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I have this strange problem that just cropped up. After a full recharge the other day the battery showed normal draining. When I tried to recharge it wouldn't; neither from the wall charger or usb by computer. So the battery showed steady drain unless charging, but never got more charge. Finally when turning on the phone on battery alone it shows 1% charge, and there's nothing I can do about it, the phone will turn itself off.
Diagnostics: I measured the battery voltage and it is ~4.2 volts. This seems like a full battery yet the phone doesn't see it.
I measured the voltage at the battery terminals in the phone while hooked up to charger which was ~4.2 volts. So it seems the battery is being charged.
Why is the phone not seeing the battery charge? Is the battery dead even though it measures 4.2v?
I did run the gps before this happened using gps tool, bit I think I turned it all off. Anyway more than one soft reset didn't help.
Thanks,
Ed
ATT Tilt 8925 running gthing Blackwood rom with Vista BatteryHide. Original ATT radio.
No real answer here but perhaps something to try:
I am dealing with another member who has a similar problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377675&page=2 From post 17 onward.
With battery in, the orange charge light comes on and all seems normal. However with a few seconds of turning on the message that the main battery is critcally low comes up and the phone turns off. He has tried another battery with the same result. This happens even with the charger connected.
(EDIT: I have now read that his has - for no obvious reason started to work ok - Now even more convinced it's a charging circuit lock-up issue - given time and possibly a bit of battery fiddling and it comes good in the end - see No 2 below)
Now I'm wondering whether this could be one of two things:
1.
A hardware fault - possibly in the charging circuit or more crudely one of the battery circuit board connectors is not connecting.
OR
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The circuit that controls charging has to put it crudely become "stuck" in a similar fashion to those who get the RLOD red LED showing when they connect the charger. A commonly accepted trick for overcoming the RLOD is to connect the charger and wriggle the battery on and off the four contact pins. This presumably has the effect of forcing the charging circuit to re-set itself. I just wonder whether it might have the same effect in your situation.
Mike
hey.. that would be me with the similar issue.
i just tried a couple more things.. check out the thread.
More info.
Battery in and out holding the power button had no effect. Phone runs fine while plugged in. Plug it in and after 5 seconds the amber LED turns to red. While plugged in the red led will flash amber every so often.
I measured the battery voltage as I turned the phone on, it dropped to ~ 3.98v, then came back to 4.1v as the phone turned itself off. It gets all the way to my Today screen before going off. Just sitting in the phone with it off is 4.1v. Hook up the charger and the battery sees 4.18 and rising after 20 seconds. These are direct measurements at the battery terminals while in the phone.
So this looks like a software issue to me. The phone is charging the battery and there is plenty of power to run the phone, the phone somehow doesn't see it that way. It sees a dead battery. Well, I guess it could be a voltage sensor gone bad , somewhere somehow. Next step is to hard reset and see if it makes any difference.
edit: While plugged in and the screen on, the led stays amber. When the screen goes off(set for 2 minutes) the led turns red. Screen back on, led amber. I just set the screen not to go off while plugged in(charging), we'll see. The power is showing 7% now and says charging, too early to tell if it's rising or not.
edit 2: It stayed on the charger for several hours and never moved past 7%. Tried a hard reset with no luck. Next step is to send it to a repair shop(I bought it used) and hopefully spend only the $95-$125 they quoted.
Will keep you apprised.
Ed
elknimrod said:
I have this strange problem that just cropped up. After a full recharge the other day the battery showed normal draining. When I tried to recharge it wouldn't; neither from the wall charger or usb by computer. So the battery showed steady drain unless charging, but never got more charge. Finally when turning on the phone on battery alone it shows 1% charge, and there's nothing I can do about it, the phone will turn itself off.
Diagnostics: I measured the battery voltage and it is ~4.2 volts. This seems like a full battery yet the phone doesn't see it.
I measured the voltage at the battery terminals in the phone while hooked up to charger which was ~4.2 volts. So it seems the battery is being charged.
Why is the phone not seeing the battery charge? Is the battery dead even though it measures 4.2v?
