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[Q] It may be waterproof, but what about when you listen to music?

Hello world!
I like the fact that this device will be "waterproof", but a question that's popped up in my head recently is whether or not that applies when using wired headphones too. For example, say you're standing in the middle of the monsoon rains listening to music. Will the headphone "socket" be isolated well enough that the use of headphones is rendered safe & sound, or will we have to use Bluetooth for that purpose?
Hope I get my point across, as I don't really know how to ask this in a decent fashion. :victory:

ninetwozero said:
Hello world!
I like the fact that this device will be "waterproof", but a question that's popped up in my head recently is whether or not that applies when using wired headphones too. For example, say you're standing in the middle of the monsoon rains listening to music. Will the headphone "socket" be isolated well enough that the use of headphones is rendered safe & sound, or will we have to use Bluetooth for that purpose?
Hope I get my point across, as I don't really know how to ask this in a decent fashion. :victory:
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Good question! But I don't know the answer maybe mail Sony
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Unless the bundled headphones are water proof, I wouldn't do that. I think the headphone jack should go so easily, the headphone itself will be ruined.
Once I was washing hands while I was listening to music, and I touched the cable and it went right on the running water. The right ear stopped working. Luckily I was at home and used the hair dryer on the headphone. It isn't still that good (left ear is louder and play more frequencies), but it have to last until I get new headphones.
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No, opening the port flap to the headphone jack invalidates the water resistance. As it's been said before, your headphones probably wouldn't survive much water either.
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Xperia Z may be a advertised water resistant phone but when any of it's port covers are open it's the most prone to stationary water.

If you plug in your headphones indoors than it'll be ok , just don't do this under the rain
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it is risky
i think it will not be "waterproof" any more,
it will be at most "water resistant"

sony xperia z handset's various ports, including the one for its headphones, all feature protective plastic covers that must be unclipped before they can be accessed. - so dont even try ur phone with headset in rain, rather attending a calls and reading messages with ports closed.
source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-CES-2013-The-phone-use-bath-drop-toilet.html

So, the general guess is that it:
loses its waterproofness if I plug in the headphones mid-rain?
...and...
is water-resistant as long as I plug in the headphones when it's not raining?*
* Read: meaning that it won't take damage from getting a drop or two onto the output jack when something is connected

Mail sony and who knows you might even get an interesting reply from them - and can share it to earn brief fame among tech blogs

But u still can buy Sony's waterproof headphones, which cost £60 and go on sale next month
And take a shower safely while listening some music

ljubisa_sk said:
But u still can buy Sony's waterproof headphones, which cost £60 and go on sale next month
And take a shower safely while listening some music
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Do you have a link to it on their website? Couldn't find it for some reason!
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i think you guys are confused about waterproof and water resistance.
heres an article http://boyslife.org/outdoors/askgearguy/9135/waterproof-or-water-resistant/
mainly the xperia z is not a gadget where you could operate under water. thats why there are videos out there of xperia z when you pour water on it the screen starts to act up as if someone is pressing the buttons.
taking a phone to operate under water is a whole new level. there is a reason why sony states 1meter under water for maximum 30 mins. IP57 certified - dust and water resistant. technically speaking, its something for like when you accidentally dropped your phone into a bucket of water and quickly pick it up or talk under the rain should be fine since the screen is off when youre in a phone call.
A lot of ‘waterproof’ electronics are IPX7, which means that they will be OK if you accidentally drop them in a stream and get them out immediately.
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from the site
if the 35mm jack hole is water proof then theres no point for sony to design a cover on top of it.

haha would it work if sound was coming out of the speakers instead? haha...
underwater that is...

LitoNi said:
mainly the xperia z is not a gadget where you could operate under water. thats why there are videos out there of xperia z when you pour water on it the screen starts to act up as if someone is pressing the buttons.
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Any specific reason for it doing so? I've read that it has something to do with it being capacitive, but not completely sure what that actually means in this context.

ninetwozero said:
Any specific reason for it doing so? I've read that it has something to do with it being capacitive, but not completely sure what that actually means in this context.
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This is generally the case with all capacitive touchscreens.
Capacitive touch screens work by using a thin grid of conductive materials on the screen to sense touches from conductive materials, like your finger. Water, obviously being highly conductive, messes it up quite badly.
This is why you generally can't use any capacitive touchscreen when it's wet; even a drop will usually make the screen freak out and sense touches that aren't being made.
I heard that the XZ has some tech that helps it sense fingers over drops of water (ie, just taken out of water), but it's probably not smart enough to handle being completely submerged. That would be my guess.

