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Hi,
I own my galaxy for like 3 weeks now.
The first 2 weeks I was running stock 2.2.1, and had sudden reboots (it even entered into safe mod once I was sleeping and woke up from the sound the phone was doing), force closes.
So I decided and installed deodexed stock rom with speedmod kernel (+lagfix and recommended tweaks), and I feel that my phone is still bad. Angry birds keeps freezing the phone, wifi errors, and I can't run my phone more than 50hrs of uptime, it either will randomly reboot or as it happens today simply turns it self off and wont let me to turn in on (or getting into recovery/download mode).
When this phone was out everybody said its awesome (fast, stable etc) and I waited for prices to get down, now when I finally got it I think that I made a mistake.
Is anybody else frustrated with their phone? Am I doing something wrong? Maybe I should I hope that samsungs gingerbread will fix this? Or
maybe I should try custom rom like Darky or CM7?
Maybe all smartphones sucks and I dont know it because I never had a smartphone before?
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
is it a new or used one mate ??????
i had it for 1 year now its the best
Its a new one of course.
Are you running any custom rom/kernel?
the beauty of SGS and Android is the continuous evolution of the ROMs you install...
I tried many different ROMs , and I am sure you would finally find something that will make you happy with the machine...
for a start, if you are on 2.2.1, get Darky 9.5 and you wont be disappointed.
Your phone is faulty. I had the device on stock froyo for 4 months after buying it and I never had random reboots or wifi issues.
Definitely take it back. I've modded mine so many times and still looks new to me. Had mine since January of this year.
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@kauh1970 Thanks for the support!
@Furry Atom, very supportive, however I do start to think that something might be wrong with my phone. On other hand, that might be some application that causes the problems.
@alluliwi, Sorry my English is not that good, what do you mean by "take it back"?
Thanks!
skwo said:
@kauh1970 Thanks for the support!
@Furry Atom, very supportive, however I do start to think that something might be wrong with my phone. On other hand, that might be some application that causes the problems.
@alluliwi, Sorry my English is not that good, what do you mean by "take it back"?
Thanks!
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By take it back, he meant to send the phone back for repairs or replacement under warranty to Samsung.
I have no problem with my phone, the only thing i dont like is the free ram available... seem low to me
@timelessfahad Thanks for clearing that up.
@vanvn297 You are running a stock 2.2.1 ROM?
Hi,
I recently updated via kies from stock 2.1 to stock 2.2 HVJP4.
So far I'm not impressed with the stock froyo rom. It's often sluggish and apps, especially email from exchange, crash reguarly.
I have not experienced any problems with wifi or 3g reception however.
I'm still trawling the forum, trying to find all the info and confidence to backup the current rom and try something different, but there's a good chance a stock gingerbread rom will appear before that happens. Hopefully it will address some of these problems. Fingers crossed
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Gingerbread works fine
The issue with wifi is pretty known from what I looked (strange thing it never happened on the stock samsung rom only started to happen on deodexed stock with speedmod kernel).
The other thing my original rom was XXJPY and I flashed a deodexed XXJPY so maybe the rom it self is not that good. Gonna try XXJVH/XXJVB deodexed with Demian kernel probably, or will try Darky ROM (also considering CM7).
More replies about your satisfaction with galaxy s will be happily accepted!
Thanks.
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More replies about your satisfaction with galaxy s will be happily accepted!
Thanks.
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in my opinion cm7 has gotten to the point that there is no reason not to install it... its litterally just a single zip now after you have rooted and put cwm on you're phone. the battery is fine, the photo/video is fine (although the samsung camera is way better... panoramic pics ftw) wifi/data is fine/ no need for lagfix/ and its constantly being updated..
edit: actually I think the battery might be better than what I was getting on darky 9.5...
i have been frustrated about my sgs for the first month until i discovered the rom world
usally the stock rom comes bloated with **** and uneeded stuff wich makes the phone slower and many other useless things...(i think)
i am still kind of new to all this and there is so much info do some reading and see how your sgs can be a beast
I too am not feeling the awesomeness of the Galaxy S. My friend got his one when it came out and its hard to believe this is the same phone I thought of as awesome all that time.