I did run the gps before this happened using gps tool, bit I think I turned it all off. Anyway more than one soft reset didn't help.
Thanks,
Ed
ATT Tilt 8925 running gthing Blackwood rom with Vista BatteryHide. Original ATT radio.
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Att Tilt Power/Battery Issues.
I am having somewhat similar issues with my Tilt, with the power/battery problems as described previously. I woke up this morning, and attempted to turn my phone on, and it wouldnt come on at all. I then plugged it into the ac adapter, and the LED comes on, and goes green. I waited a few moments, then powered the phone on to take a look at the battery life, and the phone boots up, then reboots during the splash screen. After it reboots itself, I check the battery indicator and it shows 1%. If I exit the battery screen, and re-enter it, it will say 100%. Now, as soon as I remove the charger from the system, it automatically powers down. I played with it for about 15 minutes, but needed to head to work, so I took the phone with me, and attempted to use my car charger. Same problem. Now, I figured, fine, I'll see how it behaves while I am at work, so I brought my charger to work, and have it plugged in at my desk, and if I leave it plugged in and on, it stays on for about 5 minutes, then automatically reboots. LED stays green, but phone will not stay on, if unplugged, or plugged in for longer than 5 minutes. I have never dropped it, and have babied the phone like no other, concidering I paid $400 for it. I'm a little bummed out, but cant determine if its a battery or hardware problem. Any advice/input for me from any of you guys? before I head to the ATT store, and cry for a new phone? Thanks a bunch for any responses to this.
*UPDATE* After I got off work, I went into my local ATT store, explained the situation, and was given a brand new replacement phone in like 10 minutes. I was under 30 days owning it, so he just swapped it out, barley any questions asked. (altho i explained my situation in detail as it was). So.... hopefully it doesnt happen again, or else I'll have to use the warranty. Anyways, Any insight on what may cause this would always be helpful for both myself and the community. =)
new news
EDIT: They got it Monday and I got it back Friday. Good turnaround! They fixed the problem, it works perfectly now. I recommend these people.
Ed
Sent it off to Cell Phone Repair(CPR) in Chicago that gave me an estimate of $95 (inc. ship. back) based on my description. They just called and told me it was corrosion around and in the power/usb port. They got it yesterday and will send it back repaired tomorrow with a 90 day warranty. No more saunas for this phone(it was only one! )
I'll let you know if they work out well or not.
Ed
elknimrod said:
I have this strange problem that just cropped up. After a full recharge the other day the battery showed normal draining. When I tried to recharge it wouldn't; neither from the wall charger or usb by computer. So the battery showed steady drain unless charging, but never got more charge. Finally when turning on the phone on battery alone it shows 1% charge, and there's nothing I can do about it, the phone will turn itself off.
Diagnostics: I measured the battery voltage and it is ~4.2 volts. This seems like a full battery yet the phone doesn't see it.
I measured the voltage at the battery terminals in the phone while hooked up to charger which was ~4.2 volts. So it seems the battery is being charged.
Why is the phone not seeing the battery charge? Is the battery dead even though it measures 4.2v?
I did run the gps before this happened using gps tool, bit I think I turned it all off. Anyway more than one soft reset didn't help.
Thanks,
Ed
ATT Tilt 8925 running gthing Blackwood rom with Vista BatteryHide. Original ATT radio.
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Guys, i think my xperia is broken
last night my battery was empty so no big deal i thought.
today i've connected it to the charger to charge and pressed the ON button.
when i pressed it, a red light under the ON button started burning.
i thought? wtf? mayby because it's emty or something.
but after more then 1 hour of charging it still doesn't do anything.. and now even the redlight doesn't show up!
does anyone know what to do?
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Guys, i think my xperia is broken
last night my battery was empty so no big deal i thought.
today i've connected it to the charger to charge and pressed the ON button.
when i pressed it, a red light under the ON button started burning.
i thought? wtf? mayby because it's emty or something.
but after more then 1 hour of charging it still doesn't do anything.. and now even the redlight doesn't show up!
does anyone know what to do?