theindievisual said:
This is generally the case with all capacitive touchscreens.
Capacitive touch screens work by using a thin grid of conductive materials on the screen to sense touches from conductive materials, like your finger. Water, obviously being highly conductive, messes it up quite badly.
This is why you generally can't use any capacitive touchscreen when it's wet; even a drop will usually make the screen freak out and sense touches that aren't being made.
I heard that the XZ has some tech that helps it sense fingers over drops of water (ie, just taken out of water), but it's probably not smart enough to handle being completely submerged. That would be my guess.
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Completely right.

Over all taking pictures under water will be great option with this phone,
But I'm interested what if water finds a way into the device will the guaranty be void then?

ljubisa_sk said:
Over all taking pictures under water will be great option with this phone,
But I'm interested what if water finds a way into the device will the guaranty be void then?
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Probably, yes, as you'd have to prove the you had put on all the lids and things like that.

why there's no one think this way!!
get a bluetooth waterproof headset and you can listening your music under the rain (even without using umbrella)..

[Q] Water sensor protection ?

Hi !
I'm kinda spooked about not getting my water sensor triggered when listening to music and it's raining . Does anyone know if the water sensor is also sensible to other things , like glue or something ? I was thinking to cover up that part with some scotch tape . Any other methods ?

fookea said:
Hi !
I'm kinda spooked about not getting my water sensor triggered when listening to music and it's raining . Does anyone know if the water sensor is also sensible to other things , like glue or something ? I was thinking to cover up that part with some scotch tape . Any other methods ?
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Wait wut???
What sensor are you talking about? There is no such thing on the phone^^

Dsteppa said:
Wait wut???
What sensor are you talking about? There is no such thing on the phone^^
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Under the flaps there is a little white strip that is supposed to be a water sensor thingy mobob

ojstagg93 said:
Under the flaps there is a little white strip that is supposed to be a water sensor thingy mobob
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Might pay to change your question,
The water resistance flaps that trigger the water resistance warning. Only once you uplug a device that was connected.
It is not a sensor as much as a hardware triggered event that the hardware was removed therefore a reminder that the flaps will still be open.
To prove this theory you can open and close the flaps all day and will not get any warning, the moment you remove the sdcard, headphones, charger the event will be triggered.
I don't understand what you are trying to ask, exactly.

as ojstagg pointed , under the flaps there are small white pieces of reactive paper . if they are touched by humidity or water , they get red => no more warranty . it's kinda stupid that they placed it NEAR the headphone jack and not inside...

Basically the sensors are there only to void warranty if the phone has water damage due to flaps being open at the time.
I have been using the xperia z with the headphone flap open in the rain, and the white strip is still white. I think colour would only change when submerged in water after a certain amount of time.
it's not a Tampax.
I think the sensor actually needs to soak in water for a certain period before it changes colour, however Iam not about to prove this theory.
Hoped I helped you to be at ease when listening to music in the rain................... I haven't have I?
Best thing for xperia z owners to do, is buy the Sony charging dock and that new Sony headphone Bluetooth thing. That way we would hardly ever need to open these flaps again.
If only they were f*****g available,
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I don't think so . at least my old iphone 3gs got a drop of water on the sensor and bang , got red. Though you might be right ... and I could be another type of sensor :-s

Dock and Bluetooth headset is the only way.
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yea whell I was hoping to avoid that )

fookea said:
as ojstagg pointed , under the flaps there are small white pieces of reactive paper . if they are touched by humidity or water , they get red => no more warranty . it's kinda stupid that they placed it NEAR the headphone jack and not inside...
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Maybe you could ask the dude, that got drunk and was showing off his phone to his mates that forgot to put the flaps closed before dunking the phone

I also thought that.
My post Headphone water damage sensor
I know you've seen it but just an update that I'm currently using a small bit of tape to cover it that can be easily removed. I use my headphones a lot and all I needed was one drop of rain to land on it an there goes the warranty.

ok so the tape didn't interact with the white paper , right ? cool i'll cover it too then