I got it new last week, and experiencing quirky behavior that really makes me feel like I'm using a low-mid class phone, and made me completely unenthusiastic/ not inclined with moving to the new phone which is how it should be. I even used my old Motorlla V8 for days after I got the SGS cos I was so unimpressed.
Poor camera, reception, crashes, dropouts, low wi fi signal, stutters, not responding to taps etc, really clunky loose volume button that makes it feel cheap, cheap sounding speaker. And I haven't installed anything on it except quadrant standard, and that crashes sometimes too.
To elborate a little. As far as comparable qualities go, compared to my Motorolla V8, The reception and voice quality is poor. Same network same simcard, I get half the signal, during a call it will sometimes dropout or make that guitar like noise, whereas my V8 never did any of that.
Even when I am next to a wi fi router. It doesn't show full wi-fi signal. Not even at my friends house. It reaches nowhere near as much as any laptop I have had.
I gotta compare these attributes to my friends sgs.
What I have compared so far is the camera, which is much worse on mine, You can see the thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081453
The AMOLED screen is also a lot dimmer, and cant display white as pure white but a grey/blue tint. Same settings max brightness.
For example quadrant standard, the spinning DNA like helix test. His background is pure snow white, mine is an off blue/grey dim white.
We also compared speakers, same song. His one has stronger clearer sounds, its quite noticable. All in all I'm wondering If I should replace my phone within the 14 day period.
I already took it back one about the camera issue to where I got it and the guy said its fine, so I would really have to go to Vodaphone or samsung directly to get a new one, which I did, and they said go to a repair centre. Even if they even have stock, it could be the same problems. And I would have to prove all these grey area problems.
Anyway check out my other thread as well and apply the Spectrum or Waveform Wallpaper. I wonder if its glitching here, but I think its most likely normal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1086257
I will try upload a vid soon.
I am using my sgs now for 2 month, and i have to say its a great phone.
But its only great if you flash it.
In my opinion stock roms by Samsung are not fast enough,
full with useless apps and many tweaks like voodoo sound and gps fixes are missing.
(Tested 2 SGS from different providers, both roms not usable)
Try Darkys rom as also mentioned on page one.
There are many roms, and not all of them are bugfree and stable.
You have to remember the programmers arent payed for their work.
If you still have wifi problems uing darkys rom, your phone is damaged.
You probably need to start afresh.
Reflash a stock rom (ie. JPU which is a fill rom), then update to stock gingerbread. There shouldn't be many bugs at all.
oswade said:
You probably need to start afresh.
Reflash a stock rom (ie. JPU which is a fill rom), then update to stock gingerbread. There shouldn't be many bugs at all.
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I finally plucked up the courage to do exactly that.
I'm now running JVH with a CF rooted kernel and the phone is now performing close to what I hoped for.
Secondary boot loaders have also been fixed and I'll admit I held my breath during that flash.
Thanks to everyone here for providing the info I needed and making great roms.
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Ive had mine since day 1 and its been amazing. No latency issues, wifi/data works perfectly, stable, no fc's(force closes), and the display is perfect. It seems they've gotten fairly "cheap" with the manufacturing of the newer, more recent models being shipped.
Love this phone... BUT, im still going to trade it in for an SGS2
My phone is frustratingly slow after the update. I've tried some of the ROMS that were built for it but those are bad as well. Is it just me or is everyone's phone this slow? Sometimes it'll take like 5 seconds to open an app or go from the lock screen to an app. Im super bummed because I really like'd how well the phone ran with ICS.
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My phone is frustratingly slow after the update. I've tried some of the ROMS that were built for it but those are bad as well. Is it just me or is everyone's phone this slow? Sometimes it'll take like 5 seconds to open an app or go from the lock screen to an app. Im super bummed because I really like'd how well the phone ran with ICS.
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I had the exact same experience. With ICS it was pretty smooth, after the OTA to JB it sucked, bad. I tried a handful of roms, none that seemed that great. Until I came across the liquidsmooth one here. Thats what Im running now, no complaints at all. Fast, responsive, super customizable. Give it a look if you havent already.
Agree with voodoodaddy I had the same issue and liquid smooth 2.4 is so far the fastest, most stable, full functioning ROM out there. Just remember to install it on ROM slot 3
Is the phone running at 1.2 by default? If so you might want to drop it down to 1.0 and try it for a while
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Is the phone running at 1.2 by default? If so you might want to drop it down to 1.0 and try it for a while
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Are you talking about the clock speed? It's completely stock (w/root) I haven't screwed with any hardware settings at all.
