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What are the lagfixes longterm consequences? I've herd some unsettling things about it...ranging from bricked phone to catching on fire and exploding,
Now I'm asking since I'm planing to get this or the desireHd and frankly sacred the crap outta me.And since theres like a 80% chance I'm gonna have the lag if I buy it I have to know what are the risks , is it like the regular danger of rooting or something much worse?
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I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems. The phone is unreliable because of the Force Close errors. I was locked out side waited for my phone to boot so I could check a friends buzzer code. I had to put my phone in recovery mode and do a factory reset and lose all my un-backed up personal data on the note pad. That was a big Epic Fail moment for my phone. As much as I hate apple and Itunes at least it works when i needed my Iphone.
Lol, it won't make it catch on fire. If anything it might brick your phone, which wouldn't be a severe brick, easy to recover from using Odin. I reckon the chances of anything going wrong are really low.
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I no longer would recommend the i9000m to people just to many Force Close problems.
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Must be something screwed up on your phone because I get no force close errors.
I don't believe there's any real harm using a lagfix. All it does is use a different filesystem, which is actually proven, fast, and reliable, unlike Samsung's own RFS system which seems to be pure crap.
I'm using z4mod. So far is seems reliable and performance is amazing
LOL at "catching on fire and exploding". Whoever you heard that from should lose all credibility if they were serious when saying that
Generally it shouldn't do any HW damage, i.e. NAND wear down, since RFS (as it was mentioned) is pure crap, based on FAT as rumor has it. I believe that each lagFix that uses variations of ext fs will in fact span NAND life.
As for catching fire, etc. This happens on other devices also and more faulty hardware rather than OS problem, so installing lag fix has in my opinion only advantages.
(Well and a hindrance since if you change firmwares often the you need to uninstall the lag fix).
That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Just read some spanish forum about how the phone currupts every 4 or so weeks is that true? Imean i dont wanna have to restore every month.
I can just imagine my wife saying: Whatchu doin hunny? Ahh nothing dear, its just that day of the month i have to restore my phone XDD
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That took a load of mind ...kinda
Hey did you guys ever do a poll how much people are satisfied(or not) with sgs/lag/gps/general problems?
Like I said I want to buy this (samoled FTW) but I'm concerned about all these problems.
If you go to the hero forum lots of people are reporting a craploads of problems which I never had (seriously haven't had an issue since I bought it )
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Maybe not polled as to say, but if you take in consideration that 5 millions+ units where sold, it's not that big of a number. Frankly, I think the "Plus" outwieght the "cons" largely.
Just don't get it "used" and be sure you can exchange / service it if needed, kinda sucks that you'd spend hundreds without any safe net! But that goes for about anything!
True but still...
And is it 5million excluding the fascinate/captivate/epic variants?
I don't like to buy used , in my experience there's always something the seller isn't telling and will comeback to bite you on the ass.
But about my previous question...is the vodoo fix harmful and is the thing about it corrupting data true?
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Hi, I'm totally confused with all these new roms being released by multiple people. Do these reap any benefits? are they customized roms? are there new themes or something like the android roms and old WM phone roms? Sorry for the newb-like question, I just wanted to get things straightened out because they SEEM to be like factory ROMs but in diff languages or something?
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Hi, I'm totally confused with all these new roms being released by multiple people. Do these reap any benefits? are they customized roms? are there new themes or something like the android roms and old WM phone roms? Sorry for the newb-like question, I just wanted to get things straightened out because they SEEM to be like factory ROMs but in diff languages or something?
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I totaly agree with you... it's extremly confusing. I've got a HD7 from O2 Germany, but I'm on t-mobile. The reception of my O2-HD7 is very poor compared to my old HD2, so I would like to switch from the O2-ROM to HTC-Europe version with the newest radio-ROM.... but those threads are so extremly confusing... I don't realy know what EXACTLY to do... flash this, than falsh that... and after that flash this... ;-)
Their simple. Just put some effort into reading it and less into whinning. Just read
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Their simple. Just put some effort into reading it and less into whinning. Just read
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There you go with that whining crack again. WTF is wrong with you? Be more helpful or STFU.
Agree with you guys .. they are confusing that I dont even wanna try
But Yeah I am flash junkie with Android, so many tutorials and so easily done.
Am on O2 UK , but I guess I wait and see what the Official updates bring to us before experimenting with these custom roms.