[Q] moisture detecting paper changing colour

Hi guys. For xperia Z there is this piece of paper that is on the charging port, earphone jack and sd card slot.
However, all 3 pieces of mine is kinda like really pale pinkish. I swear it was never near water at all. Anyone experienced this or maybe any1 can clarify it may be due to a really humid environment?
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Humid environment would likely affect it.
It bugs the hell out of me though that they play them right inside ports that you're expected to use every day, especially when you live in rainy Britain, I can't use wired headphones cause if I took it out of my pocket just once I'd likely obliterate the the litmus in the headphone jack area to a nice hot-pink colour.

alias_neo said:
Humid environment would likely affect it.
It bugs the hell out of me though that they play them right inside ports that you're expected to use every day, especially when you live in rainy Britain, I can't use wired headphones cause if I took it out of my pocket just once I'd likely obliterate the the litmus in the headphone jack area to a nice hot-pink colour.
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So this happens when it is close to water or something?

radarwolf said:
So this happens when it is close to water or something?
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Well, the papers are affected by water, they're called litmus paper, usually it happens through direct contact that they turn pink/red but if you are in a particularly humid location such as the shower, a sauna, or some country that's wet and warm (equadorian rain forest?) the water in the air can turn it pink, if you leave the cover open.
Rain can do the same if some drops hit it while cover is open.
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Galaxy S4 Active - is it really waterproof?

USA Today have an article (here) where the reviewer was testing the S4 Active. Right after he dunk the phone underwater, the phone have WATER DAMAGE:
Shortly after I took the phone for a dip (in not very deep water), the display went kaput — at least for several hours. It lit up just long enough to indicate that I had power, but I couldn't actually keep the display on and use it.
Roughly a day later, the screen came alive again, but the phone was still exhibiting finicky behavior, presumably because of water damage. The touch-screen was messed up and the device acted as if headphones were plugged in when they weren't. If this were my actual phone, I'd return to the store for a replacement.
I just got the S4 Active and thought I am not planning to take the phone for a long underwater activities, I am concerned that I am getting a phone that have a very weak water resistant feature.
Not sure if this is because the reviewer didn't "properly" close the battery cover / USB port, but I have seen S4 Active review and Samsung Event videos where the phone was submerged in water for a long time and it still works.
PS: Have ANYONE tried to dunk their phone in the water for testing?

My phone has been in a pool, lake, bathtub, rainy weather, all since I got it. I trust it.
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I'd like to think that reviewer just got stuck with a bad unit.
But this begs the question: Is water damage covered under warranty? Either by AT&T or Samsung? Surely they should back up their "vacation-proof" phone..

aceownstheworld said:
My phone has been in a pool, lake, bathtub, rainy weather, all since I got it. I trust it.
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My first one went into the pool just fine. The unit I have now I am scared to expose it. On the top between the glass and bezel there is a small gap... above the in call speaker.... I'm afraid that water will pour in through that... Can you look at yours and see if yours is like that?

He probably didn't press down the back cover correctly.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
My first one went into the pool just fine. The unit I have now I am scared to expose it. On the top between the glass and bezel there is a small gap... above the in call speaker.... I'm afraid that water will pour in through that... Can you look at yours and see if yours is like that?
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You mean between the earpiece and the bezel at the front? I don't see any gaps, at least not with my naked eyes.
On the back, bottom part near the speaker, I don't see it either. Trying to press to see if there is a gap, so far none.
What makes you "scared" on the phone that you have now?

robstunner said:
He probably didn't press down the back cover correctly.
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There is a sticker on the back cover that provide a warning for the user to PRESS DOWN on the middle of the cover, underneath the LED.
I always do that, but I never hear a "click" or any indication that the back cover is now PROPERLY covering the phone to prevent water leakage.
Well, I DO hear the click when pressing on all sides, but that's normal like my Galaxy Note.

lanwarrior said:
You mean between the earpiece and the bezel at the front? I don't see any gaps, at least not with my naked eyes.
On the back, bottom part near the speaker, I don't see it either. Trying to press to see if there is a gap, so far none.
What makes you "scared" on the phone that you have now?
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Yeah on the front top. I just think water will easily get in the phone...
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I've used this phone below the 1 meter mark and the only bad side effect I get is the microphone not working well for a bit afterwords, which happens really at any level of exposure. This phone is pretty safe in water if you use it correctly.

