My battery seems to jump from 6% down to 1% and dies within a minute of that.. does anyone else have this issue? Would you try and find an excuse to get a replacement? I do have sprint insurance.
It seems like you need to clear the stored battery stats.
If I remember correctly, I don't believe it's a good idea to keep letting your battery fully die. I think that I read somewhere that this shortens it's life. I could be talking out my a** too...lol
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sslbaron said:
It seems like you need to clear the stored battery stats.
If I remember correctly, I don't believe it's a good idea to keep letting your battery fully die. I think that I read somewhere that this shortens it's life. I could be talking out my a** too...lol
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You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
Tilde88 said:
You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
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Are you trying to say that this phone has more than one lipo cell and no balance charger? I call bull****.
akrod2as said:
Are you trying to say that this phone has more than one lipo cell and no balance charger? I call bull****.
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o.0, lol you are right, it IS a lipo. hadnt known that One had a lipo battery. what other phones have this? i know all the evos have lion, never went away from the evo line so I am out of the loop on that
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o.0, lol you are right, it IS a lipo. hadnt known that One had a lipo battery. what other phones have this? i know all the evos have lion, never went away from the evo line so I am out of the loop on that
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Actually all the Evos were lipo as well.
Tilde88 said:
You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
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Come on...there's no need to do this.
And there's no risk of damaging the battery at 0%. There are protection circuits that kick in far before the battery would cause catastrophic damage. That said, there's also little reason to run it down to 0%, so just charge it when you can.
The battery stats file is only to display what has been using the battery. It basically only contains the information you see on your battery stats page. It does not affect charging or interact with the charging circuits at all. The phone's hardware reports the charge level, not batterystats.bin.
Batterystats.bin is wiped every time you charge to 100%, regardless of the placebo app downloaded.
Don't let these people waste your time with their placebo silliness. Just charge the phone, and let the carefully designed charging hardware do what it was made to do, charge your phone.
If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just charge before 6%. Treat that as your new zero. Personally, I rarely get down so low, so it would be really no problem, but if it truly interferes with how you use it, absolutely return it.
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The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
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Dude, it's not a cordless drill. it's a cell phone, it has one 4 volt cell.
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Actually all the Evos were lipo as well.
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Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Felnarion said:
Come on...there's no need to do this.
And there's no risk of damaging the battery at 0%. There are protection circuits that kick in far before the battery would cause catastrophic damage. That said, there's also little reason to run it down to 0%, so just charge it when you can.
The battery stats file is only to display what has been using the battery. It basically only contains the information you see on your battery stats page. It does not affect charging or interact with the charging circuits at all. The phone's hardware reports the charge level, not batterystats.bin.
Batterystats.bin is wiped every time you charge to 100%, regardless of the placebo app downloaded.
Don't let these people waste your time with their placebo silliness. Just charge the phone, and let the carefully designed charging hardware do what it was made to do, charge your phone.
If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just charge before 6%. Treat that as your new zero. Personally, I rarely get down so low, so it would be really no problem, but if it truly interferes with how you use it, absolutely return it.
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Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
hdnet1 said:
Dude, it's not a cordless drill. it's a cell phone, it has one 4 volt cell.
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Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
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Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
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You seem to have coined the term avalanche. What does it mean? Link some literature about lithium polymer avalanches? The only way I see for this to be possible, or a thing, is if you're standing in front of a pile of them and some start to fall from being piled at an excessive angle.
You've been shown to be wrong about what the battery is made of, and the fact that it consists of a single cell...So I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would trust your expertise.
My battery has no issues. I charge it over night, leave for work, come home and my battery is in the 60-70%. At the end of the night I plug it in the charger around 30 to 40%. Repeated cycle for almost 2+ weeks with no single issue.
Don't run your battery under 6%. I mean who really does that. The second my old phone would send off alarms at 10 to 15 percent I would put it on a charger.
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Screen on phone is a juice sucker. Screen off the thing barely drains.
D3rped out Beastmode! HTC ONE!
So apparently my HTC One has a lithium ion battery battery instead of li-po, are there any disadvantages to having a li-ion battery?
Tilde88 said:
Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
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No I don't mean the HTC one x. I mean the evo 4g. It was a lithium polymer battery. It was labeled as lithium ion on the battery itself. Much like my cordless drills with lithium-ion polymer batteries say lithium ion on them. Sorry, but, you're wrong.