I so love my BIG HD 7
+1 here.
With WinMo, I could even flash an Android rom and feel comfortable doing it.
With the HD7, just looking at the numbers of schubert roms, I hardly know which one to pick. And if I do pick one, I'm really afraid to even try it. Or if there really is a need to even try it.
But I can understand the enthusiasm of the guys doing the efforts of sharing these roms. It's just that some guys (like myself) are not really that much literate.
And what your doing isnt whining?
There was a point where i looked at it and said **** that. Too much crap there.
But once i sat down and read it properly. It was easy.
I somewhat agree with evolution, they are not difficult to understand if you take your time.
Nevertheless, I think fear & lack of knowledge/experience prevents most people from actually trying them or even bothering to read the whole thing, especially ao for people who have not done this before, I can see how it gets confusing.
I think well organized and newb-friendly threads will definitely make them very popular very quickly..
yeah yeah yeah, read this read that..... all i see on these threads is flash this to get 02UK whatever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876451
I dont see them writing the purpose to flashing these ROMs, you must be confused with my question about "how to flash" vs "the purpose of flashing"
I mean, in the android forums, or the older winmo forums, u can see that they flashed the phone to get some new flashy OS's or to fix out old bugs.
I'm with Goku here. I think it would help people to know what to expect when they flash a rom. Say "if you flash THIS you'll get THESE; 1.), 2.), etc.."
From that list it's like, "flash this rom & find out for yourselves what it'll do to your device." Or if this is the case, at least let it say it is.
all people are getting is updated firmware and radio ware.
Its not custom or anything its just updated software.
Thank you evo =]
One more question, what are the advantages to these updated firmwares and radio's?
Firmware update from HTC and a new Radio.
Theres only a few firmware roms. Most of them just have different radios for you to choose.
The latest O2 Rom i have now has weaker reception but reasonably better battery life than with the stock one.
As i said these roms contain the exact stuff as your one that came from the factory only with different firmware and radio. Radio is the main difference. Other than that i didnt see any performance improvements or anything.
ty evo, that clears up a lot =]
so radio's change signal settings with your provider, correct?
Well finaly someone is making sense,lol .
I was lost too, glad i didnt flash my phone .
One thing this dose not say are these offical so called ROM's Firmware what ever there called
can I flash the phone and use it as if I had it out of the shop, in other words can I play games and buy appllications (NOT JAILBROKE)
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when they talk about "ActiveSync" are they talking about Zune?
or are they talking about "Windows 7 Active Sync"
Check this thread out, it might help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-903769.html
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Check this thread out, it might help you out a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-903769.html
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Ok thanks
So Active Sync is only done when holding down these two buttons
Phone Off
Volume Down Button
Power Button
what one do I need to download to have no branding on it at all I rebranded as telstra who ever they are :S
would like unbraded, think im downloading HTC EU atm
i like to change my X8's ROM everyday i love to try something new and new and than i will select the best ROM for my cute Stock kernel X8
BY doing this every day or once a week can this bring side effects or damages to my X8? or any overall performance related issues???
No.
It wont cause any damage.
and if i ask you to tell the optimum rom, from which you have tried till now,what's your review???
Officially corp via w8
MiniCM7.
The best....
leecorp said:
and if i ask you to tell the optimum rom, from which you have tried till now,what's your review???
Officially corp via w8
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@leecorp
go for froyopro :good:
@ OP.. damage..no..but because every flash will write some files in flash drive..flash drives have limited read write cycles so your flash drive will degrade negligibly but faster.. so almost no effect..
Absolutely no side effects,don't worry
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Your X8 may burst into a ball of flames that is if you charge it while frying it in oil...no, it will not have any side effects. However, keep in mind if you're like me and you need to constantly flash test builds of roms, you may damage your nand..now I have never faced this problem but GDX's dev, eagleeyetom faced this problem...dont worry. This sort of thing is rare
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Your X8 may burst into a ball of flames that is if you charge it while frying it in oil...no, it will not have any side effects. However, keep in mind if you're like me and you need to constantly flash test builds of roms, you may damage your nand..now I have never faced this problem but GDX's dev, eagleeyetom faced this problem...dont worry. This sort of thing is rare
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Thank you for your valuable Information bro
can you teach me how to build Custom ROMs?
+1 to what Rohin said. While this may affect your phone only slightly, it has a great effect on your mind. It is the cause of a disease known as ORD (Obsessive Rom-updating Disorder). I don't mean to scare you, but the only cure doctors were able to find was to break the phone into pieces and to never let the patient near any phone again, especially Android ones.
P.S This may seem like a troll post (well the doctor bit is) but it is actually a fact. Nothing else.
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+1 to what Rohin said. While this may affect your phone only slightly, it has a great effect on your mind. It is the cause of a disease known as ORD (Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder). I don't mean to scare you, but the only cure doctors were able to find was to break the phone into pieces and to never let the patient near any phone again, especially Android ones.
P.S This may seem like a troll post (well the doctor bit is) but it is actually a fact. Nothing else.
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ORD is Obsessive ROM Updating Disorder.
just wipe completely you can change every hour
It's OFD (Obsessive Flashing Disorder), not ORD
Anyways, the main point is it doesn't affect the phone (except in some cases); it affects the mind. It's an addiction. And Rohin would you mind if I nominated you for RC?
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Anyways, the main point is it doesn't affect the phone (except in some cases); it affects the mind. It's an addiction. And Rohin would you mind if I nominated you for RC?
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You Guys scaring ME! What is That!! i am not Addicted.. but when every time i install a ROM i am not comfortable with it! because i am not satisfied with it at some point!
I am looking for a speedy,snappy and full featured ROM that live longer in my Device but AFTER a WEEK... it's Walking... instead of Jetting!!!
Sorry For BAD ENG!
On your site by uploading a rom I always added above the so-called processor. build.prop file by changing the processor to get 825MHz in my case, I was playing it on Froyo rom and reached the max 787mhz
RohinZaraki said:
It's OFD (Obsessive Flashing Disorder), not ORD
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hmm... i think i have this, i'm changing and trying roms all the time every day...
Hello xda. I've been a big selfish user of the stuff provided here for a while, as have many. I own an XPERIA X8 and it's the best phone I've ever owned (ehem.. perhaps because it's the first smartphone I've ever owned). I just wish it was a little better. I enjoyed the stock stuff for a while until my internal storage filled up too much, then I rooted and upgraded it to an easy to install Froyo ROM as it was my first time doing such things (as good as I am with programming PC's, I thought I would surely screw that up). It was great and had kept me happy for over a year, but I didn't realise how old Froyo was until I heard about Jellybean and 'Project Butter' and how it even outperforms old versions of Android. I've been limited in Froyo to relatively basic stuff anyway so I thought since I'd basically installed an android version only one step up from the stock Eclair, there'd be a lot of better versions out there.
This is where my nightmare begun. Since I already had xRecovery, I thought the process would be as simple as "download rom, install in xRecovery". A bit too ambitious, I ended up "soft bricking" my phone and having to fix it by going back to Eclair. Then, somehow, I could not even root the damn thing under the guidance of any tutorial. It's like it suddenly caught an immunity. After ages of meddling I managed to do so and get to the next step. Then the problem occurred that Superuser wasn't kicking in and allowing anything root access. I also had problems getting a new kernel on the phone and ended up only managing to install some random kernels I wasn't even sure supported the rom I was trying to install. I had some more problems trying to install CWM and it was around then I noticed another occurring problem. Apparently for installation of Jellybean, I needed to unlock bootloader, which apparently can't be done on devices with a certain version of motherboard. Mine is 11W41. I heard that this sometimes doesn't matter depending on the specific version, but after all the problems and reading up how hard it would be to recover from a problem if it occurred. So after a long time not finding alternate solutions, I decided to go for something lower.
Ice Cream Sandwich apparently had a similar problem, but I didn't spend long looking (by that time it was really late at night and I just wanted to at least get rid of Eclair again). Eventually I installed Gingerbread, which managed to work well... the second time I tried. The first time I mucked something up and ended up going back to Eclair yet again. Well, now I at least have the GingerXperia Revolution V3 rom installed, but I'm still wondering if this is the best I can do according to the X8. So yeah, that's the rant of my nightmarish story, but this is, ehem, a Q&A... so my question is, before I get too settled with my current phone set-up, is there any better option for my phone? Have I misunderstood some things and I actually do have a way of updating my kernel in order to install a better rom? From a rom, I obviously just want a well-packed version of android (Froyo was way to simplistic, having very few options to improve the experience), which is fast and suitable for every day use. As a bonus I would like it to be swappable so I can increase the RAM with SD memory and increase internal storage size (even with the ability to move apps to the SD, the phone fills up way too fast). I'd be very surprised if I've managed to pick the best way to upgrade my phone.
I know this heavily depends on opinion, so I just want to hear it. If there is better things I can do to it, I could do with a point in the right direction!
i honestly read that long post. welcome to xda mate.
tbh, i haven't tried that particular rom yet. so i can't tell you rom is "better" (which is subjective, if you ask me), so i'll try to answer the other points in your post.
since you have a locked bootloader, we're limited to roms, apps, and tweaks. a different kernel would do wonders to your phone, but since that's out of the question i think the best way to go is how to improve performance using other methods. please note that whatever i write here is my opinion. other users may think differently.
apps: i use mounts2sd for swap and a better alternative to our native app2sd feature. greenify is another app that is getting great reviews, though i try to not use task killers as much as i can. if you're into mobile gaming chainfire 3d is another app you could use.
tweaks: crossbreeder and v6 supercharger. i've personally used (using CB right now) try them and see. remember to make a backup to be safe.
that's all i can think of in short notice. i'm sure there are others and you just need to look in xda more. also, try a couple of roms before you get settled on one.
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Hello xda. I've been a big selfish user of the stuff provided here for a while, as have many. I own an XPERIA X8 and it's the best phone I've ever owned (ehem.. perhaps because it's the first smartphone I've ever owned). I just wish it was a little better. I enjoyed the stock stuff for a while until my internal storage filled up too much, then I rooted and upgraded it to an easy to install Froyo ROM as it was my first time doing such things (as good as I am with programming PC's, I thought I would surely screw that up). It was great and had kept me happy for over a year, but I didn't realise how old Froyo was until I heard about Jellybean and 'Project Butter' and how it even outperforms old versions of Android. I've been limited in Froyo to relatively basic stuff anyway so I thought since I'd basically installed an android version only one step up from the stock Eclair, there'd be a lot of better versions out there.
This is where my nightmare begun. Since I already had xRecovery, I thought the process would be as simple as "download rom, install in xRecovery". A bit too ambitious, I ended up "soft bricking" my phone and having to fix it by going back to Eclair. Then, somehow, I could not even root the damn thing under the guidance of any tutorial. It's like it suddenly caught an immunity. After ages of meddling I managed to do so and get to the next step. Then the problem occurred that Superuser wasn't kicking in and allowing anything root access. I also had problems getting a new kernel on the phone and ended up only managing to install some random kernels I wasn't even sure supported the rom I was trying to install. I had some more problems trying to install CWM and it was around then I noticed another occurring problem. Apparently for installation of Jellybean, I needed to unlock bootloader, which apparently can't be done on devices with a certain version of motherboard. Mine is 11W41. I heard that this sometimes doesn't matter depending on the specific version, but after all the problems and reading up how hard it would be to recover from a problem if it occurred. So after a long time not finding alternate solutions, I decided to go for something lower.
Ice Cream Sandwich apparently had a similar problem, but I didn't spend long looking (by that time it was really late at night and I just wanted to at least get rid of Eclair again). Eventually I installed Gingerbread, which managed to work well... the second time I tried. The first time I mucked something up and ended up going back to Eclair yet again. Well, now I at least have the GingerXperia Revolution V3 rom installed, but I'm still wondering if this is the best I can do according to the X8. So yeah, that's the rant of my nightmarish story, but this is, ehem, a Q&A... so my question is, before I get too settled with my current phone set-up, is there any better option for my phone? Have I misunderstood some things and I actually do have a way of updating my kernel in order to install a better rom? From a rom, I obviously just want a well-packed version of android (Froyo was way to simplistic, having very few options to improve the experience), which is fast and suitable for every day use. As a bonus I would like it to be swappable so I can increase the RAM with SD memory and increase internal storage size (even with the ability to move apps to the SD, the phone fills up way too fast). I'd be very surprised if I've managed to pick the best way to upgrade my phone.
I know this heavily depends on opinion, so I just want to hear it. If there is better things I can do to it, I could do with a point in the right direction!
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why made you think that you needed to post that bolded part?
just read....read....read...the rom threads and use the search button
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why made you think that you needed to post that bolded part?
just read....read....read...the rom threads and use the search button
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Maybe I was feeling sociable and friendly and wanted to share my story? Why made you think that you needed to quote and bolden it?
And what do the threads and search functions have to do about anything? Im asking for help specific to my phone and what I've done to it, so unless you're gonna help I just dont see the logic in going into all this effort to reply to my topic. I mean really, don't bother, I'm not worth it...
@cascabel
Installed that mounts2sd but on launching it I got a message about root permissions not being granted. It's a common problem I'm noticing. Only some apps achieve root access. I think the problem might be to do with an outdated SU binary, but the topic for the ROM said not to update it after installing. I updated it beforehand but the ROM must have its own binaries or something.
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Maybe I was feeling sociable and friendly and wanted to share my story? Why made you think that you needed to quote and bolden it?
And what do the threads and search functions have to do about anything? Im asking for help specific to my phone and what I've done to it, so unless you're gonna help I just dont see the logic in going into all this effort to reply to my topic. I mean really, don't bother, I'm not worth it...
@cascabel
Installed that mounts2sd but on launching it I got a message about root permissions not being granted. It's a common problem I'm noticing. Only some apps achieve root access. I think the problem might be to do with an outdated SU binary, but the topic for the ROM said not to update it after installing. I updated it beforehand but the ROM must have its own binaries or something.
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you asked for some help...but did you search or read other people's posts before that?
that was my point...:silly:
if you're using superuser, try switching to supersu. the update the binaries. it should work then :thumbup:
btw, i'm not sure but i think swap is only for custom kernels. my bad.
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if you're using superuser, try switching to supersu. the update the binaries. it should work then :thumbup:
btw, i'm not sure but i think swap is only for custom kernels. my bad.
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Yes, swap works only on custom kernel
work hard, play hard
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you asked for some help...but did you search or read other people's posts before that?
that was my point...:silly:
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Yes, asking for help, not info. The help would be specific to my phone, rom, lack of bootloader unlock etc
I did manage to flash a new kernel with flashtool but only certain ones work and im not sure why.
However I installed crossbreed as suggested and it was successful, so thats nice. I'll try some more suggestions later.
TO Mods Please Don't Close This Threat Until You Read It
i have been using cm12 for like ore than a week ad then suddenly one day my battery was low and i didn't charge it because i was doing something very important and then the phone just shut-ed down and it wont boot up again i take it to Samsung immediately but due to that i have rooted it and installed a custom rom they say they cant repair it i searched for some body to repair it and i found someone he had the phone for like 2 weeks and then he turned it back to me and say it can not be repaired so now my phone is officially dead i don't know what exactly happens i make this threat so every one should know and i think this is due to the new partition layout it does damage the hardware as much as it been used so iam warning every one so they should take care
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TO Mods Please Don't Close This Threat Until You Read It
i have been using cm12 for like ore than a week ad then suddenly one day my battery was low and i didn't charge it because i was doing something very important and then the phone just shut-ed down and it wont boot up again i take it to Samsung immediately but due to that i have rooted it and installed a custom rom they say they cant repair it i searched for some body to repair it and i found someone he had the phone for like 2 weeks and then he turned it back to me and say it can not be repaired so now my phone is officially dead i don't know what exactly happens i make this threat so every one should know and i think this is due to the new partition layout it does damage the hardware as much as it been used so iam warning every one so they should take care
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Does it not power on anymore? Do you see a samsung logo? If you could provide more detail that would be nice.
CM12 Nightly OnePlus One
Working absolutely Fine
Running fine here, been using cars1189's builds since cm 10? Always quick to blame the developers.... I mean seriously?
no it do no thing no samsung logo or any thing iam not saying that car roms are bad no maybe its just an accident but you all should take care
any way you better use cm11
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no it do no thing no samsung logo or any thing iam not saying that car roms are bad no maybe its just an accident but you all should take care
any way you better use cm11
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Yea my rom in no way could make that happen. If theres not even any logo either its just plain dead or you flashed something in the wrong partition which for it to be that messed up would probably have been something important like the bootloader. My roms do not touch partitions like that at all doesnt even mount them or anything. Sorry your phone died, at least now you have a good excuse to upgrade from this ancient slow phone? lol. good luck!
Sounds like your battery is fried Thats one of the reasons i left this phone ages ago lol.