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Warranty Advice please!

Hello Guys and Girls,
I recently sent my X1 back to SE for repair as the screen was glitching whilst in active calls (something I couldn't fix through repeated flashing from SE's update service).
I gave the call centre a ring and they advised me to send the unit to my nearest service centre, which I did. At the start of the week, I received an email from the service centre which read "Notification that unit is unrepairable" as the subject and the first thought that popped in to my head was new handset.. Lovely! Reading the email, I found the engineer had concluded that my unit was "Un-Repairable under the Warranty of the Manufacturer" and I was gob smacked, that was definitely not the response I was expecting.
So I gave the call centre a ring for an explanation of the reason and the lady pointed out that the engineer had found cracks in the resin. Now, this is not the case resin that most have complained about but the resin used to cover the main board's components. Yeah I've dropped the phone a few times but no more than most and it's usually in a sleeve when it does fall, so consumer damage seems like a poor excuse! So I asked the lady to escalate my problem because I don't believe that it was caused by me.
I received a letter from SE (sent recorded, signed for!) simply re-iterating what the lady on the phone had said to me and that "Unfortunately we are unable to comment as to how any form of damage has occurred we can only comment on the findings upon completion of the investigation". The best she could offer me was "a gesture of goodwill" by sending my unrepaired handset back free of charge (otherwise 11.75GBP).
I don't really care if they repair or replace, I just want my X1 back in a working condition. What can I do to make that happen? Any hints or tips I can take on board before I respond?
P.S: I’m having to use a Nokia 2330 until this is resolved!
Regards,
- DiLLio

Hi,
first of all: I'm sorry to hear that your xperia x1 is not working properly anymore. All I can say is that its gonna be a tough fight since...
DiLLio said:
Yeah I've dropped the phone a few times but no more than most and it's usually in a sleeve when it does fall
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what else is there to say? Reading your post in my eyes you could have caused the damage and here it really is goodwill you have to count on. And obviously it's too expensive for them to repair under warranty...so they will do everything to blame the damage on you...In my opinion you could only ask what they want for the reparation.
Good Luck!

Uhm, dude, you dropped the phone... That's pretty much there is to it. Dropping a phone, will break it over time. Stop being clumbsy, in the year and a half, I've dropped my X1 once, and that was bc it fell out of my coat pocket - luckily it was in a leather pouch.
Your only option is really to try and convince SE that the resin cracks are stress cracks from normal wear and tear, but that's going to be pretty much impossible to do if you told them you dropped it, or if your casing is all messed up from drop marks.

Thanks for the replies. I stand by the fact that it wasnt because of its time with the floor.
After receiving my phone back from K+N, I've had an engineer open it so that I can see and snap some pictures of the main board and satisty myself that it is infact what they say.
And would you believe it, not a mark on the main board. Nothing.
Gave a SE a call again and argued my point. Apparantly I won't be able to photograph these cracks. Why? Because they aren't visible to cameras. Haha! Okay, so what are they visbile to?!
"Resin which portects the components" would be the top coating/layer and, atleast, indeed be visible to the naked eye. They used a clear resin to coat the main board which would explain why a WORKING main board would show no signs; however, a stressed clear resin would turn opaque and they claim cracks in the resin would definately be visible. We saw nothing!
I've attached the photos and I'd love some insight into what we've missed.

Well now you've definatley voided your warranty if you took it apart...
They wouldnt try and fake anything - i've sent my Xpera to K and N about 3 times now and every time they've got it back to me within a week - First time was cracks - second was keyboard and third was camera. I'm sure these people know what they are talking about - all you can do now is make do.

comeradealexi said:
Well now you've definatley voided your warranty if you took it apart...
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I had my local phone repair shop do it for me, cost me 10GBP just for that!
comeradealexi said:
They wouldnt try and fake anything
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I agree, that would be highly illegal and immoral, but I dont believe that every one of their engineers is adequately capable of fault finding correctly. In my case, I got one who cant tell left from right. Can you see these cracks that they claim, or anything off on the main board for that matter?

I have exactly the same problem. Only difference is mine has never been dropped. The woman in the call centre said she would escalate it. Let's wait and see.