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Guys, i think my xperia is broken
last night my battery was empty so no big deal i thought.
today i've connected it to the charger to charge and pressed the ON button.
when i pressed it, a red light under the ON button started burning.
i thought? wtf? mayby because it's emty or something.
but after more then 1 hour of charging it still doesn't do anything.. and now even the redlight doesn't show up!
does anyone know what to do?
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Guys, i think my xperia is broken
last night my battery was empty so no big deal i thought.
today i've connected it to the charger to charge and pressed the ON button.
when i pressed it, a red light under the ON button started burning.
i thought? wtf? mayby because it's emty or something.
but after more then 1 hour of charging it still doesn't do anything.. and now even the redlight doesn't show up!
does anyone know what to do?
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Hello dear friend, I sympathise with you I had this exact same problem and was worried sick for a day and a half that it was dead! the red light under the power button is the battery fail light (as far as i can tell) it goes on for example when you plug the charger in and remove the battery. I've found if you run the battery down to absolute minimum it almost seems like the X1 cant detect the battery any more and displays the red light. I fixed mine by removing and replacing the battery a few times and plugging it into the wall charger for a few hours. keep trying and dont lose heart, like I say it took me a day and a half (with a sleepless night inbetween
Also mine, but after five minutes it's wake up.
Try simply to remove battery, or performe a soft reset via hardware button with the stylus.
Let you X1 charge for an hour or 2 and it will start up again, guess this is when the phone don't get a enough power to start up.
(Guess it can indicate some other error as well but probably just lack of juice in the battery .. )
thanks guys..
it is still not working but i know that the phone it self is OK.
i wend back to the store and they switched the battery from another xperia.
it worked fine
i'm so happy right now. it's charging at the moment, but still not going on, well, i have to wait and see then.
again: thanks for the posts guys
Mind you... it might take a while! I had it connected to a cheap usb charger for a night (which wasn't good enough obviously) and it took me the better part of a morning to get it to life again with the SE charger. I find it most irritating that this sort of thing isn' t mentioned in the manual. At least not where I could find it. Things like a phone that doesn't want to start make you sweat horribly.
I have this problem with mine but still no luck
Been dead for weeks now.... Finding it hard to get a copy of the receipt too bah
Only had it a month too..
It's prolly one cell in the battery that are "broken".
Had that on my X1. There are 3 cells in the battery and if one of them doesn't work as it should, the battery only delivers 3-3.1 volt.
Your phone "wakes up" at 3.335 volt but dies at 3.1. I've been measure it myself.
My phone are now back in business with a new battery, a new batterycover and latest software. No problem if you have guarantee...
PS... Try to avoid one thing. Avoid heat in battery. Lithium hates heat.
McGilljam said:
It's prolly one cell in the battery that are "broken".
Had that on my X1. There are 3 cells in the battery and if one of them doesn't work as it should, the battery only delivers 3-3.1 volt.
Your phone "wakes up" at 3.335 volt but dies at 3.1. I've been measure it myself.
My phone are now back in business with a new battery, a new batterycover and latest software. No problem if you have guarantee...
PS... Try to avoid one thing. Avoid heat in battery. Lithium hates heat.
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You are right, man.
Usually, if you discharge a battery till the very last drop, it can happen that:
A) one of the cell goes beyond its safety level, and it "breaks". That's unrecoverable, AFAIK.
B) the cells gets unbalanced, and you nedd several charge/discharge cycles to get them balanced and fully recovered.
Add to this that Usb charging is usually unable to wake up an almost totally drained battery. This won't happen with a normal charger, but Usb charging voltage is lower than normal (of course, it's usb not home plug!) so it has not enough power to wake up the dead battery. If you leave your device in charge for some minutes, it will eventually manage to wake the battery.
However, I noticed that the X1 has a bad power management. Usually my X1 low level battery threshold varies between 10% and 5%. One week ago, at 10% it just shut down and won't recharge, showing me the red light over power button. Removed battery 3/4 times and charged with home charger, it gets recovered. Try to plug the charger, remove the battery and insert it again, doing all this with the charger always plugged.
In my opinion, that's really annoying, I never know when it *really* has a low battery!
