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Excessive ram

Running:
Firmware: 2.3.4
Kernal: 2.6.35.7 hardcore speedmod 300hz
Cwm:2.5.1.0
Have encountered an excessive ram
problem even after clearing ram using task
manager, i am using autostarts aswell to
reduce but no,luck, i am at a loss, wether it
could be the galaxy running 2.3.4 i don't
know, any help would be much appreciated.
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Do you have excessive ram or the other way around (less free ram than you're expecting) ?
And more than that .. don't you think you should share some real values with us?
For example, (I'm running GB JVP 2.3.4) when I'm bootong I'm getting about 130MB of free ram and in the normal usage the free ram reported by the system is ~80-100MB.

Currently in task manager sits around 250 280 lb of ram even after killing off apps. Im at a loss, thinking of just flashing darkys
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you are fine .. this is the gingerbread behavior from what I know.

Ram is running all the time.Linux maked use of holding things in ram incase the application is used again. Anything in ram doesn't make the system slower, unless you are into precise control and into milliseconds of time-saving.
Adrian.
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Thought it might have been gingerbread, I might flash back to a 2.2 early Rom
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As I said before: Ram is there and powered up. Anything in ram does not use power because it it is used already by the ram.
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Alright but I've noticed that the more ram that's in use the slower my phone is.
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I've just fashed lite'nin 3.0 and I have no problems. 538 megs of ram is being used and the phone is not slow. I have noticed that some apps can cause a slow or stuttering phone. I have tried a lot of custom roms, Insanity, miui, stock on my sg1, cognition, darky's, stock and litenin on sgs2.
I'm keeping with litenin as I find it to be very stable, good battery and I have found no bugs.
Perhaps you could find out if an app is causing slowness? I have 271 apps and all run ok. Palmary weather caused problems so it's gone. Are you using any cpu frequency apps?
Adrian
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How to have more free ram ??

Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do

I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.

You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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xExabyte said:
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?

complete123 said:
thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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googgiggs said:
No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...

Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.

What are you planning to do with the free ram?

Sell it on Ebay! :good:

tonyp said:
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?

Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough

Subhannn said:
Task manager
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Hell no!
tomsi91 said:
The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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Can it take anymore ?

Developer community, hi, I had the S1 for about 2 years and still do, its very good phone yo know , however, what ever I do its too slow! I'm running Android 4.2.2 with over clocked CPU and 400+ of RAM, and sometimes when I leave a small app to main, it take sometime to load the launcher,so what's wrong? Was Google right when it stopped the Nexus S updates at 4.1.2 because it can take any farther? Does project better even exist? The fastest ROM I had ever install was ICS RC2 which worked perfectly (I could run MC3 at background then leave and do some thing else, then want back and its where I have lift it) but I had datadata problem and I had to try something els. Know a days ,some new flagships had less specification than S1 and work smother!, in short words: can I make my phone faster ?
All thanks and appreciates to whom worked to develop this great phone.
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Flagship with less specification than s1?
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Yup, Some LG and Sami phones came with the same or less specifications
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Well, the more recent phones that come out right now for the low-end market are running alot newer chips than the S1 has. In my opinion, you shouldn't go to far with flashing newer versions of Android. But on the other hand, everyone wants to be on the most recent version of Android. Google had a reason for not pushing 4.2 to the Nexus S. Other manufacturers don't bring out updates for newer phones (for no reason), but Google had a good reason, because the Nexus S' hardware is outdated.

Unfortunately i doubt you can get your smoothest experience in 4.2.2.
If you want pure smoothness you should try a custom 2.3.7 as that would be ideal although i reckon 4.0.4(cm9 base) would do quite a decent job as well.
You have to try out different ROMs and see what best fits your needs.

Is a way that i use it and is good and smooth
But if expect like sg3 no it's not exactly like that but it's close. And don't disturb u
Cause our hardware's are a part of history
I installed 1.2gb apk and work smooth mostly software not game
First;
Buy a sd card high class 10
Format internal storage
Install cm latest version 4.2.2 with Odin
Install kernel like fishear
And set it up
Install cyanDelta
Install auto memory killer and set in optimum value
Install Roehsoft apk and make virtual memory on your external SD
Also never install any luncher cause it's own luncher is very light
and enjoy it
is good for daily works And smooth
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Of course 4.2.2 isn't going to be perfect. Pushing Project Butter onto our phone was a feat in itself. The smoothest 4.2.2 I've tried is Slim Bean, which really is pretty amazing. But don't be surprised about the fact that the phone can't handle Jelly Bean as well as it should. Its 3rd year anniversary is approaching fast.
Its still a wonder our single-core can handle it fine.
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Hei man I dont know what roms are you using but try thinkingridge stable by aways and the c-rom mix 18...everything is stable at 55 frames per second in the ui...and ofcourse your phone will slowdown if you put a lot of stuff in it...its normal...you cannot pretend that is going to be fast as when you fresh install the rom..my girlfriend's iphone 4 is stock,no mods but still it lags a lot more than my VERY OLD I9000 ...
By the way anyone can give me some advices on a gingerbread rom?a kickass one? I saw a couple of releases in this days...they should be good considering that the developers had plenty of time to improve stability and performances...
Thanks

