I have been using stock Rom rooted jellybean for sometime. But one thing really annoy me. It's that,if I use screen filter,music player and browser together at the same time. It close the screen filter and music player after sometime browsing the web. Is this about ram issue? I have tried super charge the service jar to die hard..but the launcher still reload quite often ..any idea?
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Try delet blotware via titanium backup, because it seems to RAM problem....
Im now using walkman, facebook and gmail, and also writting this post via XDA app and noone is killed.
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Mind show me the list of bloatware?I'm still not familiar with Sony software since I came from htc.. Thought I only disable it in setting..like Twitter..
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Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?
I have exactly the same problem. System kills many apps when I'm using them. And I have deleted all useless bloatware. I guess I will have to reflash stock JB... You should try the same.
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I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?
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Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.
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Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.
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Or maybe it's a problem in adj value? I dun think stock value was that high..
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Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.
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Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.
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I saw the vm heapsize in my v was 256m and heapsize limit is 64m..so the only solution is change the minfree?
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I don't know about any other solution.
Use android tweaker(paid app) or pimp my rom beta(free) to set up better multitasking
After I supercharge the rom, I use die hard launcher... Then things turn out like this
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Running:
Firmware: 2.3.4
Kernal: 2.6.35.7 hardcore speedmod 300hz
Cwm:2.5.1.0
Have encountered an excessive ram
problem even after clearing ram using task
manager, i am using autostarts aswell to
reduce but no,luck, i am at a loss, wether it
could be the galaxy running 2.3.4 i don't
know, any help would be much appreciated.
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Do you have excessive ram or the other way around (less free ram than you're expecting) ?
And more than that .. don't you think you should share some real values with us?
For example, (I'm running GB JVP 2.3.4) when I'm bootong I'm getting about 130MB of free ram and in the normal usage the free ram reported by the system is ~80-100MB.
Currently in task manager sits around 250 280 lb of ram even after killing off apps. Im at a loss, thinking of just flashing darkys
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you are fine .. this is the gingerbread behavior from what I know.
Ram is running all the time.Linux maked use of holding things in ram incase the application is used again. Anything in ram doesn't make the system slower, unless you are into precise control and into milliseconds of time-saving.
Adrian.
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Thought it might have been gingerbread, I might flash back to a 2.2 early Rom
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As I said before: Ram is there and powered up. Anything in ram does not use power because it it is used already by the ram.
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Alright but I've noticed that the more ram that's in use the slower my phone is.
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I've just fashed lite'nin 3.0 and I have no problems. 538 megs of ram is being used and the phone is not slow. I have noticed that some apps can cause a slow or stuttering phone. I have tried a lot of custom roms, Insanity, miui, stock on my sg1, cognition, darky's, stock and litenin on sgs2.
I'm keeping with litenin as I find it to be very stable, good battery and I have found no bugs.
Perhaps you could find out if an app is causing slowness? I have 271 apps and all run ok. Palmary weather caused problems so it's gone. Are you using any cpu frequency apps?
Adrian
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Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do
I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...
Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.
What are you planning to do with the free ram?
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?
Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Task manager
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Hell no!
tomsi91 said:
The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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Hi,
I have a P1000 with CM10 (Humberos and Alroger) and I'm very pleased with this ROM.
It's such a difference if compared with GB that it really looks like having a new device.
There is one problem though that I'm not sure can be fixed: the random reboots.
I've dig a bit and apparently reboots are related to the lack of memory.
Analysing the available memory indeed I noticed that it easily goes around 50-70Mb which doesn't seem to be that much and probably this is the root cause of the random reboots.
I've enabled zRAM with a compression rate of 35% but this doesn't seem to have solved the issue.
So I'm wondering why nobody else is actually talking about this issue. Is the majority of P1000+CM10 users not having this issue?
Or it's just that we can't do anything about it and therefore we have to live with this?
In no way this post wants to be a complain. I'm just asking some more information to understand this issue better.
Cheers
Fiber7
Free memory is wasted memory.
This is not Windows which actively swap memory to swap.
if memory really is running low, the memory manager will kill inactive apps, not panic and reboot.
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Hi Pryiana,
I'm not sure I got what you mean.
I'm not rebooting the system, it just does it automatically, that's the problem.
What I'm trying to understand here is why it reboots automatically.
Based on Alroger a solution to self reboots is to enable zRAM which is a kernel feature to compress data being written to memory to reduce the footprint.
Are you currently on a CM10 ROM?
Fiber7
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I am on aokp jb using humberos kernel (forgot which date)
My point is :
the system reboots you are seeing, it is not because the ROM isn't providing enough free ram. It is something else. Maybe even because the memory manager isn't doing the right thing.
Maybe true that your attempt to free up more ram improves it, but it may just help to avoid hitting the real bug.
Anyway, I am not a dev.
Just a system guy.
I just want to say free ram is wasted ram.