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B) the cells gets unbalanced, and you nedd several charge/discharge cycles to get them balanced and fully recovered.
yeah.. i had that with my P990i (symbian uiq3) phone the batter went in 1 day to 50% now it still has 80%
this same thing happend to me last night, i just pluged it to a wall charger & waited for an hour good thing when i pressed the power button it came back to life. was worried then and now its all good.
i had this on my xperia a while ago i think its just the battery is extremely dead.
after an hour of being plugged it in it turned on again
Red Power button Led
Glad to find this info, the red light gave me the chills at first too. My phone blacked out while using TomTom 7.4 on a stock unbranded NL Rom, after it had given me low batt. warnings. Now it's in the 'home plug' charger, sipping juice on the red light... I hope it comes out of it soon. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody has ideas on checking battery cell failure? Or battery diagnostics of some sort? It would be a shame to use a crippled battery just because you don't know it's operating below its max capacity. By the way, I'm not part of the lucky bunch in possession of a multi meter...
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As soon as I hit 'post' the notification Led's display charging! And the red light's off of course. Guess the first post brings some beginners luck, hehe. Anyway, thoughts regarding battery diagnostics etc are still welcome!
Encountered this and according to the helpdesk, it's cos the backup battery is empty so he advised me to charge the phone for half an hour without the battery, and then charge it with the battery after that. Didn't work. Called up the helpdesk again and he said for some, they've to charge (without the battery) for an hour. Ok, tried that. But still doesn't seem to be working. Gonna just leave it charging (with the battery) for a few more hours. If still can't guess I gotta bring it down to the service centre.
there is a backup battery in xperia???
leobox1 said:
there is a backup battery in xperia???
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Remove your battery, wait 3 minutes, insert again the battery. If you have lost date & time info, no, there is no backup battery, otherwise yes, there is.
Well, anyway, sent my X1 for servicing. Over at the service centre, they tried to 'boost my battery' but couldn't get it working. So had to leave it there for them to work on it.
Just had this same problem, cleaned the battery terminals and hey presto...it's all good again..
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Astoroth
Sent my X1 to the service centre with regards to this issue and they replaced the motherboard. They'd tried boosting the battery but no use.
Same problem.. this is what happened
ok, I came back from work an as usually i plug the charger in my xperia, the baterry left was like 30%, ok, then, I connect in the 3.5mm an autput for a big Radio so i can listen full music... so.. in a while, in my house there was a power down.. really fast one... like... 0.01secs... (like down and up really fast).. in that change my cellphone went down =S.. and sice today never get up ='(... there's just that red light in the power button each time I plug the charger on... any help?.. is the same problem of the topic? :S.. plzzz.. i dont have even a month with this pretty cellphone =( poor baby
I am not new to the phone and I have done battery calibrations many times. I used MIUI for a long time, then went to Pinnacle 1.1. After a few weeks one night after fully charging, I unplugged the charger and it dropped to 70% instantly. I could then plug the charger back in and it will not move from 70% for a while, then it will register 'fully charged'. Removal of the charger again will make it drop to 70%. Turning off the device and charging will show the green battery about 2/3 full, but not registering full. I then went back to MIUI thinking it was a rom flaw, but this problem has persisted. I am right now charging on stock JF6 with the same results. If this is indicative of a defective battery, has anyone seen this before? The battery is 14 months old.
TL;DR - It seems that the battery wont charge past 70% regardless of ROM/Kernel.
I had a similar problem but it was because I wasn't using the charger that comes with the phone switched chargers problem was solved.
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Have u tried draing ur battery, use tge battery till tge phone switches of on its own and then recharge it while the phone is off.
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mrjay711 said:
I had a similar problem but it was because I wasn't using the charger that comes with the phone switched chargers problem was solved.
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I am using the charger that came with the phone. Also tried a blackberry charger as well as usb charging it.
rkkaranrk said:
Have u tried draing ur battery, use tge battery till tge phone switches of on its own and then recharge it while the phone is off.
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I drained the battery last night, and then charged while off fully. The green battery icon went to 100%, and as soon as I turned it on it said 73%.
You might want to check into getting a new battery I got a extended battery for 10$ you can probably find the original sized battery for about the same price if you look around.
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Google "bump charging". I had a similar issue when I was on serendipity vii, it would charge to full, but as soon as I unplugged it would drop to 80%. I bump charged, then calibrated. All was well after that.
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phrix626 said:
Google "bump charging". I had a similar issue when I was on serendipity vii, it would charge to full, but as soon as I unplugged it would drop to 80%. I bump charged, then calibrated. All was well after that.
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Tried that. It hangs at about the 2/3 full level on the large green battery icon when the phone is charging off so I really can't do a proper bump charge.
I think I am going to resign to it being a battery past its prime...