Even LTE is slow. Im on YouTube right now and it's buffering ever 20 second or so.
My bionic is also frustratingly slow. The stock ROM does an incredibly terrible job of managing background tasks and memory usage. I would switch roms but I have all these motorola accessories that typically don't work on anything but a stock rom. It's really awful. Unless some real changes are made this will be my last Motorola device. Samsung has really stepped up their game and I see no reason to go with someone else.
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Are you talking about the clock speed? It's completely stock (w/root) I haven't screwed with any hardware settings at all.
Even LTE is slow. Im on YouTube right now and it's buffering ever 20 second or so.
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The reason I asked was because in certain phones when the ota ICS they bumped up the click speed to 1.2. I found on mine the phone couldn't handle that bump and it suffered similar to what your describing until I took it back down to 1.0
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Y'all can also try doing a FDR (factory data reset). Been known to help with some after an upgrade. You won't lose root.
Before I updated to JB I FXZ'd to stock ICS. So I would imagine that would kick me back down to 1.0 no?
As I typed my response I realized I should just check rather then ask...so I DL'd no frills and sure enough it was at 1.2. So I bumped it back to 1.0. We'll see what happens.
Thanks
Let us know, since ICS I've been running under clocked and using CPU Sleeper. Been getting great battery life and no problems
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I am having the same problems, apps slow to load, serious lag when typing, etc... I just checked and I am running at 1 GHz too. Battery life went from 10 hours on ICS to 7 on JB. I recently rooted but I was having these issues when everything was all stock.
How long have you had your Bionic? This is about the time the batteries starts dying and that can cause problems too
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So after making the change to 1.0 for a few days that appears to have been my problem. Phone is running much better.
Well I'm fed up with this Jelly bean garbage! For you that say certain ones (Liquid smooth seems common) are 'fast', you're only kidding yourself.
JB on the bionic is terrible. It lags and is buggy (on after market's at least). I give props to the developers who have spent time making it usable for the most part.
I'm going back to ICS roms.
I had the same problem for a while. It wasn't until after I flashed Blurry JB after the third time did it work lag free. I had no idea what was going on but I just followed the advice of the developers and deleted the slot 1, wiped everything and reinstalled it.
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
I thought you can't go back to ics once you have jb. No?
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
LucasMN said:
Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
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I certainly agree that some percentage of users experience lag or other problems and I don't doubt that you are one of them. Not sure what that percentage is though. I did an FDR after the JB update and clear cache once in a while. I sync manually and turned off Google Now, but use Voice Search extensively. Various settings, sync options, location services and some apps can cause problems that have little to do with the rom.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I'll try and update it to JB then I suppose. Thanks for the tip.
I get 2-10 second lags when doing a lot of tasks.
I have been reluctant to go from my extremely functional ICS based bionic running Icarus HD Remix to JB. I have not seen any post that convinces me to make the jump.
I have JB on my tablet, my wife has it on her Samsung S3, and my phone as it is kicks butt.
Why should I upgrade from stable to JB??
Thanks anyone with constructive responses.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I deleted all my partitions (slots), uninstalled safestrap, did a Full data reset/cache wipe. Downloaded and installed JB stock (OTA). Then installed safestrap and Liquid Smooth and it is still super laggy.
It'll be fine for a few swipes/screens then all of the sudden you go to open an app or go to the homescreen and it takes forever (5+ seconds). I've also had it reboot once randomly tonight as well as freeze with nothing on the screen but the 4 lights on the bottom lit up.
I dunno what else to do. Maybe it's time to start looking at new phone.
Well good news. One of the guys at work broke his phone last night and wants to upgrade to an S4. Since we have insurance on it, all I have to do is pay $100 and I get brand new S3...should be in tomorrow. :good:
I reformatted my phone twice, and i got heavy lag after a long while. Something was definitely up with JB. GB was fine, ICS got a bit worse, JB is just completely unusable with lag.
A emergency phone call will lag for 60 seconds (absolutely unacceptable), as well as sending messages. Keyboard pops up after 10 seconds, typing a simple sentence takes over a minute, and sending just barely responds. Although chrome is known to be pretty slow compared to browsers, it was also completely unusable for 90 seconds of lag from opening the app to retrieving search results.