Speed depends on the kernel/rom your using and the way your using it. My suggestion is GamerzRom and use the greenify app. Try it and you ll see. Ive never had a faster rom!
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whatever you decide to do dont use task managers...they just mess with the android sistem and android knows better than you when and how to kill a process...

True i found out that task managers dont really work well
Greenify works the best and alot of people use it
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Hey there,
I HAD the same problem. The 2/3 changes I made was
1.UNDERClock to 800mhz (less stress on phone and less lag
2. Use Nova launcher as default
3. I am running slim bean latest and its fantasiltic
My phone has never run better
Stay away from themes though.
FYI I am a massive app hoarder so you may have a hundred apps on your phone and blame it on that but probability 9/10 isn't.
Hope I helped
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Lag gone crazy

I got a replacement SGS and I can't remember that my first was this laggy.it is almost imposable to use.
I have flashed CM10.1 and back to stock 2.3.6 I9000XWJW1. But both are laggy
I did a factory reset en cleared all the cash. is there something else I should do?
Strange things are happening with this phone. If i click the dailer ot takes about a second or two to open en sometimes just closes. Well that seems to happen alot. apps open then closes at random.
When i need to answer the phone it is hard to get the swipe to move. strange
Anyone have an idea what I can try to get this think usable?
It some times feel fast end then it stoppes dead.

flash some lagfix kernel for gb. although i already forgot which thread provides it, try to search lagfix for i9000

Hows your ram? How much do you have free ram? Sounds to me like some apps are taking uo all your ram
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RAm
You have to have min 50RAM
darkknigh_t said:
Hows your ram? How much do you have free ram? Sounds to me like some apps are taking uo all your ram
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My suggestion is try flashing gamerzrom its fast doesnt drain battery and youl have always 100+ mb of free ram and use greenify.
Its the fastest rom alive
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What happen to my phone? Apps that I'm using kill automaticly

I have been using stock Rom rooted jellybean for sometime. But one thing really annoy me. It's that,if I use screen filter,music player and browser together at the same time. It close the screen filter and music player after sometime browsing the web. Is this about ram issue? I have tried super charge the service jar to die hard..but the launcher still reload quite often ..any idea?
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Try delet blotware via titanium backup, because it seems to RAM problem....
Im now using walkman, facebook and gmail, and also writting this post via XDA app and noone is killed.
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Mind show me the list of bloatware?I'm still not familiar with Sony software since I came from htc.. Thought I only disable it in setting..like Twitter..
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Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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mmm273 said:
Do you have root? Or better unlocked BL? Then you can install CWM and any.rom (there are many stockbased too with delered Blotware)
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I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?

I have exactly the same problem. System kills many apps when I'm using them. And I have deleted all useless bloatware. I guess I will have to reflash stock JB... You should try the same.

Steven How said:
I already stated that i have root....bl unlocked too.. I prefer stock...as it's the most stable of all..but not sure which bloatware to delete.. Is this cause by minfree values?
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Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.

peetr_ said:
Yes, it's caused by lmk minfree values.
It looks like the pure stock fw is not so stable.
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Or maybe it's a problem in adj value? I dun think stock value was that high..
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Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.

peetr_ said:
Both. Adj tells to lmk what kind of apps to kill and minfree tells when to kill. With our phone (800MB available), we are always out of memory. Settings/apps/running value is a joke. It only tells how much memory is available if you kill apps that can theoretically be killed.
Most of user apps are using adj around 8-12. With lmk values in stock fw, these are killed very often.
This is what I found. But this memory thing is much more complicated (heap size, overcommiting, garbage collector, and who knows what else).
And I think, when the memory is divided into 3 blocks like we have, it also cannot be good.
Because of that all, Z already has 2GB.
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I saw the vm heapsize in my v was 256m and heapsize limit is 64m..so the only solution is change the minfree?
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I don't know about any other solution.

Use android tweaker(paid app) or pimp my rom beta(free) to set up better multitasking

After I supercharge the rom, I use die hard launcher... Then things turn out like this
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