In Linux systems, the kernel grabs as much ram as it can. Not free them.
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OK, I see what you mean.
BTW, I can see from the cm10 thread that other people are having the same issue with the device restarting after a while.
Apparently 512MB are just not enough for Jelly Bean.
Fiber7
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Err... Not true..
I am using AOKP JB for SGT7 by stimpz0r and no reboots for me.
Maybe cm10 not ready yet
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Could anyone recommend a good task killer, to free ram etc. That works well with s3 mini.
Im not rooted and dont want to be. Sp removing bloatware is a no. Ty
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Could anyone recommend a good task killer, to free ram etc. That works well with s3 mini.
Im not rooted and dont want to be. Sp removing bloatware is a no. Ty
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hold down home button select the icon that looks like a pie chart
go to RAM tab
click clear
ykdr-scott said:
Could anyone recommend a good task killer, to free ram etc. That works well with s3 mini.
Im not rooted and dont want to be. Sp removing bloatware is a no. Ty
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Task killers are unecessary imo, it actually drains more battery if you constantly kill apps in the background because the app justs starts back if it is set to run in the background
also android automatically kills apps when there is not enough ram to run specific apps
Why is my phone using too much ram? (pls see attachment) im using existenz rom v1.1.5. I dont know but its always like that, sometimes free ram gets so low it reaches 180mb. Please help. Thanks
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Why is my phone using too much ram? (pls see attachment) im using existenz rom v1.1.5. I dont know but its always like that, sometimes free ram gets so low it reaches 180mb. Please help. Thanks
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make sure u on the nut hotfix..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483034
I had that problem tooo... On stock rom i had 400+- free, on existenz was always 200 and lower... Now i on miui amd had 400+-, so i think thats existenz rom problem...
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It is not bad that the RAM is in use. RAM stands for Random Access Memory and can and will be used for the system and used apps. eXistenZe is pretty bloatware free but you can remove extra apps when you want to (see link above).
RAM management of Sony is pretty agressive so you have to play a bit to see what works for you
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It is not bad that the RAM is in use. RAM stands for Random Access Memory and can and will be used for the system and used apps. eXistenZe is pretty bloatware free but you can remove extra apps when you want to (see link above).
RAM management of Sony is pretty agressive so you have to play a bit to see what works for you
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sometimes i feel like ram isnt enough especially when playing games. when i exit the game, icons begin to reload which is an indication of low ram i think?
You could try to clear some RAM with apps like Fast Reboot or any Taskmanager. However constantly clearing RAM is not good and will Cache data.. If you want to play a Game reboot your device. All the apps are closed and only the system and start-with-boot apps are started. This results in a minimum RAM usage
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sometimes i feel like ram isnt enough especially when playing games. when i exit the game, icons begin to reload which is an indication of low ram i think?
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The reload is not always indications of low ram, but its just reload the launcher, in many roms launcher is locked on the ram, so when you exit its dont have a reload time.
its doesn't matter if you have less free ram in your device, if you still feel good and smooth when used it.
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The reload is not always indications of low ram, but its just reload the launcher, in many roms launcher is locked on the ram, so when you exit its dont have a reload time.
its doesn't matter if you have less free ram in your device, if you still feel good and smooth when used it.
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Thanks. I thought the reload was due ro low ram, since they are reloading from the storage.
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Why is my phone using too much ram? (pls see attachment) im using existenz rom v1.1.5. I dont know but its always like that, sometimes free ram gets so low it reaches 180mb. Please help. Thanks
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try not to use the FB app. It really is a RAM eater.
It's better to have less free RAM in Linux.
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try not to use the FB app. It really is a RAM eater.
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yeah and i cant greenify it
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yeah and i cant greenify it
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delete fb in system then download from store... or use romtool box make it as user app... or use the donate ver
danielhariri said:
delete fb in system then download from store... or use romtool box make it as user app... or use the donate ver
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why did i not think of this..
danielhariri said:
delete fb in system then download from store... or use romtool box make it as user app... or use the donate ver
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Dude, I tried your suggestion. However, Facebook just disappears from the greenify app. Y is that?
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why did i not think of this..
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If you have titanium backup, you can also try the hard way which is creating a widget for disabling/enabling/launching Facebook application. So when you click the widget it unfreezes the app and launch it. When you are finish you click on the widget again and it will this time disable the app totally from your system. It takes like 1 more second to launch the app but if you don't use it a lot it's worth it !
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Dude, I tried your suggestion. However, Facebook just disappears from the greenify app. Y is that?
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Did u see the magnifier icon upperleft? Press it than click fb apps... then notification of greenify should pop up
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Did u see the magnifier icon upperleft? Press it than click fb apps... then notification of greenify should pop up
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Yes im doing this but after some time Facebook disappears from the list of hibernated apps.
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Yes im doing this but after some time Facebook disappears from the list of hibernated apps.
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eh? never had that... greenify app got probs~~ i think