New batteries are fairly cheap, plus I've heard that if you even mention faulty battery to at&t they ship you a new one for free...
studacris said:
New batteries are fairly cheap, plus I've heard that if you even mention faulty battery to at&t they ship you a new one for free...
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I find that hard to believe, but it can't hurt to try!
Sounds like you need a battery calibration..
1. discharge completely
2. plug into a USB port on the computer for a slow charge up to 100% (overnight while "off")
3. unplug the device and turn it on
4. if you have a ROM with CWM installed, clear the battery stats at this time.
5. plug it into usb until it's charged to 100% (while on)
6. unplug the device and turn it off
7. plug in into usb again until its charged to 100%(while "off")
8. turn it on and use it as normal
This will allow the device to relearn it's battery charging characteristics. This is the battery calibration.
AdamOutler said:
Sounds like you need a battery calibration..
1. discharge completely
2. plug into a USB port on the computer for a slow charge up to 100% (overnight while "off")
3. unplug the device and turn it on
4. if you have a ROM with CWM installed, clear the battery stats at this time.
5. plug it into usb until it's charged to 100% (while on)
6. unplug the device and turn it off
7. plug in into usb again until its charged to 100%(while "off")
8. turn it on and use it as normal
This will allow the device to relearn it's battery charging characteristics. This is the battery calibration.
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In stages 2 or 5 it never reaches 100%.
I am going to try a coworkers battery tomorrow at full charge. That should settle it.
orlandoxpolice said:
In stages 2 or 5 it never reaches 100%.
I am going to try a coworkers battery tomorrow at full charge. That should settle it.
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You are not leaving it long enough. It will reach 100% once it charges what it believes is 30% more. It must be off and you must clear the Batt stats.
Once it stops charging it marks that as fully charged. Your battery needs calibration.
AdamOutler said:
You are not leaving it long enough. It will reach 100% once it charges what it believes is 30% more. It must be off and you must clear the Batt stats.
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I left it off and plugged in overnight and it never reached 100%, but I will give it a shot again this weekend.
AdamOutler said:
Once it stops charging it marks that as fully charged. Your battery needs calibration.
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You are right.
I did a small test with a coworkers battery today.
His battery in his phone - 88%
His battery in my phone - 58%
Leaves a delta of 30% which is exactly why mine stops charging at 70%.
It has gotten to 100% while off charging in the green. I then booted to CWM recovery and wiped battery stats, but it turns on at 70% again. It is almost like it isn't deleting the file.
orlandoxpolice said:
I find that hard to believe, but it can't hurt to try!
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It's true, go to your nearest AT&T store and tell them about your issue and they'll take your information (name, address etc...) and ship you a brand new OEM (Samsung) battery no questions asked. No idea why they don't just hand you one on the spot, but it only takes a few days to get to you anyways.
orlandoxpolice said:
You are right.
I did a small test with a coworkers battery today.
His battery in his phone - 88%
His battery in my phone - 58%
Leaves a delta of 30% which is exactly why mine stops charging at 70%.
It has gotten to 100% while off charging in the green. I then booted to CWM recovery and wiped battery stats, but it turns on at 70% again. It is almost like it isn't deleting the file.
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did you finish the procedure I mentioned? There is a calibration procedure. It involves turning it on and off several times and plugging it in an unplugging it several times.
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did you finish the procedure I mentioned? There is a calibration procedure. It involves turning it on and off several times and plugging it in an unplugging it several times.
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I followed the calibration instructions perfectly. I have done it quite often actually. Didn't work. It acts as if CWM isn't actually deleting the file.
Deleted batterystats.bin via a terminal emulator and still no luck.
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Guys.
Am on ICS THS B16 with ICY GLITCH 14 B5 kernel..
I found this few mins back on my Cappy..
I had around 30% charge in my cappy and when i plugged in, i felt the warm on the back door while its charging.. It took around 1 1/2 hrs to Reach 80%..
Now When the device showed 90%, the back door is so chill cos of my climate here.. but still its charging...
Is it Normal?
Or The Charging thingi stopped in the OS and showing fake %???
What's the issue exactly? It's normal for a phone to get hot while charging
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The issue is that.
As you said The device gets hotter while in charger...