Well they clearly hadn't even bothered to open mine up so I hope they do that for you. If your casing is showing signs of cracking, theres a lengthy thread on here complaining about the build quality of the outer case.
The original issue I was having disappeared after I had the unit independently inspected so I solved the problem without SE Nice to know that they actually check the devices before they make their decisions though(!)
If you're having the same issue, I can only assume some sort of undue pressure is being put on a connection/component and causing the distortion on the screen. Else, it really is a more costly fault!

For cases like this I have a legal insurance (lawyers, expert's testimonies...). Not that I actually had to resort to it, but in case I'd have to... heh. But newer admit you had dropped your phone, no, no, you always kept it in a secured leather box barely using it at all

DiLLio said:
Well they clearly hadn't even bothered to open mine up so I hope they do that for you. If your casing is showing signs of cracking, theres a lengthy thread on here complaining about the build quality of the outer case.
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This is a different issue. It's not the case thats cracked it the resin thats cracked.

Nobody got any advice?

Hi i have just had a letter back from K & N saying my Sony W995 was not repairable under manufacturers warrenty, due to the engineer finding cracks in the resin. Is this a standard excuse as i have never dropped my phone and the reason for returning it to Sony was the Number 3 on the keypad was not working.
I have spoken to a girl on the phone and she says she will escilated the problem and has gave me a reference number lets see what happens.

As I expected i got a letter back from sony saying they stand by their decision that the warrenty did not cover the repair of my phone as crack were found in the resin and as a gesture of goodwill they would return my phone unrepaired free of charge.

Glass cracking by itself

I have gathered up reports of the glass cracking by itself, and have come up with 6 reports already. Very concerning considering the availability of the phone. If you have a similar problem happening to you, please do post here, and if possible, please fill out this survey.
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Currently at 10 reports.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55904325&postcount=7
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861318&postcount=14 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861158&postcount=34
3/4. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...cked-shattered-on-it-s-own/m-p/844031#U844031 (2 posts in this)
5/6. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849 (2 posts in this)
7. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849
8. http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2iv7sq/z3c_back_glass_cracked_eta_on_replacement_parts/
9. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/846827/highlight/true#M525
10. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/849689/highlight/true#M636

Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far, I would guess more but lets be very conservative. 6 "cracking by itself" in 1000 phones = .6% chance
I think we should post on this over and over since it is such a huge chance of happening.

Two of those are also the same person.

The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.

maven1975 said:
The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Mine is solid too. No flex or distortion at all. And I would say 0.6% is a bit high. Their total sales are probably greater than 1000 by now. Probably closer to 1500 so that's more like .03 - .04%

But not all the 1500 user complain on XDA or the web...

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.

Pocketability, to me, has never meant you can put a glass phone in your rear pocket.

maven1975 said:
Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...

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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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I'm not concerned about pick pockets. If they want my phone, the could take it from my hands just as easily. So, I guess we are not to put our wallets in our rear pocket either?
I don't sit on it for long periods of time. More time than not, it is out of my pocket while seated. The issue I have is with these excuses for manufactures. I'm not starting a lawsuit or demanding a refund. I'm simply just annoyed by the arrogance displayed. Pointing the finger at consumers for using said devices the way they have been used for years.
I can see the phablet argument. Those devices should not be on your pockets. (brief periods of time) But seriously, a compact phone that risks damage by pocket? That's hardly looking at the real audience your catering too.

Its not damage by pocket. Its damage by weight and force.
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My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:

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Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far
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Then they'd better shut down their smartphone department considering Apple sold 10 million units on the first weekend and the Z3C got really good previews :cyclops:

Please stop this discussion on back pockets, whether or not that pocket is suitable for phones is not for discussion here. All the reports I posted said front pockets, and that is concerning.

JorgV said:
My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?

I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.

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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
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No, I'm quite sure it wasn't. As far as I know it was idle, just being stand-by .

"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.

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"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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Yeah, until someone is watching at the exact moment their phone spontaneously cracks, I'm not believing it. The way some people talk about the Z3C is like if you breathe on it too hard it will shatter instantaneously. My wife dropped her's from chest height onto hardwood floor with no case, screen protector, nothing. Not a scratch. Yet other people, drop it from a foot up, or having it leaning an it just tips over, and breaks... seems odd. Not calling these people liars, just that there must be more to it than that. Probably something along the lines of what bilboa1 said.

anyone experience popping noise when pressing note 9 screen?