I killed off a lot of apps, as well as clear out images/messages, and other cache/data things. But still, it crawled like a slug.
I gave up yesterday, and just installed CM10.1 . Already, I feel relieved that I don't feel restricted by anything. Bionic is in the RC stage for cm10.1. It does all of the necessary things flawlessly so far. I suggest everyone hwo's having slowdown issues with this stock bloatware to move over to CM or some custom rom. Keep FAR FAR away from it.
For now, i feel like I have a completely new phone since GB, and it is keeping up with the responsiveness of my Nexus 7.
But, if you are very inclined on staying on stock: I'm not sure what will help you speed it up again, other than completely wiping it again and reformatting.
Mine was still laggy even on aftermarket roms (JB).
I have it listed on craigslist now since I'm rocking an S3 since last Friday.
No lag on this bad boy.:victory:
I've been using FlyingJelly and it's great! My wife is stock JB and she has no complaints either.
Lag caused by the Overclocking?
In another thread, someone suggested that the lag many bionic users experienced could be fixed by clocking the CPU back down from 1.2 to 1 GHz. I tried this using the CPU Control under ROM Toolbox and I have found this worked for my phone, although I haven't found a way to make it permanent (it seems to change back to the 1.2 GHz setting, most of the time when trying to download something over a bad wifi or 4G connection). But it has helped with the frustration to know that when it lags, I will find the setting just needs to be changed back.
I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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There isn't unless you want there to be one; as has been beaten to death on this forum, any updates are completely 100% personal preferences. If you're happy with what you have, then more power to ya!
thanks. I've always been on the edge with this phone, loading leaked upgrades, roms, etc. but now that it works nicely, I'm sticking with ICS & Icarus remixed. overclocked...
I wish I could go back to ICS. JB hasn't been able to keep my underclock at 600 and keeps resetting it back to 300.
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I've just updated to 4.4.3 today which seemed buggy (not responding etc) I then updated to 4.4.4. The lag has made it unusable. If I click settings for example I get a lag of quite a few seconds. I never had this before I updated.
I've done a search it seems like I'm the only one. Has anyone else had this problem? Did updating it to 5.0 cure it? (I haven't got the OTA update for 5.0)
PS My device is unrooted & staying that way. I'm not interested in hearing a lecture about it & I won't enter into a debate about it.
Have you Factory Reset yet? You are the only one.
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Have you Factory Reset yet? You are the only one.
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No chance, that's the absolute last resort not the first.
There are heaps of threads on here about 5 having lag and many people rolling back to 4.4.4 so they could have a lag free experience. I'm running 5.0.2 and everything feels fine. If you are going to wipe it you might as well download the latest 5.0.2 image from google.
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There are heaps of threads on here about 5 having lag and many people rolling back to 4.4.4 so they could have a lag free experience. I'm running 5.0.2 and everything feels fine. If you are going to wipe it you might as well download the latest 5.0.2 image from google.
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As I said in the OP I'm not rooted
You don't need to root, just flash it. But your lag will only get worse. If you really want to get rid of the lag, factory reset. You can try just wiping the dalvic cache first, but if that doesn't work, backing up your stuff and wiping it is the real man's way to go. Just do it, you'll be better off in the long run.
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I've just updated to 4.4.3 today which seemed buggy (not responding etc) I then updated to 4.4.4. The lag has made it unusable. If I click settings for example I get a lag of quite a few seconds. I never had this before I updated.
I've done a search it seems like I'm the only one. Has anyone else had this problem? Did updating it to 5.0 cure it? (I haven't got the OTA update for 5.0)
PS My device is unrooted & staying that way. I'm not interested in hearing a lecture about it & I won't enter into a debate about it.
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In my case, lag was resolved after they changed motherboard in my unit due to malfunction (I had warranty).
5.0 will not fix your issues but I don't think you should have to wipe your device either. You may have to to restore order to your N7. Google is also supposed to be updating us again sometime here too.
i was 3 updates behind, its my daughters tablet (3 year old) and she uses plex mostly. It was flawless until i updated it to 4.4.4. Now plex lags so bad she is using my tablet. I was hoping 5.x would fix this..
I've never done a factory reset after the first reset when I unlocked the bootloader (on 4.1.2), although I have restored nandroid once early on, so yeah I agree with OP fdr should be and can be a last resort thing.
As for the lag, I think after every update there's a lag grace period where things are sort of settling in, can take a few days of use and restarts to get back to normal. I seem to recall 4.4.4 started out a little stuttery and got smoother, eventually becoming very smooth. The exception to this was 5.0 which got slightly better but not much, although luckily I didn't experience the worst of it as others have reported.
5.0.2 is great. At first it seemed only slightly better than 5.0, but now it's very smooth.
Things that might help:
Clear Device Cache in recovery
Disable any (background intensive) system apps you don't need
Got my Droid Turbo recently and decided to upgrade to 5.1 to try it out a few days ago. I hate it-- performance/compatbility w/ apps is completely ruined and my battery drains faster. I also despise the UI of Lollipop.
Can't seem to figure out a way to get back to 4.4.4. Bootloader is locked, so I can't flash the factory 4.4.4 stock image.
Can't be done for now buddy. It is highly unlikely it ever will be.
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Can't be done for now buddy. It is highly unlikely it ever will be.
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You're right! Even if your bootloader was unlocked you would get a bootloop (Tried this before)
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You're right! Even if your bootloader was unlocked...
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If the boot loader is unlocked, you can do what you want! If you know how to do.
P0PETIN said:
You're right! Even if your bootloader was unlocked you would get a bootloop (Tried this before)
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I fooled around for a little bit and found out there's a Material Dark theme for the keyboard (along w/ holo white and holo blue), so my major UI complaint is gone (white keyboard). Only other complaint regarding UI is the fact that I have to swipe and then touch the top of the screen to get to my settings.
I read up for a little bit, people are saying that factory resetting/wiping after installing the OTA update fixes performance/battery issues. Gonna try it out, thank you for the response.
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I read up for a little bit, people are saying that factory resetting/wiping after installing the OTA update fixes performance/battery issues. Gonna try it out, thank you for the response.
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This worked for me. My battery was a lot worse after updating. Especially while not using the phone. I did a factory reset and battery life is probably a little better than when it was on kk.
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I fooled around for a little bit and found out there's a Material Dark theme for the keyboard (along w/ holo white and holo blue), so my major UI complaint is gone (white keyboard). Only other complaint regarding UI is the fact that I have to swipe and then touch the top of the screen to get to my settings.
I read up for a little bit, people are saying that factory resetting/wiping after installing the OTA update fixes performance/battery issues. Gonna try it out, thank you for the response.
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Double finger swipe down gets the quick settings open.
Dude it's android the beautiful thing about that is its fully customizable wtf?
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Got my Droid Turbo recently and decided to upgrade to 5.1 to try it out a few days ago. I hate it-- performance/compatbility w/ apps is completely ruined and my battery drains faster. I also despise the UI of Lollipop.
Can't seem to figure out a way to get back to 4.4.4. Bootloader is locked, so I can't flash the factory 4.4.4 stock image.
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I should preface all my posts with: "this is just my thought process and not anything official / backed by research."
That said... 5.1 is very very new to the Turbo. So new, in fact that I highly doubt, boxed, in inventory, phones have been upgraded.
So lets say you have a warranty or insurance of some kind.. and your Turbo happens to... fall in a toilet.. run over by a garbage truck....eaten by a lion...
The replacement Turbo you would get, would, statistically, be running 4.4.4 and not 5.1
Yup.
It's funny how some people are dying to get 5.1 while others want to go back to 4.4.4
Regarding battery and performance, a lot of people have reported better battery life and performance after wiping cache, if not satisfied full wipe.
Regarding the rest, I agree with you, it takes a while to get used to, and without the ability to root and use nice customisation apps to tune it to the way you like it, this can be stressful. Despite that, soon enough you can get root on 5.1 and you should be able to tweak it using Xposed and the such.
I know exactly how you feel as I am currently on a 4.4.4 stock unrooted. Which sucks compared to my lovely rooted fully customised experience. I had to though to use my company corporate apps (MobileIron) which detects root and complains about almost everything unless stock. Stupid app. So for me I would swap my 4.4.4 unlocked with your 5.1 stock any time of the day because I can't modify it anyway.