But here it does not when its at 90% and it does till 89%
Oh wait, I think I read this somewhere. I vaguely remember reading that the battery will fast-charge until it reaches a certain threshold (like 80% or possibly 90%?), where it begins to trickle charge so it doesn't overcharge or something. I could be completely wrong; I might be referencing something completely different but maybe it's somehow relevant. Either way, I really wouldn't worry about your charging temperature unless it's getting really, REALLY hot.
Is this when using an outlet to charge the phone or a usb port on your computer? I've noticed different charge speed between the two.
I've also capped my charging at 90% because I've heard that charging to 100% isn't great for long-term battery life.
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Oh wait, I think I read this somewhere. I vaguely remember reading that the battery will fast-charge until it reaches a certain threshold (like 80% or possibly 90%?), where it begins to trickle charge so it doesn't overcharge or something. I could be completely wrong; I might be referencing something completely different but maybe it's somehow relevant. Either way, I really wouldn't worry about your charging temperature unless it's getting really, REALLY hot.
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This is the exact reason. Li-Ion batteries can be damaged by keeping them at 100% charge or letting them get down to nearly 0% charge, so when batteries get to 90% they'll trickle charge. This is a normal safety procedure and all phones do it in some way or another - some phones will charge to 100% and then discharge slightly to hold at 90-95%
This is also why you should:
1. NEVER EVER let your battery go down to 0%
2. NEVER EVER use the charge to 100% - unplug, re-calibrate cycle to bypass this safety system that people post on here on a semi regular basis.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Hi!
I have this phone for one month and three weeks. I notice my phone battery usage seems to drop from 100% to 90% quite quickly, but slows down after that. Another thing, I plug my HTC charger and than plug it out, the battery increases by one percent magically. I plug it back in and than it drops by like 4% or 1%.
For example, I had my phone charged at 98%. I unplug the charger and it increases by 1%, so it is on 99% now. I plug the charger back into the phone and it drops to 95%. I did this again when it charges to 99%, same thing happened.
So can anyone help me out here?
Thank you
Estimating battery charge level is very hard, especially when there is also a current draw from it.
Leave it to charge for longer after it has gone green and stop worrying about it.
as BenPope wrote, leave it for a while with green light..
same happens to me...if i take it immediately once it hit 100%, I will drop to 97% in 5min
i have same problem when device is on while charging
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Thank you for the response. I heard that once the led light goes green during charging, I should pull the plug straight away from the phone. Does this help to prevent battery from deteriorating quickly? I know that the phone's lithion battery prevent cases of overcharging, but can it still be subjected to killing the battery life faster. Thank you once again.
don't know about that just thought u could probably try let your battery drain completely and put it on charge after
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Thank you for the response. I heard that once the led light goes green during charging, I should pull the plug straight away from the phone. Does this help to prevent battery from deteriorating quickly? I know that the phone's lithion battery prevent cases of overcharging, but can it still be subjected to killing the battery life faster. Thank you once again.
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The One wont let your phone overcharge, as you said, so theres no need to worry about leaving it plugged in.
As others said, eventhough your phone says 100% and the light goes green, this doesnt mean your phones actually topped off. Leave it in for 10 minutes after the light goes green and the quick drop from 100 to 90 that you mentioned will stop occuring. I can verify that this works.
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The One wont let your phone overcharge, as you said, so theres no need to worry about leaving it plugged in.
As others said, eventhough your phone says 100% and the light goes green, this doesnt mean your phones actually topped off. Leave it in for 10 minutes after the light goes green and the quick drop from 100 to 90 that you mentioned will stop occuring. I can verify that this works.
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I see. I left the phone charge for 20mins more and it fixed the rapid battery drain issue. Guess I should stop thinking too much about it.
Thank you.
Hi guys,
I normally charge my p20 pro every night. Plugging in an hour ago, I recognized that supercharge doesn't work. Sometimes charging completely stops.
Tried to reboot, nothing changes...
Installed battery app and see that maximum charging current is about 1700 mah.
Does anyone now what it could be?
Tried another charger, same situation. Tried different cable, same situation. P20 from my girlfriend on my charger and supercharge works fine.
Thx Benny
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Must be a fault with your phone if thought tried another known good charger and it still doesn't work.
Another strange behavior is that sometimes charging stops. And sometimes usb options pop up like if you connect to a computer... But phone is on charger.
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Sounds like hardware issue. Get a replacement.