Hey!
Got a Note 9 last week and day after receiving it i noticed when holding the note 9 and pressing on screen in certain areas (near sides/corners/centre) it would make a popping noise, sounds like adhesive behind the screen not adhering properly or something like that. I got Samsung to replace with a brand new one and same thing with this one, it happens whether phone is on or off, it's definitely not rite as you can hear it very clearly, feels like some flex going on in screen when it happens as i can feel the screen kind of dip slightly when it makes the noise, but ok when it does not make the noise.
Curious to see if anyone else have had the same issue? gutted as loved it for the short while i had it but sending second one back now for refund as worried something will happen with screen further down the road and Samsung may not cover it. I know of at least 3 others who had this issue when buying same time as me.
Cheers.

Do you have a tempered glass installed?
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Do you have a tempered glass installed?
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sorry should have said, no tempered glass or any screen protector applied.

have no problem with that.
only have that popping sound when using tempered glass before. changed to plastic screen protector and no sound anymore

ah ok thanks for replying, must have just been very unlucky. Cheers.

MatTechGuy said:
Hey!
Got a Note 9 last week and day after receiving it i noticed when holding the note 9 and pressing on screen in certain areas (near sides/corners/centre) it would make a popping noise, sounds like adhesive behind the screen not adhering properly or something like that. I got Samsung to replace with a brand new one and same thing with this one, it happens whether phone is on or off, it's definitely not rite as you can hear it very clearly, feels like some flex going on in screen when it happens as i can feel the screen kind of dip slightly when it makes the noise, but ok when it does not make the noise.
Curious to see if anyone else have had the same issue? gutted as loved it for the short while i had it but sending second one back now for refund as worried something will happen with screen further down the road and Samsung may not cover it. I know of at least 3 others who had this issue when buying same time as me.
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Hey thanks for sharing that. This is the first link I got searching for this, I have it happen to mine note 9 too. It's such a bummer since I had it for only three days and will have to setup a new one from scratch if they have to replace it.

are you sure the s-pen isnt vibrating when you tap it on that side? remove the s-pen and tap it. i bet it goes away

Wow. No issues like that. I've had three Note 9s and all three have been perfect. I'd definitely return for a replacement. Weak or loose glue could seriously affect the water resistance, since it depends on a water tight seal between the screen and the frame. I'd never recommend using your phone in water anyway, but I at least like the assurance that if my phone takes an accidental dip. There's a good chance it will survive.

MeggaMortY said:
Hey thanks for sharing that. This is the first link I got searching for this, I have it happen to mine note 9 too. It's such a bummer since I had it for only three days and will have to setup a new one from scratch if they have to replace it.
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Yep real shame, my replacement was the same to, it's on way back, getting a refund, not worth risking something going wrong with the screen later down the road, i mean manufacturers do anything to not accept responsibility specially when it comes to screens. First one started on second day, it was great for the first day, replacement was doing it from the moment i took it out of packaging and holding it, it was worse than the first one.
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are you sure the s-pen isnt vibrating when you tap it on that side? remove the s-pen and tap it. i bet it goes away
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It happened to me when turned off with no s-pen in, no screen protector, no case.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Wow. No issues like that. I've had three Note 9s and all three have been perfect. I'd definitely return for a replacement. Weak or loose glue could seriously affect the water resistance, since it depends on a water tight seal between the screen and the frame. I'd never recommend using your phone in water anyway, but I at least like the assurance that if my phone takes an accidental dip. There's a good chance it will survive.
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agreed.

After studying the noise a bit more, it is definitely an issue with the glue. It will not happen all the time I press the screen, but it happens more often when the phone is a bit warm to the touch (e.g. charging the battery). Also, it appears to be along the side where the battery resides - I wouldn't worry about the battery itself, it just makes sense that the glue will get loose where it heats up more often (in my case, I don't stress the phone all that often for the other side where the SoC is to play a role). Anyways I'll be returning it tomorrow once the shops here in Berlin open 'cause now it's christmas break.
One extra thing that might be interesting, the back-side also has some sort of a glass-separation issue, at least it looks like that. Notice the circular smudge around and right of the DUOS label - I tried cleaning it but it comes back, I think the glass is separated at that point too, but just a tiny bit. I've had the phone for four days and haven't dropped/hit/scratched it AFAIK.
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Yep real shame, my replacement was the same to, it's on way back, getting a refund, not worth risking something going wrong with the screen later down the road, i mean manufacturers do anything to not accept responsibility specially when it comes to screens. First one started on second day, it was great for the first day, replacement was doing it from the moment i took it out of packaging and holding it, it was worse than the first one.
It happened to me when turned off with no s-pen in, no screen protector, no case.
agreed.
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I'm hoping to get a better one after a refund, mind sharing if you happen to live in Germany as well? I'm wondering if it's a bad batch or something.