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Hello dear friend, I sympathise with you I had this exact same problem and was worried sick for a day and a half that it was dead! the red light under the power button is the battery fail light (as far as i can tell) it goes on for example when you plug the charger in and remove the battery. I've found if you run the battery down to absolute minimum it almost seems like the X1 cant detect the battery any more and displays the red light. I fixed mine by removing and replacing the battery a few times and plugging it into the wall charger for a few hours. keep trying and dont lose heart, like I say it took me a day and a half (with a sleepless night inbetween
Also mine, but after five minutes it's wake up.
Try simply to remove battery, or performe a soft reset via hardware button with the stylus.
Let you X1 charge for an hour or 2 and it will start up again, guess this is when the phone don't get a enough power to start up.
(Guess it can indicate some other error as well but probably just lack of juice in the battery .. )
thanks guys..
it is still not working but i know that the phone it self is OK.
i wend back to the store and they switched the battery from another xperia.
it worked fine
i'm so happy right now. it's charging at the moment, but still not going on, well, i have to wait and see then.
again: thanks for the posts guys
Mind you... it might take a while! I had it connected to a cheap usb charger for a night (which wasn't good enough obviously) and it took me the better part of a morning to get it to life again with the SE charger. I find it most irritating that this sort of thing isn' t mentioned in the manual. At least not where I could find it. Things like a phone that doesn't want to start make you sweat horribly.
I have this problem with mine but still no luck
Been dead for weeks now.... Finding it hard to get a copy of the receipt too bah
Only had it a month too..
It's prolly one cell in the battery that are "broken".
Had that on my X1. There are 3 cells in the battery and if one of them doesn't work as it should, the battery only delivers 3-3.1 volt.
Your phone "wakes up" at 3.335 volt but dies at 3.1. I've been measure it myself.
My phone are now back in business with a new battery, a new batterycover and latest software. No problem if you have guarantee...
PS... Try to avoid one thing. Avoid heat in battery. Lithium hates heat.
McGilljam said:
It's prolly one cell in the battery that are "broken".
Had that on my X1. There are 3 cells in the battery and if one of them doesn't work as it should, the battery only delivers 3-3.1 volt.
Your phone "wakes up" at 3.335 volt but dies at 3.1. I've been measure it myself.
My phone are now back in business with a new battery, a new batterycover and latest software. No problem if you have guarantee...
PS... Try to avoid one thing. Avoid heat in battery. Lithium hates heat.
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You are right, man.
Usually, if you discharge a battery till the very last drop, it can happen that:
A) one of the cell goes beyond its safety level, and it "breaks". That's unrecoverable, AFAIK.
B) the cells gets unbalanced, and you nedd several charge/discharge cycles to get them balanced and fully recovered.
Add to this that Usb charging is usually unable to wake up an almost totally drained battery. This won't happen with a normal charger, but Usb charging voltage is lower than normal (of course, it's usb not home plug!) so it has not enough power to wake up the dead battery. If you leave your device in charge for some minutes, it will eventually manage to wake the battery.
However, I noticed that the X1 has a bad power management. Usually my X1 low level battery threshold varies between 10% and 5%. One week ago, at 10% it just shut down and won't recharge, showing me the red light over power button. Removed battery 3/4 times and charged with home charger, it gets recovered. Try to plug the charger, remove the battery and insert it again, doing all this with the charger always plugged.
In my opinion, that's really annoying, I never know when it *really* has a low battery!
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B) the cells gets unbalanced, and you nedd several charge/discharge cycles to get them balanced and fully recovered.
yeah.. i had that with my P990i (symbian uiq3) phone the batter went in 1 day to 50% now it still has 80%
this same thing happend to me last night, i just pluged it to a wall charger & waited for an hour good thing when i pressed the power button it came back to life. was worried then and now its all good.
i had this on my xperia a while ago i think its just the battery is extremely dead.
after an hour of being plugged it in it turned on again
Red Power button Led
Glad to find this info, the red light gave me the chills at first too. My phone blacked out while using TomTom 7.4 on a stock unbranded NL Rom, after it had given me low batt. warnings. Now it's in the 'home plug' charger, sipping juice on the red light... I hope it comes out of it soon. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody has ideas on checking battery cell failure? Or battery diagnostics of some sort? It would be a shame to use a crippled battery just because you don't know it's operating below its max capacity. By the way, I'm not part of the lucky bunch in possession of a multi meter...