mattpayne92 said:
...the only bad side effect I get is the microphone not working well for a bit afterwords...
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That is pretty bad. I mean, I am not going snorkeling and take a phone call while floating on the shore, but if somebody calls me and I CANNOT talk to them because the microphone does not work, that is a big problem.
I am actually wondering how does the phone protects the microphone, earphone and speaker? There are holes there and water can go in. I was considering the Xperia Z and so far the only problem with water issue is the microphone jack - the phone will think that the jack have a headphone but it's only water. However, that is easily fixable by drying it out. I.e. use tissue or something that goes inside the jack.
Microphone though, the holes are to tiny to "dry" with a tissue or something.
BTW, is the microphone STOPS working completely or it works again after a FEW DAYS?

Maybe I can ask those who read this thread to tell me if:
A). You HAVE tested your phone under water (splashing it, dunking it in a bowl of water)
B). What ISSUE you have after you did the above? Phone dead, microphone stops working, etc.
I am trying to get a sense if this is just a specific batch issue (I can replace the phone) or design issue (no matter what, the issue still exists).

If it really was then it would have lifetime warranty. The fact that it only has 1 year warranty like most of the phones tells me that after year 1 be ready to say bye bye to your baby
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lanwarrior said:
Maybe I can ask those who read this thread to tell me if:
A). You HAVE tested your phone under water (splashing it, dunking it in a bowl of water)
B). What ISSUE you have after you did the above? Phone dead, microphone stops working, etc.
I am trying to get a sense if this is just a specific batch issue (I can replace the phone) or design issue (no matter what, the issue still exists).
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Decided to take mine in the shower to test after it got here.
I let the showerhead spray onto the phone, both front and back. Nothing wrong.
Like other people reported, the speaker volume gets significantly lower when wet and goes back to normal within a half hour. Also if the headphone port gets water in it it will errenously display that "headphones are connected" which blowing into the port will fix.

thatbigmoose said:
Decided to take mine in the shower to test after it got here.
I let the showerhead spray onto the phone, both front and back. Nothing wrong.
Like other people reported, the speaker volume gets significantly lower when wet and goes back to normal within a half hour. Also if the headphone port gets water in it it will errenously display that "headphones are connected" which blowing into the port will fix.
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This is useful! BTW, you haven't test submerging the phone, have you?

maldinimi said:
If it really was then it would have lifetime warranty. The fact that it only has 1 year warranty like most of the phones tells me that after year 1 be ready to say bye bye to your baby
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No it won't, because all things mechanical / electronics break downs eventually - nothing last forever. Even mil-spec stuff does not have a "lifetime" warranty.

lanwarrior said:
This is useful! BTW, you haven't test submerging the phone, have you?
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I haven't submersed it yet but there's videos on YouTube with submersion and it brings about the same issues I discussed.
Higher water pressure will clog the mic membrane and make you sound distant in phone calls.
Maybe I'll build up the courage to dunk it tomorrow.

I did the dunk test the night after I got it by fully submerging it in a cup of water...worked just fine afterwards...although I was showing a friend that didn't believe that I had a "water proof/resistant" phone by putting it in the sink and letting water run over it and had an issue with the phone thinking the headphones were plugged in.only did it for about an hour...weird thing was that it didn't start doing it until about 2 hours after it had been wet. Although once it fully dried I haven't had any issues at all with it. Hope this helps.
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lanwarrior said:
That is pretty bad. I mean, I am not going snorkeling and take a phone call while floating on the shore, but if somebody calls me and I CANNOT talk to them because the microphone does not work, that is a big problem.
I am actually wondering how does the phone protects the microphone, earphone and speaker? There are holes there and water can go in. I was considering the Xperia Z and so far the only problem with water issue is the microphone jack - the phone will think that the jack have a headphone but it's only water. However, that is easily fixable by drying it out. I.e. use tissue or something that goes inside the jack.
Microphone though, the holes are to tiny to "dry" with a tissue or something.
BTW, is the microphone STOPS working completely or it works again after a FEW DAYS?
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Maybe leave the phone in the sun for a few minutes to dry? Blow on it? Several things help get the water out. But honestly, how often are you going to go swimming with a phone and then take a call immediately afterwards? I'd be thrilled that my phone didn't fry after it fell in the pool, I could care less that the microphone doesn't work for an hour - that's what bluetooth headsets are for.
Anyways, I've had my phone submerged in a sink with running water twice now, the only issues I've found is that after removing the back cover there is water on the outside of the rubber gasket, which looks normal, but I would recommend taking the back off to dry it out after exposed to water.