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Hi there, I've been dealing with the same issue as you for the past few days. Mine I can confirm has resolved automatically. Do you expose your device to water or moisture alot? I believe that the p20 has been optimized for safety incase the phone is ever dealt with moisture in the charging port. My issue was that the phone kept saying 'supplying power to connected USB device' when in reality, there was no device connected to the phone in the first place. This was on the night I had dipped the device in water, it appears the USB port is more susceptible to being affected by moisture than any other area of the device. I have taken note that while the charging port is wet, the phone does not enter supercharging. As for how I was able to resolve this issue, I first used a blower to clean any dust or debris in the charging port, this allowed the device to return to its normal state and not think that it is connected to another device. However, this still didn't allow supercharging to work, the following day i was desperate to get this fixed without taking it to the service center. And it would still only show 'charging' and not 'supercharging' whenever I connected the device to the charger (it would actually show super charging for a split second and then going back to charging). I finally decided to just clean the port with water instead (I know this might sound risky and stupid) and so I did it. When I tried plugging it in again it would not supercharge, but i already had anticipated this. Instead, I waited for the next couple of hours for the water to dry out and when it did, finally super charge was working once again. So my suggestion to you is:
1) Clean the charging port as well as you can, and have some patience (incase you do end up using water, as the phone does not super charge when it finds the port to be wet.) Also if you do end up using a pin or something similar make sure to gently wipe away the debris (if any) and be careful not to damage any of the connectors of the port.
2) disconnect the charging adapter and make sure it is plugged out for atleast 30 minutes before plugging the cable and adapter again.
3) if these don't help you then you should definitely go to the service centre.
EDIT: IF YOU DO USE WATER PLEASE MAKE SURE TO ONLY USE A SMALL AMOUNT AND NOT BATHE THE CHARGING PORT IN WATER!!
Thx psycho!
My phone got wet yesterday and the day before. Today morning supercharge works again. Yesterday evening the phone said normal charging but not plugged into wall. Only plugged the charger into phone.
That might be a symptom of a short circuit by water.
I got an app to measure the current ampere.
Does anyone know how much ampere the p20 takes from the charger?
I know that the charger goes down with the ampere when getting near 100%.
I will take a measurement in the afternoon again when supercharging.
How long should I take to get from 30 percent to 90 percent for example?
I hope it's not a hardware problem...
Thx guys.
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You're welcome! I couldn't find any solutions online too so I get how you feel. I think it's just the way they programmed this phone, it won't super charge when it detects any kind of moisture underneath it, when that dries up it goes back to normal so it charges as it should. As for the max current you should expect it to be around 4800 mA - 4900 mA on lower battery levels. Expect this to decrease over time but that is normal, it's just how Huawei's super charging works to ensure that your battery lasts longer and is safe to use. So if it charges above 4000 mA when you first plug it in you should be good. You'll notice the phone starts of slow but as each second passes by the charging speed rises. Also expect charging to slow down on heavy uses such as gaming and when the phone is hot. I think you should be fine as long as the phone continously says that it's super charging at all battery levels. Expect a 0-100% in about 1h 20 minutes.
Below is an example of the max current speeds I get out supercharging but note that this varies slightly depending on battery percentage.
This happened to me too ?
It has been 4 days since my phone got wet and it still doesn't support suppercharge. What do I do? ? Currently charging at 1700 mA according to Ampere
markabes23 said:
It has been 4 days since my phone got wet and it still doesn't support suppercharge. What do I do? ? Currently charging at 1700 mA according to Ampere
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Have some patience. As long as the phone displays supercharging in the lockscreen it's fine. It's also possible that there's still moisture in the charging port/battery area that the phone detects which is preventing it from supercharging. I recommend drying the phone thoroughly and waiting. If it doesn't work within a week I recommend factory resetting your device and/or trying a different cable and adapter. If nothing works, i recommend taking your device to the service center. I have personally experienced this myself and the issue had resolved itself within 3-4 of occurance.
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Have some patience. As long as the phone displays supercharging in the lockscreen it's fine. It's also possible that there's still moisture in the charging port/battery area that the phone detects which is preventing it from supercharging. I recommend drying the phone thoroughly and waiting. If it doesn't work within a week I recommend factory resetting your device and/or trying a different cable and adapter. If nothing works, i recommend taking your device to the service center. I have personally experienced this myself and the issue had resolved itself within 3-4 of occurance.