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As soon as I hit 'post' the notification Led's display charging! And the red light's off of course. Guess the first post brings some beginners luck, hehe. Anyway, thoughts regarding battery diagnostics etc are still welcome!
Encountered this and according to the helpdesk, it's cos the backup battery is empty so he advised me to charge the phone for half an hour without the battery, and then charge it with the battery after that. Didn't work. Called up the helpdesk again and he said for some, they've to charge (without the battery) for an hour. Ok, tried that. But still doesn't seem to be working. Gonna just leave it charging (with the battery) for a few more hours. If still can't guess I gotta bring it down to the service centre.
there is a backup battery in xperia???
leobox1 said:
there is a backup battery in xperia???
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Remove your battery, wait 3 minutes, insert again the battery. If you have lost date & time info, no, there is no backup battery, otherwise yes, there is.
Well, anyway, sent my X1 for servicing. Over at the service centre, they tried to 'boost my battery' but couldn't get it working. So had to leave it there for them to work on it.
Just had this same problem, cleaned the battery terminals and hey presto...it's all good again..
Regards,
Astoroth
Sent my X1 to the service centre with regards to this issue and they replaced the motherboard. They'd tried boosting the battery but no use.
Same problem.. this is what happened
ok, I came back from work an as usually i plug the charger in my xperia, the baterry left was like 30%, ok, then, I connect in the 3.5mm an autput for a big Radio so i can listen full music... so.. in a while, in my house there was a power down.. really fast one... like... 0.01secs... (like down and up really fast).. in that change my cellphone went down =S.. and sice today never get up ='(... there's just that red light in the power button each time I plug the charger on... any help?.. is the same problem of the topic? :S.. plzzz.. i dont have even a month with this pretty cellphone =( poor baby
hi!
i was just wondering, my tytn 2 is not charging, when i look at the battery meter, it says charging, but instead of going up. it goes down, the amber light
the signals charging is gone.
im sure its not the battery. coz i did get a charger, the one where u put probes on the + and - terminal of the battery, it charged. the battery is working now. however, i couldnt charge via the phone.
the red light came up before which indicates not charging so what do i do now?
someone suggested to hard reset it. i tried it but nothing. still the same. i reflashed it... nothing... now using the hyperdragon rom... still the same...
any ideas?
btw, when i plug in the charger, amber light is there... however, not for long, light turns off, but the charging / plugged into the charger symbol is there
as far as my personal experience goes, i have noticed this behavior only when the battery overheats while charging. in the hottest weather, this has NEVER happened for me. it only happens sometimes if my device screen is on WITH wifi WITH bluetooth WITH data connection WITH some heavy processing program running. this causes heating of the components and also leaves little power to charge the battery, because most of the charger's power is being redirected to power the components in use.
so, the device will charge for a few minutes and will interrupt the charging if the temperature rises. the charging will resume again when the temperature comes back down.
you can test if this is happening with your device by observing how long it charges before stopping, first without a fan and then with a fan blowing over the battery with the back cover removed.
if the charging lasts longer when the device is being cooled with a fan, then you are likely facing temperature issues.
xxxpongxxx said:
btw, when i plug in the charger, amber light is there... however, not for long, light turns off, but the charging / plugged into the charger symbol is there
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Try to clean your battery terminals and see if that can help... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358136
Also check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448467
Your same issue
solved my problem...
i was so pissed, all the solutions did not work... i decided to open it up
when i opened it, i saw that there is some dirt / corrosion on some lines
cleaned each and every one of them.
while it was open, plugged in the battery... then the charger...
after 2 minutes... battery bar went up! it is now charging!!! and
best thing... it also syncs!