Good luck mate. Try to calculate your risk, this is a pretty expensive device and I won't risk hard bricking it.
The 5.1 update I side-loaded doubled my battery life and makes it fly. Hasn't lagged one time. Using Nova Pro and DU Battery Saver. I'm a power user and it lasts all day and late into the morning.
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Despite that, soon enough you can get root on 5.1 and you should be able to tweak it using Xposed and the such.
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Not trying to be all negative, but this isn't exactly correct. There is no guarantee 5.1 users will ever see root. With the Turbo soon(ish) to hit it's first birthday, (for what I've seen) developers tend to go for the latest/greatest/newest challenge (IE: the latest phone to tweak with). Everyday there is less and less appeal to root the Turbo as everyday there are less and less Turbo users. (upgrades and whatnot)
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Not trying to be all negative, but this isn't exactly correct. There is no guarantee 5.1 users will ever see root. With the Turbo soon(ish) to hit it's first birthday, (for what I've seen) developers tend to go for the latest/greatest/newest challenge (IE: the latest phone to tweak with). Everyday there is less and less appeal to root the Turbo as everyday there are less and less Turbo users. (upgrades and whatnot)
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We knew this would happen when we choose the Turbo over the Moto X, the turbo has terrible support because it is not a mainstreamer. We have to live with the risks and work with the challenges. I am not considering root, but I am confident that's it is going to happen, the same problem was facing unlocking the droid turbo and rooting it, and even though it was very late but it did happen. It's only a matter of time.
I have learned my lesson from this and I am sticking with the more supported devices despite all the extras. Moto X 2015 is my next device if it ends up being half as decent as the rumours.
I never experienced battery drains before (Only when I overclocked) but either way I just use Greenify to manage battery life and trust me it works and if the bootloader is unlocked it may depend on the device your trying to downgrade. In my experience I tried to downgrade a S5 T-Mobile using Odin using official ROM from samsung and got the phone into a bootloop until I downloaded lollipop (Latest version) and it stopped but I hope you get a work around this.
Cheers!!
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Not trying to be all negative, but this isn't exactly correct. There is no guarantee 5.1 users will ever see root. With the Turbo soon(ish) to hit it's first birthday, (for what I've seen) developers tend to go for the latest/greatest/newest challenge (IE: the latest phone to tweak with). Everyday there is less and less appeal to root the Turbo as everyday there are less and less Turbo users. (upgrades and whatnot)
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I am running my Moto E 2015 with 5.1.1 rooted and xposed framework
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I am running my Moto E 2015 with 5.1.1 rooted and xposed framework
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Right, sorry, I should've been more specific... "there's no guarantee Verizon Droid Turbo 5.1 users"
Kiwironic said:
It's funny how some people are dying to get 5.1 while others want to go back to 4.4.4
Regarding battery and performance, a lot of people have reported better battery life and performance after wiping cache, if not satisfied full wipe.
Regarding the rest, I agree with you, it takes a while to get used to, and without the ability to root and use nice customisation apps to tune it to the way you like it, this can be stressful. Despite that, soon enough you can get root on 5.1 and you should be able to tweak it using Xposed and the such.
I know exactly how you feel as I am currently on a 4.4.4 stock unrooted. Which sucks compared to my lovely rooted fully customised experience. I had to though to use my company corporate apps (MobileIron) which detects root and complains about almost everything unless stock. Stupid app. So for me I would swap my 4.4.4 unlocked with your 5.1 stock any time of the day because I can't modify it anyway.
Good luck mate. Try to calculate your risk, this is a pretty expensive device and I won't risk hard bricking it.
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I'm just going to wait until there's an established way to get back to 4.4.4. If there isn't, then too bad for me then
Also, I cleared cleared my cache data and now everything's running amazing and using less battery. What an odd fix.
aedando said:
I'm just going to wait until there's an established way to get back to 4.4.4. If there isn't, then too bad for me then
Also, I cleared cleared my cache data and now everything's running amazing and using less battery. What an odd fix.
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Only way to do that is a bootloader unlock. You may be waiting forever.
yes you can downgrade, only if you took the ota i might write a tutorial about it
Using mofo, I can freely upgrade and downgrade between 5.1 and 4.4.4. Those who took the OTA, well, we told you so.