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Yes, Charging will appear and then the device will say SuperCharging and will go back to Charging a split second after. Haaaay. This is so frustrating. Today marks the 5th day
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Yes, Charging will appear and then the device will say SuperCharging and will go back to Charging a split second after. Haaaay. This is so frustrating. Today marks the 5th day
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I had the same issue, except that before it wouldn't say supercharging for even a split second and it would only say charging. Overtime though, the phone eventually started saying supercharging for a split second (just like in your case). I feel as though this is a good sign.
Avoid charging your phone overnight if you can, it isn't good for the phone, heat etc, supposed to shut off and not allow anything through but it still does and it's best avoided.
In regards to your device not taking the full effect.
It does actually sound like a fault, allow a complete discharge (also something you shouldn't do) then give it a shot, plug straight into a wall rather than an extension.
Other than that I'd say RMA.
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Avoid charging your phone overnight if you can, it isn't good for the phone, heat etc, supposed to shut off and not allow anything through but it still does and it's best avoided.
In regards to your device not taking the full effect.
It does actually sound like a fault, allow a complete discharge (also something you shouldn't do) then give it a shot, plug straight into a wall rather than an extension.
Other than that I'd say RMA.
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It's been proven that keeping charger connected at 100% charge does not damage the battery and some times it's even good to discharge the phone completely so battery is 0% since it helps the battery and operating system to keep proper % level registered. Since it has happened that battery begins to think at 45% is 0% and 100% is 100% so when it reaches 45% it shuts down and tells you batter is empty 0%. This is because battery has been miss calibrated in the operating system which has an file that registers which point battery is empty and full. So this is why emptying the battery fully few times does help calibration to stay correctly with 0% as 0% and 100% as 100%.
For the OP it seems somethings odd with supercharge, could be USB port on the phone, USB controler on main board or the charger and cable.
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It's been proven that keeping charger connected at 100% charge does not damage the battery and some times it's even good to discharge the phone completely so battery is 0% since it helps the battery and operating system to keep proper % level registered. Since it has happened that battery begins to think at 45% is 0% and 100% is 100% so when it reaches 45% it shuts down and tells you batter is empty 0%. This is because battery has been miss calibrated in the operating system which has an file that registers which point battery is empty and full. So this is why emptying the battery fully few times does help calibration to stay correctly with 0% as 0% and 100% as 100%.
For the OP it seems somethings odd with supercharge, could be USB port on the phone, USB controler on main board or the charger and cable.
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OMFG there is always one, Lol i'm not going to go into this any more than i absolutely have to.
To put it mildly, you're completely wrong, and i don't care what you've read, please understand physics, if you push power towards something and continue that pressure, whether electric or otherwise, something has to take the brunt of that force, capacitors can't do this forever, which is why they burn out.
I've worked in the mobile industry for over 20 years, i've seen what 6 months of charging every single device on the planet does EVERY SINGLE TIM, iPhones down to nokia 100's
Please don't go on about this, i've seen this 1,000's of times on 1,000's of devices.
Your battery will either bloat or lose efficiency, or your actual device will inherit anomalies, i really do not have time to type what i typed nearly 10 years ago so you can understand.
Don't talk to me about capacitors, which is the only thing which is stopping that charge from getting to the motherboard of the device.
The only reason you should charge your device overnight is because your provider wants your device to die so you can buy another, and that's IT.
I've seen a battery which was a highly rated lithium battery stretch a device in half with industrial sized screws, the battery stretched from 0.4" to 2.2 inches.
The only thing i did was to charge it a lot and it split the device in half (same device used to diagnose mercedes benz cars and BMW's)
Please don't drop "it's been proven" in here, you're very very wrong and the only person you're helping is your provider.
You make your decision who you'd like to listen to, i can't be arsed arguing any more than i already have.
To the OP.
RMA your phone, that's not right.
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OMFG there is always one, Lol i'm not going to go into this any more than i absolutely have to.
To put it mildly, you're completely wrong, and i don't care what you've read, please understand physics, if you push power towards something and continue that pressure, whether electric or otherwise, something has to take the brunt of that force, capacitors can't do this forever, which is why they burn out.
I've worked in the mobile industry for over 20 years, i've seen what 6 months of charging every single device on the planet does EVERY SINGLE TIM, iPhones down to nokia 100's
Please don't go on about this, i've seen this 1,000's of times on 1,000's of devices.
Your battery will either bloat or lose efficiency, or your actual device will inherit anomalies, i really do not have time to type what i typed nearly 10 years ago so you can understand.
Don't talk to me about capacitors, which is the only thing which is stopping that charge from getting to the motherboard of the device.