Good to know that you solved your problem.
thanks so much. its ur post that really helped
lucky you , now mine cant even charge . Even charge the led indicator turn red not orange for few hours
johnkor said:
lucky you , now mine cant even charge . Even charge the led indicator turn red not orange for few hours
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u opened it up also? my main problem was. when my battery drained, the led was red... didnt turn orange even when its plugged for more than an hour already
same thing
johnkor said:
same thing
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did u try opening it already? coz mine never got wet, maybe its the moisture in the air, eventually... accumulating in there...
My battery seems to jump from 6% down to 1% and dies within a minute of that.. does anyone else have this issue? Would you try and find an excuse to get a replacement? I do have sprint insurance.
It seems like you need to clear the stored battery stats.
If I remember correctly, I don't believe it's a good idea to keep letting your battery fully die. I think that I read somewhere that this shortens it's life. I could be talking out my a** too...lol
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sslbaron said:
It seems like you need to clear the stored battery stats.
If I remember correctly, I don't believe it's a good idea to keep letting your battery fully die. I think that I read somewhere that this shortens it's life. I could be talking out my a** too...lol
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You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
Tilde88 said:
You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
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Are you trying to say that this phone has more than one lipo cell and no balance charger? I call bull****.
akrod2as said:
Are you trying to say that this phone has more than one lipo cell and no balance charger? I call bull****.
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o.0, lol you are right, it IS a lipo. hadnt known that One had a lipo battery. what other phones have this? i know all the evos have lion, never went away from the evo line so I am out of the loop on that
Tilde88 said:
o.0, lol you are right, it IS a lipo. hadnt known that One had a lipo battery. what other phones have this? i know all the evos have lion, never went away from the evo line so I am out of the loop on that
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Actually all the Evos were lipo as well.
Tilde88 said:
You are correct, you should not let your battery die 100%. Everytime you do that, you risk doing what is called an 'avalanche' and there is no coming back from that. The reason why your batter is 1% at one point, then you reboot and it's magically 6% is due to the way the cells are charged. These cells come ****ed up from the factory... Every time. You know how when you turn on your phone it is supposed to have 50% when you take it out of the box? Wellll, that's where they **** it all up lol. The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
Rather than having 6 cells charged at 50%, your phone comes with 3 at a little less than 50%, and 3 a little higher than 50%. So on one boot, cell #1 is used as the 'primary', which gives the battery stats. On reboot, another cell at random takes charge. Cell #1 only had 5%, so it showed 5%. Cell #3 had 12% so on boot it showed 12%, etc etc. The problem is, your charger just tells all the cells to charge at the same time, nothing you can do about that. BUT, there is a way to get them fully charged... And let me tell you, it sucks to do. Here is what you have to do to properly 'trickle charge' the battery.
1. Plug your phone via USB (not your charger). I recommend using a USB2.0 port, rather than 3.0 seeing as how 3.0 has more milliamps. A good way to know if its USB3.0, is to look at the port on your computer/laptop, if the inside is blue, it is 3.0
2. Let your phone charge until the light goes green.
3. After the light turns green, run zeppelinrox's Die-Hard battery calibrator, which he has in his thread here [Use script manager and run as root].
4. After the script loads up, look for the manual mode, and use the option to wipe battery stats. This will prompt for a reboot... Do not reboot.
5. Turn your phone OFF, while it is still plugged in to USB. You will now notice that the light goes orange... Dun dun dun.
6. Leave your phone OFF until the light turns green. When it turns green, power it up, WITH the USB still plugged in, never remove it.
7. On power up and boot, you will notice it has gone orange YET AGAIN [what an a-hole ]
If you don't want to use the script, get an app like Root Manager, and delete this file "/data/system/batterystats.bin", This can be done instead of steps 3-4
Continue to do these reboots and battery wipes, until ALL your cells are fully charged. You batter WILL NOT GO ORANGE after booting up and powering down when it is fully charged. This takes hours, I know. Blame all the cellphone manufacturers in the world for this. Seriously.
BUT DONT LET IT DRAIN 100% anymore. Avalanched battery sucks! It will only hold charge to a certain point like 17%, or 30% or w/e if it avalanches,
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Come on...there's no need to do this.
And there's no risk of damaging the battery at 0%. There are protection circuits that kick in far before the battery would cause catastrophic damage. That said, there's also little reason to run it down to 0%, so just charge it when you can.
The battery stats file is only to display what has been using the battery. It basically only contains the information you see on your battery stats page. It does not affect charging or interact with the charging circuits at all. The phone's hardware reports the charge level, not batterystats.bin.
Batterystats.bin is wiped every time you charge to 100%, regardless of the placebo app downloaded.
Don't let these people waste your time with their placebo silliness. Just charge the phone, and let the carefully designed charging hardware do what it was made to do, charge your phone.
If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just charge before 6%. Treat that as your new zero. Personally, I rarely get down so low, so it would be really no problem, but if it truly interferes with how you use it, absolutely return it.
Tilde88 said:
The battery consists of 6-8 cells (actually not sure about this batter, might be more... But for the sake of learning we will say 6 cells).
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Dude, it's not a cordless drill. it's a cell phone, it has one 4 volt cell.
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akrod2as said:
Actually all the Evos were lipo as well.
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Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Felnarion said:
Come on...there's no need to do this.
And there's no risk of damaging the battery at 0%. There are protection circuits that kick in far before the battery would cause catastrophic damage. That said, there's also little reason to run it down to 0%, so just charge it when you can.
The battery stats file is only to display what has been using the battery. It basically only contains the information you see on your battery stats page. It does not affect charging or interact with the charging circuits at all. The phone's hardware reports the charge level, not batterystats.bin.
Batterystats.bin is wiped every time you charge to 100%, regardless of the placebo app downloaded.
Don't let these people waste your time with their placebo silliness. Just charge the phone, and let the carefully designed charging hardware do what it was made to do, charge your phone.
If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just charge before 6%. Treat that as your new zero. Personally, I rarely get down so low, so it would be really no problem, but if it truly interferes with how you use it, absolutely return it.
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Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
hdnet1 said:
Dude, it's not a cordless drill. it's a cell phone, it has one 4 volt cell.
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Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
Tilde88 said:
Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
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You seem to have coined the term avalanche. What does it mean? Link some literature about lithium polymer avalanches? The only way I see for this to be possible, or a thing, is if you're standing in front of a pile of them and some start to fall from being piled at an excessive angle.
You've been shown to be wrong about what the battery is made of, and the fact that it consists of a single cell...So I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would trust your expertise.
My battery has no issues. I charge it over night, leave for work, come home and my battery is in the 60-70%. At the end of the night I plug it in the charger around 30 to 40%. Repeated cycle for almost 2+ weeks with no single issue.
Don't run your battery under 6%. I mean who really does that. The second my old phone would send off alarms at 10 to 15 percent I would put it on a charger.
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Screen on phone is a juice sucker. Screen off the thing barely drains.
D3rped out Beastmode! HTC ONE!
So apparently my HTC One has a lithium ion battery battery instead of li-po, are there any disadvantages to having a li-ion battery?
Tilde88 said:
Sorry, but wrong. Maybe you meant the HOX and other variants, but I know that the Evo line had Lithium Ion.
Lol, yes there is such danger as an avalanche. And the trickle charge method is proven. It is not a placebo nor is it silliness.
Not even sure how this post comes into play?
Anyway, if I helped anyone, I'm glad it helped. Anyone that disagrees, so be it. Enjoy, or ignore... I did my part and shared my knowledge. I later learned that it is a LiPo battery, but most of the text I wrote still applies. Try it, don't... w/e
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No I don't mean the HTC one x. I mean the evo 4g. It was a lithium polymer battery. It was labeled as lithium ion on the battery itself. Much like my cordless drills with lithium-ion polymer batteries say lithium ion on them. Sorry, but, you're wrong.
