4 on Verizon. I've been wanting the X and my dad said he'd buy my S4 and I found someone with a brand new Moto X 16 gb for $300. I really love the design, nexus like look, and special features of the X. I've played with one at best buy an it is really fast. I'm just worried about a new one coming out soon. I know there will always be new technology but since this has been out for a few months, I'm skeptical. Also the 16gb worries me. I think I've read you're left with 11gb new. I just feel I'm going backwards lol
So I figured I'd ask the users of Moto Xs and see what you guys think. Not really asking if its better than the S4, just if its smart or not to get one at this point. It actually won't cost me anything an I'd actually make some money from selling my dads current S3.
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The trend for Apple and Samsung has been to release a new phone every year (so we should officially hear about the Galaxy S5 in March)
Considering the Moto X hit USA Carrier shelves starting in the tail end of August, if Moto follows that "new release every year" trend, then you're not even halfway through the X's shelf life yet. (only about 4 months of 12).
So if you're just worried about "timing" and you like the phone, then get it... otherwise consider....
Coming from a Galaxy S4, consider the smaller screen. Can your eyes adjust? Non-Removable battery (but the X has better life than my VZW GS4), Camera differences (at first GS4 was noticeably better, but with the recent updates, the X's camera matches the GS4's outdoor and good light abilities, it still lags in low light a little), no removable memory slot (so your MP3's, pix, videos have to take up space in the X's main memory).
Out of the box, a 16gig demo X I had for a while had more memory/storage available than my 16gig GS4 (11gig vs 9). I would still opt for the 32gig model X due to lack of removable Micro-SD slot if you want to keep stuff locally on your phone. That being said, I have friends who got 16gig models, haven't filled them up, and are perfectly happy. Me, I have 7 gig of music on my phone and take lots of pictures of my son (who just turned 5).
The X is my daily driver. I get phones free for my job and for a while via the VCC (don't ask) for personal use. (full list of my phones is -> HERE) The X was the first phone *I purchased* since I got my Moto E815 back in 2006. After using a carrier supplied 16gig Demo X for two months, I purchased the Dev Edition X for Verizon (full price) in early November, and its been my daily driver since. If you look at my phone list, and consider an X (first the demo and now my Dev X) has been on my personal line since early September when I originally got the demo X, you should get an idea of how much I like this phone.
I lived with a 16gb Nexus 4 for a year and unless you have a large music collection, keep many movies on your device or download many 1gb+ games then you will be fine with 16gb. I hovered around 5gb left while keeping one or two full backups as I was flashing roms alot on the N4, that said I was deleting stuff on a regular basis to keep memory free.
If you plan on rooting I would personally recommend the Developer Edition, unlocking and gaining root is very simple and you retain your full Motorola warranty even after unlocking. It is also 32gb, selling the S3 & S4 you should be close to it not costing you anything.
Thank you guys a lot. Very nice info. Yeah, timing is a good reason I was hesitant to pull the trigger. But knowing its still not half way through is nice to know.
Smaller screen, I believe I can adjust. I didn't have any issues when I played with it in best buy. Now I'm sure I'll realize it more as I use it more but I think it'll be okay. Its more knowing I'm going from 1080p to 720, but I know its not a huge difference an really only noticeable if you set the devices next to one another. I don't store anything on my phone. All music is through Google music. Though I keep a couple playlists of about 100 songs each stored on phone through Google music, but not a huge deal since I have unlimited data. I also never change out batteries so the removal one isn't a deal breaker.
Lastly I Dont bother rooting my phones anymore cause I always end up tinkering too much lol so I just want a solid, fast device. I'm just tired of Samsung's slow UI cover. Plus I hear so much praise on the X with its features that I want to try. Just worry downgrading in specs but I know performance is just as good as the S4. Main thing is the screen I guess.
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The colors on the Moto X are better imo as well as many other people then the S4. As far as specs just remember this might be the first time the software and hardware have been trully optimized for Android, when that's done there is no need to use more processor cores just like Apple has been doing with I-phones.
I have been a flashing junkie since I bought an original Droid, I rooted my Dev Edition for the main purpose of using Titanium Backup for games and apps in case there is a bad update in the Play Store. I found using Xposed with the Gravity Box module gave me practically every option I usually looked for in a rom while using the stock software, I have since flashed all my families devices back to stock and use Gravity Box.
I don't think you have to worry about Moto releasing a new phone until late summer/fall, they know that style of releasing phones every few months doesn't work for them as it does for Samsung. Producing quality handsets and supporting them with very fast updates is winning Motorola new/past customers and the way they are treating the Android community is something that the other OEM's should strive to emulate.
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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tu3218 said:
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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Thank you so much but I'd be buying it from someone off Craigslist for $300, brand new in package. But I appreciate the offer.
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I don't see how the Moto x2 could be much better. LOL
Plus it'll cost way more.
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Absolutely. The X is the first phone I don't really care what the internal specs are or feel compelled to switch to CM or any other roms. I love it.
S3 ->Note 2 -> s4 -> HTC one -> nexus 4 -> moto x
My point is I've slowly downgraded the spec sheet and have no regrets. Comparing apples to apples. Every device listed was running AOSP/AOKP/CM and the last 2 phones have been by far the smoothest even though on paper they don't quite stack up to the others. Battery life is above average but not great in my opinion but the ergonomics of this phone is one of the best I've had in a long time
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Best phone I've ever owned. It's so fast and fluid even with the "inferior" specs. Not only that, but coming from a Droid DNA with its 1080p screen, I prefer the Moto X screen with the much nicer colors and I can't even tell the difference in resolution.
Get the Moto X.
Putting in my 2 cents,
I have had a Galaxy note 2 with a 5.5in screen for the past year. I love the phone, mostly due to the amazing battery life and the large screen.
I bought my wife a Moto X last week. I have since rooted it, and have been tinkering with it. I gotta say, I want one. I don't really mind the difference in screen size that much. Battery life is just as good, if not better (remains to be further tested). Always on voice controls are super cool. And you have kitkat.
I wouldn't pay attention to the so called "specs". Yeah it's a dual core compared to my quad core Note 2, but in reality it is just as snappy (if not snappier)
Plus, my Note 2's compass sensor has always been dysfunctional. It never was steady, just jumps around. When I saw Windy Day and how flawlessly it worked with the built-in sensors, I was blown away.
I think Motorola is on the right path. With the recently lowered prices, near stock experience and the unlocked developer edition (on Verizon, which I still can't believe those bastards allowed it) Moto X is an awesome phone with great value. I especially like that Moto is going for improving the overall experience rather than getting into a pissing contest over specs.
I hate, really *HATE* Verizon, but let's face it, they have the best LTE network and I still happen to have unlimited data. I especially hate their practice of not letting anybody else sell devices that are compatible with Verizon's network (ie. Nexus 7). I hate the fact that I can't simply buy a cheap new phone from the manufacturer, but instead have to buy them from Verizon or their approved vendors like BestBuy for much more than what they would cost direct from the manufacturer.
I honestly can't believe that Motorola was able to price the Moto X at $399 with no contract on Verizon. Verizon likes to say that the phones actually cost $700 but you're getting a $400 discount when you sign a contract and pay $300 for the phone, when in reality, the phone would cost $400 and you're only getting a hundred bucks for signing the contract. Kudos to Moto. I hope it sets the stage for other manufacturers
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Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7".,
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Verizon has the moto x for 50 bucks right now with a 2 year contract. I just bought one for my son. My wife and I both have the DE phones I paid 450 each on motorola.com...I have unlimited on both. Best phone I have ever owned hands down.
Well my original offer fell through but I'm suppose to be getting a 32gb version tomorrow for $350. So fingers crossed!
I never use multiwindow on my S4 so won't miss that. And the IR blaster, very cool but I only use when screwing around with friends TVs lol I think in the end, the moto x has more useful extras than the galaxy devices.
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If you're worried about space, it does come with 50gb added to your drive storage on Google
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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This phone is hands-down the best that I've ever used. Not only in performance, but features too.
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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If you have the mindset about not getting a phone because its going to be outdated or not the newest, shiniest in a year your never going to get a phone!!!
The phone cycle is practically six months or so.
To be honest, phones are hitting their critical ass point ad far as specs go. When all these reviews talk about this phone is faster than that one they're talking millisecond at this point.
Find a phone that you like size wise, screen looks good to you and just buy it.
If you don't ur always gonna be waiting for the next new thing.
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