When i took mine into the pool I made a phone call right after and they said I sounded funny so i blew in the mic and it cleared the water out and they could hear me fine....

geoff5093 said:
But honestly, how often are you going to go swimming with a phone and then take a call immediately afterwards?
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Not very often, but when I DO need to take that call, it will be a big problem. This is a phone after all.
I don't think I will purposely take the phone for a swim, but the reason I bought the Active instead of the S4 is because of the water/sand protection and want to confirm it works. If it doesn't, then I'll exchange the phone to a normal S4 because it's thinner.
However, based on your response and others, it seems it does offer those protection to a certain degree and the ONLY issue is that the mic may get covered with water and cause the caller not being able to hear me, but this is easily fixed QUICKLY.

My speaker grille just fell off!

The longer I'm having this phone, the more disillusioned I am becoming with it.
I sold my iPhone 5 in September and 'upgraded' to the Z1...
Yet despite needing initial time to get over the pathetic viewing angles, I developed a real fondness for the phone...
But that honeymoon period soon ended... Two weeks later the phone had proven that it was the biggest scratch magnet I ever owned. The perfectly hard wearing Dragontrail glass is covered by a super scratch prone ASF, the aluminium frame has lots of ugly scuff marks on it despite taking great care of the phone and only keeping it in a soft pocket - alone - and today the grille bubbled up and came off the speaker at the bottom.
By the way it is nothing but a piece of cut out mesh, fabric essentially, that has been glued down with what seems to have become really tacky glue. Clearly not water resistant as it's advertised.
I've put it back but it wouldn't stick. I really need to send it in for a warranty repair but I'm leaving Europe for 5 months on Monday so I can't!
So the Z1 is a poorly constructed phone made to appear as if it is of a premium build quality and Sony did not build it to look good in a month, or two or 12 down the line let alone two years.
Who in their right mind ok'd the ASF what a hideous idea?!
Anyway I digress, has anybody else's speaker grille come off or bubbled up?
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Here it is... It's just a piece of plastic mesh and mine has now fallen off. Anybody with the same?
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Use superglue. The grill has nothing to do with the waterproofness.

It will still be under warranty when you get back. Send it then?
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I can't superglue it back as it now has a kink in it... And just looks bad.
A warranty repair it is then when I come back. Thanks for the advice anyhow.
As long as my waterproofing is not affected I'm gonna live with it.
But yes I am fundamentally disappointed with some of the materials used to make this phone... and at the top of my list is the ASF with the logo baked in...
This is just yet another thing...
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Didn't somebody's silver ring around the power button also just fall off? These things shouldn't happen...
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My speaker grill just started pealing off. Noticed when it got caught on something.
Does this actually affect whether it's waterproof or not? I'm imagining not, as it's just a thin piece of plastic, either way I'll be more careful with the phone now.
Mine isn't under warranty because I've had it so long, and it's rooted too...

corydor13 said:
My speaker grill just started pealing off. Noticed when it got caught on something.
Does this actually affect whether it's waterproof or not? I'm imagining not, as it's just a thin piece of plastic, either way I'll be more careful with the phone now.
Mine isn't under warranty because I've had it so long, and it's rooted too...
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I've noticed today, that my speaker grill is a bit "wobbly" which means that if I put my finger on it I can move it a bit to the left and right and also up and down. I'm not sure if it was there from the beginning (I have the phone since September) but I doubt it. Is this "normal" or already considered a case for warranty?
I'm afraid now the grill might come off soon! I have a case on the phone and always have it alone in one pocket and handle it with care so that shouldn't be the cause.
What did you do? Sent it in under warranty?!

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I've noticed today, that my speaker grill is a bit "wobbly" which means that if I put my finger on it I can move it a bit to the left and right and also up and down. I'm not sure if it was there from the beginning (I have the phone since September) but I doubt it. Is this "normal" or already considered a case for warranty?
I'm afraid now the grill might come off soon! I have a case on the phone and always have it alone in one pocket and handle it with care so that shouldn't be the cause.
What did you do? Sent it in under warranty?!
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That's basically how the problem started for me.
After a while of trying to keep it on, I got annoyed with the fact that it kept falling off, so just left it off.
Haven't sent it back for repairs or anything as I don't see the point.
It's been soaked since and doesn't have any problems..(yet).