My phone has water damage. I currently have it in a bag of rice to hopefully bring it back to life. After a few hours I plugged it in to see if that would help, and I it had a strange activity. The LED in the phone handset was lit and green. I never rooted it to enable the LED. Any advice would be great!
PS: Sorry if this post is not the most coherent. I am currently very hungover, and having problems functioning. Also, I have no idea how my phone got wet! Happy Sunday to me!
Try a battery reset
The Dirtydee Z3
The led turns on when the battery is so low that the display can't turn on to show that its charging.
Device should turn on after sometime
Durteedee said:
Try a battery reset
The Dirtydee Z3
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How is that achieved?
yaddam205 said:
How is that achieved?
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As @adity said above, the LED turns on when your battery is too low to turn on the screen.
Charge it for some time.
adity said:
The led turns on when the battery is so low that the display can't turn on to show that its charging.
Device should turn on after sometime
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Testing that now. Thanks for the heads up!
Fingers (and toes) crossed!!
You should've let it rest on rice for like one day.
On the good side, the moto x is kind of water proof.
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*Update*
The screen is now on and showing 0% battery. It has been plugged in for hours now with no change in level. I was able to get into FastBoot, however any option I choose results in the phone rebooting back to the battery charge level screen.
Thanks for the help!
*Update 2*
I plugged my phone into my cars 2.1 amp charger and after 20min or so it showed 100% battery. The phone booted, however it did not complete and turned off. When it did It read 0% once more. I have tried volume down and power for 3 mins with no result. Any more tips?
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I pulled the back over off and held the battery ribbon down. LIFE!! Phone displayed 100% and it was running fine. However, when I removed it from power it shut off immediately.
yaddam205 said:
*Update 2*
I plugged my phone into my cars 2.1 amp charger and after 20min or so it showed 100% battery. The phone booted, however it did not complete and turned off. When it did It read 0% once more. I have tried volume down and power for 3 mins with no result. Any more tips?
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I pulled the back over off and held the battery ribbon down. LIFE!! Phone displayed 100% and it was running fine. However, when I removed it from power it shut off immediately.
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your battery is bad
Kisaraji said:
your battery is bad
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I thought so too. I let it charge over night while it was cycling the boot screen, and when I awoke it was perfect. Battery 100% and turned on without issue. I understand letting your battery hit 0% is bad, but having it completely malfunction for 24+ hrs is rather poor play on Motorola's behalf.
How do you know that it's moto's fault?
Perhaps there was still some water left in your device?
This took longer to dry and caused the malfunction...
Don't judge so quickly!
I tell you this, because I had a motorola x with the same problem, the solution was to change the battery. Solved, try another battery
Dropping phone in water and having issues after is Moto's fault....? :silly:
I'll add... Water can and usually does wreak havoc on these things. Anything can go wrong after. Usually I'd say move on. Don't waste time or money trying to fix it.
You maybe were lucky. :good: But to suggest it's Moto's fault is crazy. Lol My X has died many times and 30 seconds on the charger and it boots. Anything you experienced was from the water.... Not a defect.
yaddam205 said:
I thought so too. I let it charge over night while it was cycling the boot screen, and when I awoke it was perfect. Battery 100% and turned on without issue. I understand letting your battery hit 0% is bad, but having it completely malfunction for 24+ hrs is rather poor play on Motorola's behalf.
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You put your phone in water, then turned it on again after only trying to dry it for a VERY short time. Bit amazing it even worked, and your complaining because it worked but only after drying?
Jesus man.
Pretty sure LIthium Ion batteries don't like going down near zero. Even when your phone says zero% and the phone automatically turns off it still isn't completely discharged.
I've let my nexus 7, and game controllers sit unused for a while. When you try to use them again they need a really long charge before they will work again.
The water probably put a load across the battery and nearly completely discharged it.
I actually just went thru this. I did the old school battery calibration using NeMa's app in the play store. Says to discharge 100%.. Phew lol. I was stressed. I had the same problems as above