So I'm buying the One from Swappa. The original owner had it rooted, then they unrooted it to sell it.
When I get it, I'd like to root it.
Is it going to make things difficult considering the phone has went through the process with HTCdev once before, but with a different user, email address, etc?
FlowingAway said:
So I'm buying the One from Swappa. The original owner had it rooted, then they unrooted it to sell it.
When I get it, I'd like to root it.
Is it going to make things difficult considering the phone has went through the process with HTCdev once before, but with a different user, email address, etc?
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nope, you shouldn't have a problem at all. Htc dev doesn't follow user names or anything like that, They issue the unlock bin when a valid unlock token is sent. They do log that device as being bootloader unlocked but the amount of time doesn't matter.
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Has anyone been able to successfully unlock the Xperia T locked to Bell?
I have tried with 3 separate online unlock Companies. All three have failed to generate an unlock code. They were all very apologetic and refunded my money but the phone still remains locked...
Any suggestions before I take it in somewhere and have it unlocked via cable and software? This will void the warranty though.
Thanks
Reds4ever said:
Has anyone been able to successfully unlock the Xperia T locked to Bell?
I have tried with 3 separate online unlock Companies. All three have failed to generate an unlock code. They were all very apologetic and refunded my money but the phone still remains locked...
Any suggestions before I take it in somewhere and have it unlocked via cable and software? This will void the warranty though.
Thanks
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Hi,
I have a Rogers Xperia T and also tried two companies that failed, and then found one that succeeded, though it took 4 days to get the code.
http://unlock.canadagsm.ca/ was able to provide the correct code for me. They are more expensive, but if you need help their service is excellent compared to the others I've tried. (I am in no way affiliated with them, to be clear).
PM me if you need more information.
BTW, you can't have this model unlocked with SETool at the moment, if that's what you had in mind by "cable and software".
Reds4ever said:
Has anyone been able to successfully unlock the Xperia T locked to Bell?
I have tried with 3 separate online unlock Companies. All three have failed to generate an unlock code. They were all very apologetic and refunded my money but the phone still remains locked...
Any suggestions before I take it in somewhere and have it unlocked via cable and software? This will void the warranty though.
Thanks
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I saw this on youtube the other day, the person apparently used cellunlocker.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEBxJGEe-6k
Maybe give them a shot? According to the video it's about $30?
I used bellunlock.ca. Took three days but worked.
Cheers
Unlock codes
My provider is MTS, their website says to unlock you just have to swap out your sim card and put in one from another provider, enter the code and you are unlocked (for free). Does this permanently unlock the phone? I know that my provider will unlock it for $50.00, I've followed search links and discovered $45 codes are avail - not worried about price - but what about reliability? This will make the process of flashing much more simple for us if it's been proven.
So after little research I found (unfortunately) the definitive answer I was not hoping for. Apparently sim-unlocking your phone is not going to unlock
your bootloader - noobie idea I had - so it does not get me very far down the road of customizations. Too bad, but I have faith in the creativity of the devs out there.
Buying them beer seems like a good idea.
I'm waiting for my Sprint Moto X to arrive next week. I've gleaned that my rooting options appear to boil down to either a) "officially" unlocking the bootloader through Moto (and voiding warranty) or b) using SlapMyMoto to root (which also voids the warranty, but presumably Moto won't know and theoretically leaves me the option of trying to return to stock if I need to).
I'm wondering if folks would comment on why they opted for one choice over the other (and obviously, correct any misconceptions I have. Never needed to use the warranty on a smartphone, but obviously there can always be a first time.)
Thanks.
fwald said:
I'm waiting for my Sprint Moto X to arrive next week. I've gleaned that my rooting options appear to boil down to either a) "officially" unlocking the bootloader through Moto (and voiding warranty) or b) using SlapMyMoto to root (which also voids the warranty, but presumably Moto won't know and theoretically leaves me the option of trying to return to stock if I need to).
I'm wondering if folks would comment on why they opted for one choice over the other (and obviously, correct any misconceptions I have. Never needed to use the warranty on a smartphone, but obviously there can always be a first time.)
Thanks.
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It's old news that Motorola is no longer voiding the warranty for unlocking the bootloader of Developer Edition X's. If you don't have a dev edition then slapmymoto is your only choice.
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
KidJoe said:
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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While I know that, and you know that, it doesn't change the fact of what its stated on Moto's web site when you request the code to unlock your bootloader.. that your warranty is voided. It also doesn't mean that Sprint, or other carriers, wont do "postmortums" on devices they receive at their repair center and try and bill someone if they discover the bootloader was unlocked. At the same respect, since you need to enter info into Moto's web site about your phone to get the unlock code (where you acknowledge your warranty is now voided), wouldn't it be interesting if Moto decideds to start feeding back IMEI, serial numbers, etc of these devices to the carriers?
Call me paranoid.. Crazy, or whatever. Knowing what Moto says the policy is, and being aware of it, is important.
Will the carrier follow through, can they follow through, etc.. has been discussed many times over in the past, so i don't want to start again now.
Magnus_CA said:
It's old news that Motorola is no longer voiding the warranty for unlocking the bootloader of Developer Edition X's. If you don't have a dev edition then slapmymoto is your only choice.
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All due respect, I believe your statements are not applicable or wrong.
1) This is the Sprint Moto X, not the Developer Edition
2) You can unlock the bootloader through the Moto web site, but in doing so void the warranty.
KidJoe said:
Its easier to work with an X that has an unlocked boot loader. Easier to root and have R/W abilities with unlocked bootloader.
You just have to ask... do I feel lucky? And decide "will I need my warranty?"
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Yeah, that's the overall message I've been getting. Was just attempting to get a (obviously unscientific) sense of which option most people were choosing.
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meh... the desk jockey at the sprint store is unlikely to know anything about bootloaders or rooting. And chances are if you get to the point where you need to exercise your warranty (i.e. Bricked or other wise) then they will take a look at the phone and see it doesn't boot and give you a new one. They don't have time to give post mortems to every phone that is returned.. they can simply send them back to get refurbished in bulk.
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I hadn't considered that telling Moto doesn't necessarily mean that Sprint will automatically find out. Hmmm.
KidJoe said:
Call me paranoid.. Crazy, or whatever. Knowing what Moto says the policy is, and being aware of it, is important.
Will the carrier follow through, can they follow through, etc.. has been discussed many times over in the past, so i don't want to start again now.
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I suspect I'll probably unlock the bootloader. I've never, ever needed my smartphone warranty before. So of course, this means some disaster likely awaits.
Unlock bootloader. Much less of a hassle and more of a benefit.
I would also like to root my phone, and don't want to void the warrantee. And for practical purposes, Sprint didn't deal with moto-maker phones, they tell you to take your phone to Motorola.
So I don't want to unlock the boot-loader at this time. Maybe after the warrantee expires.
Puzzlegal said:
I would also like to root my phone, and don't want to void the warrantee. And for practical purposes, Sprint didn't deal with moto-maker phones, they tell you to take your phone to Motorola.
So I don't want to unlock the boot-loader at this time. Maybe after the warrantee expires.
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Well, your warranty is void whether you root or unlock the bootloader. Personally, I'd unlock the bootloader because it gives you more options to recover from user error.
I don't have to tell Motorola that I am rooting the phone. I have to tell them if I unlock the boot-loader. But poking around, it does look like it is dangerous to root this phone without unlocking the boot-loader.
Puzzlegal said:
I don't have to tell Motorola that I am rooting the phone. I have to tell them if I unlock the boot-loader. But poking around, it does look like it is dangerous to root this phone without unlocking the boot-loader.
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Meh, it's not all that difficult. Just follow the instructions word for word and you'll be fine. Just make sure you have all the correct drivers and files before beginning.
It'll be much easier to enable wifi hotspot with an unlocked bootloader though. I already tried it once with my Moto X with a locked bootloader and it's a PITA. Had to go back to stock and run SlapMyMoto again. Framework-res.apk is a fickle *****.
Willing to get things rolling with $20 for someone who can get root without using the HTCDev root for the Sprint variant.
If it's possible to retain HTC Warranty, I think it'd be worth looking into.
Anyone else agree?
Greetings,
There is already a Bounty thread for the M8 (it does say for all GSM variants) but there is mention of Sprint devices in said thread.
If I remember correctly @beaups said he will not be working on an HTC-Dev workaround (meaning any device that is unlockable through HTC-Dev) maybe he'll pop in and clarify.
I'll leave the thread open for now, there may be other devs working on an exploit.
Thanks BD619
I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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beaups said:
I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess
Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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Occasionally HTC will refuse/charge for service if a device has been unlocked prior.
BD619 said:
He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess
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Exactly.
HTC refused to send me a replacement M7 for the purple camera haze because I had an unlocked bootloader.
Blamed the purple haze on overheating due to using non HTC software. complete BS.
Yes, bypassing HTCdev is the goal.
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Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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See my post just above.
So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870
orangekid said:
So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870
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Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.
Captain_Throwback said:
Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.
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I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!
orangekid said:
I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!
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Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.
Captain_Throwback said:
Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.
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But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?
orangekid said:
But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?
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They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.
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They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.
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That's a good point, I have returned devices to Sprint when I was on Sprint and they didn't ask me anything or even check the bootloader, they just replaced it.
I am not sure how much interested for developers this particular request will generate, but we'll see...
Thanks for the clarification Captain..
I was confused because I didn't think it was possible to get perm root on an HTC device without unlocking the bootloader..
Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
I don't know much about the m8 as I'm on the t6 but both t6 and m7 didn't need to use htc-dev.
Either Rumrunner, or weaksauce coupled with rumrunner.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
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These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.
elrayray said:
These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.
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Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."
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I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.
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There isn't and that's what I'm requesting.
Root, which also requires an unlocked bootloader... that I would like to not have unlocked by htcdev.
If there isn't much interest in it, no biggie. I'll just htcdev unlock if nothing comes of this over the next couple weeks.
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JONBOY345 said:
Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."
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If your phone is damaged then you have to deal with Assurion.... If it's software or device malfunction then the store will replace it no question... Most you would need to do is put stock recovery back and relock device...
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I'm looking to buy this phone on Swappa but I'm having trouble identifying which phones are able to have their bootloaders unlocked, become rooted, have custom recoveries installed, have custom ROMs installed, etc...I guess I'm spoiled. Haha. My first Android phone was the Mototola Atrix 4G in 2010 and then the Nexus 4 in 2012. I'm looking to move forward but from reading this forum I am confused as to exactly what I am looking for to make sure my needs are met. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
Motorola has announced that they will now allow to bootloader unlock all XT1096 through their website. This will allow custom recoveries and ROMs to be loaded.
If you can get the IMEI from the phone you plan to purchase you might be able to verify with Motorola if it will be allowed to unlock the bootloader.
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Motorola has announced that they will now allow to bootloader unlock all XT1096 through their website. This will allow custom recoveries and ROMs to be loaded.
If you can get the IMEI from the phone you plan to purchase you might be able to verify with Motorola if it will be allowed to unlock the bootloader.
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You don't request the unlock via IMEI, it's via the results of $fastboot oem get_unlock_data.
Otherwise, you are correct, Motorola is allowing users to unlock their bootloaders with the XT1096. (Source: I did this two or three days ago.)
That is true, but checking with VZW to ensure that it is a valid IMEI may also tell him if the phone is blacklisted on their network, on/off contract, or maybe ineligible for some other reason.
I doubt the seller would provide the data to get the unlock before the phone is sold.
Swappa is good site to get a phone from. If you need to contact the seller but I wouldn't be too worried about the phones bootloader being locked still. My Moto XT-1096 on Verizon is still under contract but via the Motorola boot loader site I got mine unlocked a few weeks ago. Been Playing around with a few of the CM roms and stock. Love how easy it is to work with this phone.
Thank you all very much for your prompt replies. Let me link you the Swappa listing that I am interested in to CONFIRM I am good to go.
https://swappa.com/listing/PKN745/
I specifically asked to see the "About" screen which you can see as the last image he posted. Also, the one before that is all the model / serial numbers on the box. Let me know what you think! If it all checks out with you guys then I think I'm going to go ahead with the sale! Thanks again!
sero94 said:
Swappa is good site to get a phone from. If you need to contact the seller but I wouldn't be too worried about the phones bootloader being locked still. My Moto XT-1096 on Verizon is still under contract but via the Motorola boot loader site I got mine unlocked a few weeks ago. Been Playing around with a few of the CM roms and stock. Love how easy it is to work with this phone.
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I agree. I purchased my phone through Swappa. Great transaction.
You should be fine, looks to be a good one. I had to enter my bootloader unlock code a few times on the moto page but I got it handled. This site has everything ya need and more to get the phone setup how ya want.
The account holder of my phone (work) decided to shut off the phone. I still own the thing as I paid for it outright, but the service is no longer active.
Anyways... My phone is still rooted with the original OE2 or whatever it was, I never moved off of it.
Unfortunately, I cant find anything out there on unlocking the phone to use on another carrier without paying for it. Since the phone is still rooted, is there a FREE way to unlock this thing? Thanks.
Nothing free about that.
Contact the carrier? If you purchased it outright they should have no problem unlocking it for you. That's how I've unlocked two of my phones in the past.