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After studying the noise a bit more, it is definitely an issue with the glue. It will not happen all the time I press the screen, but it happens more often when the phone is a bit warm to the touch (e.g. charging the battery). Also, it appears to be along the side where the battery resides - I wouldn't worry about the battery itself, it just makes sense that the glue will get loose where it heats up more often (in my case, I don't stress the phone all that often for the other side where the SoC is to play a role). Anyways I'll be returning it tomorrow once the shops here in Berlin open 'cause now it's christmas break.
One extra thing that might be interesting, the back-side also has some sort of a glass-separation issue, at least it looks like that. Notice the circular smudge around and right of the DUOS label - I tried cleaning it but it comes back, I think the glass is separated at that point too, but just a tiny bit. I've had the phone for four days and haven't dropped/hit/scratched it AFAIK.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aeUcpLDau2Ypz6Go9
I'm hoping to get a better one after a refund, mind sharing if you happen to live in Germany as well? I'm wondering if it's a bad batch or something.
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i agree with you, seems to be adhesive/glue issue, it did not happen all the time for me either but as you mention it, i noticed it more after recharging (when phone gets warm) so think you nailed the issue on the head to be honest.
I noticed it around the sides (edges) and the centre of screen, second one was even worse much more noticeable and was happening straight away after taking it out of box.
Something i noticed but never mentioned as wasn't sure but second one was the same, maybe it's normal but don't think it is, on the curved corners of the screen it appeared to me the screen looked slightly lifted not flush with the frame but only on corners.
I live in the UK btw. I was thinking a bad batch but seeing Samsung had a good deal on with cashback and discount i imagine they sold allot between the time i arranged to send mine back to getting the replacement which was a week so i imagine they would have been separate batches although i could be wrong.

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i agree with you, seems to be adhesive/glue issue, it did not happen all the time for me either but as you mention it, i noticed it more after recharging (when phone gets warm) so think you nailed the issue on the head to be honest.
I noticed it around the sides (edges) and the centre of screen, second one was even worse much more noticeable and was happening straight away after taking it out of box.
Something i noticed but never mentioned as wasn't sure but second one was the same, maybe it's normal but don't think it is, on the curved corners of the screen it appeared to me the screen looked slightly lifted not flush with the frame but only on corners.
I live in the UK btw. I was thinking a bad batch but seeing Samsung had a good deal on with cashback and discount i imagine they sold allot between the time i arranged to send mine back to getting the replacement which was a week so i imagine they would have been separate batches although i could be wrong.
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Cool, thanks for the info. It's too dark in the winter days so it's hard to say if the glass is a bit off on the corners, but nevertheless, I will write back when I (hopefully) get a replacement one.
One last thing - you did speak directly with Samsung support? Did you buy it from their store or you just didn't want to bother with the store you bought it from?

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Cool, thanks for the info. It's too dark in the winter days so it's hard to say if the glass is a bit off on the corners, but nevertheless, I will write back when I (hopefully) get a replacement one.
One last thing - you did speak directly with Samsung support? Did you buy it from their store or you just didn't want to bother with the store you bought it from?
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I bought it directly from the Samsung online uk store. There was a discount direct from Samsung for students/people who work in certain industries so it could be bought for £699 (£200 off), but also they were offering £150 cashback bringing total down to £549, plus cashback by going via a cashback website meant i would have had it for around £504, also they were doing trade in so people could get even more off up to another £150.00 bring cost down to £399, then people got the samsung game deal thingy, don't play games myself but people can get a Fornite theme by downloading Fornite playing 3 games then you get the free theme, kids going bonkers for the theme, people selling the theme upto £100. So people could have the phone at a bargain price.

