Comparison between the original Nexus S 1500 mAh battery and the 1440 mAh Samsung battery​
General settings:
- brightness set to maximum (100%)
- screen timeout set to maximum (30 mins)
- GPS ON / wireless networks ON (for Google Maps)
- Mobile Data ON
- 3G ON
- Sync ON (Contacts, GMail, Calendar, Reader + SiMi weather each 3 hours)
- WI-FI OFF
- Bluetooth OFF
Services running under the test (I'm not sure these DO have an impact on battery life, but just to be on the safe-side):
- SiMiClock
- 3G Watchdog
- other Android-specific services
Services cached under the test (again, i'm not really sure these count, but I wrote them down in case someone finds something weird or has questions):
- Android Agenda Widget
- Google Reader
- GTasks
- LED Light
- Brightness Level
- other essential Android-specific services
Testing conditions:
- Nexus S i9020-T version, 2.3.4 stock ROM, unlocked bootloader, stock recovery, stock kernel.
- each of the 2 batteries was plugged into the phone, charged till the phone said "Charging complete" (that meant 96% in each case), then discharged till 0%, until the phone shut down by itself.
- keep the screen ON at all times; yes, that means check every 30 mins (because of the screen timeout) and slide a finger across the screen to re-activate the 30 mins timeout timer AGAIN (and again... and again, etc. etc., every 30 mins).
- signal strength 11 asu (+/- 2 asu); check this in Status under About Phone.
- in each test, the phone was placed in the exact same place, it was not moved.
- sync was enabled, but I get emails like one per week, so the sync activity was very low (only Google Reader sync every hour).
- no activity on the phone whatsoever (phone calls in/out, sms in/out).
Battery performance comparison:
1500 mAh battery (top at 96%) = 2h 44mins (the original Nexus S battery)
1440 mAh battery (top at 96%) = 2h 26mins (the OEM Samsung 1440 mAh battery)
In each of the 2 tests, the battery % usage was:
- Display - 78%
- GPS - 14%
- gpsd - 5% (I never saw this thing until now; WTF is it ?!)
- Android System - 3%
Verdict:
Well, the OEM Samsung 1440 mAh battery didn't add up to the performance of the original 1500 mAh Nexus S battery, as I hoped, but it packed quite a punch. The difference between the 2 isn't all that bad in real life situation, but the ~20 mins difference out of a total of 3 hours could scare some people away. Anyway, if you compare it to other <1600 mAh 3rd party batteries out there, I think you will get better results with this one. And, furthermore, it's the cheapest one (I think) at only 5$. How can you ask for more when it's THAT cheap, and made by Samsung ?
In the end, I have to say that for 5$, this OEM Samsung 1440 mAh battery is quite a bang for the buck !
PS: I forgot to tell you where you could ACTUALLY buy one of these if you so desire. Just do a search on eBay for the original Nexus S battery MODEL NUMBER. (AB653850CA)
Additional INFO:
1. The test is a derivate from Ploone's comparison test from his topic over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058763 Thanks a lot man for the idea and for your video reviews !
2. I hope I was thorough enough. If some of you have questions, please, do ask, because maybe I have forgot something important.
3. Also, if you don't mind and have some spare time for this, could you please conduct the SAME test as I did to see some more results ? Because I still have the impression that my original 1500 mAh battery sucks. Thanks !
*Side-Note:
Ploone's review of the 1600 mAh Mugen Power battery indicated the following results:
3h 25 mins = 205 mins - 1600 mAh Mugen Power battery
4h 32 mins = 272 mins - 1500 mAh Nexus S battery
That's a ~1.327 ratio for the Nexus S battery.
From my comparison (yea, I know there are many variables changed in the testing methodology, but the ratio should stick with the batteries, despite the testing conditions):
2h 26 mins = 146 mins - 1440 mAh OEM Samsung battery
2h 44 mins = 164 mins - 1500 mAh Nexus S battery
That's a ~1.123 ratio for the Nexus S battery.
A greater ratio for the Nexus S battery means that it is more powerful than the opponent. So, because the ratio is smaller in the 1440 mAh Samsung comparison test than the ratio from Ploone's test, that should translate in the fact that the 1440 mAh battery is more powerful than the 1600 mAh battery. It's also 10 times cheaper (50$ vs 5$, aprox.), LOL ! (I'm not judging you, Ploone; I'm only judging that Mugen battery)
Nice review sir, thanks for mentioning me! Appreciated
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As for the charging test, I tested the charge time for both batteries, from 0% until the phone said "Charging complete" (top at 96%); the results didn't vary too much (10mins difference), so I continued the test on the original battery:
1500 mAh battery - Nexus S 700 mA wall charger = 3h 30mins
1500 mAh battery - Nexus S 500 mA USB data cable = 5h 30mins
1500 mAh battery - after-market 1.000 mA wall charger = 3h 30mins
1440 mAh battery - after-market 1.000 mA wall charger = 3h 20mins (-10 mins compared to the 1500mAh) :
60% in 1h 30 mins
70% in 1h 50 mins
80% in 2h 15 mins
96% in 3h 20 mins
Also, I have to add that the 1.000 mA 3rd party wall charger acts like the original 700mA charger. Guess the charging algorithms prevent the Nexus from drawing more than 700 mA (as the original charger can supply). Or something like that. If someone has a better explanation, I'd love to hear it, I'm really curious.
thanks for the review! I wonder if any of the 1650mah batteries found in the new Samsung phones like Droid Charge, Samsung Infusion would fit inside nexus s. Now that would be an upgrade.
Thanks a lot lambda30, I was waiting for this review. I guess I will order one!
You're all welcome !
I think I'm gonna order another one in a month or two, just to have a spare one. At 5 bucks, it's totally worth it. And I'm gonna kill that sucker all day long, instead of being scared that my battery will die on me, like I used to do up until now.
Until now, I just had the brightness at around 20%, Gtalk offline most of the time, Google Reader syncing manual. Now I'm on 75% brightness all the time, everything syncing + Gtalk online all day/night long, no GPS usage, Wi-fi OFF, 3G data on all the time. On the 1440 mAh, it stays up for around 18h with about 2h 30 mins screen on time.
I just finish charging to 96% before going to bed, loose about 10% until morning, and after the day, at about 19:00, I will still have about 10-20% remaining. It's pretty decent.
lambda30 said:
You're all welcome !
Now I'm on 75% brightness all the time, everything syncing + Gtalk online all day/night long, no GPS usage, Wi-fi OFF, 3G data on all the time. On the 1440 mAh, it stays up for around 18h with about 2h 30 mins screen on time.
I just finish charging to 96% before going to bed, loose about 10% until morning, and after the day, at about 19:00, I will still have about 10-20% remaining. It's pretty decent.
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So are you really getting 18hrs with 75% brightness and 2:30hrs of screentime? I have the original 1500mah battery but I hardly get 10hrs with 40% brightness and 2:30hrs of screen time.(nothing else major). Am I doing something wrong ?
thanks for ur review!!! i m gonna order a couple =DDD
Aras87 said:
So are you really getting 18hrs with 75% brightness and 2:30hrs of screentime? I have the original 1500mah battery but I hardly get 10hrs with 40% brightness and 2:30hrs of screen time.(nothing else major). Am I doing something wrong ?
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Why would I lie?
If you don't trust me, do the exact same battery power test from my first post, then compare the results and share them with us. I'm pretty curious.
@ lambda30
Thanks for your research. I know what spare batteries to get now.
I bought two of those 1440 mah batteries from ebay, one for me and one for a friend. I actually received one 1440 mah battery and one 1500 mah battery (says the label). Needless to say, i kept the 1500 mah one and gave him the 1440 mah one (my price for placing the order, haha). I have to say though it performs just as well as the stock battery. While i haven't performed tests or anything, It's impossible to tell the batteries apart performance wise for everyday usage.
For those that don't want to gamble on getting a junk battery or waiting for delivery. Read Amazon reviews for quite a few unhappy customers. Radio Shack has replacement 1440 mAh for $19.99 with 1 year warranty.
http://radioshack.lenmar.com/RS/PS.aspx?OEM=Samsung&CatID=1&Model=AB653850CA&DID=RS
Wiley_11 said:
For those that don't want to gamble on getting a junk battery or waiting for delivery. Read Amazon reviews for quite a few unhappy customers. Radio Shack has replacement 1440 mAh for $19.99 with 1 year warranty.
http://radioshack.lenmar.com/RS/PS.aspx?OEM=Samsung&CatID=1&Model=AB653850CA&DID=RS
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Neah, it doesn't happen like that with this one. I've seen the reviews for this item on eBay. Furthermore, with 19.99$ you can get 3 of these and surely, even if 1 out of 3 is broken, you still have the other 2. So again, you just CAN'T go wrong with this purchase.
Furthermore again, I don't trust 3rd party batteries at all. See the 1600 mAh Mugen example from my first post, the one that Ploone reviewed.
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Neah, it doesn't happen like that with this one. I've seen the reviews for this item on eBay. Furthermore, with 19.99$ you can get 3 of these and surely, even if 1 out of 3 is broken, you still have the other 2. So again, you just CAN'T go wrong with this purchase.
Furthermore again, I don't trust 3rd party batteries at all. See the 1600 mAh Mugen example from my first post, the one that Ploone reviewed.