The only reason you should charge your device overnight is because your provider wants your device to die so you can buy another, and that's IT.
I've seen a battery which was a highly rated lithium battery stretch a device in half with industrial sized screws, the battery stretched from 0.4" to 2.2 inches.
The only thing i did was to charge it a lot and it split the device in half (same device used to diagnose mercedes benz cars and BMW's)
Please don't drop "it's been proven" in here, you're very very wrong and the only person you're helping is your provider.
You make your decision who you'd like to listen to, i can't be arsed arguing any more than i already have.
To the OP.
RMA your phone, that's not right.
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To bad for you then, since your fact are wrong. It's been proven my bigger professionals out there that it's a myth that battery gets damaged when keeping charger connected at 100% since when it reaches 100% charge point it will stop charging the battery, but mobile will still be running from Charger. So yeah just admit you are wrong, i'm not the one that's wrong.
Also they did say one thing, damage did occur only on very old batteries that exsisted years ago, then those kind of batteries couldn't handle and would become damaged when charger was connected at 100% and it was different type of battery back then as well. Now we got something called Ion battery which can handle the full charge better than old batteries did.
Also idc how many years you been working with phones, alot of people still think wrong and have wrong facts still.
But now your words are against over 10 or more proffessionals out there that has proven opisit answer, so yeah just admit you are one with wrong facts.
Not last but least, alot of people take old facts with new batteries and still belives that battery are affected same way. But answer is no it isn't affected same way. lithium ion is another kind of battery we use for quite few years now. But before lithium ion came then it was a another kind of battery that did not handle itself well with 100% charge and would easily wear out alot quicker and get damaged.
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To bad for you then, since your fact are wrong. It's been proven my bigger professionals out there that it's a myth that battery gets damaged when keeping charger connected at 100% since when it reaches 100% charge point it will stop charging the battery, but mobile will still be running from Charger. So yeah just admit you are wrong, i'm not the one that's wrong.
Also they did say one thing, damage did occur only on very old batteries that exsisted years ago, then those kind of batteries couldn't handle and would become damaged when charger was connected at 100% and it was different type of battery back then as well. Now we got something called Ion battery which can handle the full charge better than old batteries did.
Also idc how many years you been working with phones, alot of people still think wrong and have wrong facts still.
But now your words are against over 10 or more proffessionals out there that has proven opisit answer, so yeah just admit you are one with wrong facts.
Not last but least, alot of people take old facts with new batteries and still belives that battery are affected same way. But answer is no it isn't affected same way. lithium ion is another kind of battery we use for quite few years now. But before lithium ion came then it was a another kind of battery that did not handle itself well with 100% charge and would easily wear out alot quicker and get damaged.
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Lol ok as I said I'm not going to go into it
You overcharge your phone and see how you get on.
Tell me have you ever got anything close to these battery stats for SOT
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/screen-time-leaderboard-post-longest-sot-t3780178
14 hours 20 mins?
No I know you haven't
You carry on and I'll do my thing.
Max up time for an iPhone 6 183 hours.
That's a week to you.
I know you have never seen these numbers.
But whilst you're sitting there with your head in the sand overcharging your phone every night lol.
Spare a moment for what you could have.
Don't spread crap without proof.
I have tangible proof I've seen and had to replace devices because of it. Screens, batteries, buttons.
I've seen more kit then you'll ever see.
You carry on the way you are but don't tell people to do what you do. It's idiotic and until you realise that you'll believe what you've read.
FYI you're relying on capacitors.
The second they fail your screwed.
Lol lithium is lithium..
You charge it it expands, please try to understand the logistics and dynamics of what your are attempting to talk about.
Or I'll tell you what, you keep overcharging your poor phone and I won't and we'll see who's phone lasts the longest after a year. I promise you I'll put you to shame.
You're taking someone else's word you don't know over someone with first hand experience of this behaviour
On your head be it
Supercharging Works Again!
So after 11 days my p20 pro's ability to supercharge is back and Im so relived. Thanks for all your help!
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So after 11 days my p20 pro's ability to supercharge is back and Im so relived. Thanks for all your help!
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Did you noticably change anything? Or does it appear random?
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Did you noticably change anything? Or does it appear random?
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It just appears randomly. When I was at work earlier, it worked. But now that I'm home and I plugged in my phone it doesn't work again. It just promps every once in a while. It's like trying to supercharge and something is stopping my phone from doing it
my pro had a swim last night, and now it doesn't charge at all..