So I got a replacement, and just as you said, the display had the same popping sound out of the box. It happens like once a day, but since there is really no substitute for this device right now (stylus + good DAC, besides all the other great features), I'll keep using it and if it gets worse contact Samsung down the line for warranty/replacement. Decided to leave this as information if some other person happens to have the same problem in the future.

MeggaMortY said:
So I got a replacement, and just as you said, the display had the same popping sound out of the box. It happens like once a day, but since there is really no substitute for this device right now (stylus + good DAC, besides all the other great features), I'll keep using it and if it gets worse contact Samsung down the line for warranty/replacement. Decided to leave this as information if some other person happens to have the same problem in the future.
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feel for you, such a shame and disappointing to happen a second time, it's a great phone, i did not want to risk it so sent second one back too. Fingers crossed you won't have any issues. Mine was happening regularly so like you say just keep an eye on it.

I don't have that issue even with the tampered glass on my phone.
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i actually noticed it a few times.. like last night it was doimg it. sort of right above where the keyboard is in portrait mode..
it seems to happen when its really cold outside for me.. its not enough for me to have it replaced thankfuly

I can replicate this when I clean my screen with a microfibre cloth. It happens on pretty much all of the screen. I believe I can also see some light streaks in the screen when this happens. The popping sound happens regardless of the temperature of the phone. Will have to inspect it more to see if I can spot any other issues with the screen. I got mine in the UK just over a week ago. Apart from that I think the phone has been great so far. Not sure whether to replace it.

glad i sent mine back now to be honest, personally i would send back, as you say everything else is great apart from the screen popping sound. The worry for me is the screen might cause issues further down the road, screens are the biggest issue with mobile phones and manufacturers are quick to blame user and deny warranty.

elliwigy said:
i actually noticed it a few times.. like last night it was doimg it. sort of right above where the keyboard is in portrait mode..
it seems to happen when its really cold outside for me.. its not enough for me to have it replaced thankfuly
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My Unlocked US Note 9 does it too. Mine mainly does it on the right side near the middle. It's not enough for me to warrant sending it back; it still works fine and I don't see any screen issues when pressing on the screen. Also I bought mine used so I'm guessing the screen was replaced. If it gets worse, I guess I'll fix it then.

P4 screen separation

So, I bought my Pixel brand new in the beginning of December. About a week ago while installing my new Speck Presidio Grip case (phenomenal case btw) I noticed the top & bottom seams of the screen are starting to show a little bit of a gap. More so the bottom edge, it's not like fully separated but it's definitely noticable. I can run my fingernail along the bottom seam and pull up on the screen to give you an idea of what kind of gap I'm talking about. It definitely was not like this when I took it out of the box 2 months ago and this is a bit worrisome as I'm almost positive I no longer have water resistance. I can't even begin to understand how this is happening, the phone has been in a case since the second I unboxed it along with a glass screen protector. Never been dropped, never been in water and has never had any sort of chemicals spilled on it that would eat the screen adhesive. This has to be a defect to some degree. Anyone else out there experiencing this? And more importantly, do you guys think I can RMA my phone die to this? Even though I don't ever purposely get my phone wet, losing my water resistance is really bothering me along with my OCD seeing that separation. Also dust and dirt is going to keep accumulating in the gap further expanding it as time goes on. I love this phone but I can't force myself to accept that my two month old thousand dollar phone's screen is ejecting itself off the frame.

1dopewrx05 said:
.....I love this phone but I can't force myself to accept that my two month old thousand dollar phone's screen is ejecting itself off the frame.
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If you cannot force yourself to accept this, then call Google and plead your case. You will never know until you ask. In fact, if refused you should keep calling back a few times in hopes of getting an affirmative response. Don't chat with a bot, call and talk with a real person. I use the same case and have had it off/on many times for cleaning. It is very tight but I'm not seeing any damage. Good luck.

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If you cannot force yourself to accept this, then call Google and plead your case. You will never know until you ask. In fact, if refused you should keep calling back a few times in hopes of getting an affirmative response. Don't chat with a bot, call and talk with a real person. I use the same case and have had it off/on many times for cleaning. It is very tight but I'm not seeing any damage. Good luck.
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Thanks for the advice. I think I'm gonna give it a shot, like you said I have nothing to lose. I have the Google One storage service that gives me 100GB of cloud storage and it comes with a few other perks like what's supposed to be an elevated, better product support experience so I think I will try with that first and see what kind of response they give.

Screen lifting on Rog 2

Greeting all! I've had my Asus Rog 2 for a little over a month I'd say. I have the proper Republic of Gamers version. I've noticed on the left side, where the attachment port is. An amount of flex in the screen along the seal. It's probably only a millimetre or so. But it flexes up and down when pressed, seeable from a side on view. The other side where the volume and power buttons are does not that this flex. There is also a light difference to sound when tapping that side of the phone while typing. Which I can only put down to the slight screen compressing on the left. I'm not sure how I can to notice it. Some people have said it might be an intentional aspect of the phone to give a small amount of flex/shock absorption but I can't find anything online mentioning it. I'm more leaning towards it being a fault in my phone. It's not once been dropped always been in a case. So yeah. Anyone able to shed light on this?

Oxley1428 said:
Greeting all! I've had my Asus Rog 2 for a little over a month I'd say. I have the proper Republic of Gamers version. I've noticed on the left side, where the attachment port is. An amount of flex in the screen along the seal. It's probably only a millimetre or so. But it flexes up and down when pressed, seeable from a side on view. The other side where the volume and power buttons are does not that this flex. There is also a light difference to sound when tapping that side of the phone while typing. Which I can only put down to the slight screen compressing on the left. I'm not sure how I can to notice it. Some people have said it might be an intentional aspect of the phone to give a small amount of flex/shock absorption but I can't find anything online mentioning it. I'm more leaning towards it being a fault in my phone. It's not once been dropped always been in a case. So yeah. Anyone able to shed light on this?
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Finally. Someone with class and crazy sharp senses. I myself have severe OCD. I used to be very verbal about this kind of stuff on the AC forums xD. But on XDA i toned myself down.
First of all. Asus has crap for Quality Control. I had 2 ROGPHONE 2s with different power button height. And in between the lcd and bezel i could see glue. But okay nevermind.
As for the screen lifting near the accessory port, i do not seem to have it. Did you happen to sit on it? Or put the phone in the back pocket? Remembering that this is a tall phone.

HermesHidayat said:
Finally. Someone with class and crazy sharp senses. I myself have severe OCD. I used to be very verbal about this kind of stuff on the AC forums xD. But on XDA i toned myself down.
First of all. Asus has crap for Quality Control. I had 2 ROGPHONE 2s with different power button height. And in between the lcd and bezel i could see glue. But okay nevermind.
As for the screen lifting near the accessory port, i do not seem to have it. Did you happen to sit on it? Or put the phone in the back pocket? Remembering that this is a tall phone.
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Nope! I don't even take the phone to work with me. I swap to my previous phone.
I'm pretty sure it's a fault. It hasn't caused any issues apart from some annoyance to my OCD. As long as it doesn't worsen it's not something I can't live with.

Oxley1428 said:
Nope! I don't even take the phone to work with me. I swap to my previous phone.
I'm pretty sure it's a fault. It hasn't caused any issues apart from some annoyance to my OCD. As long as it doesn't worsen it's not something I can't live with.
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It will worsen. You should get it replaced. Im sure it will eventually become wider from the flexing. Btw do you use the accessory port often? And do you have a tempered glass applied?

HermesHidayat said:
It will worsen. You should get it replaced. Im sure it will eventually become wider from the flexing. Btw do you use the accessory port often? And do you have a tempered glass applied?
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I wouldn't have a clue how. I'm in Australia and I purchased the phone via eBay.
I've used the accessory port once, just to check it out. Used the fan for maybe 15 minutes. Other than that I've never removed the piece of rubber there.
And yes, I have a tempered glass protector applied.

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I wouldn't have a clue how. I'm in Australia and I purchased the phone via eBay.
I've used the accessory port once, just to check it out. Used the fan for maybe 15 minutes. Other than that I've never removed the piece of rubber there.
And yes, I have a tempered glass protector applied.
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Are you sure its the screen and not tempered glass?

HermesHidayat said:
Are you sure its the screen and not tempered glass?
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Yeah, it's 100% the screen. You can see the black edge of the screen move up and down from the dark drownish side of the phone. I'll just have to keep an eye on it I suppose. Bit annoying though. Pay almost $1,700 for one of the best phones on the market thinking you're going to get something issue free. Ha.

Oxley1428 said:
Yeah, it's 100% the screen. You can see the black edge of the screen move up and down from the dark drownish side of the phone. I'll just have to keep an eye on it I suppose. Bit annoying though. Pay almost $1,700 for one of the best phones on the market thinking you're going to get something issue free. Ha.
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In Indonesia. Samsung has the best QC. I only had 1 issue with Samsung. Which was dust under the S7 Edge screen. But other than that they're very good. But Asus Indonesia is a joke. Its like we get a refurbished phone. I bought 2 rogphone 2s and each had their own defect. First had glue in between the screen and bezel, and my current unit has different volume/power button height.

HermesHidayat said:
In Indonesia. Samsung has the best QC. I only had 1 issue with Samsung. Which was dust under the S7 Edge screen. But other than that they're very good. But Asus Indonesia is a joke. Its like we get a refurbished phone. I bought 2 rogphone 2s and each had their own defect. First had glue in between the screen and bezel, and my current unit has different volume/power button height.
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Which is why I didn't want to buy the Tencent version. Plus it wouldn't work here correctly without getting into the firmware. I just figured I'd spend the money. Get the good one that'll have no issues. I asked the seller if they had warranty which the answer was no. They referred me to a few companies that do insurance on phones.
I've never bought a real expensive phone before, and my previous phone was 4 or 5 years old. It was an S5.
So it is annoying. But other than that I don't have any complaints about it.

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Which is why I didn't want to buy the Tencent version. Plus it wouldn't work here correctly without getting into the firmware. I just figured I'd spend the money. Get the good one that'll have no issues. I asked the seller if they had warranty which the answer was no. They referred me to a few companies that do insurance on phones.
I've never bought a real expensive phone before, and my previous phone was 4 or 5 years old. It was an S5.
So it is annoying. But other than that I don't have any complaints about it.
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Or you could use it until it shows signs of damage defect. Or bring it to an authorized repair shop. Im guessing lack of glue.

HermesHidayat said:
Or you could use it until it shows signs of damage defect. Or bring it to an authorized repair shop. Im guessing lack of glue.
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Lack of glue probably is the issue. I might see if there are any places around that can do it. Doubtful there would be around me. Best luck is probably Sydney. Which is a few hours away.

Oxley1428 said:
Lack of glue probably is the issue. I might see if there are any places around that can do it. Doubtful there would be around me. Best luck is probably Sydney. Which is a few hours away.
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If you like DIY stuff. Try using LOCO glue. They helped me seal my Note 8 when it had cracks.

HermesHidayat said:
Finally. Someone with class and crazy sharp senses. I myself have severe OCD. I used to be very verbal about this kind of stuff on the AC forums xD. But on XDA i toned myself down.
First of all. Asus has crap for Quality Control. I had 2 ROGPHONE 2s with different power button height. And in between the lcd and bezel i could see glue. But okay nevermind.
As for the screen lifting near the accessory port, i do not seem to have it. Did you happen to sit on it? Or put the phone in the back pocket? Remembering that this is a tall phone.
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You seriously dont know how comfortable your comment has made me after reading it. I have always had this habit of checking my belongings (from my phone to my own body and muscles) to make absolutely sure there isnt a single even slighgest problem with it and guess what, there always is something to notice for me!
One of the reasons why I had never opted for an oled phone knowing I will notice the burn-ins one day when there isnt any other person who notices them.
Now I finally decided to go for this phone with the assumption that asus knows how to make gaming stuff, but now I can see several issues already, from the obvious red tint to the screen having lots of bandings and horizontal lines on lower brightness on gray color.
Now I can also feel the volume buttons not needing the same pressure and of of them being softer and also the rgb light on the back being poorly so when the light turns on there are some dots around it that also light up(i know that its only a white paper behind the back glass so if there are any print issues they will also light up)
Althought I dont have any serious issues(yet), im definitely not buying another phone from asus or any other not that famous brands for that matter. My last device was a sony x compact which I had for 3 years from when it came out and I still regret selling it, it was so damn perfect.
Btw, thanks for lettin me know that there is a disorder named OCD, I dont know why I hadnt searched about it already.

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You seriously dont know how comfortable your comment has made me after reading it. I have always had this habit of checking my belongings (from my phone to my own body and muscles) to make absolutely sure there isnt a single even slighgest problem with it and guess what, there always is something to notice for me!
One of the reasons why I had never opted for an oled phone knowing I will notice the burn-ins one day when there isnt any other person who notices them.
Now I finally decided to go for this phone with the assumption that asus knows how to make gaming stuff, but now I can see several issues already, from the obvious red tint to the screen having lots of bandings and horizontal lines on lower brightness on gray color.
Now I can also feel the volume buttons not needing the same pressure and of of them being softer and also the rgb light on the back being poorly so when the light turns on there are some dots around it that also light up(i know that its only a white paper behind the back glass so if there are any print issues they will also light up)
Althought I dont have any serious issues(yet), im definitely not buying another phone from asus or any other not that famous brands for that matter. My last device was a sony x compact which I had for 3 years from when it came out and I still regret selling it, it was so damn perfect.
Btw, thanks for lettin me know that there is a disorder named OCD, I dont know why I hadnt searched about it already.
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Hi, well thats quite a positive feedback. I had quite a backlash at AC forums. I've had people say that I'm making AC look like a Mental Issue Forum and some user even boasted how happy his credit card is if he buys a new phone when the old 1 is damaged.(credit card lol) Btw, i wouldn't say its a disorder. Different people have different standards. For me the Mercedes Benz S Klasse might be perfect, but for you it might not be.
And my OCD is definitely worse than yours. My phone can only be touched by me, and me myself dont touch the physical buttons(I'm afraid that it will be damaged).
And never feel alone about something. There will always be somebody out there having the same issue but not posting on the forums xD.

HermesHidayat said:
If you like DIY stuff. Try using LOCO glue. They helped me seal my Note 8 when it had cracks.
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Not a fan of DIY.
So I stopped by a phone repair should this Arvo. The guy said to him it looks as though the battery is swelling. He said thats the side the battery is on so that is the most likely reason for it. He asked if the battery life was alright still.
Hard for me to really notice. I only use the phone on weekends and in the afternoons while home. I generally only charge it every second day, and I unplug the charger once it's at 100%. He said it isn't serious at the moment but if I notice battery charge fading fast, or if it swells a lot more to bring it back and he'll be able to put a new one in.
Just my ****ing luck to get shoddy battery, if that's the issue.

Oxley1428 said:
Not a fan of DIY.
So I stopped by a phone repair should this Arvo. The guy said to him it looks as though the battery is swelling. He said thats the side the battery is on so that is the most likely reason for it. He asked if the battery life was alright still.
Hard for me to really notice. I only use the phone on weekends and in the afternoons while home. I generally only charge it every second day, and I unplug the charger once it's at 100%. He said it isn't serious at the moment but if I notice battery charge fading fast, or if it swells a lot more to bring it back and he'll be able to put a new one in.
Just my ****ing luck to get shoddy battery, if that's the issue.
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Hahahaha battery swell. I wonder what battery Asus uses... Btw, did he open the phone to confirm?

HermesHidayat said:
Hahahaha battery swell. I wonder what battery Asus uses... Btw, did he open the phone to confirm?
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No they didn't. But it's their job so I'd say they can make a pretty fair guess.
I might go back there Monday, as I need my phone this weekend. On Monday I'll go back and tell them to do what needs to be done to fix it.

The battery is on the opposit side from the vent that would be on the left side of the vent, didnt you say that the problem was on the left side of your screen meaning its on the right side of the back??!

Kianush said:
The battery is on the opposit side from the vent that would be on the left side of the vent, didnt you say that the problem was on the left side of your screen meaning its on the right side of the back??!
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Is it? I haven't even checked that. I'll look that up. But yes, it is opposite to the vent.
You're right it is. Interesting. Awesome. Now I'm back to annoyed and confused. Haha.

Oxley1428 said:
Is it? I haven't even checked that. I'll look that up. But yes, it is opposite to the vent.
You're right it is. Interesting. Awesome. Now I'm back to annoyed and confused. Haha.
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Yeah trust me the customer services' first guess is battery swell which basicly doesnt happen soon unless you are always charging your phone while playing and overnight and draining it to the last percentage. But is can happen as a result of physical impact or damage, and when it happens you will most probably notice the shortened battery life so I would say it's not a battery problem unless of course proven otherwise.