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Personally I'm going with the cheap OEM. I posted your thread on AndroidCentral and some people sniveled about used/old batteries.
Lithium batteries don't get to full capacity until 4 or 5 charge cycles so that might have had an impact on Ploones review. At PreCentral somline did some extensive tests on batteries and Mugen did pretty well. Here's a link to one that didn't do so well.
http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...ttention-dont-buy-seidio-innocell-1350-a.html
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Lithium batteries don't get to full capacity until 4 or 5 charge cycles so that might have had an impact on Ploones review.
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Maybe. I'll contact Ploone to see what's up.
From his thread:
Ploone said:
Yes I did, the batteries came with instructions on how to condition and cycle them, so I did so 4 times (the amount they recommended)
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So that's not the case/problem.
@lambda thanks for your review.
Would you mind telling us the name of the eBay seller so we can get the same ones and avoid knockoffs?
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I've ordered several 1440 mah batteries from ebay and I can't really tell the difference from the the 1500...
Sent from my NS running NSCollab cuz I lost my tin cans and string....
Ebay
I have an ebay one being shipped out to me now. I will report back seller info if the battery turns out to be good / similar to stock.
Babydoll25 said:
I've ordered several 1440 mah batteries from ebay and I can't really tell the difference from the the 1500...
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Well this (and other reviews/comments) concludes my research. So I'm not just advertising the product/seller.
Personally, I bought it from "accessorymallonline". But, because it comes in a sealed bag, it doesn't really matter from which buyer you get it.
Hi,
I am recently facing a heavy battery drain issue with my Galaxy S. The battery drained fully even in stand-by, within 10-12 hours.
So, I now replaced with a new battery(the battery was already 2 years old).
But, with this new battery too, it gets only around 20 hours of light use(3G, Music, Video drains the battery a lot). Also, the battery never shows fully charged unless it charges for a full night. though it reaches 100% around 3 hours, but still drains within evening.
I got my motherboard replaced recently, facing a network issue and was using the old battery for the first 2 weeks before replacing it with new one(1650 mAH).
So, my question is, whether the problem is related to my battery or is it with my motherboard?
Can anybody help me in this??
Are you using a custom Rom
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was using, now reverted back to stock rom... still d same, barely lasts half a day.. with nearly no usage....
Also, the Battery monitor widget says the capacity is 1500mAH, but this is a 1650 mAH battery, the voltage level seems to be ok
Gowtham34 said:
was using, now reverted back to stock rom... still d same, barely lasts half a day.. with nearly no usage....
Also, the Battery monitor widget says the capacity is 1500mAH, but this is a 1650 mAH battery, the voltage level seems to be ok
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I know this is going to sound strange, but is there any specific app you are using when this happens, the reason I ask a friend uses facebook and it drains his battery from a high percent down to 0 and shuts off the phone in less than a minute.
hey everybody
hope that you are all okay
i just ordered an extended battery with the capacity of 5000 mAh
here is its link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-5000mAh...axy-Note-GT-N7000-Cover-Charger-/330750349616
and that was 4 days ago.
the problem is, the battery drains so fast
for example, when the phone is idle, it may use up to 12% in about 7 hours
and if i'm surfing the internet using mobile data (3g)
it may not even remains 2 hours of continuous usage
it also doesn't stay much with display on> about 3.5 hours only
while my friend who ordered with me the same battery
its battery remains much longer than me
could it be the rom i'm using or something else?
i'm on [ROM] Sweet ROM V11 LTA 4.1.2 [October 25th]
Use battery stats plus, free from gplay, to check what drain it and estimated time. Even the ori 2500 battery does better than that.
Sent from my phone.
I'd suggest that you return to stock ROM and make tests to see whether the problem is in the ROM or the battery itself.
After one year use I am now at 3,601 mAh
What's everyone else at?
Although I use Accubattery app
I don't think its estimate of battery health or capacity is particularly accurate.
The app states that it estimates capacity.
It estimates mine as approximately 3600 mAh
Bought Aug 2018
Manufactured 21 Aug 2018
never trust the battery apps for how much % i have on my battery , apple have that but thats way out my x says 93% but still gives me the same screen on time as when i bought it , by unplugging the battery and plugging it back in the iphone now says 100% , with my note 9 i still get over 8 hours screen on time , all these apps on batteries do is count the full battery cycles and deducts the % over time , the best way to check any battery is by your screen on time , if its good then theres nothing to worry about
What did it show from the start? When I first got my phone, it calculated that my capacity was around 3400 mah. I actually managed to change the battery on the warranty and now it says estimated 3800 mah. An improvement, but not really what I was expecting...
3782 here.