So it is still waterproof? But even if so, it's very disappointing that this happens after only 9 months and without the grill it looks ugly, like it was used for ten years.
I also have that strange, squeaky vibration motor sound. I can live with the former, but both defects combined are almost too much.
I'm going to talk with the Sony chat tomorrow and see what they'll say.

drsoran2 said:
I'm afraid now the grill might come off soon! I have a case on the phone and always have it alone in one pocket and handle it with care so that shouldn't be the cause.
What did you do? Sent it in under warranty?!
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It's not a problem, they used a cheap glue to stick that grill under the phone and in time, hot temperatures and maybe water, the glue just lost his consistency. Try to keep it on or just apply some drop of good glue and do not close the speaker (LOL)
BTW, I can move mine too but until stay there I do not touch it.

I'm going to post this thing that happen to me yesterday I think I was the only one and I found this, yesterday I saw how my grille can move and I was like , I take great care of the phone, doesn't have scratches of any type, and now this.... I will try to remove it very very careful and apply some kind of glue I have, and see what happen

A little too late to this thread, but just posting my own experience. The little speaker mesh literally fell off of my Xperia Ray. After it comes off, you can not hear anything on the speaker phone when talking to someone and Music, although loud comes with very high frequencies. To fix this, you take black electrical tape, cut just a small part and stick it over the plastic, then use a clear plastic tape to cover that along the bottom. The sound is not like the original but still works better than no mesh. The in-Call volume of these phones is a major disappointment. You are right, the build quality of most android phones is junk. What the Android world needs badly is the iPhone build quality.

Well I'm back with some things to say, some friends I know seem that doesnt have this problem at all, weird, after some time I finally removed the grille it was just holded with strong by a very small side, I try glue that have a color like orange/brown (I dont remember the brand) it work ok but just for 2 weeks, after that it starts to move again, so now I try a Gel glue and it seems that work excellent, it doesn't move at all, with the other glue it holds, but it can move a little, seems that this glue is the solution, and it says in the boxx is water resistant so, better for me, I have to say that you have to ve very careful because a little drop in the mic and nobody will hear you again, the same for the speaker, so far I dont have problems :victory: so if you found a gel based glue in a little stick, try it if you have this problem

jacker60 said:
Well I'm back with some things to say, some friends I know seem that doesnt have this problem at all, weird, after some time I finally removed the grille it was just holded with strong by a very small side, I try glue that have a color like orange/brown (I dont remember the brand) it work ok but just for 2 weeks, after that it starts to move again, so now I try a Gel glue and it seems that work excellent, it doesn't move at all, with the other glue it holds, but it can move a little, seems that this glue is the solution, and it says in the boxx is water resistant so, better for me, I have to say that you have to ve very careful because a little drop in the mic and nobody will hear you again, the same for the speaker, so far I dont have problems :victory: so if you found a gel based glue in a little stick, try it if you have this problem
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Hi
Does anyone know where I can buy this part (black botton cover)?

I have tried to find a place that sells it and I could not find one.
However, I replace the screen on my phone (Xperia Z1s C6916) about three months ago, and only ripped the flex cable connecting the audio jack and sensor. When I did that, I bought a screen that was already connected to a frame. However, I forgot to transfer the mesh covering the speaker. I did not know it was just a mesh piece on the outside until now... I took the phone apart, yet again, ripped the flex cable connecting the microphone... Why are parts for this thing so expensive!?

Johann_London said:
Anyway I digress, has anybody else's speaker grille come off or bubbled up?
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Mine fell off a few months ago.

AkiraProject said:
Mine fell off a few months ago.
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Mine fell off yesterday. I bought mine in September. I'm glad the water proofing hasn't been affected by it (going by others' accounts, I'm too chicken to try it myself.) I was really upset cause I bought it only for the waterproofing and the other features were a plus. I'll super glue it then. India is getting too hot, the glue melted off.

Yeah mine fell off too, it's been off for a while now.
My USB flap fell off too, though it was probably my own fault over using it without care. So I guess mine isn't waterproof any more ? :victory: